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2017-09-05 06:26:35 PM  
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/obscure?
 
2017-09-05 06:30:10 PM  

abhorrent1: [68.media.tumblr.com image 287x184]

/obscure?


Yes. Totally obscure. No one could possibly get that reference, especially when Murtaugh is mentioned in the headline.
 
2017-09-05 08:12:16 PM  
Lethal Weapon 1-6 I could get, but this is getting ridiculous.

/The hardcore sex scene between Chief Lazarus and the Shaman woman in LW6 was pushing it
 
2017-09-05 08:20:21 PM  
Hope the school kicks her out, at least.
 
2017-09-05 08:41:19 PM  
There's no word on a motive.

Awwwww. I know what these means! Somebody has a crush on a certain boy.
 
2017-09-05 08:43:48 PM  
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2017-09-05 08:44:26 PM  
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Tragically, diplomatic immunity did not save her.
 
2017-09-05 08:45:32 PM  
Immunity, sure.  But that doesn't prevent  the kid's expulsion from school.
 
2017-09-05 08:48:50 PM  
She may have diplomatic immunity but the government can still kick her out of the country.
 
2017-09-05 08:50:17 PM  
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2017-09-05 08:50:23 PM  

LordOfThePings: [img.fark.net image 301x230]


Aw, dammit, just realized yesterday was a holiday.
 
2017-09-05 08:56:50 PM  
I stabbed a couple kids when I was little... both with pencils.

One kid got in the middle of an argument between me and someone else (1st or 2nd grade).  Apparently he was on my side.  Got him in the arm and broke the lead off.  The other one was a girl who shoved me from behind in 3rd or 4th grade... maybe she had a crush on me?  Got her in the back.

Thankfully I outgrew it, and/or my writing instruments became more blunt.  Now the worst you can expect from me is getting hit over the head with a keyboard or me typing really mean things about me, and even then it takes quite a lot of provocation.  All my neighbors voted for Trump and none of them have keyboard shaped bruises yet.
 
2017-09-05 09:04:15 PM  
I really want to hear what led up to the stabbing.
 
2017-09-05 09:07:41 PM  

namegoeshere: I really want to hear what led up to the stabbing.


I'll bet they were discussing the pros and cons of apartheid.
 
2017-09-05 09:09:01 PM  
Diplomatic immunity generally only holds for diplomats and their families who are doing actual diplomatic things. It's been abused, but legally that's what it covers.
In general, a minor stabbing a classmate doesn't fall under diplomatic activity.
NYC has this issue with broad diplomatic immunity claims, and every few years they push it and the various actors get expelled from the US.
 
2017-09-05 09:11:07 PM  
This week on Quincy, M.E.....................
 
2017-09-05 09:17:38 PM  
I bet he doesn't ever call her a "Commie Biatch" again.
 
2017-09-05 09:29:33 PM  

abhorrent1: [68.media.tumblr.com image 287x184]

/obscure?


There is nothing obscure about V for Vendetta.
 
2017-09-05 09:33:46 PM  

garkola: Diplomatic immunity generally only holds for diplomats and their families who are doing actual diplomatic things. It's been abused, but legally that's what it covers.
In general, a minor stabbing a classmate doesn't fall under diplomatic activity.
NYC has this issue with broad diplomatic immunity claims, and every few years they push it and the various actors get expelled from the US.


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2017-09-05 09:34:05 PM  

abhorrent1: [68.media.tumblr.com image 287x184]

/obscure?


Your obscurity has just been revoked.
 
2017-09-05 09:35:55 PM  

SirEattonHogg: [img.fark.net image 480x270]

Tragically, diplomatic immunity did not save her.


Is that Christina Ricci?

This is important.  Csn't decide between do not want and would hit like the first of angry god.  Need answer soonish
 
2017-09-05 09:38:10 PM  

Mister Peejay: SirEattonHogg: [img.fark.net image 480x270]

Tragically, diplomatic immunity did not save her.

Is that Christina Ricci?

This is important.  Csn't decide between do not want and would hit like the first of angry god.  Need answer soonish


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2017-09-05 09:41:06 PM  

Mister Peejay: SirEattonHogg: [img.fark.net image 480x270]

Tragically, diplomatic immunity did not save her.

Is that Christina Ricci?

This is important.  Csn't decide between do not want and would hit like the first of angry god.  Need answer soonish


Really? she was like 9 when lethal weapon 2 was made
 
2017-09-05 09:43:38 PM  

garkola: Diplomatic immunity generally only holds for diplomats and their families who are doing actual diplomatic things. It's been abused, but legally that's what it covers.
In general, a minor stabbing a classmate doesn't fall under diplomatic activity.
NYC has this issue with broad diplomatic immunity claims, and every few years they push it and the various actors get expelled from the US.


This depends on the level of the diplomat. A full ambassador (and their family) is protected regardless of what they are doing. However, lower level diplomats may only have immunity specifically for themselves (but not families), or even only have immunity that, as you state, covers official acts.

However, a country can still name someone - even an ambassador with full immunity - persona non grata and kick them out of the country.
 
2017-09-05 09:46:46 PM  
The article doesn't have much detail.  A dependent of a diplomat may have immunity, but it depends on a few factors.
 
2017-09-05 09:46:46 PM  

KingKauff: abhorrent1: [68.media.tumblr.com image 287x184]

/obscure?

There is nothing obscure about V for Vendetta.


Nope. It's from Die Hard.
 
2017-09-05 09:50:20 PM  
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2017-09-05 09:54:28 PM  
Mark my word the next threat the United States will face after radical Islam is snobby 12 year old diplomat daughters.
 
2017-09-05 09:54:41 PM  
I'm gonna go with "boy was being a prick and didn't realize the danger he was in".
 
2017-09-05 09:56:35 PM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: Mister Peejay: SirEattonHogg: [img.fark.net image 480x270]

Tragically, diplomatic immunity did not save her.

Is that Christina Ricci?

This is important.  Csn't decide between do not want and would hit like the first of angry god.  Need answer soonish

Really? she was like 9 when lethal weapon 2 was made


One doesn't fap to 9 year olds.

Well, I hope not, anyway.

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2017-09-05 10:28:57 PM  
A possibly foreign 13-year old is stabbed by a foreign 12-year-old female in a news story written by a 7 year-old, with pauses built in for "tsk tsk diplomatic immunity tsk" like Zika and UTIs don't happen to diplomats, too.  Why can't they just stay in Russia.
 
2017-09-05 10:31:31 PM  

Mister Peejay: SirEattonHogg: [img.fark.net image 480x270]

Tragically, diplomatic immunity did not save her.

Is that Christina Ricci?

This is important.  Csn't decide between do not want and would hit like the first of angry god.  Need answer soonish


OMG that Christina Ricci never looked better than she did in 1990!
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2017-09-05 10:38:53 PM  
Does anybody know what country she is from? I have 'googled' it but come up with bupkis.
 
2017-09-05 10:44:15 PM  
Let Donnie decide.  He is The Decider is he not?
 
2017-09-05 11:13:31 PM  

bratface: Does anybody know what country she is from? I have 'googled' it but come up with bupkis.


The local DC media reported it's Germany.

I went to high school with a lot of kids whose parents were diplomats. They'd always smoke up in their cars, since the cops generally wouldn't bother them as the car (with diplomatic license plates) is considered sovereign and subject to immunity.

Same for the house parties another kid would throw. The local cops couldn't enter the property so they'd hang around outside and bust non-diplomat kids who were leaving and had been drinking.
 
2017-09-05 11:25:12 PM  

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I didn't get the reference it was too obscure
 
2017-09-05 11:44:54 PM  

ameeriklane: bratface: Does anybody know what country she is from? I have 'googled' it but come up with bupkis.

The local DC media reported it's Germany.

I went to high school with a lot of kids whose parents were diplomats. They'd always smoke up in their cars, since the cops generally wouldn't bother them as the car (with diplomatic license plates) is considered sovereign and subject to immunity.

Same for the house parties another kid would throw. The local cops couldn't enter the property so they'd hang around outside and bust non-diplomat kids who were leaving and had been drinking.


OK
 
2017-09-06 01:07:21 AM  
There's a violent student who can attack and injure other students with complete impunity?  Yeah the other parents are going to have something to say about that.  She's kicked out at a minimum.
 
2017-09-06 01:48:56 AM  
That is one of the least professional news broadcasts I have ever seen. Is everybody on mind-altering substances/drinking to get through the day?
 
2017-09-06 02:06:28 AM  
"It's just been revoked."
 
2017-09-06 02:58:43 AM  
I'm happy just to be a commoner.
Never gonna be around, won't have to deal with those asshats.
Then again, "Gee that's a nice vest you're wearing, what material is it made of?"
 
2017-09-06 03:09:10 AM  

G. Tarrant: garkola: Diplomatic immunity generally only holds for diplomats and their families who are doing actual diplomatic things. It's been abused, but legally that's what it covers.
In general, a minor stabbing a classmate doesn't fall under diplomatic activity.
NYC has this issue with broad diplomatic immunity claims, and every few years they push it and the various actors get expelled from the US.

This depends on the level of the diplomat. A full ambassador (and their family) is protected regardless of what they are doing. However, lower level diplomats may only have immunity specifically for themselves (but not families), or even only have immunity that, as you state, covers official acts.

However, a country can still name someone - even an ambassador with full immunity - persona non grata and kick them out of the country.


Neither statement is correct. The Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations and the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations are the underpinning treaties.  Diplomats and their families have diplomatic immunity regardless of rank: the conventions to not differentiate immunity based on rank. The qualifying factor is if the diplomat has been recognized by the receiving state through issuance of a diplomatic visa. If so, they have diplomatic rights & privileges including immunity from persecution. Consular officials have more limited immunity and this generally applies only to performing their official duties. A diplomat may be declared persona non grata for a variety of reasons. Breaking the local law is certainly one, but when countries engage in a reciprocity spat (as the US & Russia are currently doing), the receiving state may declare named diplomats as PNG for no specific reason except to reduce the number of diplomats permitted by the sending state. Alternatively, they can simply instruct the sending state to reduce its diplomatic headcount by x personnel. In the event a diplomat breaks a local law, s/he may be prosecuted by the sending state as if the crime was committed at "home", depending on the sending state's laws. The diplomat may have been declared PNG, or the receiving state may have simply told the sending state to remove their diplomat forthwith - this is the common approach between states with good relations, rather than invoking the more formal PNG declaration.
 
2017-09-06 05:20:46 AM  
At least she didn't go off the rails like that Nigerian diplomat's son during the 1980s.
 
2017-09-06 06:25:37 AM  
I realize that most 12 year old girls are mean, so I have to wonder if there is an underlying bit of drama not being reported.  If this school is anything like my kid's, a stabbed boy may be getting some payback for prior bad acts that the school tolerated for other reasons, cough sports star cough.  I would love to see a follow up to this story, like school district gets sued by diplomat's family for not protecting daughters from religious or racial bigotry, or suit follows daughter's expulsion for defending herself from rape.  Probably, we'll hear that girl was mad at boy for texting with another girl and got stabby.
 
2017-09-06 06:53:04 AM  
Dammit. This is why God made so many English boarding schools.

You have to keep the little diplomatic feckers locked up as soon as they can toddle. If you think military brats are bad, you should see diplomatic brats. And don't get me started on clerical brats.

Celebacy of the clergy is, ironically, the one thing the Roman Catholic Church got nearly right. Personally I would have gone with castration. But hey, I am not even a Christian, so I don't get any say in Church ritual.

I think Richard Armory is right also. When he said that they sent Hamlet to England because his madness wouldn't be noticeable there, he hit the nail on the head.

Many famous people exile themselves without being told. Ever see that Mr. Bean movie where John Malkovich plays a delightfully snooty Frenchman? The answer is probably no, so I will not post any spoilers.
 
2017-09-06 06:54:42 AM  
Thorstein Vleben. READ.
 
2017-09-06 07:03:26 AM  
Diplomatic immunity does not mean impunity.

The offender can be asked to leave the host country. Depending on his own country, he may be prosecuted there, under home country laws or even host country laws. Judges do that you know. They can judge a case under any number of legal systems (at least if they are competent in other legal systems).

A Canadiian who did such a thing might expect to face justice. A Russian or Chinese citizen might return home in disgrace, which would be worse than American justice, at least if the perp was not well protected by powerful friends.

And so it goes, and so it goes.

Some over-privileged people's over-priviliged children are prone to act in the false belief that they are above the law and will be protected by the "Rich Family" or "Good Family" clause. But I don't need to tell that to a Democrat or even an Indepedent (Independent of the GOP, that is). You have horrible examples in front of your eyes every day now.
 
2017-09-06 08:01:09 AM  
Let's be sensitive of her culture!  Maybe being all stabby is how her culture expresses its distsin for a male-domi hated American culture.
 
2017-09-06 08:04:45 AM  
I understand the whole concept of diplomatic immunity, but being all stabby with each other?

I think that's universally recognized as wrong.
 
2017-09-06 08:45:56 AM  

Cdr.Murdock: I understand the whole concept of diplomatic immunity, but being all stabby with each other?

I think that's universally recognized as wrong.



I believe the original intent was the Diplomatic Immunity guaranteed you safe passage out of the country.  It doesn't mean you can stay and keep doing shiat like this.
 
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