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(Independent)   "With the impeachment and removal of President Donald Trump a long shot at best, there is another way to provide the country some protection from our unfit president: congressional government. "   ( independent.co.uk) divider line
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2017-09-05 04:45:09 PM  
If they can't get beyond concerned about 45*s various proven issues.  What makes you think they will take control of the situation?
 
2017-09-05 04:59:45 PM  
Considering congress has been even less effective at governing than Trump, we are well and truly farked
 
2017-09-05 05:00:58 PM  
Remember when Obama said he preferred to work through Congress, in respect of constitutional separation of powers, and the Right said he was a feckless lazy non-leader?
 
2017-09-05 05:12:05 PM  

dv-ous: Remember when Obama said he preferred to work through Congress, in respect of constitutional separation of powers, and the Right said he was a feckless lazy non-leader?


I still can't believe that Obama couldn't convince those Congresspeople who said their goal was to thwart Obama's agenda to work toward Obama's agenda.
 
2017-09-05 05:15:02 PM  

hillbillypharmacist: dv-ous: Remember when Obama said he preferred to work through Congress, in respect of constitutional separation of powers, and the Right said he was a feckless lazy non-leader?

I still can't believe that Obama couldn't convince those Congresspeople who said their goal was to thwart Obama's agenda to work toward Obama's agenda.


I know, right? What an empty suit.
 
2017-09-05 05:20:50 PM  
I'm no Trump superfan, but how is he unfit? Because he wasn't on the DNC ticket?

Now Hillary.. I wouldn't vote for her to be dog catcher. In Korea.
 
2017-09-05 05:22:20 PM  

Loose_Cannon: I'm no Trump superfan, but how is he unfit? Because he wasn't on the DNC ticket?

Now Hillary.. I wouldn't vote for her to be dog catcher. In Korea.


List ten ways Trump is fit and ten ways Clinton wasn't.

Caveat: they can't be lies.
 
2017-09-05 05:26:37 PM  

dv-ous: Remember when Obama said he preferred to work through Congress, in respect of constitutional separation of powers, and the Right said he was a feckless lazy non-leader?


And as it turned out, he WAS a feckless, lazy non-leader. Look at DACA - the first two letter are acronyms for DEFERRED ACTION. If he had not been so lazy, and had been a real leader, he'd have had the DNC reform immigration instead of kicking the can down the road on this issue. Instead of 800K children of immigrants are in no man's land, they would be citizens by now.
 
2017-09-05 05:27:21 PM  

dv-ous: Loose_Cannon: I'm no Trump superfan, but how is he unfit? Because he wasn't on the DNC ticket?

Now Hillary.. I wouldn't vote for her to be dog catcher. In Korea.

List ten ways Trump is fit and ten ways Clinton wasn't.

Caveat: they can't be lies.


Let's see.  Ovary one, ovary two, uterus, vagina. Do the Fallopian tubes count as one?
 
2017-09-05 05:27:57 PM  

dv-ous: Loose_Cannon: I'm no Trump superfan, but how is he unfit? Because he wasn't on the DNC ticket?

Now Hillary.. I wouldn't vote for her to be dog catcher. In Korea.

List ten ways Trump is fit and ten ways Clinton wasn't.

Caveat: they can't be lies.


Why? I didn't say he was unfit.

List 10 reason he's unfit and 10 reasons she's unfit. Same rules.

I'll go first:

Hillary kept her State Dept emails on a server in her bathroom. Doesn't sound very 'FIT' to me.
 
2017-09-05 05:29:22 PM  

ArkPanda: dv-ous: Loose_Cannon: I'm no Trump superfan, but how is he unfit? Because he wasn't on the DNC ticket?

Now Hillary.. I wouldn't vote for her to be dog catcher. In Korea.

List ten ways Trump is fit and ten ways Clinton wasn't.

Caveat: they can't be lies.

Let's see.  Ovary one, ovary two, uterus, vagina. Do the Fallopian tubes count as one?


What about breasts?  Does the pair count as one or two?
 
2017-09-05 05:31:00 PM  

ArkPanda: dv-ous: Loose_Cannon: I'm no Trump superfan, but how is he unfit? Because he wasn't on the DNC ticket?

Now Hillary.. I wouldn't vote for her to be dog catcher. In Korea.

List ten ways Trump is fit and ten ways Clinton wasn't.

Caveat: they can't be lies.

Let's see.  Ovary one, ovary two, uterus, vagina. Do the Fallopian tubes count as one?


Wait, Hillary has ovaries?
 
2017-09-05 05:50:06 PM  

Loose_Cannon: I'm no Trump superfan, but how is he unfit? Because he wasn't on the DNC ticket?

Now Hillary.. I wouldn't vote for her to be dog catcher. In Korea.


Congrats  - you got us someone worse than Hillary. Here's your cookie.
 
2017-09-05 05:51:06 PM  

Loose_Cannon: dv-ous: Loose_Cannon: I'm no Trump superfan, but how is he unfit? Because he wasn't on the DNC ticket?

Now Hillary.. I wouldn't vote for her to be dog catcher. In Korea.

List ten ways Trump is fit and ten ways Clinton wasn't.

Caveat: they can't be lies.

Why? I didn't say he was unfit.

List 10 reason he's unfit and 10 reasons she's unfit. Same rules.

I'll go first:

Hillary kept her State Dept emails on a server in her bathroom. Doesn't sound very 'FIT' to me.


LOL. "But her emails"
 
2017-09-05 06:51:20 PM  

Loose_Cannon: I'm no Trump superfan, but how is he unfit? Because he wasn't on the DNC ticket?

Now Hillary.. I wouldn't vote for her to be dog catcher. In Korea.


i.imgur.com
 
2017-09-05 07:29:41 PM  
Let me see...how is Trump unfit? Disclaimer: not all have citations, because they're common farking knowledge.

1.  He's morbidly obese
2.  He's a pathological liar
3.  He's a Malignant Narcissist
4.  He thinks it's okay to grab women by the pussy
5.  He's a serial adulterer
6.  He thinks it's okay to sexually objectify underage females
7.  He bragged about dodging the draft and compared his sexual escapades to serving in Viet Nam
8.  He doesn't understand the Nuclear Triad
9.  He doesn't believe waterboarding is torture and thinks it's okay to kill suspected terrorist's families
10. He uses the military like an extension of is penis

And that's just for starters, IMHO.
 
2017-09-05 07:49:03 PM  
The only body potentially worse than Trump is the GOP Congress. They don't have the same individual power, but there are some absolutely abhorrent human beings in there.
 
2017-09-05 07:55:15 PM  

Loose_Cannon: dv-ous: Remember when Obama said he preferred to work through Congress, in respect of constitutional separation of powers, and the Right said he was a feckless lazy non-leader?

And as it turned out, he WAS a feckless, lazy non-leader. Look at DACA - the first two letter are acronyms for DEFERRED ACTION. If he had not been so lazy, and had been a real leader, he'd have had the DNC reform immigration instead of kicking the can down the road on this issue. Instead of 800K children of immigrants are in no man's land, they would be citizens by now.


You realize that he did that specifically because Congress wouldn't act, right?
 
2017-09-05 08:02:54 PM  

raerae1980: Loose_Cannon: dv-ous: Remember when Obama said he preferred to work through Congress, in respect of constitutional separation of powers, and the Right said he was a feckless lazy non-leader?

And as it turned out, he WAS a feckless, lazy non-leader. Look at DACA - the first two letter are acronyms for DEFERRED ACTION. If he had not been so lazy, and had been a real leader, he'd have had the DNC reform immigration instead of kicking the can down the road on this issue. Instead of 800K children of immigrants are in no man's land, they would be citizens by now.

You realize that he did that specifically because Congress wouldn't act, right?


The Democrat controlled congress wouldn't act. The party he was supposed to lead wouldn't act.

Yes, lazy, feckless poor leadership. Yes, I'm aware.
 
2017-09-05 08:06:44 PM  

docpeteyJ: Let me see...how is Trump unfit? Disclaimer: not all have citations, because they're common farking knowledge.

1.  He's morbidly obese
2.  He's a pathological liar
3.  He's a Malignant Narcissist
4.  He thinks it's okay to grab women by the pussy
5.  He's a serial adulterer
6.  He thinks it's okay to sexually objectify underage females
7.  He bragged about dodging the draft and compared his sexual escapades to serving in Viet Nam
8.  He doesn't understand the Nuclear Triad
9.  He doesn't believe waterboarding is torture and thinks it's okay to kill suspected terrorist's families
10. He uses the military like an extension of is penis

And that's just for starters, IMHO.


Sorry, couldn't stop laughing...

5.  He's a serial adulterer

Stop, stop, ok, I'm laughing so hard...he's an adulterer in office? STOP! I'm laughing so hard...that's your reason to impeach? ROFL!!! A president, who cheats on his wives...OMG..stop, really..

It's like you're you prove me right with everything you write...really, I can't stop laughing.

And he won against Mrs. Clinton...oh, christ, make the humor stop...OMG!
 
2017-09-05 08:07:47 PM  

Loose_Cannon: raerae1980: Loose_Cannon: dv-ous: Remember when Obama said he preferred to work through Congress, in respect of constitutional separation of powers, and the Right said he was a feckless lazy non-leader?

And as it turned out, he WAS a feckless, lazy non-leader. Look at DACA - the first two letter are acronyms for DEFERRED ACTION. If he had not been so lazy, and had been a real leader, he'd have had the DNC reform immigration instead of kicking the can down the road on this issue. Instead of 800K children of immigrants are in no man's land, they would be citizens by now.

You realize that he did that specifically because Congress wouldn't act, right?

The Democrat controlled congress wouldn't act. The party he was supposed to lead wouldn't act.

Yes, lazy, feckless poor leadership. Yes, I'm aware.


I don't think you are aware.   Do you actually care to be corrected, or should I just leave you alone to your own ignorance?
 
2017-09-05 08:11:03 PM  
When I think decisive action, I think Mitch McConnell.

As long as the action in question is "Force interns to stay in room while blasting endless Dinty Moore Beef Stew farts."
 
2017-09-05 08:12:14 PM  
I see the troll bit hard.

Noice.
 
2017-09-05 08:13:56 PM  

Loose_Cannon: THis illustrates the ignorance of the left. HE's obese? And that's a reason to impeach him?


And here we see an illustration of why, when arguing with morons, you should always limit your points. Never give them a list, for example, of ten items. That gives them ten chances to find a weak link, and then they can safely ignore all the strong points, and instead attack the otherwise irrelevant ones.
 
2017-09-05 08:19:04 PM  
*scans thread*

img.fark.net
 
2017-09-05 08:19:43 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-09-05 08:24:30 PM  
Still amazed at how worked up this dude is getting over a simple post.  Huh.
 
2017-09-05 08:28:16 PM  
*yawns*
 
2017-09-05 08:45:25 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-09-05 08:48:49 PM  

Loose_Cannon: I'm no Trump superfan, but how is he unfit? Because he wasn't on the DNC ticket?

Now Hillary.. I wouldn't vote for her to be dog catcher. In Korea.


I think it's the sexual assaults racism fawning over Putin general goofery lack of political skill lack of any recognizable leadership poor cabinet choices childlike behavior stoking nuclear war with NK inability to get anything comprehensive done and a singular obsession with overturning Obama era policy no matter who he harms?

Maybe?  Mayhap?
 
2017-09-05 08:50:59 PM  
This is not comforting. Not even a little.
 
2017-09-05 08:51:19 PM  

Loose_Cannon: I'm no Trump superfan, but how is he unfit? Because he wasn't on the DNC ticket?

Now Hillary.. I wouldn't vote for her to be dog catcher. In Korea.


Might not be a lot of dogs running around, especially in Best Korea.
 
2017-09-05 08:51:43 PM  

BizarreMan: If they can't get beyond concerned about 45*s various proven issues.  What makes you think they will take control of the situation?


Done in one.
 
2017-09-05 08:53:10 PM  

dv-ous: Loose_Cannon: I'm no Trump superfan, but how is he unfit? Because he wasn't on the DNC ticket?

Now Hillary.. I wouldn't vote for her to be dog catcher. In Korea.

List ten ways Trump is fit and ten ways Clinton wasn't.

Caveat: they can't be lies.


#1) Emails
 
2017-09-05 08:53:51 PM  

Loose_Cannon: dv-ous: Loose_Cannon: I'm no Trump superfan, but how is he unfit? Because he wasn't on the DNC ticket?

Now Hillary.. I wouldn't vote for her to be dog catcher. In Korea.

List ten ways Trump is fit and ten ways Clinton wasn't.

Caveat: they can't be lies.

Why? I didn't say he was unfit.

List 10 reason he's unfit and 10 reasons she's unfit. Same rules.

I'll go first:

Hillary kept her State Dept emails on a server in her bathroom. Doesn't sound very 'FIT' to me.


If we're playing this one seriously...

1. Trump frequently allows unsecure cell phones around what should be secure meetings
2. internet access at his resorts, like Mar-a-Lago is unsecured and easily hackable
3. Trump servers have already been hacked more than once in the past several years
4.  The mysterious Trump server communicating with a Russian bank

Then, moving on from the cyber...

5. Trump revealing an undercover agent in ISIS to the Russians inside the Oval office
6. Trump publicly confirmed he did so, thus publicly compromising the Israeli agent
7. Put Michael Flynn, whom he was warned was a security risk, as his National Security Advisor
8. Gave Jared Kushner, who owes hundreds of millions and is actively shopping for foreign investors to pay that debt, a security clearance
9. Jared Kushner (and Michael Flynn) asked the Russian ambassador if they would setup a secret, secure line so he and Trump could communicate with Moscow without the U.S. government knowing
10. Donald Trump wrote a statement lying about the meeting his son, campaign manager, and son-in-law attended, in secret, with Russian agents.  Other appointees, like Sessions, also lied about meetings with Russians.

And that's just off the top of my head, and not getting into policies he's been in favor of.
 
2017-09-05 08:55:54 PM  
I guess the Scary already evacuated.
 
2017-09-05 08:56:36 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-09-05 09:03:33 PM  
11. He's a shiatbag racist who emboldens racists to come out of under their metaphorical rocks. Then equivocates the ratcheted-up situations claiming blame lies "on many sides."
12. Obviously so under Putin's influence it's amazing we haven't put a hammer and sickle across the stars & stripes yet.
13. Ending DACA. Like the shiatbag racist he is.
14. So desperate to end Obamacare he and the cartoonish supervillain GOP will work to sabotage it, thus putting millions at risk of no health coverage.
15. "Build a Wall and Mexico will pay for it." That's dumb even for him.
16. Not pledging to uphold the agreements of NATO (See #12)
17. Muslim Travel ban. Like the shiatbag racist he is.
18. Removing America from the Paris Climate Accords. I mean, it's not like there won't be more Houston-like catastrophes in the future.
19. "Covfefe." farking idiot.
20. Appointees to major departments that are not just grossly unqualified, they will actively seek to counter their respective department's influence (e.g. EPA).
21. "Tax reform." When a Republican says that the temperature immediately drops 10 degrees in that room. Strap in while we middle and lower class citizens will soon have to pay the bills of our nation's wealthy "elite."
 
2017-09-05 09:10:03 PM  

BizarreMan: ArkPanda: dv-ous: Loose_Cannon: I'm no Trump superfan, but how is he unfit? Because he wasn't on the DNC ticket?

Now Hillary.. I wouldn't vote for her to be dog catcher. In Korea.

List ten ways Trump is fit and ten ways Clinton wasn't.

Caveat: they can't be lies.

Let's see.  Ovary one, ovary two, uterus, vagina. Do the Fallopian tubes count as one?

What about breasts?  Does the pair count as one or two?


Two, but Trump has them as well, so they're a wash for determining who's fit to be president.
 
2017-09-05 09:11:05 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-09-05 09:14:11 PM  
Somebody is suggesting Congress would be better than Trump at running things? Congress being inept is why America got to the point of electing Trump. As inept as people portray Trump, this writer is hands down worse.
 
2017-09-05 09:16:01 PM  

Loose_Cannon: I'm no Trump superfan, but how is he unfit? Because he wasn't on the DNC ticket?

Now Hillary.. I wouldn't vote for her to be dog catcher. In Korea.


Well he has no experience, no idea what the job entails, made promises, none of which he's kept, has ongoing investigations going regarding Russia and his white supremacy  ties, oh and he's a sociopath. That's the abbreviated version.
 
2017-09-05 09:21:07 PM  
 Whatever legislation the Congress can manage to pass will be signed by the Donald.
Congress isn't going to do squat.
 
2017-09-05 09:21:07 PM  

Loose_Cannon: I'm no Trump superfan, but how is he unfit? Because he wasn't on the DNC ticket?

Now Hillary.. I wouldn't vote for her to be dog catcher. In Korea.


To start with, he's never held an elected office before.  It's like letting ME remove your kids appendix.
 
2017-09-05 09:21:56 PM  

docpeteyJ: Still amazed at how worked up this dude is getting over a simple post.  Huh.


Donald orange. Everyone forgot that in this thread.
 
2017-09-05 09:22:32 PM  
Actually, I'm somewhat relieved that the impeachment talk has died down recently, because I don't want President Pence to restore a degree of normalcy to Washington and the GOP. I want Trump to drag the GOP down into the mud with him. I want him to utterly wreck their brand and tarnish their image so badly that the Democrats retake government in 2020.
 
2017-09-05 09:25:01 PM  
.....oh and name 10 reasons why Hillary would have been unfit for President.
 
2017-09-05 09:26:15 PM  

Loose_Cannon: I'm no Trump superfan, but how is he unfit? Because he wasn't on the DNC ticket?

Now Hillary.. I wouldn't vote for her to be dog catcher. In Korea.


Have you ever heard the saying "If you can't point out the idiot in the room, it's probably you." If you can't figure out from his speech pattern that he's not the brightest bulb available, maybe you should just get rid of the keyboard.
 
2017-09-05 09:26:27 PM  

raerae1980: Loose_Cannon: dv-ous: Remember when Obama said he preferred to work through Congress, in respect of constitutional separation of powers, and the Right said he was a feckless lazy non-leader?

And as it turned out, he WAS a feckless, lazy non-leader. Look at DACA - the first two letter are acronyms for DEFERRED ACTION. If he had not been so lazy, and had been a real leader, he'd have had the DNC reform immigration instead of kicking the can down the road on this issue. Instead of 800K children of immigrants are in no man's land, they would be citizens by now.

You realize that he did that specifically because Congress wouldn't act, right?


So if Congress doesn't repeal the ACA, should Trump act via an Executive Order?
 
2017-09-05 09:31:37 PM  
The President is very much a figurehead - he wields no real power whatsoever. He is apparently chosen by the government, but the qualities he is required to display are not those of leadership but those of finely judged outrage. For this reason the President is always a controversial choice, always an infuriating but fascinating character. His job is not to wield power but to draw attention away from it.

/hopefully not obscure
 
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