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(The Raw Story)   Last year the Obama administration made new rules that would have made chemical plant disasters like the one in Houston less likely and easier to handle. Guess which company and which Congressional delegation convinced Trump to kill them?   ( rawstory.com) divider line
    More: Obvious, Texas Republicans, International Business Times, Members of the United States House of Representatives from Texas, plant owner Arkema, Phil Gramm, Trump administration, Texas, new safety rules  
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2017-09-01 11:11:43 AM  
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Well.....that sucks for you guys.
 
2017-09-01 11:18:27 AM  
One has to wonder how many fertilizer and chemical plant explosions a state can take before they're done stigginit.
 
2017-09-01 11:20:27 AM  
Nothing matters.
 
2017-09-01 11:38:46 AM  
B-but REGULATIONS KILL THE FREE MARKET.
 
2017-09-01 11:55:10 AM  
But c'mon, I thought you tough as nails Texans loved the unregulated free market.
 
2017-09-01 12:08:28 PM  

whidbey: B-but REGULATIONS KILL THE FREE MARKET.


Horrible banking regulations prevented the sub-prime mortgage crisis in Canada.
 
2017-09-01 12:10:21 PM  

whidbey: B-but REGULATIONS KILL THE FREE MARKET.


You'd think that would be preferable to killing your citizenry.

You'd think.
 
2017-09-01 12:47:07 PM  

mrshowrules: whidbey: B-but REGULATIONS KILL THE FREE MARKET.

Horrible banking regulations prevented the sub-prime mortgage crisis in Canada.


Yeah, but we also got the side-effect of being sane, selfless, caring and respected on the world stage.
 
2017-09-01 12:50:18 PM  
This is my shocked face -.-
 
2017-09-01 01:00:43 PM  
The Chemical Brothers?
 
2017-09-01 01:07:54 PM  
surely, subby, you meant:

... Obama administration made new bad, job-killing rules ...
 
2017-09-01 01:09:40 PM  
Paying for one-time catastrophes is almost always economically more feasible than preventing the disaster in the first place.

While a stitch in time saves nine, if you are ignoring 100 stitches, and only ever have to restitch 4, you still come out ahead.

There is literally no way short of government regulation to make that change, save for judges changing the economic calculus by massively upping the penalties in civil court (which will never, ever happen).
 
2017-09-01 01:19:54 PM  
We must resist our unhealthy romance with chemicals. Be inspired by the true lives of the fabulous killjoys attempting to avoid dangerous days, world contamination, even the production of conventional weapons. We should all march in a black parade of protest! And if the corporate police state puts you down, may death never stop you - three cheers for sweet revenge!!!
 
2017-09-01 01:34:10 PM  

cranked: We must resist our unhealthy romance with chemicals. Be inspired by the true lives of the fabulous killjoys attempting to avoid dangerous days, world contamination, even the production of conventional weapons. We should all march in a black parade of protest! And if the corporate police state puts you down, may death never stop you - three cheers for sweet revenge!!!


So you're saying a doom patrol could have saved us?  I don't know. I'm a hesitant alien in all of this.
 
2017-09-01 01:36:55 PM  
Good.  I hope their insurance lapsed, was non-existent, or denies their claim.  I hope it bankrupts the owners and everyone involved and they live with the stigma of utter failure for the rest of their lives. I hope somehow they get thrown in jail too. That's the consequence of idiocy.
 
2017-09-01 01:56:07 PM  

serpent_sky: cranked: We must resist our unhealthy romance with chemicals. Be inspired by the true lives of the fabulous killjoys attempting to avoid dangerous days, world contamination, even the production of conventional weapons. We should all march in a black parade of protest! And if the corporate police state puts you down, may death never stop you - three cheers for sweet revenge!!!

So you're saying a doom patrol could have saved us?  I don't know. I'm a hesitant alien in all of this.


You kids from yesterday... stick your fingers in your ears and say 'na na na na na na na na na', pretend the vampires will never hurt you. I'm not ok (I promise), and the only hope for me is you realizing that honey, this mirror isn't big enough for the two of us. I'm not under pressure enough to kiss the ring, but the world is ugly, so I'll leave with these famous last words: I'll never surrender the night to the ghost of you.
 
2017-09-01 01:59:39 PM  

Diogenes: whidbey: B-but REGULATIONS KILL THE FREE MARKET.

You'd think that would be preferable to killing your citizenry.

You'd think.


But it's mostly the undesirables whose lives are being destroyed...so no biggie. They're used to crappy lives by now. (They lived in Texas after all.)
 
2017-09-01 02:05:26 PM  

cranked: serpent_sky: cranked: We must resist our unhealthy romance with chemicals. Be inspired by the true lives of the fabulous killjoys attempting to avoid dangerous days, world contamination, even the production of conventional weapons. We should all march in a black parade of protest! And if the corporate police state puts you down, may death never stop you - three cheers for sweet revenge!!!

So you're saying a doom patrol could have saved us?  I don't know. I'm a hesitant alien in all of this.

You kids from yesterday... stick your fingers in your ears and say 'na na na na na na na na na', pretend the vampires will never hurt you. I'm not ok (I promise), and the only hope for me is you realizing that honey, this mirror isn't big enough for the two of us. I'm not under pressure enough to kiss the ring, but the world is ugly, so I'll leave with these famous last words: I'll never surrender the night to the ghost of you.


Like you wouldn't if vampire money was involved? Helena would! There are a lot of teenagers on desolation row, especially the kids from yesterday. As long as you have a bulletproof heart, you'll never be on cemetery drive, though. Heaven help us, i can easily be headfirst for halos,especially in this house of wolves. I'm not that kind of a girl, so goodnight, dr. death.
 
2017-09-01 02:09:08 PM  

serpent_sky: I'm not that kind of a girl, so goodnight, dr. death.


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2017-09-01 02:41:19 PM  

GooberMcFly: mrshowrules: whidbey: B-but REGULATIONS KILL THE FREE MARKET.

Horrible banking regulations prevented the sub-prime mortgage crisis in Canada.

Yeah, but we also got the side-effect of being sane, selfless, caring and respected on the world stage.


Sure, rub it in, jerk.
 
2017-09-01 02:44:55 PM  
FTA: "Arkema directly objected to the new proposed rules and said they "will likely add significant new costs and burdens to the corporate audit process."

Oh noes!! Do NOT burden the audit process!!
 
GBB
2017-09-01 02:46:17 PM  

Jake Havechek: But c'mon, I thought you tough as nails Texans loved the unregulated free market.


The entire reason Houston flooded easily is because they lack common sense zoning laws.

Small minds, small government.
 
2017-09-01 02:46:54 PM  
My friend worked in a chemical plant. Through EPA regs they were forced to stop pouring caustic chemicals in to the nearby major water way. He's convinced that companies would simply stop dumping chemicals of their own volition. He's also a libertarian (who happens to vote straight ticket R)
 
2017-09-01 02:47:19 PM  
I bet it was Bernie Sanders and the Sierra Club that killed this legislation.
 
GBB
2017-09-01 02:49:14 PM  

serpent_sky: cranked: We must resist our unhealthy romance with chemicals. Be inspired by the true lives of the fabulous killjoys attempting to avoid dangerous days, world contamination, even the production of conventional weapons. We should all march in a black parade of protest! And if the corporate police state puts you down, may death never stop you - three cheers for sweet revenge!!!

So you're saying a doom patrol could have saved us?  I don't know. I'm a hesitant alien in all of this.


When I was
a young boy
my father
took me into the city
 
2017-09-01 02:49:24 PM  
Telling somebody to guess is not a question.

Can you guess why?  Go on, guess why.
 
2017-09-01 02:50:09 PM  

GBB: Jake Havechek: But c'mon, I thought you tough as nails Texans loved the unregulated free market.

The entire reason Houston flooded easily is because they lack common sense zoning laws.

Small minds, small government.


No. Parts of Houston flooded because it got almost a years worth of rain in a single storm.
 
2017-09-01 02:50:48 PM  
I have a strange desire to go bang an emo woman. Is that still a thing or do I need to find a goth and ask her to cry first?
 
2017-09-01 02:50:56 PM  
Am I supposed to feel bad that they are killing themselves?

Because I don't.
 
2017-09-01 02:51:54 PM  
The more if this I see..... The more I want to see a whole ton if fine print on that aid bill.
 
2017-09-01 02:53:19 PM  
Pence's photo op was so superior to Trump's we should just send him again this weekend.

He lifted branches, hugged people and rocked some crisp ass jeans.
 
2017-09-01 02:55:24 PM  

koder: Good.  I hope their insurance lapsed, was non-existent, or denies their claim.  I hope it bankrupts the owners and everyone involved and they live with the stigma of utter failure for the rest of their lives. I hope somehow they get thrown in jail too. That's the consequence of idiocy.


I know that If I were a plaintiff's lawyer representing anyone who gets sick or god forbid killed by the "noxious cloud" this plant releases, the minute their try their "commitment to safety" and "followed all the regulations" defense, I would LIGHT into them about how much they contributed , how hard they lobbied etc to kill these rules....and I think a jury would JUMP at the chance to award punitive damages
 
2017-09-01 02:55:32 PM  

GBB: Jake Havechek: But c'mon, I thought you tough as nails Texans loved the unregulated free market.

The entire reason Houston flooded easily is because they lack common sense zoning laws.

Small minds, small government.


Deed and covenant restrictions in Houston perform the same function as zoning laws.


Also, Houston is flat.
 
d3
2017-09-01 02:55:59 PM  
Just need to convince conservatives that environmental contamination causes people to turn gay or their skin to get darker.
 
2017-09-01 02:57:14 PM  

Diogenes: whidbey: B-but REGULATIONS KILL THE FREE MARKET.

You'd think that would be preferable to killing your citizenry.

You'd think.


Depends if the non white citizens get killed more.
 
2017-09-01 02:57:38 PM  

Diogenes: whidbey: B-but REGULATIONS KILL THE FREE MARKET.

You'd think that would be preferable to killing your citizenry.

You'd think.


Yeah, but just the ones who don't donate to campaigns.
 
2017-09-01 02:57:50 PM  
Look, we don't need burdensome regulations which slow down industry and cost jobs just to protect us from very rare occurrences like Hurricane Harvey.  There's a reason they call this a Thousand Year Storm, it's because storms of magnitudes like Harvey, Sandy, and Katrina only ever occur once every one thousand years... What's that you say, happening every five to seven years, well...
 
2017-09-01 02:58:01 PM  
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They're afraid someone might blow it up I guess.
 
2017-09-01 02:58:54 PM  
I'm very quickly going from "those poor Houstonians" back to my native "Tuck Fexas" mindset.
 
2017-09-01 02:59:11 PM  
Say what you want about Rep. Gene Greene, he's a dancing machine.
 
2017-09-01 02:59:47 PM  
As "Chemical Plant Disasters" go I'll take the one in Houston. WAY worse things could have happened if Harvey had hit Galveston as hard as it did Corpus Christi.
 
2017-09-01 03:01:17 PM  
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 Hoist on their own petard. Almost literally!
 
2017-09-01 03:01:34 PM  

mrshowrules: whidbey: B-but REGULATIONS KILL THE FREE MARKET.

Horrible banking regulations prevented the sub-prime mortgage crisis in Canada.


My grandmother entirely forgot about the Savings and Loan crisis in the eighties. She thought her local bank went out of buisiness due to "regulations".

It's farking hilarious when you have to teach your elders history.
 
2017-09-01 03:03:27 PM  

HydroMonkey: My friend worked in a chemical plant. Through EPA regs they were forced to stop pouring caustic chemicals in to the nearby major water way. He's convinced that companies would simply stop dumping chemicals of their own volition.


Does he have an explanation for ignoring what is happening at his plant?

/Tell him to drink the water.
 
2017-09-01 03:03:32 PM  

whidbey: B-but REGULATIONS KILL THE FREE MARKET.


We don't have a free market. It's not a free market unless all parties are honest about products/services.
 
2017-09-01 03:05:46 PM  
This is what the voters of Texas want. They voted for Trump, and all their GOP politicians - and the lone Democrat who also contributed. But this is a GOP dominated legislature, and the war on sensible regulation is a decidedly Republican thing today.

So the voters of Texas want this. They want more explosions in their neighborhoods, they want more poisons in their air, more birth defects, more deaths. This is what they want for themselves. They keep voting for it. Over, and over, and over.

They can prove me wrong in the next election, but we all know they'll prove me right.

We must govern our society in spite of these people, not with them.
 
2017-09-01 03:07:34 PM  

Diogenes: whidbey: B-but REGULATIONS KILL THE FREE MARKET.

You'd think that would be preferable to killing your citizenry.

You'd think.


Free market means cheaper is always preferable to safer. Always.
 
2017-09-01 03:09:42 PM  

HydroMonkey: My friend worked in a chemical plant. Through EPA regs they were forced to stop pouring caustic chemicals in to the nearby major water way. He's convinced that companies would simply stop dumping chemicals of their own volition. He's also a libertarian (who happens to vote straight ticket R)


Did you ask him why the company he worked for didn't "stop dumping chemicals of their own volition" before the EPA stepped in? Or why his company was dumping chemicals into the waterway at all?
 
2017-09-01 03:10:12 PM  

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They're afraid someone might blow it up I guess.


they can't stand the competition
 
2017-09-01 03:10:22 PM  

STDMan69: I have a strange desire to go bang an emo woman. Is that still a thing or do I need to find a goth and ask her to cry first?


I've always been more punk than emo, but damn, the music in the early 2000s that fell under the emo category was good. I'm not sure it's still a thing, though - I'm not even liking stuff from bands I listened to back then (Frank Iero's solo stuff a huge exception).
 
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