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2017-08-29 08:27:17 AM  
They should have foam batons and rubber guns.
 
2017-08-29 09:19:38 AM  
Because of course the local PD needs an APC and flashbang grenades to conduct drug raids. Why would you even question that?
 
2017-08-29 09:56:24 AM  
It's just more blind mindless hatred of Obama. As is all of Antichrist Trump's obsessions. Trump's only focus has been whatever Obama was for, he is against.
 
2017-08-29 10:12:48 AM  
Because being able to protect and serve the general public is not in the job description.

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2017-08-29 11:11:39 AM  

harleyquinnical: Because being able to protect and serve the general public is not in the job description.

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2017-08-29 11:14:03 AM  

Kevin72: It's just more blind mindless hatred of Obama. As is all of Antichrist Trump's obsessions. Trump's only focus has been whatever Obama was for, he is against.


Am I the only one who thinks the entirety of Trump's presidential career, from the very beginning to the actions he's taken since being in office, can all be traced back to one single incident, to one catalyzing moment that put it all in motion and that has served as the primary motivation for everything that followed? That, of course, being the time when Obama poked fun at him during the White House Correspondents' Dinner.
 
2017-08-29 11:19:43 AM  
Well of course they should.

When Trump decides to declare himself Predisent for life and enforce martial law, he needs to make sure the Protection Squad has all of the killing power it needs and more.

All those dirty Jews, blackies, messicans, homos, cripples, and transs aren't just going to kill themselves, dontchaknow.
 
2017-08-29 11:22:50 AM  
GAH! Hit by the filter.

Oh well.

And I forgot to add in Islamists to that list of "undesirables" as well.
 
2017-08-29 11:27:16 AM  

timujin: Kevin72: It's just more blind mindless hatred of Obama. As is all of Antichrist Trump's obsessions. Trump's only focus has been whatever Obama was for, he is against.

Am I the only one who thinks the entirety of Trump's presidential career, from the very beginning to the actions he's taken since being in office, can all be traced back to one single incident, to one catalyzing moment that put it all in motion and that has served as the primary motivation for everything that followed? That, of course, being the time when Obama poked fun at him during the White House Correspondents' Dinner.


My comment should indicate that I am a second. You are not alone.
 
2017-08-29 11:45:43 AM  

Kevin72: timujin: Kevin72: It's just more blind mindless hatred of Obama. As is all of Antichrist Trump's obsessions. Trump's only focus has been whatever Obama was for, he is against.

Am I the only one who thinks the entirety of Trump's presidential career, from the very beginning to the actions he's taken since being in office, can all be traced back to one single incident, to one catalyzing moment that put it all in motion and that has served as the primary motivation for everything that followed? That, of course, being the time when Obama poked fun at him during the White House Correspondents' Dinner.

My comment should indicate that I am a second. You are not alone.


You wrote that he hates Obama, and that much is obvious, he's obviously focused on rolling back anything done during Obama's Presidency. My point was why he's that way.

I was reading an article the other day that said it was because he hated the fact that Obama, a black man, had the audacity to step into a role that had heretofore been filled by an old, white man.

I don't believe it goes that deep, I think it's simply the case that Obama hurt that Oompa-Loompa looking, short-fingered, squirrel-headed, sloppily dressed, incoherent, thin-skinned moron's fee fees. Obama made fun of him in public and his only motivation since has been to take revenge for that slight.
 
2017-08-29 12:06:47 PM  

timujin: Kevin72: timujin: Kevin72: It's just more blind mindless hatred of Obama. As is all of Antichrist Trump's obsessions. Trump's only focus has been whatever Obama was for, he is against.

Am I the only one who thinks the entirety of Trump's presidential career, from the very beginning to the actions he's taken since being in office, can all be traced back to one single incident, to one catalyzing moment that put it all in motion and that has served as the primary motivation for everything that followed? That, of course, being the time when Obama poked fun at him during the White House Correspondents' Dinner.

My comment should indicate that I am a second. You are not alone.

You wrote that he hates Obama, and that much is obvious, he's obviously focused on rolling back anything done during Obama's Presidency. My point was why he's that way.

I was reading an article the other day that said it was because he hated the fact that Obama, a black man, had the audacity to step into a role that had heretofore been filled by an old, white man.

I don't believe it goes that deep, I think it's simply the case that Obama hurt that Oompa-Loompa looking, short-fingered, squirrel-headed, sloppily dressed, incoherent, thin-skinned moron's fee fees. Obama made fun of him in public and his only motivation since has been to take revenge for that slight.


Fine, I've heard that story too, and understand such origins.
 
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2017-08-29 12:14:38 PM  
Military equipment with no military training or discipline and a lax, family first, alpha dog, atmosphere? What could possibly go wrong?
 
2017-08-29 12:15:13 PM  
Because how can one possibly patrol the streets of Mayberry without an MRAP?
 
2017-08-29 12:16:58 PM  
That crap isn't to protect the people, like the liberal-hating commenters say.  It's to subjugate the people.
 
2017-08-29 12:18:02 PM  
Short answer:  no.

Medium answer: noooooo.

Long answer: giving a group of officers, whose mission is to strengthen the community, the same equipment that's used to take hostile areas under siege is an incredibly stupid and dangerous idea.  That money is much better served hiring additional officers, creating community outreach programs, or a whole host of other ways.  Treating the community like a war zone will not end well, it never does.  What the fark is wrong with you.
 
2017-08-29 12:18:53 PM  
Y'all are seeming to get the job done fine of oppressing minorities and shooting non-hostile family pets when you raid the wrong house in the middle of the night.

You don't need better tools or more of them.

OK.  Maybe some Pervitin would put more of a fine point of where you're coming from.
 
2017-08-29 12:20:13 PM  
I'm surprised he's not sending all of said equipment to Chicago.  I never thought I'd see the day where a sitting President would threaten a US city, but here we are.  Or rather were, several months ago.  Feels like the Nectarine Noriega has been in office for years, not months.
 
2017-08-29 12:20:31 PM  

timujin: Kevin72: It's just more blind mindless hatred of Obama. As is all of Antichrist Trump's obsessions. Trump's only focus has been whatever Obama was for, he is against.

Am I the only one who thinks the entirety of Trump's presidential career, from the very beginning to the actions he's taken since being in office, can all be traced back to one single incident, to one catalyzing moment that put it all in motion and that has served as the primary motivation for everything that followed? That, of course, being the time when Obama poked fun at him during the White House Correspondents' Dinner.


The Frontline documentary on Trump uses the dinner as its overarching structure.
 
2017-08-29 12:20:34 PM  

harleyquinnical: Because being able to protect and serve the general public is not in the job description.

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2017-08-29 12:21:07 PM  

Kevin72: timujin: Kevin72: timujin: Kevin72: It's just more blind mindless hatred of Obama. As is all of Antichrist Trump's obsessions. Trump's only focus has been whatever Obama was for, he is against.

Am I the only one who thinks the entirety of Trump's presidential career, from the very beginning to the actions he's taken since being in office, can all be traced back to one single incident, to one catalyzing moment that put it all in motion and that has served as the primary motivation for everything that followed? That, of course, being the time when Obama poked fun at him during the White House Correspondents' Dinner.

My comment should indicate that I am a second. You are not alone.

You wrote that he hates Obama, and that much is obvious, he's obviously focused on rolling back anything done during Obama's Presidency. My point was why he's that way.

I was reading an article the other day that said it was because he hated the fact that Obama, a black man, had the audacity to step into a role that had heretofore been filled by an old, white man.

I don't believe it goes that deep, I think it's simply the case that Obama hurt that Oompa-Loompa looking, short-fingered, squirrel-headed, sloppily dressed, incoherent, thin-skinned moron's fee fees. Obama made fun of him in public and his only motivation since has been to take revenge for that slight.

Fine, I've heard that story too, and understand such origins.


Hah, sorry, wasn't trying to argue there, though reading it back it seems like I might have been. I only meant to clarify what I'd originally written. We're on the same page. I think the most succinct example I've seen is a pic he retweeted a week or so ago:

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I mean, seriously, what the ever loving fark is wrong with this shiat-heel?
 
2017-08-29 12:22:42 PM  

harleyquinnical: Because being able to protect and serve the general public is not in the job description.

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Thanks, Adama!
 
2017-08-29 12:23:10 PM  

timujin: Kevin72: It's just more blind mindless hatred of Obama. As is all of Antichrist Trump's obsessions. Trump's only focus has been whatever Obama was for, he is against.

Am I the only one who thinks the entirety of Trump's presidential career, from the very beginning to the actions he's taken since being in office, can all be traced back to one single incident, to one catalyzing moment that put it all in motion and that has served as the primary motivation for everything that followed? That, of course, being the time when Obama poked fun at him during the White House Correspondents' Dinner.


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The moment we all got farked.
 
2017-08-29 12:23:36 PM  

Kevin72: timujin: Kevin72: timujin: Kevin72: It's just more blind mindless hatred of Obama. As is all of Antichrist Trump's obsessions. Trump's only focus has been whatever Obama was for, he is against.

Am I the only one who thinks the entirety of Trump's presidential career, from the very beginning to the actions he's taken since being in office, can all be traced back to one single incident, to one catalyzing moment that put it all in motion and that has served as the primary motivation for everything that followed? That, of course, being the time when Obama poked fun at him during the White House Correspondents' Dinner.

My comment should indicate that I am a second. You are not alone.

You wrote that he hates Obama, and that much is obvious, he's obviously focused on rolling back anything done during Obama's Presidency. My point was why he's that way.

I was reading an article the other day that said it was because he hated the fact that Obama, a black man, had the audacity to step into a role that had heretofore been filled by an old, white man.

I don't believe it goes that deep, I think it's simply the case that Obama hurt that Oompa-Loompa looking, short-fingered, squirrel-headed, sloppily dressed, incoherent, thin-skinned moron's fee fees. Obama made fun of him in public and his only motivation since has been to take revenge for that slight.

Fine, I've heard that story too, and understand such origins.


With that agreed upon, am I the only one who suspects Trump has a team working to find a reason to get Obama in handcuffs?  Maybe not feverishly working, but at least keeping an eye out for anything that can be found to have Obama hauled off to jail for?
 
2017-08-29 12:23:53 PM  
Just checking this thread to see if our resident disingenuous authoritarian boot-licking cocksucker is here.

/not yet
 
2017-08-29 12:25:14 PM  
We are fortunate in NY to have decent, well trained State Troopers. Of course bad apples blah blah blah but on the whole they are a professional bunch. I'm okay with their SORT teams having specialized gear for special situations.

Local guys? F*ck no. No, no, no.
 
2017-08-29 12:25:47 PM  
Using military gear makes the cops escalate riots.  Just ask these guys.

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You loan them UN troop helmets and they just cannot help themselves.
 
2017-08-29 12:26:04 PM  

Marbleisheavy: ..giving a group of officers, whose mission is to strengthen the community, the same equipment that's used to take hostile areas under siege is an incredibly stupid and dangerous idea.  That money is much better served hiring additional officers, creating community outreach programs, or a whole host of other ways.


And once the wealthy manufacturers of "community outreach" purchase some lobbyists and politicians, that'll get off the ground.
 
2017-08-29 12:26:06 PM  
I never had a problem with the basic APC they used to roll with, the one that held like two people and had a ram on the front? Yeah, those were OK, there are occasional situations where they need to force an entry with something like that. The problem is that they don't stop with that, and turn this:
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Into THIS:
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The first image is actually an example of when a vehicle like that is needed. That was from the Los Angeles bank robbery/shootout, where the robbers had full auto weapons and body armor, and were shooting it out in the streets with the cops. The second image just makes me afraid of the police, and I've done nothing wrong.

So they take something that is used in extreme situations and turn it into something that they could literally mount an assault on the public with. So yeah subby, I agree with you.
 
2017-08-29 12:27:17 PM  
"But after the Justice Department concluded that the use of military-style equipment made matters worse in Ferguson, President Obama put some equipment off limits - including tracked armored vehicles, bayonets, and grenade launchers - and required a showing of need for tactical vehicles with wheels."

How dare Obama want to restrict police from using grenade launchers and bayonets against civilians?!

I can already hear the whataboutism regarding him using drone strikes against radicalized Americans in Yemen and Pakistan.
 
2017-08-29 12:27:57 PM  
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2017-08-29 12:28:00 PM  

Mikey1969: I never had a problem with the basic APC they used to roll with, the one that held like two people and had a ram on the front? Yeah, those were OK, there are occasional situations where they need to force an entry with something like that. The problem is that they don't stop with that, and turn this:
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Into THIS:
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The first image is actually an example of when a vehicle like that is needed. That was from the Los Angeles bank robbery/shootout, where the robbers had full auto weapons and body armor, and were shooting it out in the streets with the cops. The second image just makes me afraid of the police, and I've done nothing wrong.

So they take something that is used in extreme situations and turn it into something that they could literally mount an assault on the public with. So yeah subby, I agree with you.


How often does the bottom vehicle actually roll?
 
2017-08-29 12:28:41 PM  

timujin: Kevin72: timujin: Kevin72: It's just more blind mindless hatred of Obama. As is all of Antichrist Trump's obsessions. Trump's only focus has been whatever Obama was for, he is against.

Am I the only one who thinks the entirety of Trump's presidential career, from the very beginning to the actions he's taken since being in office, can all be traced back to one single incident, to one catalyzing moment that put it all in motion and that has served as the primary motivation for everything that followed? That, of course, being the time when Obama poked fun at him during the White House Correspondents' Dinner.

My comment should indicate that I am a second. You are not alone.

You wrote that he hates Obama, and that much is obvious, he's obviously focused on rolling back anything done during Obama's Presidency. My point was why he's that way.

I was reading an article the other day that said it was because he hated the fact that Obama, a black man, had the audacity to step into a role that had heretofore been filled by an old, white man.

I don't believe it goes that deep, I think it's simply the case that Obama hurt that Oompa-Loompa looking, short-fingered, squirrel-headed, sloppily dressed, incoherent, thin-skinned moron's fee fees. Obama made fun of him in public and his only motivation since has been to take revenge for that slight.


Just another example of something that is Barack Obama's fault.


/Thanks, Obama!
 
2017-08-29 12:28:47 PM  

namegoeshere: We are fortunate in NY to have decent, well trained State Troopers. Of course bad apples blah blah blah but on the whole they are a professional bunch. I'm okay with their SORT teams having specialized gear for special situations.

Local guys? F*ck no. No, no, no.


I really wish the NYS troopers would stop pulling people over on roads with such dangerous shoulders. They have a penchant for doing so doing the worst possible times of the day for traffic. Sure, pull people over (the state needs money) but do it in a safe way for officer and drivers. A lot of them could use better computer skills as well. Other that that, I'd agree they are professional at least IME.
 
2017-08-29 12:29:03 PM  

taoistlumberjak: With that agreed upon, am I the only one who suspects Trump has a team working to find a reason to get Obama in handcuffs?  Maybe not feverishly working, but at least keeping an eye out for anything that can be found to have Obama hauled off to jail for?


As much as I'm sure that would give them no end of joy, I can't think of anything that would come remotely close to a justification for such action. Obama was just too damned good at Presidentin'
 
2017-08-29 12:31:39 PM  
Barney Fife, is gonna go medieval  on your ass!
 
2017-08-29 12:32:26 PM  

timujin: Kevin72: timujin: Kevin72: timujin: Kevin72: It's just more blind mindless hatred of Obama. As is all of Antichrist Trump's obsessions. Trump's only focus has been whatever Obama was for, he is against.

Am I the only one who thinks the entirety of Trump's presidential career, from the very beginning to the actions he's taken since being in office, can all be traced back to one single incident, to one catalyzing moment that put it all in motion and that has served as the primary motivation for everything that followed? That, of course, being the time when Obama poked fun at him during the White House Correspondents' Dinner.

My comment should indicate that I am a second. You are not alone.

You wrote that he hates Obama, and that much is obvious, he's obviously focused on rolling back anything done during Obama's Presidency. My point was why he's that way.

I was reading an article the other day that said it was because he hated the fact that Obama, a black man, had the audacity to step into a role that had heretofore been filled by an old, white man.

I don't believe it goes that deep, I think it's simply the case that Obama hurt that Oompa-Loompa looking, short-fingered, squirrel-headed, sloppily dressed, incoherent, thin-skinned moron's fee fees. Obama made fun of him in public and his only motivation since has been to take revenge for that slight.

Fine, I've heard that story too, and understand such origins.

Hah, sorry, wasn't trying to argue there, though reading it back it seems like I might have been. I only meant to clarify what I'd originally written. We're on the same page. I think the most succinct example I've seen is a pic he retweeted a week or so ago:

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I mean, seriously, what the ever loving fark is wrong with this shiat-heel?


You know, I saw Farkers posting the same thing, but with the roles reversed last week, why is this one 'bad'?

Personally, I'm more concerned with who was the original and who was the ripoff on  this one.
 
2017-08-29 12:33:05 PM  
Call the Cops - Rob Hustle ft. Bump
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2017-08-29 12:33:17 PM  
I don't know. Why don't you ask the white supremacist militia guarding Neo Nazis at Charlottesville?

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I mean, if the white supremacists are going to "come armed this time" and play Army, then the cops have to be able to play Army, too.
 
2017-08-29 12:34:49 PM  
How much did Operation Trump cost you, Vlad?

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2017-08-29 12:35:19 PM  

timujin: Kevin72: It's just more blind mindless hatred of Obama. As is all of Antichrist Trump's obsessions. Trump's only focus has been whatever Obama was for, he is against.

Am I the only one who thinks the entirety of Trump's presidential career, from the very beginning to the actions he's taken since being in office, can all be traced back to one single incident, to one catalyzing moment that put it all in motion and that has served as the primary motivation for everything that followed? That, of course, being the time when Obama poked fun at him during the White House Correspondents' Dinner.


Watch the videos of Obama roasting him, you can see him just sitting there seething. Even better though is Seth Meyers roasting him at that same dinner. But I think you're right, you can see the hatred building up in him as the evening progressed.

Seth Meyers Slams Donald Trump At White House Correspondents' Dinner!
Youtube Mv4MzaGk2VI
 
2017-08-29 12:35:21 PM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: I don't know. Why don't you ask the white supremacist militia guarding Neo Nazis at Charlottesville?

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I mean, if the white supremacists are going to "come armed this time" and play Army, then the cops have to be able to play Army, too.


I'd like to see a Venn Diagram showing the overlap between the two groups.

Plenty of great officers out there.

But not all of them.
 
2017-08-29 12:35:26 PM  
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2017-08-29 12:35:55 PM  
They should be able to have military equipment, but only if they pay for it with forfeited assets.
 
2017-08-29 12:36:16 PM  

blackminded: Just checking this thread to see if our resident disingenuous authoritarian boot-licking cocksucker is here.

/not yet


Could you be more specific? Wait, nevermind. We can apply the Justice Potter Stewart test. We'll know disingenuous authoritarian boot-licking cocksucking when we see it.
 
2017-08-29 12:36:46 PM  
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Fort Pierce has a population in the 50k range. I understand why the police might want one of these, I want one of these, but I can't understand why they might think they need one of these.
 
2017-08-29 12:36:55 PM  

TheirThey'reNow: namegoeshere: We are fortunate in NY to have decent, well trained State Troopers. Of course bad apples blah blah blah but on the whole they are a professional bunch. I'm okay with their SORT teams having specialized gear for special situations.

Local guys? F*ck no. No, no, no.

I really wish the NYS troopers would stop pulling people over on roads with such dangerous shoulders. They have a penchant for doing so doing the worst possible times of the day for traffic. Sure, pull people over (the state needs money) but do it in a safe way for officer and drivers. A lot of them could use better computer skills as well. Other that that, I'd agree they are professional at least IME.


Yep. I got pulled over in a bad place a couple years back. I totally was speeding. A car passed us uncomfortably close and scared the poop out of the Trooper, who handed me back my license and said, "Well, yeah. You were going too fast, but I really don't want to die today. So do everyone a favor and keep it under a hundred, 'kay?"

I have no point except it's a fun story I like to tell.

/kept it under a hundred
 
2017-08-29 12:37:35 PM  

blackminded: Just checking this thread to see if our resident disingenuous authoritarian boot-licking cocksucker is here.


Can you narrow it down a little?
 
2017-08-29 12:38:10 PM  
No?  B-b-b-but what about the boogeyman?
 
2017-08-29 12:38:12 PM  

Voiceofreason01: Because of course the local PD needs an APC and flashbang grenades to conduct drug raids. Why would you even question that?


It's my sincere belief that body armor and automatic weapons have become a substitute for good police work.

Case in point: The raid on a house in my hometown. http://reason.com/blog/2015/08/03/swat-team-liable-for-wrong-house-fl​a​sh-b
TL;DR - Guy used unsecured WiFi to make anonymous threats.  SWAT teams raided the house and found an 18 year old and her Grandmother.  Family got a settlement.

20 minutes of actual, thinking man's police work would have concluded that anyone in the area could have made those threats.
 
2017-08-29 12:38:57 PM  

croesius: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: I don't know. Why don't you ask the white supremacist militia guarding Neo Nazis at Charlottesville?

[img.fark.net image 712x533]

I mean, if the white supremacists are going to "come armed this time" and play Army, then the cops have to be able to play Army, too.

I'd like to see a Venn Diagram showing the overlap between the two groups.

Plenty of great officers out there.

But not all of them.


Well, when the head of the Rosedale Ku Klux Klan draws his pistol, fires at a black man defending himself and others against an oncoming group of Neo Nazis and only receives a charge of discharging a firearm within 1000 units of measurement from a school, I think it's obvious the FBI's warning about white supremacist organizations penetrating law enforcement is true.
 
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