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(Fortune)   Trump does not do the Cyber   ( fortune.com) divider line
    More: Stupid, resignation letter, Resignation, comprehensive cybersecurity plan, cybersecurity task force, Termination of employment, group resignation letter, national cybersecurity, National Infrastructure Advisory  
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2017-08-28 11:17:27 AM  
In a group resignation letter, they cited both specific shortfalls in the administration's approach to cybersecurity

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2017-08-28 11:41:00 AM  
I would not work cybersecurity for the government.  I assume: super high risk, super low reward.  You make a mistake, it could be a MAJOR PROBLEM.  If you don't mistakes, you get the benefit of a paycheck less than your peers working for corporate America.

/All based on assumption.
 
2017-08-28 11:46:48 AM  
A/S/L?
 
2017-08-28 11:54:04 AM  
Why would he do the cyber?  He said avoiding the herpagonnorsyphilAIDS was his own personal Vietnam.  So I have to assume if his computers do not get CyberAIDS, it must be his own personal Gulf War.
 
2017-08-28 12:18:57 PM  

downstairs: I would not work cybersecurity for the government.  I assume: super high risk, super low reward.  You make a mistake, it could be a MAJOR PROBLEM.  If you don't mistakes, you get the benefit of a paycheck less than your peers working for corporate America.

/All based on assumption.


Low pay vs private sector, which results in a low-talent environment.
Conflicts of interest/moral responsibility - Your values and the values of the administration may not align.
Drug tests
 
2017-08-28 12:32:31 PM  

Munden: downstairs: I would not work cybersecurity for the government.  I assume: super high risk, super low reward.  You make a mistake, it could be a MAJOR PROBLEM.  If you don't mistakes, you get the benefit of a paycheck less than your peers working for corporate America.

/All based on assumption.

Low pay vs private sector, which results in a low-talent environment.
Conflicts of interest/moral responsibility - Your values and the values of the administration may not align.
Drug tests


I'm not primarily in security, but I've been offered to look into government jobs dealing with hardware and software.  The requirements are so onerous, it seemed insurmountable.  And the people hiring were VERY willing to do whatever it took to keep me interested... because it's a very difficult job to fill.  But not for the right reasons- not because they want the best of the best (as, say, a Google job is very hard to land.)  There is so much *expensive* red tape to take these jobs, that you're almost certain that a corporate job of the same description (but not requirements) is going to come along by the time you're even 1/3 of the way of fulfilling the government requirements.

And I'm not talking some super-secret CIA job with your hand on nukes.  I mean, ground-level programmer or junior hardware guy.

I just can't imagine who they filled those jobs with, not me I know that.

They were all super nice though, so I guess that was something.
 
2017-08-28 01:30:15 PM  

harleyquinnical: Why would he do the cyber?  He said avoiding the herpagonnorsyphilAIDS was his own personal Vietnam.  So I have to assume if his computers do not get CyberAIDS, it must be his own personal Gulf War.


This should make no sense, but sadly it does.
 
2017-08-28 03:32:44 PM  
"Make America Strong Again"

"Make America Great Again"

What does that borderline treasonous shiat even mean?

These Shark-Detecting Drones Are Keeping Australian Beaches Safe

That's going to make for some pretty boring movies.
 
2017-08-28 04:20:51 PM  
Kinda disappointed, no acrostic this time.
http://www.nextgov.com/media/gbc/docs/pdfs_edit/082417jm1.pdf
 
2017-08-28 04:47:20 PM  

sno man: Kinda disappointed, no acrostic this time.
http://www.nextgov.com/media/gbc/docs/pdfs_edit/082417jm1.pdf


Especially said for a guy who should know codes and encryption.  SAD.  LOW ENERGY.
 
2017-08-28 04:50:35 PM  
I don't want to see him putting on his robe and wizard hat anyway.
 
2017-08-28 04:58:38 PM  

Diogenes: sno man: Kinda disappointed, no acrostic this time.
http://www.nextgov.com/media/gbc/docs/pdfs_edit/082417jm1.pdf

Especially said for a guy who should know codes and encryption.  SAD.  LOW ENERGY.


I know, right? Thanks!
 
2017-08-28 05:21:26 PM  

Sid_6.7: In a group resignation letter, they cited both specific shortfalls in the administration's approach to cybersecurity

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...is what the first letter of each paragraph spells.


/seriously though. That would have been epic.
 
2017-08-28 05:22:02 PM  
Donald, no.  He's got Barron for that.
 
2017-08-28 05:22:29 PM  
At least we've still got Barron.
 
2017-08-28 05:22:45 PM  

foo monkey: Donald, no.  He's got Barron for that.


Damn
 
2017-08-28 05:24:01 PM  
2nd try...


The first letter of each paragraph spells out: 'but her emails."
 
2017-08-28 05:25:18 PM  
Yes, well, competent management of the "cyber" might interfere with some of Daddy Putin's stuff that he's got going on.
 
2017-08-28 05:26:07 PM  
Help computah.
 
2017-08-28 05:26:43 PM  
Well. Oiled. Machine.
 
2017-08-28 05:29:37 PM  
Trump is on the phone to the bullpen, telling Pence to get Barron up and get loose.
 
2017-08-28 05:32:09 PM  
i.ytimg.com"I'll do the cyber myself then."
 
2017-08-28 05:35:12 PM  
It's time to call in.... The Expert.

img.fark.net
 
2017-08-28 05:35:51 PM  
he would if he knew how much pron is on there.
he would cyber the shiat out of the intranext.
 
2017-08-28 05:37:55 PM  

Ishkur: It's time to call in.... The Expert.

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You'd think he could at least put on a ridiculously long tie with some scotch tape on it.  Sheesh.
 
2017-08-28 05:39:01 PM  

Gotfire: [i.ytimg.com image 850x506]"I'll do the cyber myself then."


"I see you're trying to do the cyber. Would you like help with that?"
 
2017-08-28 05:41:03 PM  
Has Trump ever replaced any of these advisors who left over the past few months? Genuinely curious if he has replaced with his own people or if a lot of advisory groups or staffs are running at half-ability. Only ones that stand out are things like the arts group where he said he was ending it anyhow
 
2017-08-28 05:41:33 PM  

downstairs: I would not work cybersecurity for the government.  I assume: super high risk, super low reward. You make a mistake, it could be a MAJOR PROBLEM.  If you don't mistakes, you get the benefit of a paycheck less than your peers working for corporate America.

/All based on assumption.


Soooo, a former coworker ended up working for the DOD in one of their cyber related entities.  He now lives in a foreign country, in a luxury high rise apartment, with his wife and three kids.  Luxury as in a place where residents drive around the grounds on golf carts provided by the complex, courtesy of the US government.  His wife does not work and they have a nanny.  One of his daughters is enrolled in an international private school, courtesy of the US government.  Been touring the surrounding countries on his generous off time from the government, pretty much free airfare from all the points he's accumulated flying between the US when he has meetings back here, and overseas.  GS-15 mid-level step, so making probably $120k easily, plus a stipend for overseas work.  He's in his mid 30's.

As for job security?  How about never being able to be fired essentially unless you goof up big time.  Like Snowden level.  Meanwhile, he gets to play with tech we don't even know exists.

So, you assume wrong, at least in this case.
 
2017-08-28 05:42:27 PM  
The part about not having attentiveness to the issue and not presenting the strategy on time are just excuses - the federal government not having anything resembling a cyber-security strategy is nothing new. The other two reasons are more likely: 1) him suggesting forming a cybersecurity alliance with RUSSIA (that's just plain embarrasing); and 2) the administration's morally defunct.  Those advisory board positions are supposed to be for boasting and boosting your public visibility - being in any way connected to this President is simplty toxic, so why do it?
 
2017-08-28 05:46:39 PM  

downstairs: I would not work cybersecurity for the government.  I assume: super high risk, super low reward.  You make a mistake, it could be a MAJOR PROBLEM.  If you don't mistakes, you get the benefit of a paycheck less than your peers working for corporate America.

/All based on assumption.


My first job out of college was at a DOD facility.  I hesitate to say it was specific to security but the fact was that EVERYTHING that went on was built on the premise of security.

I was there for five years.  I was there just before the dot-com bubble and out well after it had burst.  Going in I knew I was taking a major hit financially; friends were getting hired at double or triple what I was making and the environment was way more appealing and friendly.  We didn't have rooftop parties or bar takeovers of field trips or free coffee in the break room or stock options or bonuses.

However every job interview I have had since then has had my working there mentioned within the first five minutes.  I know that position has put me in the door at many places because of the nature of it.  I've even had job offers where it was mentioned specifically as a good part of the reason for the offer.

It also allowed me to get a background check and security clearance which put me ahead of other more qualified applicants; no matter how great your skills are if you don't have clearance in some places you're not going to get in the door.

I don't especially miss working where I did.  It was stifling and frustrating.  There were incredibly brilliant minds doing some amazing things.  Some you knew struggled with the constraints of security and knew that free from it they'd revolutionize whatever field they were in.  With others those limitations helped keep them on task.  There were also some folks that amazed me at how their skill set for something that seemed ancient was as honed as it was.  And still there were others that you were certain had naked pictures of someone.  I saw the full spectrum.

Very few of my friends and peers managed to make much of the dot com boom.  One got bought out and got his million and works when he wants to.  The rest are working shmucks like me, some better off and some worse.
 
2017-08-28 05:46:59 PM  
Well guess I should cash out everything and live off the grid now.
 
2017-08-28 05:47:15 PM  

Ghastly: I don't want to see him putting on his robe and wizard hat anyway.


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2017-08-28 05:48:48 PM  
"I was going to disband them anyway after I met with Put... after I realized they're nothing but haters and losers. They wouldn't even help me find Hillary's Benghazi emails."
 
2017-08-28 05:59:58 PM  

Ishkur: It's time to call in.... The Expert.

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I hope I'm laughing with Barron.
 
2017-08-28 06:01:22 PM  
It's a good thing we didn't elect a leader with a private email server, or this could be an issue.
 
2017-08-28 06:04:56 PM  

Munden: Low pay vs private sector, which results in a low-talent environment.
Conflicts of interest/moral responsibility - Your values and the values of the administration may not align.
Drug tests


There are some real creeps that work for the DOD.  "Values" and "morals" are very squishy.  If they want you in, they'll let you in.
 
Ant
2017-08-28 06:07:05 PM  

Ishkur: It's time to call in.... The Expert.

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I think it'd be really funny fark you to Trump if Barron turned out to be a decent human being.
 
2017-08-28 06:09:22 PM  

Lord_Baull: It's a good thing we didn't elect a leader with a private email server, or this could be an issue.


Goofus runs a private email server with a fly-by-night IT guy.

Goofus' retarded, inbred brother who suffered massive brain damage during a critical phase of cognitive develop...

You know what, the point is Trump is a farking moron and the people who voted for him are hopeless jackasses.
 
2017-08-28 06:12:10 PM  

Ant: Ishkur: It's time to call in.... The Expert.

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I think it'd be really funny fark you to Trump if Barron turned out to be a decent human being.


You don't mix up shiat and slightly less repellant shiat in a bowl and get a birthday cake.
 
2017-08-28 06:16:36 PM  

downstairs: I would not work cybersecurity for the government.  I assume: super high risk, super low reward.  You make a mistake, it could be a MAJOR PROBLEM.  If you don't mistakes, you get the benefit of a paycheck less than your peers working for corporate America.

/All based on assumption.


I have friends who do it who make six figures. Though there are a LOT of complaints about poor choices coming from the political higher ups who aren't IT people and competition between agencies. It's not as effective as it could be and that's even before Trump was elected though I assume it's gotten worse as missing many people not in appointed positions
 
2017-08-28 06:16:49 PM  
Take note, Mueller. This is either incompetence or inviting in more Russian attacks. Either way, bad bad.
 
Ant
2017-08-28 06:25:10 PM  

stoli n coke: Ant: Ishkur: It's time to call in.... The Expert.

[img.fark.net image 475x357]

I think it'd be really funny fark you to Trump if Barron turned out to be a decent human being.

You don't mix up shiat and slightly less repellant shiat in a bowl and get a birthday cake.


Ronald Reagan Jr
 
2017-08-28 06:54:49 PM  

HighlanderRPI: A/S/L?


Here you go

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A / Slice of / Lemon
 
2017-08-28 07:05:52 PM  

Sid_6.7: In a group resignation letter, they cited both specific shortfalls in the administration's approach to cybersecurity

[i.imgur.com image 549x371]


Besides hardcore trumpers, I never saw anyone make a point of her e-mails..

Hardcore trumpers were never going to vote for Clinton, so, you didn't "lose" those votes because of e-mails.  You never had them to begin with.  Stop the crying, it's over.  Move forward.
 
2017-08-28 07:08:40 PM  

Mugato: "Make America Strong Again"

"Make America Great Again"

What does that borderline treasonous shiat even mean?

These Shark-Detecting Drones Are Keeping Australian Beaches Safe

That's going to make for some pretty boring movies.


The drones can be taken out by sharks with lasers on their heads.
 
2017-08-28 07:09:54 PM  

DubyaHater: Well. Soiled. Machine.


FTFY
 
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