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(Politicus USA)   Mike Coffman has announced that he will attempt to force a vote on a bill that would protect the hundreds of thousands of people who came to the United States as undocumented minors. Coffman is a Republican   ( politicususa.com) divider line
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2017-08-31 11:10:01 PM  
He's arguably the most vulnerable R in the House GOP caucus, so it's not completely altruistic. That being said, he's done really good work for vets with bad conduct discharges who are found to have PTSD. He should be commended for that alone, along w/the DACA issue. Coffman is ok in my book, even though I still wouldn't vote for him (assuming his opponent was sane, and right on war & taxes).
 
2017-08-31 11:19:37 PM  
He's my Rep, and I remember not so long ago looking up his voting record and seeing it was 100% the opposite of anything I would have wanted. Then he held the meeting in Elbert County where he all but accused Obama of not being an American. I wrote him off. But lately.... he's been a lot less crazy. I don't believe him for a second, but it's nice to hear him singing a different tune.

/Still not voting for him
 
2017-08-31 11:31:02 PM  
 Hell yes he's vulnerable. I'm voting his ass out of office the instant he runs again.  But good for this bill.  It won't save him from my voting for his opponent but the bill is it good thing to do.
 
2017-09-01 01:20:33 AM  
Blind squirrels apparently do find nuts on occasion.
 
2017-09-01 02:00:09 AM  
Republicans are caught in their usual immigration trap.

You mean the one between Republicans who love cheap labor and Republicans who hate brown people?
 
2017-09-01 02:06:59 AM  
He's got 206 votes, if he pulls every Democrat, so he needs at least 12 more Republicans. Since he likely can't count on every Democratic vote, he'll need a few more as a buffer. With all the infighting and subsequent gridlock that's going on with his party, it'll be interesting to see if he's able to make any headway.

Miss5280: Hell yes he's vulnerable. I'm voting his ass out of office the instant he runs again.  But good for this bill.  It won't save him from my voting for his opponent but the bill is it good thing to do.


Do you mean primary him or vote for whomever the Democrat turns out to be? I ask, because that seat has been Republican since it was established three decades ago. There was a lot of talk during this election about how the election might be in jeopardy as he tried to maintain his Republican identity while also refusing to support Dolt 45. He ended up with a decisive win, 41% to 52%, going against a woman who had represented the heart of his district in both the state's House and Senate. Do you think the Democrats will be able to field a stronger contender in the next election?

Of course, there's always the hope that backlash against Trump reverberates throughout the 2018 elections. Even if Coffman has distanced himself from Trump, he may still carry the stain. On the other hand, a bill like this which is essentially him shoving his middle finger in Trump's face*, whether it passes or not, may serve to keep him out of the stink.

*see also the Senate Republicans backing two bipartisan bills that are intended to protect Mueller

/as much as many Democratic or otherwise left-leaning Farkers take issue with Cory Booker, the bill he put forward with Graham, Blumenthal, and Whitehouse (can we elect him President? I just want to have a President Whitehouse, it would be the greatest example of nominative determinism in this country's history).

...um, where was I? Right, the bill Booker and the other three put forward is the better of the two. Coons' and Tillis' bill allows Mueller to go before a panel of three federal judges and challenge his dismissal, but only after being fired.

The other one states that whomever in the Justice Department is tasked with firing Mueller (or any other special council going forward) must first appear before that three-judge panel to explain their justification. The termination can only proceed "after the court has issued an order finding misconduct, dereliction of duty, incapacity, conflict of interest, or other good cause, including violation of policies of the Department of Justice."
 
2017-09-01 02:07:48 AM  
(1/3): I have introduced the #BRIDGEAct in Congress to protect #DACA recipients

If only he had found a way to work "Patriot," "Freedom," and/or "9/11" into its name, it might have had a chance.

(3/3): #DACA participants grew up here, went to school here, and should be allowed to stay here.

That sounds like a humane, factual, coherent, sympathetic, honest, logical, agreeable, and perfectly reasonable thing to argue.  For that you shall be kicked out of office, burned in effigy, and, who knows, maybe even receive a death threat or two for such carelessly foolish behavior.  Probably from self-labeled Christians, too.
 
2017-09-01 02:33:33 AM  

Miss5280: Hell yes he's vulnerable. I'm voting his ass out of office the instant he runs again.


I didn't vote for him last time, and I won't vote for him next time. I wonder of Morgan Carroll will run against him again?
 
2017-09-01 06:40:59 AM  
Why the hero tag?  Because an R maybe actually showing some intelligence and empathy?  Fark that noise.
 
2017-09-01 07:59:00 AM  

SpaceyCat: Why the hero tag?  Because an R maybe actually showing some intelligence and empathy?  Fark that noise.


Yeah, second th
 
2017-09-01 08:00:24 AM  

SpaceyCat: Why the hero tag?  Because an R maybe actually showing some intelligence and empathy?  Fark that noise.


Right? Has the bar for Republican heroics become "not a complete and utter ass at this time?"
 
2017-09-01 08:02:04 AM  

RunsLikeRiver: SpaceyCat: Why the hero tag?  Because an R maybe actually showing some intelligence and empathy?  Fark that noise.

Yeah, second th


And former-job-pseudo-stolen-laptop keyboard is failing in new and exciting ways . . .

What I meant to say was, yeah, hero tag for acting like a human for a change?  I mean I welcome this "brave new" republican party, but they are about 40 years late.
 
2017-09-01 08:02:50 AM  
I feel a poem coming on...
2.bp.blogspot.com

Trump wants to take every illegal immigrant child

and release them back into the wild

.

It's the Christian thing to do

And, Trump can site the Bible, too

.

It takes a genius like Trump to see

that Christ did not say, "Suffer the children unto me"

.

He knows that, instead,

"Suffer, little children" is what he said...

.

Burma Shave

 
2017-09-01 08:03:32 AM  
*cite

How embarrassing!
 
2017-09-01 08:04:29 AM  
I'm shocked that any House member is attempting to do something constructive.  They all seem batshiat insane in that wing.
 
2017-09-01 08:08:51 AM  

RunsLikeRiver: SpaceyCat: Why the hero tag?  Because an R maybe actually showing some intelligence and empathy?  Fark that noise.

Yeah, second th


Does Candlejack have a new gig or som
 
2017-09-01 08:09:37 AM  
Mike Coffman has announced that he will attempt to force a vote on a bill that would protect the hundreds of thousands of people who came to the United States as undocumented minors. Coffman is a Republican

Ah, so then ....

Term ends
January 3, 2019


Yep. He's up for Re-election in 2018. You can safely ignore this as shoring up his 'totally not a racist/nationalist' claims.
 
2017-09-01 08:12:39 AM  

Miss5280: Hell yes he's vulnerable. I'm voting his ass out of office the instant he runs again.  But good for this bill.  It won't save him from my voting for his opponent but the bill is it good thing to do.


This bill is meant to play to people on the fence, not meant to actually pass. He wants to be able to say "I tried" to the moderates while showing off his voting record full of shiat to the base. He knows damn well it won't pass.

In short:
media.daykeeperjournal.com
 
2017-09-01 08:14:55 AM  
Hey, my congressman actually might do something good. Probably not enough to justify his continued presence in office, though.
 
2017-09-01 08:16:42 AM  

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: RunsLikeRiver: SpaceyCat: Why the hero tag?  Because an R maybe actually showing some intelligence and empathy?  Fark that noise.

Yeah, second th

Does Candlejack have a new gig or som


My god, I haven't heard that i
 
2017-09-01 08:18:20 AM  
IN NAME ONLY!!!
 
2017-09-01 08:21:51 AM  
He's crazy, but the rest of the GOP has moved the line so far over occasionally he talks like a sane person.
 
2017-09-01 08:47:49 AM  

timujin: He's got 206 votes, if he pulls every Democrat, so he needs at least 12 more Republicans. Since he likely can't count on every Democratic vote, he'll need a few more as a buffer. With all the infighting and subsequent gridlock that's going on with his party, it'll be interesting to see if he's able to make any headway.

Miss5280: Hell yes he's vulnerable. I'm voting his ass out of office the instant he runs again.  But good for this bill.  It won't save him from my voting for his opponent but the bill is it good thing to do.

Do you mean primary him or vote for whomever the Democrat turns out to be? I ask, because that seat has been Republican since it was established three decades ago. There was a lot of talk during this election about how the election might be in jeopardy as he tried to maintain his Republican identity while also refusing to support Dolt 45. He ended up with a decisive win, 41% to 52%, going against a woman who had represented the heart of his district in both the state's House and Senate. Do you think the Democrats will be able to field a stronger contender in the next election?

Of course, there's always the hope that backlash against Trump reverberates throughout the 2018 elections. Even if Coffman has distanced himself from Trump, he may still carry the stain. On the other hand, a bill like this which is essentially him shoving his middle finger in Trump's face*, whether it passes or not, may serve to keep him out of the stink.

*see also the Senate Republicans backing two bipartisan bills that are intended to protect Mueller

/as much as many Democratic or otherwise left-leaning Farkers take issue with Cory Booker, the bill he put forward with Graham, Blumenthal, and Whitehouse (can we elect him President? I just want to have a President Whitehouse, it would be the greatest example of nominative determinism in this country's history).

...um, where was I? Right, the bill Booker and the other three put forward is the better of the two. Coons' and Tillis' bill allows Mueller to go before a panel of three federal judges and challenge his dismissal, but only after being fired.

The other one states that whomever in the Justice Department is tasked with firing Mueller (or any other special council going forward) must first appear before that three-judge panel to explain their justification. The termination can only proceed "after the court has issued an order finding misconduct, dereliction of duty, incapacity, conflict of interest, or other good cause, including violation of policies of the Department of Justice."


The RAC act went further than the Bridge Act, giving Dreamers a pathway to citizenship. It was introduced in the House earlier this year with 10 Republicans already signed on to it.
 
2017-09-01 08:49:58 AM  

Pichu0102: Miss5280: Hell yes he's vulnerable. I'm voting his ass out of office the instant he runs again.  But good for this bill.  It won't save him from my voting for his opponent but the bill is it good thing to do.

This bill is meant to play to people on the fence, not meant to actually pass. He wants to be able to say "I tried" to the moderates while showing off his voting record full of shiat to the base. He knows damn well it won't pass.

In short:
[media.daykeeperjournal.com image 400x264]


Well, I'm interested to see what Weatherkiss has to say about this
 
2017-09-01 09:05:25 AM  

DarwiOdrade: SpaceyCat: Why the hero tag?  Because an R maybe actually showing some intelligence and empathy?  Fark that noise.

Right? Has the bar for Republican heroics become "not a complete and utter ass at this time?"


Is this a trick question?
 
2017-09-01 09:10:07 AM  

Epoch_Zero: Mike Coffman has announced that he will attempt to force a vote on a bill that would protect the hundreds of thousands of people who came to the United States as undocumented minors. Coffman is a Republican

Ah, so then ....

Term ends
January 3, 2019


Yep. He's up for Re-election in 2018. You can safely ignore this as shoring up his 'totally not a racist/nationalist' claims.


All house members are up for reelection in 2018. That's how the house works.
 
2017-09-01 09:20:42 AM  

timujin: Of course, there's always the hope that backlash against Trump reverberates throughout the 2018 elections. Even if Coffman has distanced himself from Trump, he may still carry the stain. On the other hand, a bill like this which is essentially him shoving his middle finger in Trump's face*, whether it passes or not, may serve to keep him out of the stink.


I wouldn't count on that. Very very few people are involved enough with politics to know which specific bills their rep voted for, particularly ones that don't end up getting passed, and most of those who are are unlikely to be swayed by a single vote against a larger history.

See also: Democrats in vulnerable dostricts who tried to tack Right after 2010. They all got rum out on their asses.

2018 is going to be all about turnout, which is going to be driven hard on both sides, one way or another, by Trump's actions in the next 12 months.
 
2017-09-01 09:23:04 AM  

Target Builder: See also: Democrats in vulnerable dostricts who tried to tack Right after 2010. They all got rum out on their asses.


Run. Run. Not rum.

/unfortunate typo
 
2017-09-01 09:27:07 AM  
The biggest problem with DACA is that it purports to give legal status to people who are not here legally.  The theory of it being prosecutorial discretion is nonsense - declining to prosecute someone does not make their illegal action become legal.

Whether you agree that DREAMers should be allowed to stay in the country or not is immaterial - DACA is an illegal affront to the rule of law.

This bill would be a refreshing change from that - it would, if passed by congress and signed by the President (or passed over his veto) actually give LEGAL status because it would, well, be an actual law.
 
2017-09-01 09:33:05 AM  

Miss5280: Hell yes he's vulnerable. I'm voting his ass out of office the instant he runs again. But good for this bill. It won't save him from my voting for his opponent but the bill is it good thing to do.


It might even be enough that after he's voted out, you'd oppose having him tarred and feathered.
 
2017-09-01 09:36:45 AM  
mesmer242:All house members are up for reelection in 2018. That's how the house works.

Not if they do not seek re-election....which is not a given.
 
2017-09-01 09:37:00 AM  
Better than humiliating D2S, DACA'ers would be protected.
 
2017-09-01 09:38:47 AM  

IDisposable: The biggest problem with DACA is that it purports to give legal status to people who are not here legally.  The theory of it being prosecutorial discretion is nonsense - declining to prosecute someone does not make their illegal action become legal.


Check your GED in law against the SCOTUS. It is NOT illegal to be in the U.S. without documentation.
 
2017-09-01 09:42:16 AM  

Target Builder: timujin: Of course, there's always the hope that backlash against Trump reverberates throughout the 2018 elections. Even if Coffman has distanced himself from Trump, he may still carry the stain. On the other hand, a bill like this which is essentially him shoving his middle finger in Trump's face*, whether it passes or not, may serve to keep him out of the stink.

I wouldn't count on that. Very very few people are involved enough with politics to know which specific bills their rep voted for, particularly ones that don't end up getting passed, and most of those who are are unlikely to be swayed by a single vote against a larger history.

See also: Democrats in vulnerable dostricts who tried to tack Right after 2010. They all got rum out on their asses.

2018 is going to be all about turnout, which is going to be driven hard on both sides, one way or another, by Trump's actions in the next 12 months.


I can hear the ad already: When President Trump tried to kick DACA kids out of the country, many felt it was the action of a bully. Well Mike Coffman doesn't take to bullies, so he stepped in and created the BRIDGEAct to made sure these people had the protection and opportunities they deserved. Today they're giving back to the country that gave so much to them (shots of "BRIDGEAct beneficiaries" (actually actors) doing Important Stuff. Examples: Someone in a lab coat looking up from a microscope, obviously a scientist or doctor. A Benneton ad's worth of rosy-cheeked, fresh-faced college-age kids walking across a campus. A professional and a colleague standing over an office desk. There's a monitor facing away from the camera and the two of them are pointing at it as they converse) Vote for Mike Coffman, he's got your back.

/or some such nonsense
 
2017-09-01 09:55:34 AM  

timujin: He's got 206 votes, if he pulls every Democrat, so he needs at least 12 more Republicans. Since he likely can't count on every Democratic vote, he'll need a few more as a buffer. With all the infighting and subsequent gridlock that's going on with his party, it'll be interesting to see if he's able to make any headway.


Hastert Rule. Without majority GOP support -- and that is probably unlikely -- the bill doesn't even make it onto the calendar.
 
2017-09-01 09:56:16 AM  

CantConfirmOrDeny: He's my Rep, and I remember not so long ago looking up his voting record and seeing it was 100% the opposite of anything I would have wanted. Then he held the meeting in Elbert County where he all but accused Obama of not being an American. I wrote him off. But lately.... he's been a lot less crazy. I don't believe him for a second, but it's nice to hear him singing a different tune.

/Still not voting for him


My Rep too.  I think a lot of it has to do with redistricting.  It's now more purple than it used to be and he is shifting a bit to reflect that.

/still not voting for him
 
2017-09-01 10:06:47 AM  

Target Builder: Target Builder: See also: Democrats in vulnerable dostricts who tried to tack Right after 2010. They all got rum out on their asses.

Run. Run. Not rum.

/unfortunate typo


... but why is the rum gone?
 
2017-09-01 10:14:04 AM  

croesius: Pichu0102: Miss5280: Hell yes he's vulnerable. I'm voting his ass out of office the instant he runs again.  But good for this bill.  It won't save him from my voting for his opponent but the bill is it good thing to do.

This bill is meant to play to people on the fence, not meant to actually pass. He wants to be able to say "I tried" to the moderates while showing off his voting record full of shiat to the base. He knows damn well it won't pass.

In short:
[media.daykeeperjournal.com image 400x264]

Well, I'm interested to see what Weatherkiss has to say about this


I haven't really decided.
 
2017-09-01 10:17:11 AM  
Not being as irredeemably sh*tty as most republicans makes someone a hero now?  Who knew?
 
2017-09-01 10:29:23 AM  
Even if this passes, Trump will likely veto it anyways and there's no way there's the votes to override.
 
2017-09-01 10:29:42 AM  

fusillade762: Republicans are caught in their usual immigration trap.

You mean the one between Republicans who love cheap labor and Republicans who hate brown people?


WhyCan'tWeHaveBoth.jpg
 
2017-09-01 10:30:39 AM  

Somacandra: IDisposable: The biggest problem with DACA is that it purports to give legal status to people who are not here legally.  The theory of it being prosecutorial discretion is nonsense - declining to prosecute someone does not make their illegal action become legal.

Check your GED in law against the SCOTUS. It is NOT illegal to be in the U.S. without documentation.


It is a deportable civil offense, though.
 
2017-09-01 10:38:43 AM  

Somacandra: IDisposable: The biggest problem with DACA is that it purports to give legal status to people who are not here legally.  The theory of it being prosecutorial discretion is nonsense - declining to prosecute someone does not make their illegal action become legal.

Check your GED in law against the SCOTUS. It is NOT illegal to be in the U.S. without documentation.


Sure it is.  Just because something is not a CRIME (illegal immigration is a civil violation) doesn't mean it is legal.
 
2017-09-01 10:39:55 AM  

Geotpf: Somacandra: IDisposable: The biggest problem with DACA is that it purports to give legal status to people who are not here legally.  The theory of it being prosecutorial discretion is nonsense - declining to prosecute someone does not make their illegal action become legal.

Check your GED in law against the SCOTUS. It is NOT illegal to be in the U.S. without documentation.

It is a deportable civil offense, though.


Only after the person fails to
 
2017-09-01 10:42:16 AM  

Nocrash: Geotpf: Somacandra: IDisposable: The biggest problem with DACA is that it purports to give legal status to people who are not here legally.  The theory of it being prosecutorial discretion is nonsense - declining to prosecute someone does not make their illegal action become legal.

Check your GED in law against the SCOTUS. It is NOT illegal to be in the U.S. without documentation.

It is a deportable civil offense, though.

Only after the person fails to


Explain to an immigration judge why they should be allowed to stay such as death threats back home.

/ Touch screen is touchy
 
2017-09-01 10:43:42 AM  

Uzzah: timujin: He's got 206 votes, if he pulls every Democrat, so he needs at least 12 more Republicans. Since he likely can't count on every Democratic vote, he'll need a few more as a buffer. With all the infighting and subsequent gridlock that's going on with his party, it'll be interesting to see if he's able to make any headway.

Hastert Rule. Without majority GOP support -- and that is probably unlikely -- the bill doesn't even make it onto the calendar.


That's why he is filing a discharge petition rather than just asking nicely.  If a discharge petition is signed by a majority of House members, then that forces a floor vote - even over the speaker's objections.
 
2017-09-01 11:16:07 AM  
Mike Coffman is a farking shiatstain on the horror that is aurora/brighton/southern-suburban-butthole of the Denver metro. He can suck my hero tag all the way to hades. Fark him.
 
2017-09-01 03:36:25 PM  
Weird tag is obviously on vacation.
 
2017-09-01 04:08:40 PM  
An exercise that goes nowhere but provides him with some cover in 2018.  He's still a Republican, so I doubt he really wants to help anyone but himself with this.
 
2017-09-01 06:08:50 PM  

Uzzah: timujin: He's got 206 votes, if he pulls every Democrat, so he needs at least 12 more Republicans. Since he likely can't count on every Democratic vote, he'll need a few more as a buffer. With all the infighting and subsequent gridlock that's going on with his party, it'll be interesting to see if he's able to make any headway.

Hastert Disgraced Pedophile Former-Speaker Rule. Without majority GOP support -- and that is probably unlikely -- the bill doesn't even make it onto the calendar.


They really need to update the names of some of these rules.
 
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