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(Five Thirty-Eight)   Trump is the ideal candidate for the 1890 presidential election   ( fivethirtyeight.com) divider line
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2017-08-28 01:40:05 PM  
I don't remember running across any other chaotic evil presidents in my studies.
 
2017-08-28 01:48:36 PM  

Garza and the Supermutants: I don't remember running across any other chaotic evil stupid presidents in my studies.


FTFY.

RNC: Stupid Evil
DNC: Stupid Neutral
 
2017-08-28 01:54:57 PM  

Garza and the Supermutants: I don't remember running across any other chaotic evil presidents in my studies.


Really? There's Old Hickory. Or, "The Original Action Jackson". Boy did he make your life miserable if you were an (using the more PC parlance of his day) "Indian" .

More recently, there's Nixon. That's an easy one.
 
2017-08-28 03:43:09 PM  
Then again, we are in The Second Gilded Age.
 
2017-08-28 03:50:38 PM  
There was no 1890 presidential election. Or is that the point?
 
2017-08-28 04:04:09 PM  
Trump / Bill the Butcher 1890
 
2017-08-28 04:51:54 PM  
Well, that makes some sense considering the Republicans are doing their damnest to take us back to that era.
 
2017-08-28 08:50:03 PM  

ImpendingCynic: There was no 1890 presidential election. Or is that the point?


Yeah, I guess there's a joke going over my head right now, but...

/ I could RTFA, I suppose
 
2017-08-28 08:51:55 PM  
We also would have accepted 1888 and 1892.
 
2017-08-28 08:53:21 PM  
and the Dutch.

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2017-08-28 08:54:55 PM  

BMulligan: ImpendingCynic: There was no 1890 presidential election. Or is that the point?

Yeah, I guess there's a joke going over my head right now, but...

/ I could RTFA, I suppose


Don't be silly
 
2017-08-28 08:56:15 PM  
No, Trump is the third place loser when it comes to crawling out of the ocean a billion years ago.
 
2017-08-28 08:57:44 PM  

skozlaw: No, Trump is the third place loser when it comes to crawling out of the ocean a billion years ago.


You mean President trump, the rich guy who has never been punished for anything ever? That guy?
 
2017-08-28 08:58:06 PM  

Destructor: Garza and the Supermutants: I don't remember running across any other chaotic evil presidents in my studies.

Really? There's Old Hickory. Or, "The Original Action Jackson". Boy did he make your life miserable if you were an (using the more PC parlance of his day) "Indian" .

More recently, there's Nixon. That's an easy one.


On the other hand, Jackson told the budding confederate/nullification/"States' Rights" movements at the time to go away. So still better than Trump.
 
2017-08-28 09:02:35 PM  

Kevin72: We also would have accepted 1888 and 1892.


Grover wouldn't have had his tenure split in two if he were running against the Twit in '88 instead of the Iceberg. Then again, back then businessmen were smart enough to just have pet candidates instead of trying to run themselves and having their shiat exposed. They actually LEARNED from seeing relatively "safe" candidates like Blaine get their shiat packed for them.
 
2017-08-28 09:03:58 PM  
*fart noise*
 
2017-08-28 09:08:34 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: Garza and the Supermutants: I don't remember running across any other chaotic evil stupid presidents in my studies.

FTFY.

RNC: Stupid Evil
DNC: Stupid Neutral


Ok.  I'll take stupid neutral a billion times out of a billion.
 
2017-08-28 09:09:36 PM  
Why can't we just fast forward and do the right thing with hopelessly broken piece of soulless human garbage? Forget the party loyalty horseshiat. I don't care about parties - he's hopeless as a human being and he's bringing all of us down with him.
 
2017-08-28 09:10:02 PM  
I keep thinking about how the nation hasn't been so eager to get rid of a shiatty President so early in his first term since John Tyler.

Back then, it was mostly a matter of waiting it out. Today, it's more "pray he doesn't cause nuclear Armageddon."
 
2017-08-28 09:10:14 PM  
He actually doesn't look too horrible in that picture, once the top of his head and his chin have been replaced by that of a real man.
 
2017-08-28 09:13:24 PM  
Trump  probably is using Taft's bathtub.
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2017-08-28 09:17:24 PM  
In the 70s, it was said that Republicans wanted to take us back to the 1950s life of Ozzie and Harriet, and Leave it to Beaver.

Then we got Reagan in the 1980s who idolized Calvin Coolidge, who fired striking policemen in the 1920s, didn't see that coming striking air traffic controllers?

George W. Bush's main achievement was repealing FDR's "We have nothing to fear but fear itself" with terror threat levels announced every day. And I guess also repealing sex education in favor of abstinence only. Until Sarah Palin's daughter got pregnant from abstinence only. Oh, and also repealing Teddy Roosevelt's environmentalism.


Now we got 45 bringing us back to the 1890s. Seems the further in time we progress, the more further back in time each successive GOP president wants to throw us back to.
 
2017-08-28 09:24:23 PM  

Kevin72: George W. Bush's main achievement was...


...the worst economic crash in almost eight decades and losing two wars at the cost of $1T, which led directly to the rise of ISIS and the current disasters in Iraq and Syria.
 
2017-08-28 09:30:57 PM  

Minus1Kelvin: Bith Set Me Up: Garza and the Supermutants: I don't remember running across any other chaotic evil stupid presidents in my studies.

FTFY.

RNC: Stupid Evil
DNC: Stupid Neutral

Ok.  I'll take stupid neutral a billion times out of a billion.


Stupid Evil:

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Stupid Neutral:

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2017-08-28 09:32:04 PM  
I thought he was speed running Zach Taylor's presidency and destroying the Whig Part . . .
 
2017-08-28 09:32:35 PM  

Unbridled Apathy: I thought he was speed running Zach Taylor's presidency and destroying the Whig Part . . .


. . . y.
 
2017-08-28 09:34:29 PM  

Nadie_AZ: skozlaw: No, Trump is the third place loser when it comes to crawling out of the ocean a billion years ago.

You mean President trump, the rich guy who has never been punished for anything ever? That guy?


No, I mean the guy who may or may not be wealthy, but has definitely never faced down anything tougher than a sand trap on his own golf course.

Trump is on par for brains with Happy Gilmore and on spine with a gifelte fish his idiot son-in-law orders on a Friday night at one of his resorts.

Which is meant to imply an insult against Trump for being such a spineless pussy, not his idiot son-in-law for being born Jewish, apologies to his forebears. And his idiot son-in-law.
 
2017-08-28 09:36:06 PM  

skozlaw: Nadie_AZ: skozlaw: No, Trump is the third place loser when it comes to crawling out of the ocean a billion years ago.

You mean President trump, the rich guy who has never been punished for anything ever? That guy?

No, I mean the guy who may or may not be wealthy, but has definitely never faced down anything tougher than a sand trap on his own golf course.

Trump is on par for brains with Happy Gilmore and on spine with a gifelte fish his idiot son-in-law orders on a Friday night at one of his resorts.

Which is meant to imply an insult against Trump for being such a spineless pussy, not his idiot son-in-law for being born Jewish, apologies to his forebears. And his idiot son-in-law.


That's an insult to Happy Gilmore.
 
2017-08-28 09:37:32 PM  
I'm reading a great book about Teddy Roosevelt and William Taft and it goes into great detail about the politics of the day. I can definitely see how Trump would fit in during those days when the "machine" (i.e. the party) ran things and the President held very little sway. Just reading about the uphill fight Roosevelt faced to get ANYTHING done is pretty amazing.
 
2017-08-28 09:48:11 PM  
But her Morse code!!
 
2017-08-28 09:55:05 PM  

jaytkay: Kevin72: George W. Bush's main achievement was...

...the worst economic crash in almost eight decades and losing two wars at the cost of $1T, which led directly to the rise of ISIS and the current disasters in Iraq and Syria.


While there's no denying that happened, it's a question if that was sometimes W intentionally wanted to set the clock back with. The repeal of John Sherman's Anti-Trust Act and Teddy Roosevelt's enforcement of it was picking up steam before GW Bush let it completely de facto happen.

There's the old saying, "Lehman Brothers could even survive the Civil War, but they couldn't survive W's economy".
 
2017-08-28 09:55:38 PM  

Kevin72: In the 70s, it was said that Republicans wanted to take us back to the 1950s life of Ozzie and Harriet, and Leave it to Beaver.

Then we got Reagan in the 1980s who idolized Calvin Coolidge, who fired striking policemen in the 1920s, didn't see that coming striking air traffic controllers?

George W. Bush's main achievement was repealing FDR's "We have nothing to fear but fear itself" with terror threat levels announced every day. And I guess also repealing sex education in favor of abstinence only. Until Sarah Palin's daughter got pregnant from abstinence only. Oh, and also repealing Teddy Roosevelt's environmentalism.


Now we got 45 bringing us back to the 1890s. Seems the further in time we progress, the more further back in time each successive GOP president wants to throw us back to.


And President Pence will dial it back pre-1776 to an effective monarchy and an official State Church.
 
2017-08-28 09:56:46 PM  
Well, that's it. Now I'm seriously on the wrought-iron fence about voting for Donald Trump.
 
2017-08-28 09:57:16 PM  

ambientlush: But her Morse code!!


You... you I like. Well done.
 
2017-08-28 09:57:55 PM  

Weatherkiss: Well, that's it. Now I'm seriously on the wrought-iron fence about voting for Donald Trump.


G*d dammit, not this shiat again...
 
2017-08-28 09:59:54 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: skozlaw: Nadie_AZ: skozlaw: No, Trump is the third place loser when it comes to crawling out of the ocean a billion years ago.

You mean President trump, the rich guy who has never been punished for anything ever? That guy?

No, I mean the guy who may or may not be wealthy, but has definitely never faced down anything tougher than a sand trap on his own golf course.

Trump is on par for brains with Happy Gilmore and on spine with a gifelte fish his idiot son-in-law orders on a Friday night at one of his resorts.

Which is meant to imply an insult against Trump for being such a spineless pussy, not his idiot son-in-law for being born Jewish, apologies to his forebears. And his idiot son-in-law.

That's an insult to Happy Gilmore.


I apologize to Happy Gilmore. He's more like Billy Madison.

Allow me to preemptively apologize to Billy Madison... he's more like the penguin from Billy Madison...

Let me say I'm deeply sorry for the comparison to penguins, he's more like an inanimate ice floe upon which penguins may perch...

I deeply apologize for my comparison to ice floes, Trump is very much like random particles of matter that spring into being to eventually form water, coalescing into frozen particles which, by chance, become a singular floe...

Allow me to walk  back my comment that Trump is as smart as a quantum foam particle born of random chance... literally nothing in all known possible realities is so stupid as to be compared to Trump.

I sincerely apologize for my comparison of Trump to anything possible in our current reality.
 
2017-08-28 10:00:05 PM  
An 1890 Trump candidacy would have included a bunch of Confederate advisors and a platform of repealing Amendments 13-15.
 
2017-08-28 10:01:10 PM  
 
2017-08-28 10:01:53 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: Weatherkiss: Well, that's it. Now I'm seriously on the wrought-iron fence about voting for Donald Trump.

G*d dammit, not this shiat again...


I say that every time I open the Politics Tab. You'll get used to it eventually. :)
 
2017-08-28 10:04:01 PM  
The GOP would settle for the 1950s again.
 
2017-08-28 10:04:01 PM  

lexnaturalis: I'm reading a great book about Teddy Roosevelt and William Taft and it goes into great detail about the politics of the day. I can definitely see how Trump would fit in during those days when the "machine" (i.e. the party) ran things and the President held very little sway. Just reading about the uphill fight Roosevelt faced to get ANYTHING done is pretty amazing.


And yet TR gets credit as the "Trustbuster" for actually enforcing Sherman and breaking up Standard Oil. And founding the national parks. And putting reforms in after Upton Sinclair's The Jungle. And the Panama Canal.
 
2017-08-28 10:06:32 PM  

Weatherkiss: Peter von Nostrand: Weatherkiss: Well, that's it. Now I'm seriously on the wrought-iron fence about voting for Donald Trump.

G*d dammit, not this shiat again...

I say that every time I open the Politics Tab. You'll get used to it eventually. :)


Booooooooooo

BOOOOOOOOOOO

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

/ okay, fine
 
2017-08-28 10:10:28 PM  

Epic Fap Session: An 1890 Trump candidacy would have included a bunch of Confederate advisors and a platform of repealing Amendments 13-15.


And that differs from 2016 Trump how?
 
2017-08-28 10:12:05 PM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: Epic Fap Session: An 1890 Trump candidacy would have included a bunch of Confederate advisors and a platform of repealing Amendments 13-15.

And that differs from 2016 Trump how?


THANK YOU!

I toss up a beautiful alley oop like that and it takes a full ten minutes for the dunk.

You're getting slow, Fark.
 
2017-08-28 10:20:00 PM  

skozlaw: Nadie_AZ: skozlaw: No, Trump is the third place loser when it comes to crawling out of the ocean a billion years ago.

You mean President trump, the rich guy who has never been punished for anything ever? That guy?

No, I mean the guy who may or may not be wealthy, but has definitely never faced down anything tougher than a sand trap on his own golf course.


Is it too late to call for a presidential Mulligan?
 
2017-08-28 10:21:27 PM  

X-Geek: skozlaw: Nadie_AZ: skozlaw: No, Trump is the third place loser when it comes to crawling out of the ocean a billion years ago.

You mean President trump, the rich guy who has never been punished for anything ever? That guy?

No, I mean the guy who may or may not be wealthy, but has definitely never faced down anything tougher than a sand trap on his own golf course.

Is it too late to call for a presidential Mulligan?


If nominated I will not run, if elected I will not serve.
 
2017-08-28 10:48:41 PM  

Kevin72: lexnaturalis: I'm reading a great book about Teddy Roosevelt and William Taft and it goes into great detail about the politics of the day. I can definitely see how Trump would fit in during those days when the "machine" (i.e. the party) ran things and the President held very little sway. Just reading about the uphill fight Roosevelt faced to get ANYTHING done is pretty amazing.

And yet TR gets credit as the "Trustbuster" for actually enforcing Sherman and breaking up Standard Oil. And founding the national parks. And putting reforms in after Upton Sinclair's The Jungle. And the Panama Canal.


Yes. The premise the book is that Roosevelt was so successful because he managed the press so well. His writings indicate that he waited to take action until he had the will of the people behind him, because then he knew that the Congress (or even his own party) wouldn't get in the way.

In other words, he utilized what he called the bully pulpit of the White House.

That wasn't my point though. I wasn't trying to compare TR to Trump, because Roosevelt was a brilliant man who was patient, calculating, and energetic. Trump is none of those things. I was just pointing out that the political machinations at the time (pre-Roosevelt) were ideal for someone like Trump.
 
2017-08-28 10:51:49 PM  
we see this, for instance, in the evolution of the State of the Union, which started as a written message to Congress and has become a nationally televised speech.

oh jesus, Trump's SotU speech is gonna be a farking clown show. He's going to biatch about the fake news and out everybody who's ever been mean to him, and both chambers are going to sit there in dead silence and grave stares as he tantrums against the deep state.

It's going to be glorious and horrifying at the same time.
 
2017-08-28 11:15:46 PM  
Oh. That's when he thinks America was last great.  Been a burning background question for a long time.
 
2017-08-28 11:31:42 PM  

lexnaturalis: Kevin72: lexnaturalis: I'm reading a great book about Teddy Roosevelt and William Taft and it goes into great detail about the politics of the day. I can definitely see how Trump would fit in during those days when the "machine" (i.e. the party) ran things and the President held very little sway. Just reading about the uphill fight Roosevelt faced to get ANYTHING done is pretty amazing.

And yet TR gets credit as the "Trustbuster" for actually enforcing Sherman and breaking up Standard Oil. And founding the national parks. And putting reforms in after Upton Sinclair's The Jungle. And the Panama Canal.

Yes. The premise the book is that Roosevelt was so successful because he managed the press so well. His writings indicate that he waited to take action until he had the will of the people behind him, because then he knew that the Congress (or even his own party) wouldn't get in the way.

In other words, he utilized what he called the bully pulpit of the White House.

That wasn't my point though. I wasn't trying to compare TR to Trump, because Roosevelt was a brilliant man who was patient, calculating, and energetic. Trump is none of those things. I was just pointing out that the political machinations at the time (pre-Roosevelt) were ideal for someone like Trump.


Trump's the anti-Theodore Roosevelt.

Trump: Oldest-inaugurated president.
Roosevelt: Youngest-inaugurated president.

Trump: Dodged the draft.
Roosevelt: Honorably served the country.

Trump: Has sons that proudly hunt.
Roosevelt: Realized how douchey hunting was and stopped.

Trump: Wants greedy businesses out of control.
Roosevelt: Hammered down greedy businesses.
 
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