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(Newsweek)   Weeks before Hurricane Harvey hit, Trump eliminated the flood risk rules put in place by Obama   ( newsweek.com) divider line
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2017-08-27 11:00:04 PM  
Rules that wouldn't be in effect until 2018 and which were to change building codes based on 'climate change' and which were not supported be knowledgeable engineers.

But sure, that isn't fake news.
 
2017-08-27 11:20:57 PM  
That's next year and if we are smart, we should be studying right now what failed in Harvey and how to rebuild better. I'm sympathetic with streamlining the process, but not with kickbacks and shoddy construction. There needs to be robust accounting of what is built and how it's built, and the process works best when everyone agrees with what needs to be done (and isn't lining their pockets).
 
2017-08-27 11:26:16 PM  

feckingmorons: Rules that wouldn't be in effect until 2018 and which were to change building codes based on 'climate change' and which were not supported be knowledgeable engineers.

But sure, that isn't fake news.


You're an engineer now.

Congrats on that.
 
2017-08-27 11:28:13 PM  
MAXIMUM STIGGINIT!
 
2017-08-27 11:31:46 PM  

wejash: feckingmorons: Rules that wouldn't be in effect until 2018 and which were to change building codes based on 'climate change' and which were not supported be knowledgeable engineers.

But sure, that isn't fake news.

You're an engineer now.

Congrats on that.


img.fark.net

*TOOT TOOT*
 
2017-08-27 11:57:21 PM  
I don't know what to say to these stories anymore. So I'm posting this shiat again:

media4.s-nbcnews.com
 
2017-08-27 11:57:35 PM  

feckingmorons: Rules that wouldn't be in effect until 2018 and which were to change building codes based on 'climate change' and which were not supported be knowledgeable engineers.

But sure, that isn't fake news.


Lucky for Texas floods will stop occurring after 2017.
 
2017-08-27 11:58:46 PM  
Headlined like it would help now.
 
2017-08-27 11:59:27 PM  

NewportBarGuy: wejash: feckingmorons: Rules that wouldn't be in effect until 2018 and which were to change building codes based on 'climate change' and which were not supported be knowledgeable engineers.

But sure, that isn't fake news.

You're an engineer now.

Congrats on that.

[img.fark.net image 252x319]

*TOOT TOOT*


blog.beeminder.com
 
2017-08-28 12:00:43 AM  

feckingmorons: Rules that wouldn't be in effect until 2018 and which were to change building codes based on 'climate change' and which were not supported be knowledgeable engineers.

But sure, that isn't fake news.


img.fark.net
You shouldn't smart yourself. Makes you look like a fecking moron
 
2017-08-28 12:00:51 AM  

feckingmorons: Rules that wouldn't be in effect until 2018 and which were to change building codes based on 'climate change' and which were not supported be knowledgeable engineers.

But sure, that isn't fake news.


Fake. You're fake. Feckingmorons I don't deal with you because you're fake. Next!
 
2017-08-28 12:01:54 AM  

NewportBarGuy: wejash: feckingmorons: Rules that wouldn't be in effect until 2018 and which were to change building codes based on 'climate change' and which were not supported be knowledgeable engineers.

But sure, that isn't fake news.

You're an engineer now.

Congrats on that.

[img.fark.net image 252x319]

*TOOT TOOT*


media0.giphy.com
They were poor... they deserved to burn when the chemical plant next door caught fire...
 
2017-08-28 12:02:09 AM  

wejash: feckingmorons: Rules that wouldn't be in effect until 2018 and which were to change building codes based on 'climate change' and which were not supported be knowledgeable engineers.

But sure, that isn't fake news.

You're an engineer now.

Congrats on that.


Regardless of your personal feelings of this poster or his claims, it isn't wrong to say this had no effect on anything to do with this hurricane, at least as far as procedure is concerned.

I figure that's pretty obvious though.if it wasn't to you, now ya know. If you just wanted to pick a fight with the dude, just call him out mang, or at least find a better nit to pick.
 
2017-08-28 12:02:33 AM  
People on Wall Street pay good money by the hour to shart in the boobies like that.
 
2017-08-28 12:02:41 AM  

Paul Hackett: I don't know what to say to these stories anymore. So I'm posting this shiat again:

[media4.s-nbcnews.com image 850x563]


They seem nice.
 
2017-08-28 12:06:17 AM  
Thanks, two scoops!
 
2017-08-28 12:11:24 AM  

feckingmorons: Rules that wouldn't be in effect until 2018 and which were to change building codes based on 'climate change' and which were not supported be knowledgeable engineers.

But sure, that isn't fake news.


media1.giphy.com
 
2017-08-28 12:12:29 AM  

ommurgh: wejash: feckingmorons: Rules that wouldn't be in effect until 2018 and which were to change building codes based on 'climate change' and which were not supported be knowledgeable engineers.

But sure, that isn't fake news.

You're an engineer now.

Congrats on that.

Regardless of your personal feelings of this poster or his claims, it isn't wrong to say this had no effect on anything to do with this hurricane, at least as far as procedure is concerned.

I figure that's pretty obvious though.if it wasn't to you, now ya know. If you just wanted to pick a fight with the dude, just call him out mang, or at least find a better nit to pick.


no, it has no effect on this hurricane or flood, but scrapping the rules implies that speed of permits is more important than flooding, which rarely happens, then immediately that priority assumption is ruthlessly gutted by reality.
 
2017-08-28 12:17:39 AM  
Man every ones acting like that dude said no more hurricanes will happen and trump was amazing to do this is. He didn't. It seems like he may be a dick if all of you are hating this hard, but just be aware you are all deriding him for points he didn't make, just ones you assumed he supported.

Cmon now y'all. If someone a an idiot you can always get them on legitimate reasons. Its sad watch. Stop being so wholly disingenuous. He didn't say it was a good plan or that floods wouldn't happen (that's what Hobbes assumed apparently) then people jumping in on the you aren't an engineer train(which while true doesn't invalidate his point that this didn't affect this situation) the next guy just called him and idiot with no dialogue to back it up. It's just shoddy stuff.

I feel I need to stress my words mean what they say, and aren't indicative of any other of my feelings. I don't mean trumps a god. I don't support people dying. I literally just mean the words I said. And I'm sorry in advance for any reason, and ill be sorry again when it's pointed out to me, truly.
 
2017-08-28 12:18:33 AM  

rwhamann: ommurgh: wejash: feckingmorons: Rules that wouldn't be in effect until 2018 and which were to change building codes based on 'climate change' and which were not supported be knowledgeable engineers.

But sure, that isn't fake news.

You're an engineer now.

Congrats on that.

Regardless of your personal feelings of this poster or his claims, it isn't wrong to say this had no effect on anything to do with this hurricane, at least as far as procedure is concerned.

I figure that's pretty obvious though.if it wasn't to you, now ya know. If you just wanted to pick a fight with the dude, just call him out mang, or at least find a better nit to pick.

no, it has no effect on this hurricane or flood, but scrapping the rules implies that speed of permits is more important than flooding, which rarely happens, then immediately that priority assumption is ruthlessly gutted by reality.


You are correct, but that wasn't really the point of the article or his post.
 
2017-08-28 12:25:24 AM  

feckingmorons: Rules that wouldn't be in effect until 2018 and which were to change building codes based on 'climate change' and which were not supported be knowledgeable engineers.

But sure, that isn't fake news.


Good.  I'm calling my Congresscritters demanding that we NOT pay for anything Harvey related.  They live in hurricane prone areas & build in floodplains.  Obviously they know what their doing & don't need our help.
 
2017-08-28 12:27:34 AM  
Makes sense.  Building a wall on a border defined by a river would be a problem if flood behavior were considered.  The wall is the only infrastructure project Trump will ever be associated with.
 
2017-08-28 12:29:14 AM  
Well it looks like Texas got what it asked for. Less government intrusion and fewer federal regulations. Hey trumptards: lemme know when my box of thoughts and prayers and bootstraps gets there lmao.
 
2017-08-28 12:42:25 AM  
Quickly forgotten.
 
stk [TotalFark]
2017-08-28 12:44:27 AM  
In his defense though, you know, Obama.
 
2017-08-28 12:49:17 AM  
The United States of America. Circling the drain since November 2016.
 
2017-08-28 12:55:37 AM  
This is nothing.  You are about to witness the biggest body count cover up and ratings rebound in presidential history.  Hold on to your lunch, its about to get a lot worse.  Houston is a liberal city.  The entire country full of republicans are about to blame the entire Democratic party for everything happening there right now, and they are going to get away with it because thats the farked up country we live in.
 
2017-08-28 12:57:10 AM  

wejash: feckingmorons: Rules that wouldn't be in effect until 2018 and which were to change building codes based on 'climate change' and which were not supported be knowledgeable engineers.

But sure, that isn't fake news.

You're an engineer now.

Congrats on that.


Hey now, Give fecking a break, he apparently has more degrees than a brown dwarf star. More added with every crisis.
 
2017-08-28 12:57:51 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-08-28 12:58:18 AM  

feckingmorons: Rules that wouldn't be in effect until 2018 and which were to change building codes based on 'climate change' and which were not supported be knowledgeable engineers.

But sure, that isn't fake news.


Oh look, a fecking moron who has no idea what he's talking about. I really wish handlers would keep better track of their morons. They make such a mess spewing sh*t everywhere trying to sound like they know what they're talking about.
 
2017-08-28 01:01:05 AM  

ommurgh: You are correct, but that wasn't really the point of the article or his post.


You make the assumption we give a shat what the article or this feckless dweeb posting are trying to point out. So when the NEXT hurricane comes next year, can we blame Trumpo then? Assuming he's around to blame?

He got rid of rules meant to help flooding. Wether they helped or not in this particular instance is irrelevant. What matters is this guy can't see beyond "Obama did it, UNDO IT."
 
2017-08-28 01:04:07 AM  
Every headline for Trump should begin with, "Here's Who He Farked Today and How - The Why is Always Obvious".

It would save a lot of typing time in the long run.
 
2017-08-28 01:05:51 AM  

ommurgh: Man every ones acting like that dude said no more hurricanes will happen and trump was amazing to do this is. He didn't. It seems like he may be a dick if all of you are hating this hard, but just be aware you are all deriding him for points he didn't make, just ones you assumed he supported.

Cmon now y'all. If someone a an idiot you can always get them on legitimate reasons. Its sad watch. Stop being so wholly disingenuous. He didn't say it was a good plan or that floods wouldn't happen (that's what Hobbes assumed apparently) then people jumping in on the you aren't an engineer train(which while true doesn't invalidate his point that this didn't affect this situation) the next guy just called him and idiot with no dialogue to back it up. It's just shoddy stuff.

I feel I need to stress my words mean what they say, and aren't indicative of any other of my feelings. I don't mean trumps a god. I don't support people dying. I literally just mean the words I said. And I'm sorry in advance for any reason, and ill be sorry again when it's pointed out to me, truly.


You've made a couple of really stupid posts this evening - and I want you to think about what you've done, and not do it again.
 
2017-08-28 01:07:57 AM  

ommurgh: Man every ones acting like that dude said no more hurricanes will happen and trump was amazing to do this is. He didn't. It seems like he may be a dick if all of you are hating this hard, but just be aware you are all deriding him for points he didn't make, just ones you assumed he supported.

Cmon now y'all. If someone a an idiot you can always get them on legitimate reasons. Its sad watch. Stop being so wholly disingenuous. He didn't say it was a good plan or that floods wouldn't happen (that's what Hobbes assumed apparently) then people jumping in on the you aren't an engineer train(which while true doesn't invalidate his point that this didn't affect this situation) the next guy just called him and idiot with no dialogue to back it up. It's just shoddy stuff.

I feel I need to stress my words mean what they say, and aren't indicative of any other of my feelings. I don't mean trumps a god. I don't support people dying. I literally just mean the words I said. And I'm sorry in advance for any reason, and ill be sorry again when it's pointed out to me, truly.


None of the three points he made were factual. If someone is willing to be such a f*cking dumbsh*t and lie like that, they deserve all the vitriol they get.
 
2017-08-28 01:19:25 AM  
Trump hasn't been in power a year. Far more to blame are GOP congressmen who refused to allow appropriations for reinforcement if structures like this---for fear Obama would get the credit.
 
2017-08-28 01:26:31 AM  
Of all of the things Trump has done that I hate this isn't one of them. His belief was that the rules would slow down the ability to upgrade the national infrastructure. Considering the fact that the older infrastructure wasn't built under these rules means at least we would have newer infrastructure in place which theoretically would be better than the existing. I am not saying that getting rid of the rules is a good thing it is in my mind something that is more nuanced and would need further investigation instead of yelling Trump bad.  As much as I like yelling Trump bad
 
2017-08-28 01:30:45 AM  

rummonkey: wejash: feckingmorons: Rules that wouldn't be in effect until 2018 and which were to change building codes based on 'climate change' and which were not supported be knowledgeable engineers.

But sure, that isn't fake news.

You're an engineer now.

Congrats on that.

Hey now, Give fecking a break, he apparently has more degrees than a brown dwarf star. More added with every crisis.


Credit where credit is due, apparently he has his very own White Knight now, too
 
2017-08-28 01:33:53 AM  

dambis: His belief was that the rules would slow down the ability to upgrade the national infrastructure.


No. This was about developer complaints about floodplain classification expansion and the requirement to take future climate change effects into consideration. You do see how that requirement is, in itself, infrastructure upgrade, yes?
 
2017-08-28 01:37:31 AM  
I am wondering what happens if events like this hurricane become more the norm than the exception because having that part of the country get swamped every five or six years is unsustainable. They can build homes that are on stilts or pylons, ten to fifteen feet in the air, so they don't get flooded but I would imagine the cost of doing so would be prohibitive for many.
 
2017-08-28 01:41:20 AM  
'climate change', lol.
 
2017-08-28 01:45:29 AM  

LessO2: [img.fark.net image 646x640]


Horrible human tragedy aside, I like you.
 
2017-08-28 01:50:38 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-08-28 01:54:46 AM  

DubyaHater: feckingmorons: Rules that wouldn't be in effect until 2018 and which were to change building codes based on 'climate change' and which were not supported be knowledgeable engineers.

But sure, that isn't fake news.

[img.fark.net image 316x257]
You shouldn't smart yourself. Makes you look like a fecking moron


Heeey. Ain't that the guy from Fast Times at Ridgemont High?
 
2017-08-28 02:00:08 AM  

LessO2: [img.fark.net image 646x640]


Here's an interesting article about price gouging during Harvey:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2017/08/27/hurricane-harvey-​i​s-when-we-need-price-gouging-not-laws-against-it/#8e12dae13fa9

The economics of this is really terribly, terribly, simple. As a result of the disaster--of any disaster that is--some things are in short supply. Perhaps because some of the supply got damaged, or perhaps because people need to substitute. Floods could, for example, knock out the municipal water supply, leaving people needing bottled water. So relative to the available supply demand has risen. We now need some method of rationing that limited and scarce supply over that increased demand. Rationing by price is always the efficient way of doing this.
We also want something else to happen--we want supply to increase as fast as we can manage that. As we know from our basic Econ 101 supply and demand curves the way to increase supply is for the price to increase. We want, for example, people to start trucking bottled water from Louisiana to Texas. More money to be made by doing so will encourage people to do so. And as that extra supply arrives then prices will go down again as demand is met.


However, water is probably not the best example since people die without it. Plus there's the realities of imperfect markets such as distribution problems and incomplete knowledge of the market. Until the price/supply of everything at every store is made instantly public there's going to be inefficiencies in the market.
 
2017-08-28 02:05:08 AM  
A few facts compiled by Morten Øverbye on Twitter in response to the Twit-in-chief's tweet...
"HISTORIC rainfall in Houston, and all over Texas. Floods are unprecedented, and more rain coming. Spirit of the people is incredible.Thanks!"

-Revoked Obama's executive order 13690 on establishing a federal flood risk management standard and process on August 15th.
-Budget cut FEMA by 11%. There is still no permanent FEMA Administrator.
-Budget cut the Coast Guard by 15%.
-Budget cut NOAA by 22%
 
2017-08-28 02:26:29 AM  
Speaking from New York when he announced the rollback of the rules on Tuesday, August 15, Trump said: "We're going to get infrastructure built quickly, inexpensively, relatively speaking, and the permitting process will go very, very quickly."
The executive order signed by Trump also gives a two-year time limit for the permits to be completed for major infrastructure projects, which includes environmental reviews on such proposals.


And of course he is going to play the roll of a sheitbag developer who is only interested in getting his project done quickly and cheaply, to maximize profits, rather than built properly and with full consideration of studies and permits. This is something very dear to his heart, naturally.
It's like giving fish an aquarium and telling them not to shiat in it...

/and he won't own up to any problematic work either, if his fat ass is even still alive then
 
2017-08-28 02:46:40 AM  

feckingmorons: Rules that wouldn't be in effect until 2018 and which were to change building codes based on 'climate change' and which were not supported be knowledgeable engineers.

But sure, that isn't fake news.


So we'll stick you in the "planning for the future is a liberal conspiracy" column then.
 
2017-08-28 03:29:22 AM  
Hopefully all of these republicans in Texas didn't lose their bootstraps in the storm surge.
 
2017-08-28 05:06:59 AM  

feckingmorons: Rules that wouldn't be in effect until 2018 and which were to change building codes based on 'climate change' and which were not supported be knowledgeable engineers.

But sure, that isn't fake news.


Because there won't be any hurricanes next year or ever, right?
 
2017-08-28 05:42:21 AM  

feckingmorons: Rules that wouldn't be in effect until 2018 and which were to change building codes based on 'climate change' and which were not supported be knowledgeable engineers.

But sure, that isn't fake news.


Yes the purpose of articles like this is to distract everyone from what the Democratic mayor of Houston did and didn't do before the hurricane.
 
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