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(Talking Points Memo)   Trump: No one will sign up for Obamacare if we never advertise that enrollment is open   ( talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line
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2017-08-31 05:01:16 PM  
There is truly no low to which this ahole will not stoop.
 
2017-08-31 05:10:42 PM  
Because of course he did.
 
2017-08-31 05:25:37 PM  
Ah. The Bevin gambit.

That's basically what the governor of Kentucky did within five minutes of taking office. Turned what had been one of the most successful state implementations of the ACA into a fustercluck.
 
2017-08-31 05:29:03 PM  
You can practically see him cackling and rubbing his tiny hands
 
2017-08-31 05:35:28 PM  
It's your own fault for not signing up. The enrolment window was from 12:00 to 12:05 on the third Tuesday in September. All the forms were freely available in the cellar of the Federal offices, in the locked filing cabinet in the disused toilet with the sign on the door saying Beware Of The leopard.
 
2017-08-31 06:02:04 PM  
AND the IRS doesn't ask if you have insurance or not.  No mandate equals implosion, which is what he wants.
 
2017-08-31 06:02:12 PM  
Well if you want to make everything more expensive for everyone involved, this is certainly one way of doing it.

I guess you have to prove Obamacare is failing, and if that means taking the controls and pushing over into a nosedive, well, too bad passengers.
 
2017-08-31 06:26:20 PM  
i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2017-08-31 06:35:10 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-08-31 06:35:42 PM  
This would be a great time for Michelle and Barack to do some interviews. They could mention the enrollment period. I bet they could get supporters like George Clooney and Eva Longoria to talk about the enrollment periods, too.
 
2017-08-31 06:51:14 PM  
Bwa hahahahahah HA!
 
2017-08-31 06:59:35 PM  

DeaH: This would be a great time for Michelle and Barack to do some interviews. They could mention the enrollment period. I bet they could get supporters like George Clooney and Eva Longoria to talk about the enrollment periods, too.


I get why they've been quiet.   But they've been quiet for too long.
 
2017-08-31 07:15:17 PM  
 
2017-08-31 07:28:14 PM  
Was unsuccessful in killing the ACA on the up and up, so they're now going to beat it in an alley until it dies.
 
2017-08-31 07:40:13 PM  

SpaceyCat: Was unsuccessful in killing the ACA on the up and up, so they're now going to beat it in an alley until it dies.


Well, he does have the "orange" part down.

img.fark.net
 
2017-08-31 08:06:34 PM  
That's messed up.
Hopefully the states and cities will take up some slack. Probably part of the reason he's doing this.
Asshole.
 
2017-08-31 08:08:46 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: Link


Nice, someone trying to get on top of it and inform people.
Grassroots ftw.
 
2017-08-31 08:20:33 PM  
media.giphy.com
 
2017-08-31 08:32:39 PM  
There's an old saying in sales that goes "If somebody won't buy something, refuse to sell it to them."

This could backfire and actually boost enrolment.
 
2017-08-31 10:05:29 PM  
Saboteur-in-Chief
 
2017-08-31 10:07:05 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: It's your own fault for not signing up. The enrolment window was from 12:00 to 12:05 on the third Tuesday in September. All the forms were freely available in the cellar of the Federal offices, in the locked filing cabinet in the disused toilet with the sign on the door saying Beware Of The leopard.


Don't forget to bring your towel.
 
2017-08-31 10:08:16 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: Link



Is it not


possible to


(also)


convey this important


information


in a more legible


format


for people who


like paragraphs


?
 
2017-08-31 10:11:21 PM  
So the result is millions of Americans without health insurance.  Remind me again, how does this make America great?
 
2017-08-31 10:13:15 PM  

PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Dusk-You-n-Me: Link


Is it not


possible to



I had no problems reading it.
 
2017-08-31 10:14:28 PM  

PirateKing: Ah. The Bevin gambit.

That's basically what the governor of Kentucky did within five minutes of taking office. Turned what had been one of the most successful state implementations of the ACA into a fustercluck.


It's almost like that was exactly what he campaigned on
 
2017-08-31 10:15:39 PM  

mrshowrules: There's an old saying in sales that goes "If somebody won't buy something, refuse to sell it to them."

This could backfire and actually boost enrolment.


Obama should enlist a few wealthy friends and build a massive national ad campaign around that. "What the government doesn't want you to know!"
 
2017-08-31 10:16:00 PM  

TheHighlandHowler: AND the IRS doesn't ask if you have insurance or not.  No mandate equals implosion, which is what he wants.


They still ask. They are required to by law. They just might not do anything if you lie about it.
 
2017-08-31 10:19:11 PM  

Gubbo: Well if you want to make everything more expensive for everyone involved, this is certainly one way of doing it.

I guess you have to prove Obamacare is failing, and if that means taking the controls and pushing over into a nosedive, well, too bad passengers.


Straight out of the GOP playbook.   Get put in charge of something, break it, point out that it's broken and needs to end.

They've been doing this shiat for years.
 
2017-08-31 10:19:32 PM  

SpaceyCat: Was unsuccessful in killing the ACA on the up and up, so they're now going to beat it in an alley until it dies.


Another sign that he's a True Republican. That's been their strategy with the USPS for years.
 
2017-08-31 10:19:48 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Dusk-You-n-Me: Link


Is it not


possible to

I had no problems reading it.


Right; but it's just a ridiculous way to communicate anything more substantial than a sound byte's worth of information.  It's very off-putting.

Paragraphs are nice and friendly.  Paragraphs want to be helpful.  They feel sad and lonely when they are neglected.

/I'm not supposed to be a jaded old fart yet :(
//I make my living editing stodgy court documents
///they don't leave much room for experimentation
 
2017-08-31 10:20:53 PM  

runwiz: So the result is millions of Americans without health insurance.  Remind me again, how does this make America great?


You clearly don't understand the code words.  "Make America Great" doesn't mean "make America great."  It means "fark the poor, fark minorities, double fark poor minorities, and do whatever pisses off libs."
 
2017-08-31 10:20:54 PM  

runwiz: So the result is millions of Americans without health insurance.  Remind me again, how does this make America great?


I'm trying to figure out how both sides are bad.
 
2017-08-31 10:22:15 PM  
My Obamacare csb:

In Feb, I had a change in my employment.  I went part time and the company didn't offer me ins anymore.
I bought a plan on the open market (NY)

I still made enough at part time to not get any subsidies.  I settled on health first silver leaf plan.  It cost 492 a month, and had a 2k deductible.

Which is a pretty awesome deal.  My employer ins cost almost a grand a month with a 2k deductible.

The only issue I had was my current go didn't accept it, and that the plan required referrals.  I needed to find a new GP and  it was a but of a challenge to find a doctor as a primary who accepted it.  It took me a few days of searching for a suitable one.  But I found one.


That said and done, during the time I had that insurance I needed a coronary ct, and an abdomen sonogram.
I paid 122 bucks out of pocket for each, which was less than comparable tests on my Aetna insurance from employer.

I have since joined my wife's health plan, because the premiums are lower for the family plan, however, my Obamacare was farking awesome, and I'd have kept it if not for the cost savings with our family plan.
\csb
Tl,Dr: Obamacare in NY is great, fark anyone who says differently.
 
2017-08-31 10:22:38 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: runwiz: So the result is millions of Americans without health insurance.  Remind me again, how does this make America great?

You clearly don't understand the code words.  "Make America Great" doesn't mean "make America great."  It means "fark the poor, fark minorities, double fark poor minorities, and do whatever pisses off libs."


That's what it means to poorer Republicans.

To the rich, it means "Give us MORE money, at the expense of everybody else, because all we care about is dying with the highest 'score' possible."
 
2017-08-31 10:22:45 PM  

PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Dusk-You-n-Me: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Dusk-You-n-Me: Link

Right; but it's just a ridiculous way to communicate anything more substantial than a sound byte's worth of information.  It's very off-putting.


Well, I disagree. And I post a lot of links to twitter. You don't have to click on any of them. I won't mind. I won't even know.
 
2017-08-31 10:27:11 PM  

Corn_Fed: mrshowrules: There's an old saying in sales that goes "If somebody won't buy something, refuse to sell it to them."

This could backfire and actually boost enrolment.

Obama should enlist a few wealthy friends and build a massive national ad campaign around that. "What the government doesn't want you to know!"


i538.photobucket.com
 
2017-08-31 10:27:16 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Dusk-You-n-Me: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Dusk-You-n-Me: Link

Right; but it's just a ridiculous way to communicate anything more substantial than a sound byte's worth of information.  It's very off-putting.


Well, I disagree. And I post a lot of links to twitter. You don't have to click on any of them. I won't mind. I won't even know.


I wanted to know what it said, but apparently not badly enough to overcome the wall o'tweets.  :(  I'll try again next time.
 
2017-08-31 10:27:56 PM  

Ive come from afar: My Obamacare csb:

In Feb, I had a change in my employment.  I went part time and the company didn't offer me ins anymore.
I bought a plan on the open market (NY)

I still made enough at part time to not get any subsidies.  I settled on health first silver leaf plan.  It cost 492 a month, and had a 2k deductible.

Which is a pretty awesome deal.  My employer ins cost almost a grand a month with a 2k deductible.

The only issue I had was my current go didn't accept it, and that the plan required referrals.  I needed to find a new GP and  it was a but of a challenge to find a doctor as a primary who accepted it.  It took me a few days of searching for a suitable one.  But I found one.


That said and done, during the time I had that insurance I needed a coronary ct, and an abdomen sonogram.
I paid 122 bucks out of pocket for each, which was less than comparable tests on my Aetna insurance from employer.

I have since joined my wife's health plan, because the premiums are lower for the family plan, however, my Obamacare was farking awesome, and I'd have kept it if not for the cost savings with our family plan.
\csb
Tl,Dr: Obamacare in NY is great, fark anyone who says differently.


Well, anyone else in NY probably won't disagree. It's anyone not in a blue state who's assfark Kochsucking weasel-eyed fetal alcohol syndrome face governor and 1850s style gerrymandered congress-bought bootlickers who denied government funds to HELP PAY FOR ACA OPEN MARKET EXCHANGES who think it sucks because everything costs twice as much.

Trump is original in the same way Wisconsin and Kentucky are original in 2014.
 
2017-08-31 10:35:02 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-08-31 10:36:21 PM  
Why doesn't he just get a cape and pretend to twirl his mustache?
 
2017-08-31 10:37:29 PM  

qorkfiend: TheHighlandHowler: AND the IRS doesn't ask if you have insurance or not.  No mandate equals implosion, which is what he wants.

They still ask. They are required to by law. They just might not do anything if you lie about it.


They pretty much don't. My company doesn't offer insurance, and a lot of the guys I work with don't have any. They all just check yes on "were you insured all year" and the understaffed IRS won't bother to check, because there's no national database of who is insured.

The IRS only does random audits on a tiny fraction of the general population, so the odds of getting caught if you just lie are very small. Most of their time is spent trying to catch small business owners cheating on their taxes.
 
2017-08-31 10:40:51 PM  

runwiz: So the result is millions of Americans without health insurance.  Remind me again, how does this make America great?


Most americans are functionally retarded and will rejoice as their babies starve and die of preventable diseases because their side won
 
2017-08-31 10:41:18 PM  
When is our great nation going to finally find this "Obama" and put him in jail where he belongs?
 
2017-08-31 10:44:23 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Why doesn't he just get a cape and pretend to twirl his mustache?


Because his inspiration was Biff, from Back to the Future 2.

/that's the joke
 
2017-08-31 10:45:44 PM  
People are so desperate for insurance they can't be bothered to sign up if we don't spend millions on advertising.
 
2017-08-31 10:46:02 PM  
Why does trump always look like he's smelling a horrible fart?
 
2017-08-31 10:46:11 PM  

Ive come from afar: My Obamacare csb:

In Feb, I had a change in my employment.  I went part time and the company didn't offer me ins anymore.
I bought a plan on the open market (NY)

I still made enough at part time to not get any subsidies.  I settled on health first silver leaf plan.  It cost 492 a month, and had a 2k deductible.

Which is a pretty awesome deal.  My employer ins cost almost a grand a month with a 2k deductible.

The only issue I had was my current go didn't accept it, and that the plan required referrals.  I needed to find a new GP and  it was a but of a challenge to find a doctor as a primary who accepted it.  It took me a few days of searching for a suitable one.  But I found one.


That said and done, during the time I had that insurance I needed a coronary ct, and an abdomen sonogram.
I paid 122 bucks out of pocket for each, which was less than comparable tests on my Aetna insurance from employer.

I have since joined my wife's health plan, because the premiums are lower for the family plan, however, my Obamacare was farking awesome, and I'd have kept it if not for the cost savings with our family plan.
\csb
Tl,Dr: Obamacare in NY is great, fark anyone who says differently.


NY actually had s
 
2017-08-31 10:47:43 PM  
ome pretty comprehensive insurance market options long before the ACA.  Democratic run states tend to like their citizenry to live.
 
2017-08-31 10:48:16 PM  

Ive come from afar: My Obamacare csb:

In Feb, I had a change in my employment.  I went part time and the company didn't offer me ins anymore.
I bought a plan on the open market (NY)

I still made enough at part time to not get any subsidies.  I settled on health first silver leaf plan.  It cost 492 a month, and had a 2k deductible.

Which is a pretty awesome deal.  My employer ins cost almost a grand a month with a 2k deductible.

The only issue I had was my current go didn't accept it, and that the plan required referrals.  I needed to find a new GP and  it was a but of a challenge to find a doctor as a primary who accepted it.  It took me a few days of searching for a suitable one.  But I found one.


That said and done, during the time I had that insurance I needed a coronary ct, and an abdomen sonogram.
I paid 122 bucks out of pocket for each, which was less than comparable tests on my Aetna insurance from employer.

I have since joined my wife's health plan, because the premiums are lower for the family plan, however, my Obamacare was farking awesome, and I'd have kept it if not for the cost savings with our family plan.
\csb
Tl,Dr: Obamacare in NY is great, fark anyone who says differently.


I live in Texas. All of the insurers pulled out, except Blue Cross Blue Shield. My wife and I are in our early 30s, and have no children. We don't qualify for subsidies,  (Texas didn't expand Medicaid, though we wouldnt qualify anyway) our plan was 530 a month. When all the other insurers pulled out BCBS sent me a letter telling me my insurance was now 937 a month and if I didn't like it, I could kindly eat a bag of dicks.

Texas allowed them to increase theur premiums to price all the lower middle class people out of the market that weren't covered under medicaid. Repeat this anywhere the GOP is in power, and you can see why the ACA is dying. Because it was poisoned.
 
2017-08-31 10:49:00 PM  

Natalie Portmanteau: qorkfiend: TheHighlandHowler: AND the IRS doesn't ask if you have insurance or not.  No mandate equals implosion, which is what he wants.

They still ask. They are required to by law. They just might not do anything if you lie about it.

They pretty much don't. My company doesn't offer insurance, and a lot of the guys I work with don't have any. They all just check yes on "were you insured all year" and the understaffed IRS won't bother to check, because there's no national database of who is insured.

The IRS only does random audits on a tiny fraction of the general population, so the odds of getting caught if you just lie are very small. Most of their time is spent trying to catch small business owners cheating on their taxes.


Well, right, but the box will still be on the forms, your employer will still be required to provide whatever that form is, and checking the box if you don't have insurance is still lying on your federal tax return.
 
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