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2017-08-30 08:27:49 AM  
Not sure which set of flawed belief systems to feel more sorry for.
 
2017-08-30 08:56:47 AM  
Some of Utah's liquor laws are dumb.
 
2017-08-30 09:44:05 AM  
WTF do Mormons know about alcohol?
 
2017-08-30 10:10:47 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: WTF do Mormons know about alcohol?


The same thing Benedictine monks know: in moderation, alcohol is a social lubricant, and such things lead to other dangerous activities, like dancing.
 
2017-08-30 10:23:51 AM  

harleyquinnical: MaudlinMutantMollusk: WTF do Mormons know about alcohol?

The same thing Benedictine monks know: in moderation, alcohol is a social lubricant, and such things lead to other dangerous activities, like dancing.


Actually, that was kind of a joke

/My step-father was a jack-Mormon
//And a chain-smoking alcoholic
 
2017-08-30 12:03:39 PM  
Wherever you find four Catholics, you'll find a fifth.
 
2017-08-30 12:21:03 PM  
"We're blessed with a reminder violation. It can help us ramp up the vigilance."

img.fark.net
 
2017-08-30 12:28:26 PM  

Kouta: Some of Utah's liquor laws are dumb.


FTFY
 
2017-08-30 12:37:55 PM  
The difference between a Catholic and a Mormon is that a Catholic will say hi to you in the liquor store.
 
2017-08-30 12:52:51 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: WTF do Mormons know about alcohol?


They know to leave tneir empty liquor bottles and beer cases in their non mormon neighbors trash. At least that was my experience when living in Utah.
 
2017-08-30 12:53:14 PM  
What?  You can't drink and serve alcohol at the same time?  There's goes any reason to join the Knights Of Columbus.
 
2017-08-30 12:54:15 PM  

vudukungfu: Not sure which set of flawed belief systems to feel more sorry for.

img.fark.net
"Always bet on booze."
 
2017-08-30 12:54:22 PM  
Would have guessed "serving sacramental wine on a Sunday"
 
2017-08-30 12:56:57 PM  
went camping in Zion/Bryce few months ago.  had a few beers, noted i didn't seem to feel anything. friends noted that Utah limits the ABV to a reduced level.  i was like, "ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh........"

remember that in Denver too, few years back. i thought it was the altitude.  locals said CO has something like (and it may have changed, this was, pfffft, 5-7 years ago) gas stations, grocery stores, convenience stores, can only sell the near beer, whereas restaurants and liquor stores that don't serve food can sell the real shiat.  some weird distinction like that.
 
2017-08-30 01:00:24 PM  

rickythepenguin: went camping in Zion/Bryce few months ago.  had a few beers, noted i didn't seem to feel anything. friends noted that Utah limits the ABV to a reduced level.  i was like, "ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh........"

remember that in Denver too, few years back. i thought it was the altitude.  locals said CO has something like (and it may have changed, this was, pfffft, 5-7 years ago) gas stations, grocery stores, convenience stores, can only sell the near beer, whereas restaurants and liquor stores that don't serve food can sell the real shiat.  some weird distinction like that.


If you want the finest beer brewed in Utah that cannot be sold in Utah, look for beers from Epic Brewing.  After a glass of anything from them, you won't feel a thing either, but for the opposite reason.
 
2017-08-30 01:01:00 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: harleyquinnical: MaudlinMutantMollusk: WTF do Mormons know about alcohol?

The same thing Benedictine monks know: in moderation, alcohol is a social lubricant, and such things lead to other dangerous activities, like dancing.

Actually, that was kind of a joke

/My step-father was a jack-Mormon
//And a chain-smoking alcoholic


Forgive me, I was sleep and caffeine deprived at the time.
 
2017-08-30 01:01:02 PM  

rickythepenguin: went camping in Zion/Bryce few months ago.  had a few beers, noted i didn't seem to feel anything. friends noted that Utah limits the ABV to a reduced level.  i was like, "ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh........"

remember that in Denver too, few years back. i thought it was the altitude.  locals said CO has something like (and it may have changed, this was, pfffft, 5-7 years ago) gas stations, grocery stores, convenience stores, can only sell the near beer, whereas restaurants and liquor stores that don't serve food can sell the real shiat.  some weird distinction like that.


It's 3.2 ABW beer, aka what you call light beer. If you didn't feel anything, it's because you didn't drink enough.
 
2017-08-30 01:01:13 PM  

rickythepenguin: went camping in Zion/Bryce few months ago.  had a few beers, noted i didn't seem to feel anything. friends noted that Utah limits the ABV to a reduced level.  i was like, "ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh........"

remember that in Denver too, few years back. i thought it was the altitude.  locals said CO has something like (and it may have changed, this was, pfffft, 5-7 years ago) gas stations, grocery stores, convenience stores, can only sell the near beer, whereas restaurants and liquor stores that don't serve food can sell the real shiat.  some weird distinction like that.


In MN you can only buy 3.2 abv and non-alcoholic in grocery stores, gas stations, etc. Be weary of the 3.2 flu.
 
2017-08-30 01:01:21 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-08-30 01:01:27 PM  

Eli WhiskeyDik: Utah's liquor laws generate millions in revenue help provide services for millions.

FTFY


FTFY^2
 
2017-08-30 01:04:23 PM  

Harry Freakstorm: Would have guessed "serving sacramental wine on a Sunday"


That would get slapped down so fast by the courts on religious freedom grounds Utah would sink a good several feet from the impact.
 
2017-08-30 01:04:28 PM  
i.pinimg.com
 
2017-08-30 01:05:00 PM  

Jorgie: Eli WhiskeyDik: Utah's liquor laws generate millions in revenue help provide services for millions.

FTFY

FTFY^2


ah, the regressive tax genie has popped out i see
 
2017-08-30 01:05:21 PM  

Harry Freakstorm: Would have guessed "serving sacramental wine on a Sunday"


That's what I thought.  So the church in question was fined not for sales of liquor at a church fundraising party but because some volunteers were drinking on the job?  The former makes some sense, but the later makes none at all.

Am I or the article missing some detail?  Why would a church be fined for having a bunch of drunk volunteers? And even if a church official/rep handed out a couple paper cups of wine or beer to the volunteers - it's not a sales transaction.  I don't get it.
 
2017-08-30 01:06:15 PM  

WyDave: What?  You can't drink and serve alcohol at the same time?  There's goes any reason to join the Knights Of Columbus.


Um, you still get to stab pregnant Protestant women in the belly with a sword.

/Ooops.
//Said too much.
 
2017-08-30 01:08:02 PM  

Harry Freakstorm: Would have guessed "serving sacramental wine on a Sunday"


They actually have to be licensed for that. But since Catholics believe in transubstantiation, they could just claim that it's not wine by the time it's distributed.

There is one too many Ms in Mormon.
 
2017-08-30 01:13:33 PM  

optimistic_cynic: rickythepenguin: went camping in Zion/Bryce few months ago.  had a few beers, noted i didn't seem to feel anything. friends noted that Utah limits the ABV to a reduced level.  i was like, "ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh........"

remember that in Denver too, few years back. i thought it was the altitude.  locals said CO has something like (and it may have changed, this was, pfffft, 5-7 years ago) gas stations, grocery stores, convenience stores, can only sell the near beer, whereas restaurants and liquor stores that don't serve food can sell the real shiat.  some weird distinction like that.

In MN you can only buy 3.2 abv and non-alcoholic in grocery stores, gas stations, etc. Be weary of the 3.2 flu.


Isn't it also the law in Minnesota that you are limited to 3.2 beer on Sunday because the liquor stores are closed on Sundays and grocery stores can't sell any liquor besides beer?

Anyhow, I just recall several years ago a rather miserable Sunday drinking shiatty watery beer because my stupid friend who lives in Minnesota didn't plan his in-house liquor supply properly.
 
2017-08-30 01:13:49 PM  
They were supposed to serve alcohol through a hole in a sheet.
 
2017-08-30 01:14:19 PM  

LarryDan43: MaudlinMutantMollusk: WTF do Mormons know about alcohol?

They know to leave tneir empty liquor bottles and beer cases in their non mormon neighbors trash. At least that was my experience when living in Utah.


So Mormon God will dig through your trash, but can't see you taking it out to the curb? Interesting.
 
2017-08-30 01:15:13 PM  
After spending the last few years in Utah, man am I glad to be out of there.  This was actually the church I attended while living there.  Tough place to live if your not LDS. Gorgeous scenery there, however.  Park City was fun.  Strange enough, I've never seen more signs for plastic surgery in any other part of the country.
 
2017-08-30 01:15:23 PM  

SirEattonHogg: Harry Freakstorm: Would have guessed "serving sacramental wine on a Sunday"

That's what I thought.  So the church in question was fined not for sales of liquor at a church fundraising party but because some volunteers were drinking on the job?  The former makes some sense, but the later makes none at all.

Am I or the article missing some detail?  Why would a church be fined for having a bunch of drunk volunteers? And even if a church official/rep handed out a couple paper cups of wine or beer to the volunteers - it's not a sales transaction.  I don't get it.


So,  unpaid people serving free or cheap alcohol are expected to not drink any?   I'm sure that law gets violated every single time.   You're working at most likely a loud event with obnoxious kids & drunks, alcohol for the volunteers is probably a necessity.

/ stupid law is stupid
//let's police the fundraiser for evil alcohol use
///volunteer & drink at various fundraisers all the time but thankfully not in utah
 
2017-08-30 01:16:05 PM  

harleyquinnical: MaudlinMutantMollusk: harleyquinnical: MaudlinMutantMollusk: WTF do Mormons know about alcohol?

The same thing Benedictine monks know: in moderation, alcohol is a social lubricant, and such things lead to other dangerous activities, like dancing.

Actually, that was kind of a joke

/My step-father was a jack-Mormon
//And a chain-smoking alcoholic

Forgive me, I was sleep and caffeine deprived at the time.


No worries at all, my friend

/How could you know?
//I was puzzled as hell the first time I saw that magic underwear, though
///the hell?
 
2017-08-30 01:17:30 PM  

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: They were supposed to serve alcohol through a hole in a sheet.


that was a Mickey's wide mouth?
 
2017-08-30 01:19:26 PM  

SirEattonHogg: Anyhow, I just recall several years ago a rather miserable Sunday drinking shiatty watery beer because my stupid friend who lives in Minnesota didn't plan his in-house liquor supply properly.


ha.  to the story i told above, re the weak Utah beer, our camping buddies wisely planned ahead unlike us.....whereas we just bought beer at the town near the campsite (Tropic, about 10-15mi away from Bryce, gorgeously zero light pollution night skies, the stars were just incredible), our friends brought a bottle of vodka and whiskey with them.

as the grateful dead sang, "the bottle was dusty but the liquor was clean..."
 
2017-08-30 01:22:20 PM  
I am sure this has nothing to do with the traditional Mormon belief that the Catholic church is "The Great and Abominable Church, ye The Great Whore of Babylon."  Nope, neither did the fact that Mormons get really pissed off about Catholic cathedrals being in their towns and cities, or the fact that Mormon children regularly bully and taunt Catholic children, or the fact that the Catholics are associated with brown people in Utah.
 
2017-08-30 01:23:08 PM  

SirEattonHogg: optimistic_cynic: rickythepenguin: went camping in Zion/Bryce few months ago.  had a few beers, noted i didn't seem to feel anything. friends noted that Utah limits the ABV to a reduced level.  i was like, "ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh........"

remember that in Denver too, few years back. i thought it was the altitude.  locals said CO has something like (and it may have changed, this was, pfffft, 5-7 years ago) gas stations, grocery stores, convenience stores, can only sell the near beer, whereas restaurants and liquor stores that don't serve food can sell the real shiat.  some weird distinction like that.

In MN you can only buy 3.2 abv and non-alcoholic in grocery stores, gas stations, etc. Be weary of the 3.2 flu.

Isn't it also the law in Minnesota that you are limited to 3.2 beer on Sunday because the liquor stores are closed on Sundays and grocery stores can't sell any liquor besides beer?

Anyhow, I just recall several years ago a rather miserable Sunday drinking shiatty watery beer because my stupid friend who lives in Minnesota didn't plan his in-house liquor supply properly.


That changed, as of July 1st this year it's now legal to purchase alcohol on Sundays.
 
2017-08-30 01:23:27 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Harry Freakstorm: Would have guessed "serving sacramental wine on a Sunday"

They actually have to be licensed for that. But since Catholics believe in transubstantiation, they could just claim that it's not wine by the time it's distributed.

There is one too many Ms in Mormon.


img.fark.net

I don't get it...
 
2017-08-30 01:24:29 PM  

Jorgie: Eli WhiskeyDik: Utah's liquor laws generate millions in revenue help provide services for millions.

FTFY

FTFY^2


img.fark.net
 
2017-08-30 01:25:11 PM  

optimistic_cynic: SirEattonHogg: optimistic_cynic: rickythepenguin: went camping in Zion/Bryce few months ago.  had a few beers, noted i didn't seem to feel anything. friends noted that Utah limits the ABV to a reduced level.  i was like, "ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh........"

remember that in Denver too, few years back. i thought it was the altitude.  locals said CO has something like (and it may have changed, this was, pfffft, 5-7 years ago) gas stations, grocery stores, convenience stores, can only sell the near beer, whereas restaurants and liquor stores that don't serve food can sell the real shiat.  some weird distinction like that.

In MN you can only buy 3.2 abv and non-alcoholic in grocery stores, gas stations, etc. Be weary of the 3.2 flu.

Isn't it also the law in Minnesota that you are limited to 3.2 beer on Sunday because the liquor stores are closed on Sundays and grocery stores can't sell any liquor besides beer?

Anyhow, I just recall several years ago a rather miserable Sunday drinking shiatty watery beer because my stupid friend who lives in Minnesota didn't plan his in-house liquor supply properly.

That changed, as of July 1st this year it's now legal to purchase alcohol on Sundays.


And yeah, no liquor, wine or spirits other than in liquor stores.
 
2017-08-30 01:26:02 PM  

Snarfangel: vudukungfu: Not sure which set of flawed belief systems to feel more sorry for.
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"Always bet on booze."


CSB- Like most Catholic Churches the church/school where my dad went as a kid has a summer picnic every year. One of the most popular booths at said picnic is the booze wheel. That's right! One stop shopping place a bet and win booze (most of it very nice stuff).  Added bonus of it being in the middle of the homemade pirogues booth and the bar.
 
2017-08-30 01:26:30 PM  

Trocadero: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Harry Freakstorm: Would have guessed "serving sacramental wine on a Sunday"

They actually have to be licensed for that. But since Catholics believe in transubstantiation, they could just claim that it's not wine by the time it's distributed.

There is one too many Ms in Mormon.

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I don't get it...


 

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Harry Freakstorm: Would have guessed "serving sacramental wine on a Sunday"

They actually have to be licensed for that. But since Catholics believe in transubstantiation, they could just claim that it's not wine by the time it's distributed.

There is one too many Ms in Mormon.


What someone who needs to get a brain may look like:

images.fineartamerica.com
 
2017-08-30 01:26:45 PM  

winedrinkingman: I am sure this has nothing to do with the traditional Mormon belief that the Catholic church is "The Great and Abominable Church, ye The Great Whore of Babylon."  Nope, neither did the fact that Mormons get really pissed off about Catholic cathedrals being in their towns and cities, or the fact that Mormon children regularly bully and taunt Catholic children, or the fact that the Catholics are associated with brown people in Utah.


I'm sorry, that should be "Whore of all the Earth" not "whore of Babylon."  Mormons actually use both terms for the Catholic religion, but "Whore of All the Earth" was their favorite.
 
2017-08-30 01:28:51 PM  

WyDave: What someone who needs to get a brain may look like:


awesome.  I still, a year later, find myself daydreaming of our trip to yellowstone.  so freaking awesome.
 
2017-08-30 01:35:12 PM  

Trocadero: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Harry Freakstorm: Would have guessed "serving sacramental wine on a Sunday"

They actually have to be licensed for that. But since Catholics believe in transubstantiation, they could just claim that it's not wine by the time it's distributed.

There is one too many Ms in Mormon.

[img.fark.net image 850x478]

I don't get it...


Took me a few seconds...
 
2017-08-30 01:44:56 PM  
so the article, at the end of it anyway, implys that the church needs a liquor license to serve sacramental wine?
nice.

/not that i care.
 
2017-08-30 01:45:00 PM  
Fark Utah. In western Ohio the church not only tolerates drinking while serving, they encourage it.
 
2017-08-30 01:46:16 PM  

winedrinkingman: I am sure this has nothing to do with the traditional Mormon belief that the Catholic church is "The Great and Abominable Church, ye The Great Whore of Babylon."  Nope, neither did the fact that Mormons get really pissed off about Catholic cathedrals being in their towns and cities, or the fact that Mormon children regularly bully and taunt Catholic children, or the fact that the Catholics are associated with brown people in Utah.


Brown people from south of the border.  As I'm sure you know, brown people from certain south pacific islands are one of the lost tribes of Israel and sort of more acceptable - or slighty more.

Something that it was my misfortune to ask a Mormon colleague about - this link between Polynesians and the LDS, as he interpreted it as my geniuine interest in the Church and he launched into a loooong boring story.
 
2017-08-30 01:47:52 PM  
Q: Why do you take two Mormons fishing with you?

A: Because if you take one he will drink all your beer.
 
2017-08-30 01:48:36 PM  
You know who else promoted temperance in order to stick it to the Catholics?
 
2017-08-30 01:52:46 PM  

WyDave: What?  You can't drink and serve alcohol at the same time?  There's goes any reason to join the Knights Of Columbus.


Shiat....just join an Elks Lodge or hang out at. VFW. $3 cocktails and $1wells? I'm down. Those old vet alcoholics have the best stories.
 
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