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2017-09-06 12:14:39 AM  
Donnie punted, and he did it not for the yardage, but just get some attention, and he left Congress holding the bag for this, and they'll either have to try to pass something, and lose the Idjit Brigade in doing so, or they'll fail, and lose even more minorities, who are still quickly shaping up to be "the majority" fair soon, and their kids are going to remember this sh*t. All because he got upstaged by hurricane survivors and the spectre of the investigation that is STILL gearing up to ride all over the White House lawn and leave some SICK tracks.

This is the deep thinker that y'all wanted, this is the deep thinker y'all got. Y'all won. Get over it.
 
2017-09-06 12:19:20 AM  
They hate gay bathrooms.
 
2017-09-06 12:25:32 AM  
Trump's legacy is more likely to look like Wilson's remarkable success at driving Latinos out of the GOP.

I'm surprised there are any left. How rich do you have to be to make it worth hating yourself that much?
 
2017-09-06 12:30:04 AM  
Pito Wilson...I haven't thought about that asshole in years.
 
2017-09-06 12:33:08 AM  
Well, what better way to destroy a party than from within.  How soon before the GOP removes this tumor?  Oh right...tax cuts.
 
2017-09-06 12:33:12 AM  
well, this should certainly make the 2018 mid term elections rather interesting.
 
2017-09-06 12:36:58 AM  
So, he IS a Democrat plant!
 
2017-09-06 12:39:03 AM  
This is exactly why why the GOP hates Donnie.

Look for a GOP mid-term moderate challenger to oppose Donnie now
 
2017-09-06 12:42:58 AM  
Trump seems to be governing as if hes going to seize power in 2018-2019.  repealing the DACA, Arpaio's pardon, Charlottesville, and the muslim ban....its an abundantly clear message of racism and hate.  guess where the backlash is going to land?  hint: it ain't gonna slam the democrats kids.

so unless the GOP plans on a military coup, 2018 is likely to see the end of GOP control over congress.  say goodbye to AZ and TX as red states, and quite possibly florida as well.  any state with a large Hispanic population is going to be FURIOUS with the republicans.  not even the abortion distraction is going to save the GOP from this hell storm of fury they've unleashed on themselves.
 
2017-09-06 12:43:33 AM  
I'm beginning to think that this whole Republicans must never speak ill of other Republicans thing just miiiiiggght be not working out too well for them.
 
2017-09-06 12:45:23 AM  

Weaver95: Trump seems to be governing as if hes going to seize power in 2018-2019.  repealing the DACA, Arpaio's pardon, Charlottesville, and the muslim ban....its an abundantly clear message of racism and hate.  guess where the backlash is going to land?  hint: it ain't gonna slam the democrats kids.

so unless the GOP plans on a military coup, 2018 is likely to see the end of GOP control over congress.  say goodbye to AZ and TX as red states, and quite possibly florida as well.  any state with a large Hispanic population is going to be FURIOUS with the republicans.  not even the abortion distraction is going to save the GOP from this hell storm of fury they've unleashed on themselves.


http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-trumps-assault-o​n​-dreamers-might-workpolitically-w501352

Not saying I agree with this, but it's plausible.
 
2017-09-06 12:57:35 AM  

sirrerun: Weaver95: Trump seems to be governing as if hes going to seize power in 2018-2019.  repealing the DACA, Arpaio's pardon, Charlottesville, and the muslim ban....its an abundantly clear message of racism and hate.  guess where the backlash is going to land?  hint: it ain't gonna slam the democrats kids.

so unless the GOP plans on a military coup, 2018 is likely to see the end of GOP control over congress.  say goodbye to AZ and TX as red states, and quite possibly florida as well.  any state with a large Hispanic population is going to be FURIOUS with the republicans.  not even the abortion distraction is going to save the GOP from this hell storm of fury they've unleashed on themselves.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-trumps-assault-on​-dreamers-might-workpolitically-w501352

Not saying I agree with this, but it's plausible.


It's very likely to work.  Not only do People underestimate how many people are totes not racist, but totes think racists have feelings to be considered.
 
2017-09-06 01:14:11 AM  

blastoh: sirrerun: Weaver95: Trump seems to be governing as if hes going to seize power in 2018-2019.  repealing the DACA, Arpaio's pardon, Charlottesville, and the muslim ban....its an abundantly clear message of racism and hate.  guess where the backlash is going to land?  hint: it ain't gonna slam the democrats kids.

so unless the GOP plans on a military coup, 2018 is likely to see the end of GOP control over congress.  say goodbye to AZ and TX as red states, and quite possibly florida as well.  any state with a large Hispanic population is going to be FURIOUS with the republicans.  not even the abortion distraction is going to save the GOP from this hell storm of fury they've unleashed on themselves.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-trumps-assault-on​-dreamers-might-workpolitically-w501352

Not saying I agree with this, but it's plausible.

It's very likely to work.  Not only do People underestimate how many people are totes not racist, but totes think racists have feelings to be considered.


They're totally not racist! They have a black Hispanic friend and all.
 
2017-09-06 01:17:37 AM  

themindiswatching: blastoh: sirrerun: Weaver95: Trump seems to be governing as if hes going to seize power in 2018-2019.  repealing the DACA, Arpaio's pardon, Charlottesville, and the muslim ban....its an abundantly clear message of racism and hate.  guess where the backlash is going to land?  hint: it ain't gonna slam the democrats kids.

so unless the GOP plans on a military coup, 2018 is likely to see the end of GOP control over congress.  say goodbye to AZ and TX as red states, and quite possibly florida as well.  any state with a large Hispanic population is going to be FURIOUS with the republicans.  not even the abortion distraction is going to save the GOP from this hell storm of fury they've unleashed on themselves.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-trumps-assault-on​-dreamers-might-workpolitically-w501352

Not saying I agree with this, but it's plausible.

It's very likely to work.  Not only do People underestimate how many people are totes not racist, but totes think racists have feelings to be considered.

They're totally not racist! They have a black Hispanic friend and all.


Yeah, but that friend is 'one of the good ones.'
 
2017-09-06 01:21:21 AM  
I can't see how the GOP is going to survive trump.  not without a military coup.  repealing DACA is a bridge too far for the republicans and even THEY knew it.  the GOP didn't want this done, and told trump NOT to do it because of the consequences they're now going to face.
 
2017-09-06 01:24:25 AM  
The GOP leadership needs to get over the navy blue suit, white dress shirt, red tie, and flag pin most politicians are required to wear because that represents some of the most vile aspects of US racisim and patriotism.
 
2017-09-06 01:30:16 AM  

blastoh: sirrerun: Weaver95: Trump seems to be governing as if hes going to seize power in 2018-2019.  repealing the DACA, Arpaio's pardon, Charlottesville, and the muslim ban....its an abundantly clear message of racism and hate.  guess where the backlash is going to land?  hint: it ain't gonna slam the democrats kids.

so unless the GOP plans on a military coup, 2018 is likely to see the end of GOP control over congress.  say goodbye to AZ and TX as red states, and quite possibly florida as well.  any state with a large Hispanic population is going to be FURIOUS with the republicans.  not even the abortion distraction is going to save the GOP from this hell storm of fury they've unleashed on themselves.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-trumps-assault-on​-dreamers-might-workpolitically-w501352

Not saying I agree with this, but it's plausible.

It's very likely to work.  Not only do People underestimate how many people are totes not racist, but totes think racists have feelings to be considered.


The problem is those voters are already activated. Trump won in part because he got racists to vote that hadn't before. What ending DACA does is cement opposition further, as the Muslim ban did, plus keep underlining the GOP as hopelessly white supremacy. All Trump has done this summer has been defend Charlottesville, pardon Arpaio, and this. That's a shrinking base.
 
2017-09-06 01:37:49 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: What ending DACA does is cement opposition further, as the Muslim ban did, plus keep underlining the GOP as hopelessly white supremacy. All Trump has done this summer has been defend Charlottesville, pardon Arpaio, and this. That's a shrinking base.


exactly.  trump now has all of the support he is EVER going to get.  its not going to get any better for him.  this is his peak.  After this, it goes downhill.  the GOP leadership knows this, hence their refusal to touch DACA.  trump tho...he just blundered thru it like a bull in a china shop.  now the republicans have to deal with what they know will be a massive backlash against their party in every state with a large latino voting bloc.

even the democratic parties tendency to be incredibly stupid won't save them from winning back Congress.  Trump's alienated too many people now to stop the GOP from getting booted out of power around the country.
 
2017-09-06 02:07:02 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: blastoh: sirrerun: Weaver95: Trump seems to be governing as if hes going to seize power in 2018-2019.  repealing the DACA, Arpaio's pardon, Charlottesville, and the muslim ban....its an abundantly clear message of racism and hate.  guess where the backlash is going to land?  hint: it ain't gonna slam the democrats kids.

so unless the GOP plans on a military coup, 2018 is likely to see the end of GOP control over congress.  say goodbye to AZ and TX as red states, and quite possibly florida as well.  any state with a large Hispanic population is going to be FURIOUS with the republicans.  not even the abortion distraction is going to save the GOP from this hell storm of fury they've unleashed on themselves.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-trumps-assault-on​-dreamers-might-workpolitically-w501352

Not saying I agree with this, but it's plausible.

It's very likely to work.  Not only do People underestimate how many people are totes not racist, but totes think racists have feelings to be considered.

The problem is those voters are already activated. Trump won in part because he got racists to vote that hadn't before. What ending DACA does is cement opposition further, as the Muslim ban did, plus keep underlining the GOP as hopelessly white supremacy. All Trump has done this summer has been defend Charlottesville, pardon Arpaio, and this. That's a shrinking base.


Which is why if a GOP candidate starts running now (Ryan, Kasich) and is able as a centrist to challenge Trump ,the party that almost nominated Sanders is hosed.
 
2017-09-06 03:46:39 AM  

fusillade762: Trump's legacy is more likely to look like Wilson's remarkable success at driving Latinos out of the GOP.

I'm surprised there are any left. How rich do you have to be to make it worth hating yourself that much?


Socially conservative and Catholic.
 
2017-09-06 03:52:38 AM  
Weaver95:  2018 is likely to see the end of GOP control over congress.

Peter Thiel will release some addictive app that simulates voting a week or so before the election, and the Republicans will maintain control  as Democrats are distracted.
 
2017-09-06 03:54:27 AM  

Harry_Seldon: Weaver95:  2018 is likely to see the end of GOP control over congress.

Peter Thiel will release some addictive app that simulates voting a week or so before the election, and the Republicans will maintain control  as Democrats are distracted.


all kidding aside, I don't think the GOP is going to be able to distract their way outta this backlash.  I've NEVER seen anger at this level before.  both 'sides' are incredibly pissed off and trump just keeps turning up the heat like there's no tomorrow.
 
2017-09-06 03:57:06 AM  

fusillade762: Trump's legacy is more likely to look like Wilson's remarkable success at driving Latinos out of the GOP.

I'm surprised there are any left. How rich do you have to be to make it worth hating yourself that much?


A lot of them really hate abortions.
 
2017-09-06 03:59:01 AM  

shpritz: A lot of them really hate abortions.


Women.
 
2017-09-06 04:03:56 AM  

Weaver95: 2018 is likely to see the end of GOP control over congress.  say goodbye to AZ and TX as red states, and quite possibly florida as well.


You do realize Roy Moore is 3 months away from being elected (overwhelmingly) as a US Senator, right? You really, really underestimate hatred as an incentive to vote.

One thing I keep noticing in liberal reaction to the DACA decision - the word "cruel" keeps popping up. That's exactly the right word. However, the left is hoping this will appeal to humanity in the right. In fact, the Trump base knows it's cruel. That's the reason they love it.
 
2017-09-06 04:17:24 AM  
havocmike:  You do realize Roy Moore is 3 months away from being elected (overwhelmingly) as a US Senator, right? You really, really underestimate hatred as an incentive to vote.

I get their motivation. I am personally everything they hate about the educated liberal coastal elite. I have spent decades trying to help, but I realize the only reasonable response at this point is: Living well is the best revenge.
 
2017-09-06 04:18:51 AM  

havocmike: Weaver95: 2018 is likely to see the end of GOP control over congress.  say goodbye to AZ and TX as red states, and quite possibly florida as well.

You do realize Roy Moore is 3 months away from being elected (overwhelmingly) as a US Senator, right? You really, really underestimate hatred as an incentive to vote.

One thing I keep noticing in liberal reaction to the DACA decision - the word "cruel" keeps popping up. That's exactly the right word. However, the left is hoping this will appeal to humanity in the right. In fact, the Trump base knows it's cruel. That's the reason they love it.


Not so sure about that:
New polling.
 
2017-09-06 04:20:28 AM  
Not only will this piss off Latinos and sour them on the GOP, he is forcing the GOP as a whole to replace DACA or else look like even bigger a-holes.  This is liable to anger the bases of many of them, which makes it a dangerous vote; some may be primaried or attacked for "supporting amnesty".  Of course, if they don't support it, anyone who isn't a Trumper or a Tea Partier will know they're irredeemably heartless.

And now that this is out there, the only way Trump can save them from the situation he put them in is to rescind the ending of DACA, which will make him look even more incompetent and indecisive than he already does, as well as piss off his base.
 
2017-09-06 04:20:36 AM  

jibjabjobu: havocmike: Weaver95: 2018 is likely to see the end of GOP control over congress.  say goodbye to AZ and TX as red states, and quite possibly florida as well.

You do realize Roy Moore is 3 months away from being elected (overwhelmingly) as a US Senator, right? You really, really underestimate hatred as an incentive to vote.

One thing I keep noticing in liberal reaction to the DACA decision - the word "cruel" keeps popping up. That's exactly the right word. However, the left is hoping this will appeal to humanity in the right. In fact, the Trump base knows it's cruel. That's the reason they love it.

Not so sure about that:
New polling.


And I'm an idiot.
 
2017-09-06 04:27:43 AM  

Weaver95: Trump seems to be governing as if hes going to seize power in 2018-2019.  repealing the DACA, Arpaio's pardon, Charlottesville, and the muslim ban....its an abundantly clear message of racism and hate.  guess where the backlash is going to land?  hint: it ain't gonna slam the democrats kids.

so unless the GOP plans on a military coup, 2018 is likely to see the end of GOP control over congress.  say goodbye to AZ and TX as red states, and quite possibly florida as well.  any state with a large Hispanic population is going to be FURIOUS with the republicans.  not even the abortion distraction is going to save the GOP from this hell storm of fury they've unleashed on themselves.


I wish it were so, but no. The Republicans control the map, at least as far as the House is concerned. Senate and White House can change hands but, until the demographics shift some more, the Republicans have the House on lock.

I'd be happy as hell to be proven wrong.
 
2017-09-06 04:30:11 AM  

havocmike: You do realize Roy Moore is 3 months away from being elected (overwhelmingly) as a US Senator, right? You really, really underestimate hatred as an incentive to vote.


hate got Trump elected.  hate keeps evangelicals in their mansions, and keeps idiots like roy moore in the headlines.

hate can also end Trump easily enough.  I think there's even a pithy saying or three along those lines.
 
2017-09-06 04:31:35 AM  

BalugaJoe: They hate gay bathrooms.


Who would want to use a miserable bathroom?
 
2017-09-06 04:32:24 AM  
I think the article's author is forgetting one thing, most states do not have as diverse a population as California.  Lets not start sucking each others dicks just yet.
 
2017-09-06 04:53:02 AM  

Gawdzila: Not only will this piss off Latinos and sour them on the GOP, he is forcing the GOP as a whole to replace DACA or else look like even bigger a-holes.  This is liable to anger the bases of many of them, which makes it a dangerous vote; some may be primaried or attacked for "supporting amnesty".  Of course, if they don't support it, anyone who isn't a Trumper or a Tea Partier will know they're irredeemably heartless.

And now that this is out there, the only way Trump can save them from the situation he put them in is to rescind the ending of DACA, which will make him look even more incompetent and indecisive than he already does, as well as piss off his base.


And Puerto Rico is about to get hit by a Cat V hurricane. I'd be willing to bet that his response to the plight of the Puerto Ricans isn't going to do the GOP any favors either. Hell, I doubt he realizes they are citizens.
 
2017-09-06 04:59:06 AM  

Gawdzila: Not only will this piss off Latinos and sour them on the GOP, he is forcing the GOP as a whole to replace DACA or else look like even bigger a-holes.  This is liable to anger the bases of many of them, which makes it a dangerous vote; some may be primaried or attacked for "supporting amnesty".  Of course, if they don't support it, anyone who isn't a Trumper or a Tea Partier will know they're irredeemably heartless.

And now that this is out there, the only way Trump can save them from the situation he put them in is to rescind the ending of DACA, which will make him look even more incompetent and indecisive than he already does, as well as piss off his base.


given how desperate the trumpers have been acting today, i'd say that even they were not expecting to see this big of a backlash so quickly.  there were protest marches almost immediately, and they weren't small ones either.

the GOP elites i've seen are fricking terrified of what this will do to their party.  THEY know what's coming.  the trumpers are sitting ducks and don't even realize it.
 
2017-09-06 05:03:37 AM  
USA Today has such a purposely right wing TV station in my town,  they put FOX to shame. One of the strange quirks in their editorial posing is to have you believe you live in California, and by watching you can stay up on all the fringe wing cult news to wow your friends at the PTA "Let's be more like home school" shouting match.
 
2017-09-06 05:11:12 AM  

Harry_Seldon: fusillade762: Trump's legacy is more likely to look like Wilson's remarkable success at driving Latinos out of the GOP.

I'm surprised there are any left. How rich do you have to be to make it worth hating yourself that much?

Socially conservative and Catholic.


Ding ding!!   Both mom and pops sides of the family have heavy GOP leanings to this day.   Never talk immigration with rich Latinos (or some naturalized citizens in general).  I got mine, f*ck you is all too common.
 
2017-09-06 05:15:09 AM  

Weaver95: Trump seems to be governing as if hes going to seize power in 2018-2019.  repealing the DACA, Arpaio's pardon, Charlottesville, and the muslim ban....its an abundantly clear message of racism and hate.  guess where the backlash is going to land?  hint: it ain't gonna slam the democrats kids.

so unless the GOP plans on a military coup, 2018 is likely to see the end of GOP control over congress.  say goodbye to AZ and TX as red states, and quite possibly florida as well.  any state with a large Hispanic population is going to be FURIOUS with the republicans.  not even the abortion distraction is going to save the GOP from this hell storm of fury they've unleashed on themselves.


Difficulty: requires people actually show up for the mid-terms. And be let in to cast their vote.
 
2017-09-06 05:15:59 AM  

Foghorn of Ignorance: Difficulty: requires people actually show up for the mid-terms


I don't think that's gonna be a problem this time 'round.
 
2017-09-06 05:23:56 AM  

Weaver95: Foghorn of Ignorance: Difficulty: requires people actually show up for the mid-terms

I don't think that's gonna be a problem this time 'round.


40 million fewer people expected to vote in 2018, study finds

The study, conducted by the Washington-based research firm Lake Research Partners and released by The Voter Participation Center, found that among the 40 million Americans expected not to vote in 2018, nearly two-thirds are considered part of the "Rising American Electorate" - a block consisting of millennials, unmarried women and people of color, who account for more than half of the country's eligible voters.
 
2017-09-06 05:33:56 AM  

Foghorn of Ignorance: Weaver95: Foghorn of Ignorance: Difficulty: requires people actually show up for the mid-terms

I don't think that's gonna be a problem this time 'round.

40 million fewer people expected to vote in 2018, study finds

The study, conducted by the Washington-based research firm Lake Research Partners and released by The Voter Participation Center, found that among the 40 million Americans expected not to vote in 2018, nearly two-thirds are considered part of the "Rising American Electorate" - a block consisting of millennials, unmarried women and people of color, who account for more than half of the country's eligible voters.


7/20/17.  there's been about 40 scandals and several presidential hand jobs to various nazis and members of the KKK since then.

but you go right on being concerned.  I suspect we're going to see some VERY motivated people get out and vote next year.
 
2017-09-06 05:38:02 AM  

jibjabjobu: havocmike: Weaver95: 2018 is likely to see the end of GOP control over congress.  say goodbye to AZ and TX as red states, and quite possibly florida as well.

You do realize Roy Moore is 3 months away from being elected (overwhelmingly) as a US Senator, right? You really, really underestimate hatred as an incentive to vote.

One thing I keep noticing in liberal reaction to the DACA decision - the word "cruel" keeps popping up. That's exactly the right word. However, the left is hoping this will appeal to humanity in the right. In fact, the Trump base knows it's cruel. That's the reason they love it.

Not so sure about that:
New polling.


This is an off-cycle special election. It'll all come down to turnout. Roy Moore motivates his base. Luther's only hope is that the anti-Moore contingent in the state decides to hold their nose and vote for him.
 
2017-09-06 05:47:20 AM  

Weaver95: Foghorn of Ignorance: Weaver95: Foghorn of Ignorance: Difficulty: requires people actually show up for the mid-terms

I don't think that's gonna be a problem this time 'round.

40 million fewer people expected to vote in 2018, study finds

The study, conducted by the Washington-based research firm Lake Research Partners and released by The Voter Participation Center, found that among the 40 million Americans expected not to vote in 2018, nearly two-thirds are considered part of the "Rising American Electorate" - a block consisting of millennials, unmarried women and people of color, who account for more than half of the country's eligible voters.

7/20/17.  there's been about 40 scandals and several presidential hand jobs to various nazis and members of the KKK since then.

but you go right on being concerned.  I suspect we're going to see some VERY motivated people get out and vote next year.


Yeah, and you had 18 months of Trump scandals during the campaign and still elected him President. You elected W - twice. You spent the entirety of Obama's time in office electing Republicans.

Concerned? No, not my fight. Just familiar with the American electorate's tendency to snatch unbelievable stupid from the jaws of victory.
 
2017-09-06 05:51:04 AM  

Foghorn of Ignorance: Yeah, and you had 18 months of Trump scandals during the campaign and still elected him President.


well to be fair, nobody ever considered the fact that trump would commit treason to win the white house.
 
2017-09-06 05:52:07 AM  
I don't expect non-evangelicals to vote in the midterms. They never do and now won't change anything.

The real problem with the GOP is with the debt ceiling. They're facing must-do legislation for the rest of the year, including Harvey relief, and I expect them to fail utterly. Adding DACA to the docket just makes things worse. The Hastert rule will be a severe problem.
 
2017-09-06 06:06:01 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: The real problem with the GOP is with the debt ceiling. They're facing must-do legislation for the rest of the year, including Harvey relief, and I expect them to fail utterly. Adding DACA to the docket just makes things worse. The Hastert rule will be a severe problem.


I wonder how the GOP rich elite types feel about Trump threatening to implode the economy if he doesn't get his stupid wall...?
 
2017-09-06 06:09:52 AM  

Weaver95: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: The real problem with the GOP is with the debt ceiling. They're facing must-do legislation for the rest of the year, including Harvey relief, and I expect them to fail utterly. Adding DACA to the docket just makes things worse. The Hastert rule will be a severe problem.

I wonder how the GOP rich elite types feel about Trump threatening to implode the economy if he doesn't get his stupid wall...?


Mildly annoyed? They still need their tax cuts and aren't getting them. If the economy implodes they'll be fine. They can always buy land and stuff on sale, disaster capitalism. The ones who hate the impending implosion are business leaders and the GOP money backers aren't business leaders.
 
2017-09-06 06:17:37 AM  
We'll see how this shapes up in 2018/
 
2017-09-06 06:18:31 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Mildly annoyed? They still need their tax cuts and aren't getting them. If the economy implodes they'll be fine. They can always buy land and stuff on sale, disaster capitalism. The ones who hate the impending implosion are business leaders and the GOP money backers aren't business leaders.


I think the business community is appalled by trump.  chaos is bad for business, and trump's management has led ONLY to chaos.  none of them like what he's doing, and they were the first to bail on him when the racism became blatantly obvious.

should trump decide to shut down the fedgov, he won't have the popular support to see it thru to the end.  nor will the GOP as a whole, for that matter.  Trump's making sure that every member of the GOP understands that he considers them all to be expendable cannon fodder to save himself and his white house.  what trump doesn't seem to understand is that the GOP leadership isn't going to fall on their swords for him.   And before anyone doubts that fact consider that Trump had full control of congress and STILL couldn't get Obamacare repealed even WITH the help of the republican party.
 
2017-09-06 06:19:50 AM  

Banned on the Run: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: blastoh: sirrerun: Weaver95: Trump seems to be governing as if hes going to seize power in 2018-2019.  repealing the DACA, Arpaio's pardon, Charlottesville, and the muslim ban....its an abundantly clear message of racism and hate.  guess where the backlash is going to land?  hint: it ain't gonna slam the democrats kids.

so unless the GOP plans on a military coup, 2018 is likely to see the end of GOP control over congress.  say goodbye to AZ and TX as red states, and quite possibly florida as well.  any state with a large Hispanic population is going to be FURIOUS with the republicans.  not even the abortion distraction is going to save the GOP from this hell storm of fury they've unleashed on themselves.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-trumps-assault-on​-dreamers-might-workpolitically-w501352

Not saying I agree with this, but it's plausible.

It's very likely to work.  Not only do People underestimate how many people are totes not racist, but totes think racists have feelings to be considered.

The problem is those voters are already activated. Trump won in part because he got racists to vote that hadn't before. What ending DACA does is cement opposition further, as the Muslim ban did, plus keep underlining the GOP as hopelessly white supremacy. All Trump has done this summer has been defend Charlottesville, pardon Arpaio, and this. That's a shrinking base.

Which is why if a GOP candidate starts running now (Ryan, Kasich) and is able as a centrist to challenge Trump ,the party that almost nominated Sanders is hosed.


Yeah, no. If an "Establishment" Republican ousts Trump, the GOP loses the racist assholes. Without racist assholes, all the gains they've made since 2010 are at risk.

Remember, racism was only part of what got Trump elected. Trump voters were also people who were frustrated and angry with their lot in life, and blamed 'the Establishment', Democrats and Republicans alike.
 
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