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(NBC News)   Today in Bizzaro World News: Trump had a "very good meeting with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer" that end up with a Hurricane Harvey disaster relief bill that also raised the debt ceiling   ( nbcnews.com) divider line
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2017-09-06 10:12:42 PM  
we needed to come together to not create a picture of divisiveness

GFY, Yertle. You were happy to be divisive for eight farking years. Reap what you sow, motherfarker.
 
2017-09-06 10:34:21 PM  
Good. Now everyone hates him.
 
2017-09-06 10:40:49 PM  
Huh. I'll be damned.
 
2017-09-06 10:41:28 PM  
"We are literally funding this government on 90-day notes. That is not the way to fund the largest, most relevant entity in the world," said Sen. Dan Sullivan, R-Alaska.

Great.. then introduce a bill to eliminate the farking debt ceiling nonsense altogether.
 
2017-09-06 11:16:27 PM  
It's not a done deal even though the three of them agreed.  The only certainty from the meeting is that Entitled Barbie has no damn business being there.
 
2017-09-06 11:26:46 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: It's not a done deal even though the three of them agreed.  The only certainty from the meeting is that Entitled Barbie has no damn business being there.


Not a done deal, perhaps, but if nothing else, the corner Two Scoops painted himself and the GOP into just got a hell of a lot smaller.

They refuse to pass the bill, the Dems have everything they need to point and say, "See this shiat?  Do you want this shiat?  No?  OK, then let's stop this shiat."

They pass, they piss off their base.  Who are likely already pissed off or heading there sharpish, especially after the neo-Nazis at Breitbart and Rush get going.

Basically, what just happened was the so-called "useless Dems" played the Republicans hard, and did so with unwitting help from their own man in the White House.
 
2017-09-06 11:28:23 PM  
That guy is not predictable.

I've claimed you can predict him if you think about his ego and his money but I can't apply it here.
 
2017-09-07 12:04:50 AM  

edmo: That guy is not predictable.

I've claimed you can predict him if you think about his ego and his money but I can't apply it here.


Yes you can. He wants a win, and he knows DACA has broad bipartisan support. Getting these two issues out of the way clears more room for DACA, and maybe even tax reform and another ACA repeal attempt.
 
2017-09-07 12:08:16 AM  
In an unexpected turn of events, Ivanka Trump, the president's daughter and adviser, came into the room to say hello toward the end of the meeting, which derailed the conversation and left the Republicans visibly annoyed, a Democratic aide briefed on the meeting said.

Why would this be unexpected? She sat in Putin's chair. She took Daddy's place at the G-7.  I pretty much expect her to show up at inappropriate times in inappropriate situations.
 
2017-09-07 12:24:26 AM  
I'm trying to think of a better present for the GOP than their loose cannon flying back and forth across the deck of the USS Whirlwind Reaper. I can't. It's glorious.
 
2017-09-07 12:26:33 AM  
Trump got his win.  that's all that mattered to him.  the fact that he f*cked over the GOP doesn't even relate to Trump's universe.

go ahead GOP.  kill this deal.  see what happens next.
 
2017-09-07 12:32:38 AM  
Mass Hysteria
Youtube JmzuRXLzqKk
 
2017-09-07 12:35:32 AM  
Hmm... Give this Trump guy another 6 months and he may surprise us.
Arnold pissed off the GOP in CA too...
Remember, D2S a loose cannon, right?
Dems may grab him by the parts sometimes...

/ not likely, but we can hope
 
2017-09-07 12:36:43 AM  

lindalouwho: Huh. I'll be damned.


Trump will forget about it in the morning.
 
2017-09-07 12:37:47 AM  

Soup4Bonnie: It's not a done deal even though the three of them agreed.  The only certainty from the meeting is that Entitled Barbie has no damn business being there.


Who else is willing to stick their hand up Trump's Ass to manipulate his lips while they do their ventriloquist impression?
 
2017-09-07 12:43:15 AM  
So, in other words, it doesn't matter to Trump who He pisses off. As long as he gets a 'good jorb' from someone, it's all well and good.

Fox News and its AM radio mouthpieces to rationalize and report this deal is the best thing since sliced bread, in 3...2...1..
 
2017-09-07 12:43:51 AM  
Watch him go back on it within a farking week, and then pretend that the deal was never made.
 
2017-09-07 12:47:32 AM  
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Seems you forgot something "Leopards Eating Faces Party." When everyone else's faces are eaten, I then come to eat your face!
 
2017-09-07 12:48:27 AM  
Nothing good has ever come from someone named Schumer.
 
2017-09-07 12:50:15 AM  
Why is this surprising?  He is by far the most moderate to liberal Republican President in modern history.  Yet, somehow he is painted as some far right nut-job.  His agenda is further to the left than Bill Clinton's was.  Why shouldn't he go to the Democrats?  The Republicans have proved that they cannot do anything in Congress twice already.
 
2017-09-07 12:50:18 AM  
pbs.twimg.com
 
2017-09-07 12:51:54 AM  
I preferred the CNN headline, which directly references Senator Mitch McConnell: "Republican leaders in the room 'shell-shocked' following Trump deal with Democrats"
 
2017-09-07 12:52:12 AM  
he is  an orange bottle rocket that went off in a room filled with fragile, expensive things, jars with flamable substances, and explosives.
 
2017-09-07 12:55:04 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2017-09-07 12:55:46 AM  

Thong_of_Zardoz: Nothing good has ever come from someone named Schumer.


Inside Amy Schumer - Milk Milk Lemonade
Youtube HeiSx5MNDvg


/Agreed
 
2017-09-07 12:56:04 AM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: "We are literally funding this government on 90-day notes. That is not the way to fund the largest, most relevant entity in the world," said Sen. Dan Sullivan, R-Alaska.

Great.. then introduce a bill to eliminate the farking debt ceiling nonsense altogether.


Spoken like a Democrat who doesn't believes that government debt matters.
 
2017-09-07 12:58:56 AM  
And in a few months the Dems get to drag the GOP's asses over the coals again over the debt ceiling.

When they'll kick it down the road again, and again...

Bad Nancy, toying with your prey like that! Just kill it already.
 
2017-09-07 12:59:27 AM  
"The democrats want to play politics with the debt ceiling."

fark. The. fark. Off.
 
2017-09-07 01:00:01 AM  

Animatronik: Eddie Adams from Torrance: "We are literally funding this government on 90-day notes. That is not the way to fund the largest, most relevant entity in the world," said Sen. Dan Sullivan, R-Alaska.

Great.. then introduce a bill to eliminate the farking debt ceiling nonsense altogether.

Spoken like a Democrat who doesn't believes that government debt matters.


We'd care if you worried about government debt when a republican is running it up. But you don't, so gfy, mmmmkay.
 
2017-09-07 01:01:13 AM  
Both the left and right don't know what to make of him because he's not a career/establishment politician. I lived in NJ when he first came on the scene in the late 70s/early 80s, couldn't stand him because of his arrogance and I got tired of hearing about this Trump project, that Trump project.

He would contribute to both parties but generally leaned left and I was stunned when he announced he was running as a republican in this last election. I don't think he won because he was the best candidate to right the ship, I think he won because some people got tired of the same ole, same ole career politicians.

Maybe he's just trying to appear bipartisan or get the left and the right to play nice, I dunno. I don't agree with DACA myself but at least he's getting both sides to work together, even if it's to block him. Shoot, maybe that's his plan.
 
2017-09-07 01:05:41 AM  
The sooner liberals and Democrats realize winning is the most important thing for Trump they'll get a lot done. He only ran as a republican to win since it is uncommon for consecutive presidencies from  the same party  after 8 years. They need to stop the constant attacks.

The challenge is that party politics won't let them do that.
 
2017-09-07 01:05:55 AM  

Greybrd: Both the left and right don't know what to make of him because he's not a career/establishment politician. I lived in NJ when he first came on the scene in the late 70s/early 80s, couldn't stand him because of his arrogance and I got tired of hearing about this Trump project, that Trump project.

He would contribute to both parties but generally leaned left and I was stunned when he announced he was running as a republican in this last election. I don't think he won because he was the best candidate to right the ship, I think he won because some people got tired of the same ole, same ole career politicians.

Maybe he's just trying to appear bipartisan or get the left and the right to play nice, I dunno. I don't agree with DACA myself but at least he's getting both sides to work together, even if it's to block him. Shoot, maybe that's his plan.


He has no clue what he's doing and had no idea his repeal was a cluster fark.  He's walking it back. Sometimes someone doing something monumentally stupid is just that, not them playing 5d ultra dimensional chess.
 
2017-09-07 01:06:50 AM  

NotTooLittleRichard: "The democrats want to play politics with the debt ceiling."

fark. The. fark. Off.


The only reason the debt ceiling even exists is as a political tool.
 
2017-09-07 01:07:42 AM  

Animatronik: Eddie Adams from Torrance: "We are literally funding this government on 90-day notes. That is not the way to fund the largest, most relevant entity in the world," said Sen. Dan Sullivan, R-Alaska.

Great.. then introduce a bill to eliminate the farking debt ceiling nonsense altogether.

Spoken like a Democrat who doesn't believes that government debt matters.


Wasn't the republicans that paid for two wars with a credit card?
 
2017-09-07 01:08:58 AM  
Wasn't it....  need edit feature Fark!
 
2017-09-07 01:09:41 AM  

Greybrd: Both the left and right don't know what to make of him because he's not a career/establishment politician.


No. Nobody gets to make this excuse. People in NY and NJ knew exactly what type of person Donald is. Some people outside the area also knew what type of person he was. And we tried to warn the rest of you, but some farkwits refused to listen.

hesaidhewasgoingto.jpg
 
2017-09-07 01:11:31 AM  
Mar-a-lago and the rest of the Palm Beach to be washed awave. The result being w ban on new ICE engines in hope destroying his realm.
 
2017-09-07 01:15:33 AM  

NotTooLittleRichard: "The democrats want to play politics with the debt ceiling."

fark. The. fark. Off.


"and that's our job, gosh darn it!"
 
2017-09-07 01:17:23 AM  

Thong_of_Zardoz: Nothing good has ever come from someone named Schumer.


i2.wp.com
 
2017-09-07 01:18:07 AM  

Lord of the Highway: Animatronik: Eddie Adams from Torrance: "We are literally funding this government on 90-day notes. That is not the way to fund the largest, most relevant entity in the world," said Sen. Dan Sullivan, R-Alaska.

Great.. then introduce a bill to eliminate the farking debt ceiling nonsense altogether.

Spoken like a Democrat who doesn't believes that government debt matters.

Wasn't the republicans that paid for two wars with a credit card?


Yeah, but they took the war tabs off the books. We didn't really have any war debt until Buildabear Hoopadoo Fartbambo put them back on the books.
 
2017-09-07 01:19:14 AM  
As a "moderate Republican," which means that until yesterday I was only sucking his dick as opposed to bending over for him, I'm appalled. Truly this man is an amoral cretin, a broken monster who should have been locked in a psychiatric ward decades ago. I can see now that he's history's greatest monster, with the possible exception of Hillary for letting him win.

But check back with me tomorrow in case I've decided to start sucking his dick again.
 
2017-09-07 01:21:20 AM  
Animatronik:

Spoken like a Democrat who doesn't believes that government debt matters.

"You know, Paul, Reagan proved that deficits don't matter."
 
2017-09-07 01:25:38 AM  

Greybrd: Both the left and right don't know what to make of him because he's not a career/establishment politician. I lived in NJ when he first came on the scene in the late 70s/early 80s, couldn't stand him because of his arrogance and I got tired of hearing about this Trump project, that Trump project.

He would contribute to both parties but generally leaned left and I was stunned when he announced he was running as a republican in this last election. I don't think he won because he was the best candidate to right the ship, I think he won because some people got tired of the same ole, same ole career politicians.

Maybe he's just trying to appear bipartisan or get the left and the right to play nice, I dunno. I don't agree with DACA myself but at least he's getting both sides to work together, even if it's to block him. Shoot, maybe that's his plan.


No.

Just, no.
 
2017-09-07 01:29:27 AM  
so if the GOP kill this, then its a disaster for them.  they'll look like the monsters we know them to be.....but if they don't kill this deal, then they're going to get boned come December.  hells, probably in October as well, now that I think on it a bit.

Trump got played.  can't say I feel sorry for any of the GOP tho.  from their perspective, this was the worst day they've had since...uh...well last week I guess.
 
2017-09-07 01:38:12 AM  
The debt ceiling was created to keep FDR from selling bonds (war, widows & orphans, economic recovery, what ever bonds he wanted to sell) to fund his agenda thus denying Congress the power of the purse.  I think we can all agree that FDR was wrong on this, and the constitution is clear on Congress' power to decide what to fund and what not to fund.  The debt ceiling was made moot in the 70's when the laws controlling the budgeting process made it illegal for the Executive branch to issue debt of any kind.  Ever since then is has been a political tchotchke and source of fake crisis to force "compromise." Oh, and a chance for Congress persons to pretend that they somehow or other don't really control spending, and that it is some other branch of government that spends the money.
 
2017-09-07 01:41:29 AM  

JulieAzel626: Greybrd: Both the left and right don't know what to make of him because he's not a career/establishment politician. I lived in NJ when he first came on the scene in the late 70s/early 80s, couldn't stand him because of his arrogance and I got tired of hearing about this Trump project, that Trump project.

He would contribute to both parties but generally leaned left and I was stunned when he announced he was running as a republican in this last election. I don't think he won because he was the best candidate to right the ship, I think he won because some people got tired of the same ole, same ole career politicians.

Maybe he's just trying to appear bipartisan or get the left and the right to play nice, I dunno. I don't agree with DACA myself but at least he's getting both sides to work together, even if it's to block him. Shoot, maybe that's his plan.

No.

Just, no.


Can I vote No, too?  A deaf 3-year-old on a kazoo seeming to improvise with a recording of Theolonious Monk has a clearer idea of what he's doing than any plan 45 might seem to have.
 
2017-09-07 01:45:22 AM  

Weaver95: so if the GOP kill this, then its a disaster for them.  they'll look like the monsters we know them to be.....but if they don't kill this deal, then they're going to get boned come December.  hells, probably in October as well, now that I think on it a bit.

Trump got played.  can't say I feel sorry for any of the GOP tho.  from their perspective, this was the worst day they've had since...uh...well last week I guess.


He did get played... and he took the first offer with no negotiation.  Such a master deal maker.  It's why I'm having bonus beers tonight.  Plus a hurricane might kill me next week.
 
2017-09-07 01:49:01 AM  

2farknfunny: The debt ceiling was created to keep FDR from selling bonds (war, widows & orphans, economic recovery, what ever bonds he wanted to sell) to fund his agenda thus denying Congress the power of the purse.  I think we can all agree that FDR was wrong on this, and the constitution is clear on Congress' power to decide what to fund and what not to fund.  The debt ceiling was made moot in the 70's when the laws controlling the budgeting process made it illegal for the Executive branch to issue debt of any kind.  Ever since then is has been a political tchotchke and source of fake crisis to force "compromise." Oh, and a chance for Congress persons to pretend that they somehow or other don't really control spending, and that it is some other branch of government that spends the money.


Could you be thinking of some other amendments or changes to the process?  The debt ceiling was created in 1917.
 
2017-09-07 01:50:48 AM  
U mad GOP?
 
2017-09-07 02:01:12 AM  
I f*cking hate Trump.  He is a vile, soulless, hateful, selfish, ugly husk of a human and I don't want to make him look good.  But if Dems can manipulate him by the ego and extract actual useful legislation from him, I'd forgive them working with him.

After all, it will piss off the GOP and make them look incompetent, keep them from passing evil things, provide useful legislation, and it isn't like the left is EVER going to think highly of Trump no matter WHAT he signs anyway.  It will only guarantee even more than he will be primaried and/or defeated next election when he loses Republican support, and also increases the chances that the GOP congress will be willing to oust him.  You just watch how quickly he is impeached once it becomes clear that he isn't going to help the Republicans with their agenda.
 
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