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(Kansas City)   Former GOP senator: "To my fellow Republicans: We cannot allow Donald Trump to redefine the Republican Party." Trump: "No problemo, Dude. I'm not. I'm going to keep doing what the GOP has done for the past 50 years"   ( amp.kansascity.com) divider line
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2017-08-28 12:09:08 PM  
Win elections?
 
2017-08-28 12:20:42 PM  
He's the apotheosis of the Republican platform: selfish, short-sighted, White nativism. The only thing he's missing is Christian evangelism.

Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what your country does for you, and how little you can give it.
 
2017-08-28 12:38:49 PM  
No. Trump epitomizes the GOP.

Own it, motherfarkers.
 
2017-08-28 12:40:49 PM  
Then why did Trump run as a Republican?   Hhhmmmm....it's almost as if Trump knew which way the wind blew for these folks....
 
2017-08-28 12:43:19 PM  
Oh no you don't.  Trump is not just a republican, he's the UBER republican.  You guys can whine and biatch about how you don't support politics of divisiveness, but your side pretty much invented it.  Trump is the logical conclusion of the increasingly radicalized right wing rhetoric in this country.  You can't abandon him without abandoning your base.

So good luck with that.
 
2017-08-28 12:47:19 PM  

raerae1980: Then why did Trump run as a Republican?   Hhhmmmm....it's almost as if Trump knew which way the wind blew for these folks....


And why did the republican base came out for him in the primaries and why did the leadership fall in line behind him and why did the party's voters come out for him on the election and why does his support among republicans reach 80+? But he totes doesn't represent them.
 
2017-08-28 12:57:29 PM  
When we have pushed the agenda of the Christian right, we have seemed to exclude people who don't share our religious beliefs. We have seemed unfriendly to gay Americans

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"seemed to"?  "SEEMED TO"!?!?!

Look, Barry Goldwater was an asshole in many ways, but he had this right: Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem.

I'm a straight, white, Protestant middle aged man from the U.S.

"SEEMED"?!???!

You haven't "seemed" to exclude non-fundie Christians or gays, you've let the fundies take over your platform and damn well excluded them. You've also run off people like me, who might have looked at your candidates and made a selection on policy and temperament, not party.
 
2017-08-28 01:07:14 PM  
You've been building this golem for 50 years. Deal with it.
 
2017-08-28 01:28:58 PM  
Danforth's got a good heart.  But he's incredibly naive and idealistic.  I thought that a few years back when I read is book.

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2017-08-28 02:08:34 PM  

SoupGuru: No. Trump epitomizes the GOP.

Own it, motherfarkers.


But Trump's not even religious.  He just uses religion to pander and push his own


... nevermind.
 
2017-08-28 02:09:57 PM  
FARK ALL YOU REPUBLICAN ASSHOLES.
Quit associating yourself with Abraham Lincoln, too, you massive tools.
 
2017-08-28 02:10:48 PM  
A little late to the party aren't you Johnny.
 
2017-08-28 02:11:49 PM  
Party of Lincoln is decidedly different than the ideology of Lincoln.
 
2017-08-28 02:12:15 PM  
John C Danforth or Jack Danforth? Is Jack his nickname? Jack Danforth is in the title, but the byline is John C Danforth.
 
2017-08-28 02:14:10 PM  
Senator from 1976 to 1995. He left just as the Gingrich thing was really hitting its stride. He would almost certainly have been re-elected but chose to leave. He's old-school. I'm not going to say I'm aligned with him by any means; he pushed very hard to get Clarence Thomas onto SCOTUS, which has been a disaster in my opinion.

But he's the opposite of the scorched Earth Republicans who have come to dominate.

There used to be at least some Republicans with whom you could simply disagree without having to wonder how they came to be such soulless assholes.
 
2017-08-28 02:14:19 PM  
Right-wing Jesus freak party attempts to bring about the apocalypse so their god can come back and punish their enemies, but you people still vote for them.
 
2017-08-28 02:15:04 PM  
Danforth:  "We are the party of Abraham Lincoln..."


And he's pissed...

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2017-08-28 02:15:16 PM  
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2017-08-28 02:15:32 PM  
The real change has been THE NEW HONESTY.

If you spend a bunch of your time couching your real goals of racism, bigotry, and class warfare as Patriotic and Noble examples of Freedom, or at least Free Markets...

And The orange farkwit who just ran by screaming "Ni**er! Ni**er! Ni**er!" Won the election and got rewarded for it, you start wondering why you're bothering spending all that time lying when nobody's buying it anyway.
 
2017-08-28 02:15:47 PM  
If I recall correctly, it was Donald Trump that voted to confirm Neil Gorsuch after Donald Trump changed to the rules of the Senate. Nope that was the GOP and this toolbag. Go fark yourself GOP. I'll live to see your party destroyed and your foolish voter base disenfranchised. Never another Trump.
 
2017-08-28 02:15:55 PM  
Laughter out loud.

Trump represents the endgame. Not some start of a transformative process. But c'est la vie and all that shiat, eh?
 
2017-08-28 02:16:58 PM  
Danforth is/was respected around here, in my family, but he's been out of office since before I was old enough to vote.  The party has significantly devolved without him.
 
2017-08-28 02:17:29 PM  
Republicans gave up the right to be known as "the party of Lincoln" when they embarked on the Southern Strategy.
 
2017-08-28 02:17:35 PM  

raerae1980: Then why did Trump run as a Republican?   Hhhmmmm....it's almost as if Trump knew which way the wind blew for these folks....


More importantly, why did Republicans support, campaign, and vote for him?
 
2017-08-28 02:17:41 PM  
Donald Trump has more republican in his tiny pinky than most Republicans have in their entire humanoid exterior shells!

their base knows this, that's why they voted (R)

greatest. Republican. president. since. Lincoln.
 
2017-08-28 02:20:05 PM  
Trump isn't the cesspool of US sociopolitics or socioeconomics, he's the mirror.
 
2017-08-28 02:20:28 PM  
Trump just openly states what the GOP winks at and tip toes around.

See that's different...
 
2017-08-28 02:20:57 PM  

Isitoveryet: Donald Trump has more republican in his tiny pinky than most Republicans have in their entire humanoid exterior shells!

their base knows this, that's why they voted (R)

greatest. Republican. president. since. Lincoln.


And Donald wants you to smell his finger.
 
2017-08-28 02:21:47 PM  
So what're the odds he voted for Trump? Somewhere around 100%?
 
2017-08-28 02:22:07 PM  
Prove he doesn't share your values, impeach him.
 
2017-08-28 02:22:28 PM  
Uhm...

This pattern of partisan decision has old roots, but really took off during the tenure of FWB, under the masterful direction of Karl Rove.  The War on Terror created the perfect environment for hawkish authoritarianism, which now defines GOP domestic security policies and political campaigning styles.  The GOP has always thrived on fear.  Secondly - and perhaps most importantly - the Republican party of Abe transformed into the Democrats during the days of the civil rights movement.  Basically, Republicans are all about country unity so long as black people and immigrants are kept impoverished and disenfranchised.
 
2017-08-28 02:23:01 PM  

Jumbled: FARK ALL YOU REPUBLICAN ASSHOLES.
Quit associating yourself with Abraham Lincoln, too, you massive tools.


There are two Lincolns, the real Lincoln that wanted to be sure that blacks didn't get freaky with white women or serve as jurors, and the fantasy Lincoln that believed blacks and whites to be equals.
 
2017-08-28 02:23:32 PM  

CheekyMonkey: Republicans gave up the right to be known as "the party of Lincoln" when they embarked on the Southern Strategy.


And they do so hate it when you remind them of that fact.
 
2017-08-28 02:24:56 PM  

Fart_Machine: Isitoveryet: Donald Trump has more republican in his tiny pinky than most Republicans have in their entire humanoid exterior shells!

their base knows this, that's why they voted (R)

greatest. Republican. president. since. Lincoln.

And Donald wants you to smell his finger.


Smell The Glove!

/I LOL'd at 'smell his finger' coming from Mr. Machine
 
2017-08-28 02:25:22 PM  
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2017-08-28 02:25:41 PM  
For someone who insists so hard that he's a member of the Party of Lincoln, he is suspiciously silent on the fact that the majority of his party is sympathetic with the Confederacy.
 
2017-08-28 02:27:06 PM  

Isitoveryet: Fart_Machine: Isitoveryet: Donald Trump has more republican in his tiny pinky than most Republicans have in their entire humanoid exterior shells!

their base knows this, that's why they voted (R)

greatest. Republican. president. since. Lincoln.

And Donald wants you to smell his finger.

Smell The Glove!

/I LOL'd at 'smell his finger' coming from Mr. Machine


No that would be "pull my finger".
 
2017-08-28 02:29:46 PM  
what republicans holding the nation together might look like:
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2017-08-28 02:29:49 PM  
If this is what they have to tell themselves in order to get rid of this asshole, fine. Trump is a distilled, concentrated form of everything conservatives have been asking for, though.

It's kind of like Weird Science, except instead of making the perfect woman, conservatives input a bunch of shiatty local talk radio morons, pictures of Rush Limbaugh, and strapped a dead ferret to the electrodes, and out popped Trump.
 
2017-08-28 02:30:44 PM  

Aar1012: Win elections?


shiat, I misread the headline and though he said he was going to not do what the GOP does
 
2017-08-28 02:31:14 PM  

SoupGuru: No. Trump epitomizes the GOP. Own it, motherfarkers.


He has exposed the GOP for being party before country, party before morality and overtly racist.

Clinton got a BJ? Hah, Trump bragged about sexually assaulting women, on tape.

Only the GOP loves the country? The GOP hates the country and will happily side with enemies to further their agenda. Trump backs confederate traitors and Nazi scum.

Want to win the hearts of the GOP base? More the more racist and xenophobic the better.

GOP backs the military? BS, the GOP attacks active duty servicemen (Trump compared them to Russian assassins), the families of fallen soldiers and trashes war heroes.
 
2017-08-28 02:32:57 PM  
Fark you guys. Fark you all in your stupid conservative holes. You have been planting the seeds of this bullshiat for decades and now that the flower has finally bloomed, you've decided you don't like the smell. Fark you with something rusty. This is EXACTLY the party you always wanted, it's just that Trump is yelling all your secret desires about the blacks and the Mexicans and the other brown people a little too loudly for you to be able to plausibly deny its appeal to you.

So fark off. Lincoln would be ashamed of you. All of you.
 
2017-08-28 02:34:38 PM  

SoupGuru: No. Trump epitomizes the GOP.

Own it, motherfarkers.


Yeah, but he put away the dog whistles that allowed moderates to hold their noses and vote R.

Remember it always: Party>Country. Victory>Party.
 
2017-08-28 02:38:15 PM  

SoupGuru: No. Trump epitomizes the GOP.

Own it, motherfarkers.


One of the weirdest arguments I keep having online is how many Republicans are shocked (shocked I say) at the rise of the alt-right and the racist elements within the GOP itself. I have no choice but to believe that they're being sincere that it caught them entirely off guard when Republicans started marching under the Swastika with the tacit approval of Donald Trump.

Meanwhile, every Democrat I know has been like, "...Yep, saw this coming."

GOP says, 'When we proposed all these initiatives that had a disproportionate effect on people of color, we were just trying to ensure the integrity of our elections / protect our borders / keep safe from terrorists / defend law and order." They say all the right things, but it's hard to trust their motives when dingbats like Stormfront think they're delightful. The problem may or may not exist, but the solution is its own can of worms. If some douchebag in a button down shirt and a Hitler Youth haircut is on TV talking about how awesome I am, I'm going to rethink my position. And possibly hide under the bed. Forever.

We. Saw. This. Coming.

The GOP had their chance to deal with this crap. It might be too late for them. They don't really have anything except the policies they embraced that invited the alt-right into their party. If they suddenly start saying things like "It's our diversity that makes our country great," they're going to lose most of their support.
 
2017-08-28 02:44:03 PM  

Unobtanium: When we have pushed the agenda of the Christian right, we have seemed to exclude people who don't share our religious beliefs. We have seemed unfriendly to gay Americans

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"seemed to"?  "SEEMED TO"!?!?!

Look, Barry Goldwater was an asshole in many ways, but he had this right: Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem.

I'm a straight, white, Protestant middle aged man from the U.S.

"SEEMED"?!???!

You haven't "seemed" to exclude non-fundie Christians or gays, you've let the fundies take over your platform and damn well excluded them. You've also run off people like me, who might have looked at your candidates and made a selection on policy and temperament, not party.


Came here to say this, although you probably said it better than I could have.
If you're REALLY serious about fixing what's wrong with your party, stop prevaricating.  You're either pro-Christian and anti-LGBTQ, or you're not.  Pick a side and own it, and skip the mealy-mouthed "seemed" garbage that only slug-brained morons actually fall for.
 
2017-08-28 02:45:29 PM  

chaoswolf: CheekyMonkey: Republicans gave up the right to be known as "the party of Lincoln" when they embarked on the Southern Strategy.

And they do so hate it when you remind them of that fact.


some of them don't even believe it. Had a Jesus freak Republican tell me the southern strategy was a made up lie on Wikipedia when I told her to stop equating kkk democrats of 50-100 years ago with the current party. Lie, or did she really believe it? I have no idea.
 
2017-08-28 02:47:02 PM  
Current GOP senators: "I think we can, I think we can, I think we can! Besides, his clown act is a great distraction for all crazy shiat we'll send him, which he'll just sign without reading. So what's the actual problem? We think you're behind the times, former GOP senator."
 
2017-08-28 02:51:15 PM  

CheekyMonkey: Republicans gave up the right to be known as "the party of Lincoln" when they embarked on the Southern Strategy.


They gave it up when they accepted support from the Dixiecrats in 1952.
 
2017-08-28 02:52:17 PM  

rwhamann: Had a Jesus freak Republican tell me the southern strategy was a made up lie on Wikipedia when I told her to stop equating kkk democrats of 50-100 years ago with the current party. Lie, or did she really believe it? I have no idea.


Heritage...

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." You know what? It actually does work if their heritage is all about persistent ignorance.
 
2017-08-28 02:52:53 PM  

Ambivalence: Oh no you don't.  Trump is not just a republican, he's the UBER republican.  You guys can whine and biatch about how you don't support politics of divisiveness, but your side pretty much invented it.  Trump is the logical conclusion of the increasingly radicalized right wing rhetoric in this country.  You can't abandon him without abandoning your base.

So good luck with that.


Indeed. Trump is the Kwizatz Haderach of the GOP.
 
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