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2017-09-08 02:48:52 PM  
There is a very good one. He is seeking a multi-million dollar contract and nobody thinks he's worth it ON the field. If he were seeking a salary commensurate with his talent, and a team thought they could win more games with him, he'd be employed.

He would be employed as a third-string quarterback now if he were willing to work for third-string wages (which essentially means the NFL base salary, which is more than he's making sitting at home).
 
2017-09-08 02:52:17 PM  

tomasso: There is a very good one. He is seeking a multi-million dollar contract and nobody thinks he's worth it ON the field. If he were seeking a salary commensurate with his talent, and a team thought they could win more games with him, he'd be employed.

He would be employed as a third-string quarterback now if he were willing to work for third-string wages (which essentially means the NFL base salary, which is more than he's making sitting at home).


Here.
 
2017-09-08 02:52:51 PM  
There's no credible reason why I should give a flying fark whether Kaepernick is on a week 1 through week 17 NFL roster.
 
2017-09-08 02:53:14 PM  

tomasso: There is a very good one. He is seeking a multi-million dollar contract and nobody thinks he's worth it ON the field. If he were seeking a salary commensurate with his talent, and a team thought they could win more games with him, he'd be employed.

He would be employed as a third-string quarterback now if he were willing to work for third-string wages (which essentially means the NFL base salary, which is more than he's making sitting at home).


Ummm, that's clearly not the case.  He's better than (spitballing here) 1/3 of the starting QBs in the league - at least 10 of them - and he's probably better than any backup QB.

And this is coming from someone who doesn't really like Kaepernick as a QB.  He was always overrated (had Harbaugh stuck with Alex Smith the 49ers probably win that Super Bowl) but he did help get his team not only to one Super Bowl but to another NFCCG.  Not many QBs have the accomplishments that he does.  The only reason he's not on a roster is the butthurt surrounding his protests.
 
2017-09-08 02:54:16 PM  
If Alex Smith can learn to love the bomb, anything can happen.
 
2017-09-08 02:54:55 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: The only reason he's not on a roster is the butthurt surrounding his protests.


^ And this is pretty obvious at this point.
 
2017-09-08 02:56:04 PM  

tomasso: There is a very good one. He is seeking a multi-million dollar contract and nobody thinks he's worth it ON the field. If he were seeking a salary commensurate with his talent, and a team thought they could win more games with him, he'd be employed.

He would be employed as a third-string quarterback now if he were willing to work for third-string wages (which essentially means the NFL base salary, which is more than he's making sitting at home).


That's a very naive point of view.
 
2017-09-08 02:56:44 PM  
Yes there is a credible reason. No one wants him on their team. Their reasons are irrelevant.
 
2017-09-08 03:00:10 PM  

abhorrent1: Yes there is a credible reason. No one wants him on their team. Their reasons are irrelevant.


Not wanting to hire someone because of race or political opinions.... I can see those being pretty relevant reasons in front of a judge.

Obviously the rules don't apply to NFL teams, but transport it to some other industry and see what happens.
 
2017-09-08 03:06:04 PM  
The backlash against Mr. Kaepernick and his principled, silent protests says far more about the NFL owners and a sizeable portion of the fans than it does about him.

Meanwhile, the man seems to be occupying his time by helping others less fortunate than himself.
 
2017-09-08 03:06:58 PM  

Gubbo: abhorrent1: Yes there is a credible reason. No one wants him on their team. Their reasons are irrelevant.

Not wanting to hire someone because of race or political opinions.... I can see those being pretty relevant reasons in front of a judge.

Obviously the rules don't apply to NFL teams, but transport it to some other industry and see what happens.


Race?  Oh yeah, I forgot. The NFL hates black people. That's why they make up 70+ percent of the league.
 
2017-09-08 03:10:16 PM  

abhorrent1: Gubbo: abhorrent1: Yes there is a credible reason. No one wants him on their team. Their reasons are irrelevant.

Not wanting to hire someone because of race or political opinions.... I can see those being pretty relevant reasons in front of a judge.

Obviously the rules don't apply to NFL teams, but transport it to some other industry and see what happens.

Race?  Oh yeah, I forgot. The NFL hates black people. That's why they make up 70+ percent of the league.


Hence why I used that 'or' word. By the way, given they make up so much of the manual labor, how many black head coaches are there? Black owners?
 
2017-09-08 03:19:39 PM  

abhorrent1: Gubbo: abhorrent1: Yes there is a credible reason. No one wants him on their team. Their reasons are irrelevant.

Not wanting to hire someone because of race or political opinions.... I can see those being pretty relevant reasons in front of a judge.

Obviously the rules don't apply to NFL teams, but transport it to some other industry and see what happens.

Race?  Oh yeah, I forgot. The NFL hates black people. That's why they make up 70+ percent of the league.


And a rather small fraction of quarterbacks. Because black people are too stupid to handle the position supposedly.
 
2017-09-08 03:21:00 PM  

tomasso: There is a very good one. He is seeking a multi-million dollar contract and nobody thinks he's worth it ON the field. If he were seeking a salary commensurate with his talent, and a team thought they could win more games with him, he'd be employed.

He would be employed as a third-string quarterback now if he were willing to work for third-string wages (which essentially means the NFL base salary, which is more than he's making sitting at home).


That's a conjecture so big you can't fit it inside the Boeing Everett Factory.
 
2017-09-08 03:27:34 PM  
I think of football as entertainment. I don't want to hear the politics of the band or actors I'm watching and I don't want politics from anyone from the NFL. That is exactly why the ratings of NFL games went down last year.
 
2017-09-08 03:37:23 PM  

RSprinkle: I think of football as entertainment. I don't want to hear the politics of the band or actors I'm watching and I don't want politics from anyone from the NFL. That is exactly why the ratings of NFL games went down last year.


You don't want to hear their politics, or you don't want to hear their politics because they aren't your politics?
 
2017-09-08 03:48:48 PM  

RSprinkle: I think of football as entertainment. I don't want to hear the politics of the band or actors I'm watching and I don't want politics from anyone from the NFL. That is exactly why the ratings of NFL games went down last year.


You heard him kneel?
 
2017-09-08 03:52:38 PM  

RSprinkle: I think of football as entertainment. I don't want to hear the politics of the band or actors I'm watching and I don't want politics from anyone from the NFL. That is exactly why the ratings of NFL games went down last year.


I don't want to hear players be all 'Jesus-y', but it doesn't prevent me from watching and enjoying the game.
 
2017-09-08 03:56:25 PM  

abhorrent1: Gubbo: abhorrent1: Yes there is a credible reason. No one wants him on their team. Their reasons are irrelevant.

Not wanting to hire someone because of race or political opinions.... I can see those being pretty relevant reasons in front of a judge.

Obviously the rules don't apply to NFL teams, but transport it to some other industry and see what happens.

Race?  Oh yeah, I forgot. The NFL hates black people. That's why they make up 70+ percent of the league.


it's very definitely possible to hate a group of people and still employ them.
 
2017-09-08 03:57:36 PM  

RSprinkle: I think of football as entertainment. I don't want to hear the politics of the band or actors I'm watching and I don't want politics from anyone from the NFL. That is exactly why the ratings of NFL games went down last year.


ME NO WANTS THINK.
ME WANTS WATCH MENS HURT MENS.

/So sorry that the real world had the nerve to find its way into your televised games bubble.
 
2017-09-08 03:58:25 PM  
He had a job, opted out of that job, and people are mad that he's unemployed?

Sometimes your attitude can overshadow your aptitude.
 
2017-09-08 03:58:53 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: RSprinkle: I think of football as entertainment. I don't want to hear the politics of the band or actors I'm watching and I don't want politics from anyone from the NFL. That is exactly why the ratings of NFL games went down last year.

You heard him kneel?


he has knees made of white dwarf stars that he drops to the turf with a mighty THUD the likes of which seismographs pick up for MILES around the stadium. his kneeling is endangering lives, goddammit, this isn't a joke!
 
2017-09-08 03:59:12 PM  
He would be on the Ravens if his girlfriend wasn't a complete idiot and compared NFL owners to slave owners.

He would maybe be on the Dolphins if he hadn't praised Castro (in Miami, that is pretty frowned upon).
 
2017-09-08 03:59:14 PM  

bainsguy: abhorrent1: Gubbo: abhorrent1: Yes there is a credible reason. No one wants him on their team. Their reasons are irrelevant.

Not wanting to hire someone because of race or political opinions.... I can see those being pretty relevant reasons in front of a judge.

Obviously the rules don't apply to NFL teams, but transport it to some other industry and see what happens.

Race?  Oh yeah, I forgot. The NFL hates black people. That's why they make up 70+ percent of the league.

it's very definitely possible to hate a group of people and still employ them.


Especially if you're hiring them for the labor side of things, not management.
 
2017-09-08 03:59:49 PM  
Whew. Today's Kap thread is finally here.
 
2017-09-08 04:00:21 PM  
Because his touchdown dance is stupid.
 
2017-09-08 04:03:51 PM  

Gubbo: abhorrent1: Yes there is a credible reason. No one wants him on their team. Their reasons are irrelevant.

Not wanting to hire someone because of race or political opinions.... I can see those being pretty relevant reasons in front of a judge.

Obviously the rules don't apply to NFL teams, but transport it to some other industry and see what happens.


Race yes, political opinions no.

There is no court case here for Kap.
 
2017-09-08 04:06:27 PM  

HawgWild: RSprinkle: I think of football as entertainment. I don't want to hear the politics of the band or actors I'm watching and I don't want politics from anyone from the NFL. That is exactly why the ratings of NFL games went down last year.

You don't want to hear their politics, or you don't want to hear their politics because they aren't your politics?


Personally, I don't want to hear or see ANY political bullshiat when watching sports.  If I want to watch political bullshiat, there are plenty of channels full of it 24/7.
 
2017-09-08 04:07:41 PM  

RSprinkle: I think of football as entertainment. I don't want to hear the politics of the band or actors I'm watching and I don't want politics from anyone from the NFL. That is exactly why the ratings of NFL games went down last year.


lol the NFL, which took money from the DoD to promote military jingoism for years, isn't political. That's rich.

There is no proof for your claim about ratings, either.
 
2017-09-08 04:12:43 PM  
Let's all recall that before any of this started, he had been benched in favor of Blaine Gabbert and was probably 50/50 for even making the team.
 
2017-09-08 04:12:59 PM  
There is a simple one...no one wants to sign him.
 
2017-09-08 04:14:42 PM  

The Lone Biker of the Apocalypse: There is a simple one...no one wants to sign him.


He doesn't have a job because nobody wants to sign him because nobody wants to sign him so he doesn't have a job.

Pretty cyclic reasoning. You want to try dig a little deeper, or are you happy with your answer?
 
2017-09-08 04:15:01 PM  
It's a good thing that the NFL blacklisted CK for being a mediocre quarterback and not for being opposed to the murders of black people by (mostly) white cops, because otherwise the people calling him "unskilled" would be looking really stupid right now.
 
2017-09-08 04:15:21 PM  
He isn't worth the hassle.
 
2017-09-08 04:16:33 PM  

Gubbo: abhorrent1: Yes there is a credible reason. No one wants him on their team. Their reasons are irrelevant.

Not wanting to hire someone because of race or political opinions.... I can see those being pretty relevant reasons in front of a judge.

Obviously the rules don't apply to NFL teams, but transport it to some other industry and see what happens.


Having certain political opinions is not a protected class (like, for example, race is).  It is perfectly legal to say "I will not hire Democrats", for instance.

/however, a good lawyer might make the argument that being a Democrat aligns with certain races to a high degree
 
2017-09-08 04:16:37 PM  

tomasso: There is a very good one. He is seeking a multi-million dollar contract and nobody thinks he's worth it ON the field. If he were seeking a salary commensurate with his talent, and a team thought they could win more games with him, he'd be employed.

He would be employed as a third-string quarterback now if he were willing to work for third-string wages (which essentially means the NFL base salary, which is more than he's making sitting at home).


That's probably it. Most teams would hire him as a back-up but he is asking for starter money. Add in the politics and that most front-offices view him as a locker-room cancer, he is asking for way too much money.
 
2017-09-08 04:17:07 PM  

RankStranger: He isn't worth the hassle.


Come to think of it I fully support the New England Patriots providing Colin a job.
 
2017-09-08 04:18:44 PM  
but he is asking for starter money

No he's not. If this was as simple as him demanding too much money, a team would say "here's your league minimum contract, come sign it or shut up forever" and this would be over.
 
2017-09-08 04:18:47 PM  

Gubbo: abhorrent1: Yes there is a credible reason. No one wants him on their team. Their reasons are irrelevant.

Not wanting to hire someone because of race or political opinions.... I can see those being pretty relevant reasons in front of a judge.

Obviously the rules don't apply to NFL teams, but transport it to some other industry and see what happens.


No business has to explain why they did not hire someone, nor do they have to explain why they fired someone. Unless it is so blatantly obvious as to be the only reason why they could be unemployed (and, despite the social justice types thinking that, it's not the case here), you give them the benefit of the doubt per the 1st amendment and at-will employment laws.
 
2017-09-08 04:20:35 PM  

Gubbo: The Lone Biker of the Apocalypse: There is a simple one...no one wants to sign him.

He doesn't have a job because nobody wants to sign him because nobody wants to sign him so he doesn't have a job.

Pretty cyclic reasoning. You want to try dig a little deeper, or are you happy with your answer?


Wrong. He doesn't have a job because he quit his job (opted out).
 
2017-09-08 04:22:38 PM  

Gubbo: abhorrent1: Gubbo: abhorrent1: Yes there is a credible reason. No one wants him on their team. Their reasons are irrelevant.

Not wanting to hire someone because of race or political opinions.... I can see those being pretty relevant reasons in front of a judge.

Obviously the rules don't apply to NFL teams, but transport it to some other industry and see what happens.

Race?  Oh yeah, I forgot. The NFL hates black people. That's why they make up 70+ percent of the league.

Hence why I used that 'or' word. By the way, given they make up so much of the manual labor, how many black head coaches are there? Black owners?


Oh no the poor Manual labor. How many coaches make more than 10 Million a year? Zero, that's how many. How many of these poor black manual laborers make more than that? A lot. Having a hard time mustering sympathy for guys that are making 15-16 million this year.

Ask them to cut their pay from 16M to 6M and coach instead. See what they say. If they can talk while laughing so hard.

With a few exceptions, coaches careers aren't much longer than the average NFL player.
There's Tomlin, Jackson, Lynn, Caldwell, Bowels....How many black head coaches must there be to meet your approval? All of them will, like every other NFL coach, be fired. Some may go on to coach again, some wont.

As for owners, you got me there. I don't know the owner situation of all teams. I know some have been owned by the same families for like 100 years. It's not like NFL teams regularly come up for sale.
 
2017-09-08 04:22:45 PM  

machoprogrammer: He would be on the Ravens if his girlfriend wasn't a complete idiot and compared NFL owners to slave owners.

He would maybe be on the Dolphins if he hadn't praised Castro (in Miami, that is pretty frowned upon).


This.

The situation is beyond the kneeling during the anthem. He's not employed by the NFL because he acts like he doesn't want to be employed by the NFL.
 
2017-09-08 04:23:01 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Whew. Today's Kap thread is finally here.


No kidding
 
2017-09-08 04:23:20 PM  
They don't want him because of his views.
Now, a rape allegation or a club shooting involvement? Meh! Happens to everyone.
Press hard there are three copies. Welcome to the club, CK!
 
2017-09-08 04:23:21 PM  

IlGreven: No business has to explain why they did not hire someone, nor do they have to explain why they fired someone. Unless it is so blatantly obvious as to be the only reason why they could be unemployed (and, despite the social justice types thinking that, it's not the case here), you give them the benefit of the doubt per the 1st amendment and at-will employment laws.


Not every state has 'at-will' employment laws you know. Meh, nevermind.
 
2017-09-08 04:23:26 PM  

RSprinkle: I think of football as entertainment. I don't want to hear the politics of the band or actors I'm watching and I don't want politics from anyone from the NFL. That is exactly why the ratings of NFL games went down last year.


"I want to enjoy the fruits of their labor, but I don't want to hear anything about them as people. The idea that I should have to hear their opinions is intolerable to me. Surely, this is not unreasonable."
 
2017-09-08 04:24:23 PM  

abhorrent1: How many black head coaches must there be to meet your approval?


70% of the workforce. Seems fair that they be 70% of the management positions?
 
2017-09-08 04:24:29 PM  

Gubbo: The Lone Biker of the Apocalypse: There is a simple one...no one wants to sign him.

He doesn't have a job because nobody wants to sign him because nobody wants to sign him so he doesn't have a job.

Pretty cyclic reasoning. You want to try dig a little deeper, or are you happy with your answer?


Not especially given that this issue has been beaten to death.
 
2017-09-08 04:27:32 PM  

This text is now purple: Let's all recall that before any of this started, he had been benched in favor of Blaine Gabbert and was probably 50/50 for even making the team.


And let's recall Gabbert went 4-9 after that.
 
2017-09-08 04:27:51 PM  

IAmRight: RSprinkle: I think of football as entertainment. I don't want to hear the politics of the band or actors I'm watching and I don't want politics from anyone from the NFL. That is exactly why the ratings of NFL games went down last year.

"I want to enjoy the fruits of their labor, but I don't want to hear anything about them as people. The idea that I should have to hear their opinions is intolerable to me. Surely, this is not unreasonable."


They're getting paid. Very, very well.

Shut up and play.
 
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