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(BBC-US)   After Irma came ashore on the Caribbean island of Saint Martin, the four "most solid " buildings on the island have all been reportedly destroyed   ( bbc.com) divider line
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2017-09-06 11:25:51 AM  
If other buildings are still standing, then I guess those were not the most solid 4, now were they?
 
2017-09-06 11:26:40 AM  
Dammit Irma, when I said I wanted a blow job, this isn't what I meant AT ALL!
 
2017-09-06 11:27:58 AM  
Trump: No rest for the weary

I swear, that dude is just one obsolete cliche after another.
 
2017-09-06 11:28:23 AM  

garandman1a: Dammit Irma, when I said I wanted a blow job, this isn't what I meant AT ALL!


But you claimed to be most solid.
 
2017-09-06 11:29:02 AM  
With sustained winds of 185mph, it's like an F3 tornado that goes on for hours rather than seconds.
 
2017-09-06 11:29:42 AM  

majestic: If other buildings are still standing, then I guess those were not the most solid 4, now were they?


I'd say they were mostly liquid, going by the pictures of the flooding.
 
2017-09-06 11:29:42 AM  
i would really start thinking about underground homes that can't be flooded if I lived there.
 
2017-09-06 11:30:20 AM  

berylman: i would really start thinking about underground homes that can't be flooded if I lived there.


Underground homes on an island?
 
2017-09-06 11:31:28 AM  
ichef-1.bbci.co.uk

fark me....
 
2017-09-06 11:32:18 AM  
Despacito.
 
2017-09-06 11:33:26 AM  

berylman: i would really start thinking about underground homes that can't be flooded if I lived there.


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2017-09-06 11:34:22 AM  

majestic: If other buildings are still standing, then I guess those were not the most solid 4, now were they?


Correct, assuming that all buildings were hit by the same force.  Might not have been the case, due to terrain, surroundings, vegetation, other Chaos Theory type factors, etc.
 
2017-09-06 11:35:27 AM  

garandman1a: Dammit Irma, when I said I wanted a blow job, this isn't what I meant AT ALL!


staticmass.net
This is not just a job, it's a profession.

/obscure?
 
2017-09-06 11:36:15 AM  
shiat.  The wife and I are supposed to leave for the Dominican Republic on the 16th.  Crossing my fingers that the place is still there in 10 days.
 
2017-09-06 11:37:13 AM  
He's probably using the term "destroyed" loosely.  Damage sufficient to make the building temporarily uninhabitable, such as broken windows or roofing, might be "destroyed" to him.  His first language is French or Dutch creole, not English.
 
2017-09-06 11:38:28 AM  

NASAM: shiat.  The wife and I are supposed to leave for the Dominican Republic on the 16th.  Crossing my fingers that the place is still there in 10 days.


Disaster tourism is all the rage in certain circles.
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2017-09-06 11:38:39 AM  

NASAM: shiat.  The wife and I are supposed to leave for the Dominican Republic on the 16th.  Crossing my fingers that the place is still there in 10 days.


The DR is mostly south of the storm.
 
2017-09-06 11:38:45 AM  

whidbey: Trump: No rest for the weary

I swear, that dude is just one obsolete cliche after another.


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2017-09-06 11:41:24 AM  
However Cuba looks like they are going to get a serious beating
 
2017-09-06 11:41:43 AM  
Back in the 90's I had an aunt  who, in retirement, got herself a 45 sailboat to live on  as she sailed the Caribbean.   I asked he what she'd do if a Hurricane hit the islands.  Nothing to worry about I w s told, the Island had had a direct hit in 75 years at that point, and, even if one did come up she'd just drop anchor in one the "Hurricane Hole" harbors on St John or St Thomas and she'd be safe as houses.

The a Big one came,  Hugo IIRC, and hit St Thomas Square in the face, and my Aunt, who was fortunately not ON her Boat at the time discovered what remained of the boat that had been safely anchored inthe "hole"   about five miles inland in the side of a house.

She decided that maybe the land lubbing life was for her after that and commenced to build herself a lovely house high on a hill in St Thomas....which was destroyed by the NEXT major hurricane to hit about 18 months later, about three weeks before she moved in.    After that, she rediscovered the charms of Annapolis MD
 
2017-09-06 11:42:23 AM  

berylman: i would really start thinking about underground homes that can't be flooded if I lived there.


So a submarine?
 
2017-09-06 11:42:40 AM  

garandman1a: Dammit Irma, when I said I wanted a blow job, this isn't what I meant AT ALL!


img.fark.net
 
2017-09-06 11:42:54 AM  

majestic: If other buildings are still standing, then I guess those were not the most solid 4, now were they?


The 4 strongest, not the 4 luckiest.

/Much better to be lucky in life than skilled at life.
 
2017-09-06 11:43:17 AM  

ManateeGag: whidbey: Trump: No rest for the weary

I swear, that dude is just one obsolete cliche after another.

[img.fark.net image 650x372]


Hopefully nobody tries to flee the storm in a dilapidated boat
 
2017-09-06 11:43:39 AM  

texdent: berylman: i would really start thinking about underground homes that can't be flooded if I lived there.

Underground homes on an island?


encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
Depends on the island. Volcanic like St. Marin? No problem. Flat like the Keys...your screwed.
 
2017-09-06 11:46:58 AM  

Slypork: garandman1a: Dammit Irma, when I said I wanted a blow job, this isn't what I meant AT ALL!

[staticmass.net image 300x400]
This is not just a job, it's a profession.

/obscure?


La Douce
 
2017-09-06 11:48:16 AM  
Barbuda taking a direct hit too.  Wind gust of 155 mph recorded right before weather station was seen leaving the area at 155 mph.
 
2017-09-06 11:49:21 AM  

texdent: berylman: i would really start thinking about underground homes that can't be flooded if I lived there.

Underground homes on an island?


Hatches?
 
2017-09-06 11:49:28 AM  

GentDirkly: He's probably using the term "destroyed" loosely.  Damage sufficient to make the building temporarily uninhabitable, such as broken windows or roofing, might be "destroyed" to him.  His first language is French or Dutch creole, not English.


After watching a webstream of ARS, early this morning, I would probably tend to agree with you.  I couldn't tell you which "dialect" it was, but their word "usage" was definitely different.

/my difficulty level is that it was around 2:45 in the morning
//..."pit stop"
///get off my lawn
 
2017-09-06 11:52:03 AM  
i.imgur.com

HANG ON TO OUR HOUSE, MICHAEL, DON'T LET YOUR MOTHER DOWN OR IT'LL BE ALL YOUR FAULT FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE NO MATTER WHAT THAT POPPINS WOMAN SAYS
 
2017-09-06 11:52:36 AM  

HighOnCraic: texdent: berylman: i would really start thinking about underground homes that can't be flooded if I lived there.

Underground homes on an island?

Hatches?


The downside is you have to press the button every 15 minutes.
 
2017-09-06 11:54:14 AM  

texdent: berylman: i would really start thinking about underground homes that can't be flooded if I lived there.

Underground homes on an island?


Are you afraid they might make the island tip over or something?
 
2017-09-06 11:54:20 AM  
Live footage as Hurricane Irma destroys Maho Beach Cam in St Maarten 9/6/2017
Youtube dA5qYrboTUE
 
2017-09-06 11:55:51 AM  
The structural standards in the islands ( or Florida, which is its own country, let's be honest here.) are not the same standards that you would find in industrialized nations.
 
TWX
2017-09-06 11:56:36 AM  
The four "most solid" buildings on Saint Martin, shared by France and the Netherlands, were destroyed, French Interior Minister Gérard Collomb said.

What I don't get is why France and the Netherlands share buildings. It's not a huge island but there's enough room for each of them to have their own buildings.
 
2017-09-06 12:00:40 PM  
R.I.P.
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2017-09-06 12:00:50 PM  
Here's an absolutely insane video of those buildings getting destroyed. Apparently they also have some pretty solid video cameras too
 
2017-09-06 12:00:58 PM  
img.fark.net
"So Irma came to Martinique,
When she arrive things got pretty bleak.
All the homes looked like they would buckle in.
The tribulation caused by that big damn wind!"
 
2017-09-06 12:01:40 PM  

Shirley Ujest: The structural standards in the islands ( or Florida, which is its own country, let's be honest here.) are not the same standards that you would find in industrialized nations.


Now, now. I don't know about the islands, but Florida's got a pretty serious building code. I just finished up a beach house designed for 160 mph. Now you could argue that it should be designed for a stronger wind speed, but it follows the standards of ASCE 7-10 for structural loading, which is used throughout the country.
 
2017-09-06 12:04:44 PM  

Shirley Ujest: The structural standards in the islands ( or Florida, which is its own country, let's be honest here.) are not the same standards that you would find in industrialized nations.


Never been to St Maartin, but in the Virgins the predominate building technique is poured concrete.  Structures will lose their roofs, doors and windows but the walls will stand.

Of course the other main building style is the "corrugated tin roof shack".  Those don't do so well.
 
2017-09-06 12:07:36 PM  

TWX: The four "most solid" buildings on Saint Martin, shared by France and the Netherlands, were destroyed, French Interior Minister Gérard Collomb said.

What I don't get is why France and the Netherlands share buildings. It's not a huge island but there's enough room for each of them to have their own buildings.


I'm wondering how the four "least solid" buildings are doing.
 
2017-09-06 12:09:56 PM  

IoSaturnalia: Shirley Ujest: The structural standards in the islands ( or Florida, which is its own country, let's be honest here.) are not the same standards that you would find in industrialized nations.

Never been to St Maartin, but in the Virgins the predominate building technique is poured concrete.  Structures will lose their roofs, doors and windows but the walls will stand.

Of course the other main building style is the "corrugated tin roof shack".  Those don't do so well.


Which is why building there is incredibly expensive.   Believe it or not you not only have to ship in the SAND to make Concrete in the USVI (the beaches are coral not sand, but the WATER too since the local water has too much salt which weakens the final structure
 
2017-09-06 12:09:58 PM  
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2017-09-06 12:11:08 PM  
"Watching Hurricane closely," Mr Trump tweeted on Wednesday. "My team, which has done, and is doing, such a good job in Texas, is already in Florida. No rest for the weary!"

He just can't EVER resist the chance to suck his own farking cock, can he?

itcamefromschenectady: TWX: The four "most solid" buildings on Saint Martin, shared by France and the Netherlands, were destroyed, French Interior Minister Gérard Collomb said.

What I don't get is why France and the Netherlands share buildings. It's not a huge island but there's enough room for each of them to have their own buildings.

I'm wondering how the four "least solid" buildings are doing.


Probably not too badly... Some of those shacks are the ones most likely to survive shiat like this. Who knows, they may even get an upgrade, as the storm lifts their house up and deposits it nice and intact on some prime real estate. :-)
 
2017-09-06 12:12:25 PM  

sandbar67: Here's an absolutely insane video of those buildings getting destroyed. Apparently they also have some pretty solid video cameras too


I'm impressed they still had working lights.
 
2017-09-06 12:14:38 PM  

Private_Citizen: NASAM: shiat.  The wife and I are supposed to leave for the Dominican Republic on the 16th.  Crossing my fingers that the place is still there in 10 days.

Disaster tourism is all the rage in certain circles.
[img.fark.net image 425x283]


Poor couple.  Two of their homes are in the direct path of this hurricane.  Won't anyone think of their struggle?
 
2017-09-06 12:16:01 PM  

Private_Citizen: NASAM: shiat.  The wife and I are supposed to leave for the Dominican Republic on the 16th.  Crossing my fingers that the place is still there in 10 days.

Disaster tourism is all the rage in certain circles.
[img.fark.net image 425x283]


the higher the flooding the higher Melania's stilettos
 
2017-09-06 12:16:06 PM  
I want a monolithic dome
http://www.monolithic.org/homes
 
2017-09-06 12:16:27 PM  

whidbey: HighOnCraic: texdent: berylman: i would really start thinking about underground homes that can't be flooded if I lived there.

Underground homes on an island?

Hatches?

The downside is you have to press the button every 15 minutes.


108 minutes.
 
TWX
2017-09-06 12:20:24 PM  

Shirley Ujest: The structural standards in the islands ( or Florida, which is its own country, let's be honest here.) are not the same standards that you would find in industrialized nations.


A friend of mine was stationed on Guam for four years and the off-base housing was constructed using hollow foam bricks that had concrete poured through them. This building technique was able to withstand storms extremely well with only superficial damage to whatever facade was applied over the foam. Not all structures built on remote islands are built poorly.

I've seen new homes and commercial buildings for shopping convenient to those homes built during these housing booms that are poorly constructed in an area with halfway decent building codes. 2x4 construction nailed together, barely enough structure to hold up the roof, sheetrock, and infrastructure, poorly insulated, poor sound deadening, PEX tubing for the water system. Only thing seemingly decent is the electrical, and that's mainly because Romex and other NM cable makes it easy to get the electrical wiring right without necessarily being all that skilled. Strong weather hitting these buildings has tendency to damage them, sometimes severely.
 
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