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(The Hill)   Trump's tax reform plan prioritizes American voters, not lobbyists: An editorial written in crayon by Corey Lewandoski, lobbyist who will benefit from said reform plan   ( thehill.com) divider line
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2017-08-28 07:29:41 AM  
It prioritizes voters? The question is, for what does it prioritize them?
My guess would be highway robbery followed by good solid mugging.
 
2017-08-28 07:37:14 AM  

bloobeary: It prioritizes voters? The question is, for what does it prioritize them?
My guess would be highway robbery followed by good solid mugging.


You're focusing on the wrong word.  The key isn't 'prioritizes', it's 'voters'.

Trump thinks the USA runs under a Vetinari style democracy with one man, one vote.
 
2017-08-28 07:41:57 AM  
Tax cuts?  I thought we were worried about the deficit.  Can't cut taxes if you don't like deficits, I'm afraid.

What is wrong with this guy?
 
2017-08-28 07:59:19 AM  
Prioritizes Democrat voters, maybe. By finding a way to tax them at a higher rate unless you vote the Republican line.

/yes, I know that isn't currently feasible
//oh gee, the govt tried to get voter records with that sort of information?
 
2017-08-28 08:31:59 AM  
Donald's tax plan? Didn't the WH say they're not coming up with one and want Congress to write it?
 
2017-08-28 08:35:52 AM  

grumpfuff: Donald's tax plan? Didn't the WH say they're not coming up with one and want Congress to write it?


(shrug) he's going to take credit for anything that passes regardless, you just know it.
 
2017-08-28 08:41:37 AM  

Ambivalence: grumpfuff: Donald's tax plan? Didn't the WH say they're not coming up with one and want Congress to write it?

(shrug) he's going to take credit for anything that passes regardless, you just know it.


If it fails it was Congress' bill.  If it passes, it's his bill.
 
2017-08-28 09:22:01 AM  

bloobeary: It prioritizes voters? The question is, for what does it prioritize them?
My guess would be highway robbery followed by good solid mugging.


It prioritizes them with crosshairs. Er, I mean 'survey marks'.
 
2017-08-28 09:35:04 AM  
Hahahahahahaha. WTF, no.
 
2017-08-28 10:18:47 AM  
I was watching the Ken Burns documentary about prohibition the other day. Apparently, 75 percent of the US budget came from the booze taxes before the Prohibitionist aholes pushed income tax to weaken the beer companies' role in funding and get rid of them. Obviously, we tax alcohol again now, and the national budget is way bigger, so the idea of this tax covering anywhere near 75 percent is ridiculous... but how about legalizing some more vices and adding those taxes to the mix to lower the income tax burden on the middle class? Let's get weed and look into other drugs, porn and legalized prostitution to take up a bigger part of our government funding.
 
2017-08-28 10:23:57 AM  

Anastacya: Prioritizes Democrat voters, maybe. By finding a way to tax them at a higher rate unless you vote the Republican line.

/yes, I know that isn't currently feasible
//oh gee, the govt tried to get voter records with that sort of information?


Even IF they do vote GOP they'll get screwed.

Last time we got tax cuts, the states raised taxes on the little people via usage taxes, like the cost of getting a driver's license, etc.  And that was BEFORE the 2008/2009 collapse.  I'm sure its only gotten worse since then.  Most states then have to move on to cutting services (hello schools!) after raising fees doesn't work.
 
2017-08-28 10:26:33 AM  

kbronsito: I was watching the Ken Burns documentary about prohibition the other day. Apparently, 75 percent of the US budget came from the booze taxes before the Prohibitionist aholes pushed income tax to weaken the beer companies' role in funding and get rid of them. Obviously, we tax alcohol again now, and the national budget is way bigger, so the idea of this tax covering anywhere near 75 percent is ridiculous... but how about legalizing some more vices and adding those taxes to the mix to lower the income tax burden on the middle class? Let's get weed and look into other drugs, porn and legalized prostitution to take up a bigger part of our government funding.


I understand what you're trying to say, but alcohol and the devil's lettuce aren't really comparable. Nothing bad ever happens when consuming alcohol and there are really no downsides (maybe that ugly person at the bar looks a little less ugly). But wacky tobaccy is a gateway drug. 100% of users will eventually be shot by police in downtown Miami after eating a homeless dude's face. While the taxation and safe regulation of the awful drug might look great, we also have to think of the children.
 
2017-08-28 10:32:05 AM  
"Keyboard, breakfast; breakfast, keyboard."

Damn  you, subby.
 
2017-08-28 10:32:27 AM  
Wait, is there an actual plan now?  Not just a vague idea of what a plan would be?
 
2017-08-28 10:33:08 AM  

BMFPitt: Wait, is there an actual plan now?  Not just a vague idea of what a plan would be?


The plan is to take the vague idea of the plan and turn it into a plan.
 
2017-08-28 10:35:09 AM  
Congress has not done enough this year to implement the Trump agenda.

The Flim Flam Führer's agenda is to line his own pockets and hear the sound of his own name at every opportunity. Congress has done far too much to advance that agenda.
 
2017-08-28 10:35:35 AM  
Trump voters don't care about things that actually affect them. A trans ban for the military, pardoning a racist sheriff, statues, bathrooms, these are the things they care about even they have no affect on their daily lives in the slightest.
 
2017-08-28 10:36:34 AM  

BMFPitt: Wait, is there an actual plan now?  Not just a vague idea of what a plan would be?


Without a concrete plan blueprint the plan is whatever we envision it to be.  The Trump administration is planing on paying for the top cuts by placing a fee on the importation of imported "personal servants".
 
2017-08-28 10:40:47 AM  
I like how his citation that it's s "slam dunk" for the American people links to another of his editorials.
 
2017-08-28 10:45:17 AM  
That sounded a lot like a snowflake whining.
 
2017-08-28 10:46:32 AM  
Should I read it, or will it just cause intestinal distress?
 
2017-08-28 10:46:57 AM  

SharkInfested: Should I read it, or will it just cause intestinal distress?


Yeah
 
2017-08-28 10:47:01 AM  
President Donald J. Trump has proposed a massive tax cut for American families.

Specifically, the Rothschild Family, the Walton Family, the Koch Family, and the Hearst Family.
 
2017-08-28 10:47:09 AM  
Who lobbies the lobbyists?
 
2017-08-28 10:47:13 AM  

qorkfiend: BMFPitt: Wait, is there an actual plan now?  Not just a vague idea of what a plan would be?

The plan is to take the vague idea of the plan and turn it into a plan.


As a reminder, two weeks ago the GOP held a retreat at the Ronald Reagan Ranch to discuss tax reform. This was lost in the noise surrounding DJT's both sides are bad remarks (which was originally a press conference to discuss infrastructure development).

Expect tax reform noise to pick up as more Congressmen return from Recess. Expect a vote in mid-October. Likely items in the omnibus: 1) lowering corporate tax rate 2) removing or reducing the MIT deduction 3) removing or reducing the state tax deduction 4) reducing individual tax rates. Expect this omnibus to fail.
 
2017-08-28 10:48:12 AM  
Marcus Aurelius:

What is wrong with this guy?

Geez, where to start?
 
2017-08-28 10:50:45 AM  
Ooh, lemme guess.  "American taxpayers" only refers to the wealthy since they pay "most" of the "federal" "income" "tax".
 
d23 [BareFark]
2017-08-28 10:54:06 AM  
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2017-08-28 10:54:29 AM  

Karac: bloobeary: It prioritizes voters? The question is, for what does it prioritize them?
My guess would be highway robbery followed by good solid mugging.

You're focusing on the wrong word.  The key isn't 'prioritizes', it's 'voters'.

Trump thinks the USA runs under a Vetinari style democracy with one man, one vote.


Vetinari would have had Trump hanging by his figgin by now.
 
d23 [BareFark]
2017-08-28 10:55:25 AM  

GoodyearPimp: Ooh, lemme guess.  "American taxpayers" only refers to the wealthy since they pay "most" of the "federal" "income" "tax".


Oh, don't forget the HIGHEST CORPORATE TAX RATE IN THE WORLD***

***just forget about the tax breaks that mean GE and other companies have a negative tax rate.

Every time that is said on my TV I am glad I don't have an axe in the house.
 
d23 [BareFark]
2017-08-28 10:56:39 AM  

ihaveaGED: Expect tax reform noise to pick up as more Congressmen return from Recess. Expect a vote in mid-October. Likely items in the omnibus: 1) lowering corporate tax rate 2) removing or reducing the MIT deduction 3) removing or reducing the state tax deduction 4) reducing individual tax rates. Expect this omnibus to fail.


Do the SAME farkING THING over and over and see if the results are different.

Tax the god damn corporations!
 
2017-08-28 10:58:44 AM  

jayhawk88: President Donald J. Trump has proposed a massive tax cut for American families.

Specifically, the Rothschild Family, the Walton Family, the Koch Family, and the Hearst Family.


You forgot Icahn.

Carl Icahn vetted the EPA and SEC nominees.  Is worth noting Icahn owns oil refineries (wants pollution regulations cut) and a big stake in Herbalife (currently under SEC investigation)
 
2017-08-28 10:59:31 AM  
"Is it agin them browns and perverts and uppity women? Then I'm a-fer it! Yeeeeehaw!"

*shooting six-shooters wildly into the air*
 
2017-08-28 11:00:58 AM  
I would say " how stupid does he think we the voters are," but...here we are.
 
2017-08-28 11:01:22 AM  

d23: ihaveaGED: Expect tax reform noise to pick up as more Congressmen return from Recess. Expect a vote in mid-October. Likely items in the omnibus: 1) lowering corporate tax rate 2) removing or reducing the MIT deduction 3) removing or reducing the state tax deduction 4) reducing individual tax rates. Expect this omnibus to fail.

Do the SAME farkING THING over and over and see if the results are different.

Tax the god damn corporations!


There needs to be federally-mandated middle school education on marginal vs. effective tax rates. It's embarrassing how infromed some Americans can be.
 
2017-08-28 11:05:18 AM  

kbronsito: I was watching the Ken Burns documentary about prohibition the other day. Apparently, 75 percent of the US budget came from the booze taxes before the Prohibitionist aholes pushed income tax to weaken the beer companies' role in funding and get rid of them. Obviously, we tax alcohol again now, and the national budget is way bigger, so the idea of this tax covering anywhere near 75 percent is ridiculous... but how about legalizing some more vices and adding those taxes to the mix to lower the income tax burden on the middle class? Let's get weed and look into other drugs, porn and legalized prostitution to take up a bigger part of our government funding.


Describing cannabis as a vice is misguided in my opinion. There are a significant number of medical uses for the substance. I'm with you on prostitution, but I'm not really sure how you yield much tax money on pornography. Most people don't even pay for it...at least from what I've heard.
 
2017-08-28 11:06:57 AM  
They can't get you to buy into it unless they lie to you, after all.
 
2017-08-28 11:07:32 AM  
Lobbyists are voters so he's technically correct
 
2017-08-28 11:07:37 AM  

Pangea: Describing cannabis as a vice is misguided in my opinion. There are a significant number of medical uses for the substance.


Same with alcohol, but let's be realistic.
 
2017-08-28 11:10:16 AM  
Hey look.. I found the truthful part of the article.

FTA: "The truth is that our spineless representatives are more worried about passing shell-game legislation favorable to the tax lobbyists on K Street, rather than tax bills that help the average Jane and Joe."
 
2017-08-28 11:13:18 AM  
"When President Trump won the election, he in effect won the debate on tax cuts. The American people have spoken, and Congress needs to respond ..."


No, you ignorant twat, that would mean the 535 elected members of congress get no input on any votes Trump mentioned in his campaign. That's simply not how this works.

Also, the idea that there are "job creators" is garbage. They have a business plan, and need other people to do the work to make themselves rich. Job creation is an accidental byproduct.
 
2017-08-28 11:14:21 AM  

BMFPitt: Pangea: Describing cannabis as a vice is misguided in my opinion. There are a significant number of medical uses for the substance.

Same with alcohol, but let's be realistic.


Ethyl alcohol has been used for relaxation for thousands of years, but trying to say it has medical benefits comparable to cannabis is just crazy talk, IMO. No doctor suggests booze to treat a chronic medical condition.

/ Chronic for chronic
 
2017-08-28 11:16:07 AM  
I must be honest this who "job creators" line is really irking me a lot. It is like these lying  pieces of crap never studied any capitalist economics. We, the people, are the job creators. This is why giving a tax cut to the poor is vastly more beneficial to the economy then giving it to the rich. Demand creators jobs, not supply, supply just fills jobs.

I mean this is not hard to understand, it is one of the pillars of free market capitalism.
 
2017-08-28 11:18:08 AM  

Scanty Em: "Is it agin them browns and perverts and uppity women? Then I'm a-fer it! Yeeeeehaw!"

*shooting six-shooters wildly into the air*


Yosemite Sarah Palin
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2017-08-28 11:18:09 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Tax cuts?  I thought we were worried about the deficit.  Can't cut taxes if you don't like deficits, I'm afraid.


Step 1 - Cut taxes on the wealthy.
Step 2 - Increase taxes on the poors (for example - eliminate mortgage deductions) thus reducing the deficit.
Step 3 - Profit (if you're wealthy)
 
2017-08-28 11:18:48 AM  

ihaveaGED: I understand what you're trying to say, but alcohol and the devil's lettuce aren't really comparable. Nothing bad ever happens when consuming alcohol and there are really no downsides (maybe that ugly person at the bar looks a little less ugly). But wacky tobaccy is a gateway drug. 100% of users will eventually be shot by police in downtown Miami after eating a homeless dude's face. While the taxation and safe regulation of the awful drug might look great, we also have to think of the children.


Based on what you said legalizing and taxing marijuana is a win/win. First we get tax dollars on the sale, then we get a reduced need for social services when the homeless are attacked and finally we have less of a social security liability when the user is shot and killed.
 
2017-08-28 11:36:50 AM  

recondite cetacean: "When President Trump won the election, he in effect won the debate on tax cuts. The American people have spoken, and Congress needs to respond ..."

No, you ignorant twat, that would mean the 535 elected members of congress get no input on any votes Trump mentioned in his campaign. That's simply not how this works.


That, and the small fact the vast majority of American voters preferred the other candidate and HER approach to taxes more than Trump's.
 
2017-08-28 11:43:52 AM  
By "voters," does this include the supposed millions of illegal voters who stole the popular vote victory from Trump?
 
2017-08-28 11:47:25 AM  

weddingsinger: jayhawk88: President Donald J. Trump has proposed a massive tax cut for American families.

Specifically, the Rothschild Family, the Walton Family, the Koch Family, and the Hearst Family.

You forgot Icahn.

Carl Icahn vetted the EPA and SEC nominees.  Is worth noting Icahn owns oil refineries (wants pollution regulations cut) and a big stake in Herbalife (currently under SEC investigation)


You forgot Trump.
 
2017-08-28 11:50:18 AM  

bloobeary: It prioritizes voters? The question is, for what does it prioritize them?
My guess would be highway robbery followed by good solid mugging.


Original recipe or extra-crispy?
 
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