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(Talking Points Memo)   So, what does Arizona's largest newspaper think of Trump's pardon of Joe Arpaio? Oh, dear   ( talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line
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2017-08-27 06:14:29 AM  
Trump should pardon Hillary.
 
2017-08-27 07:40:44 AM  
You can't be pardoned for something you didn't do. Trump acknowledges Arpaio's guilt in the situation. Trump is either blissfully unaware or worse, relishing in the fact that he has carte blanche in determining the outcome of a person's life for good or bad.

"Fasten your seatbelts; it's going to be a bumpy night."
 
2017-08-27 07:48:48 AM  
don't kid yourselves - the GOP elites are watching how this plays out and aren't going to let trump pick 'em off one state at a time.
 
2017-08-27 07:49:04 AM  
Dammit subby, is it too much to ask to link to the Arizona paper in question, instead of TPM?
 
2017-08-27 08:00:01 AM  
...if only there had been some way to predict Donnie's heel turn BEFORE the election...if only there had been some clues to his nature...

DID THESE PEOPLE NOT HEAR THE WORDS THAT ACTUALLY CAME OUT OF THIS TANGERINE SH*T GIBBON FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR BEFORE?
 
2017-08-27 08:13:08 AM  
It makes little difference what newspapers or anyone says about the racist government.  In time some new outrage distracts and the old outrage becomes the status quo.
The GOP has made Fait Accompli an art form.
 
2017-08-27 08:14:28 AM  
It was a cunning plan, pissing off the fastest growing demographic by cozying up to abject racism.  There were many discussions last year on the probability of Arizona and Texas turning purple and blue because of the Hispanic populations.  Trump just sped up that process which is why Sen. McCain and Flake are pissed while Trump further makes matters worse by backing hard right Flake challengers.

My only question now is how will Democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory this time?
 
2017-08-27 08:15:11 AM  
 
2017-08-27 08:15:18 AM  

grumpfuff: Dammit subby, is it too much to ask to link to the Arizona paper in question, instead of TPM?


I prefer to read an unnafilliated journalist's tweet summarizing the TPM article that summarizes a linked video that summarizes the original article.
 
2017-08-27 08:16:35 AM  

hubiestubert: ...if only there had been some way to predict Donnie's heel turn BEFORE the election...if only there had been some clues to his nature...

DID THESE PEOPLE NOT HEAR THE WORDS THAT ACTUALLY CAME OUT OF THIS TANGERINE SH*T GIBBON FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR BEFORE?


You mean the entire 70 years?

That's what I don't get. If you asked any of these mouth breathers ten or even five years ago what they thought of Trump they'd have said he's a rich, out of touch buffoon.

So do they think he was secretly our savior in waiting this whole time just waiting until America needed him most or did he take a level in 'Murka a year ago?
 
2017-08-27 08:19:05 AM  

hubiestubert: ...if only there had been some way to predict Donnie's heel turn BEFORE the election...if only there had been some clues to his nature...

DID THESE PEOPLE NOT HEAR THE WORDS THAT ACTUALLY CAME OUT OF THIS TANGERINE SH*T GIBBON FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR BEFORE?


They all heard. I just think their ears are wired backwards.
 
2017-08-27 08:19:35 AM  

Koodz: hubiestubert: ...if only there had been some way to predict Donnie's heel turn BEFORE the election...if only there had been some clues to his nature...

DID THESE PEOPLE NOT HEAR THE WORDS THAT ACTUALLY CAME OUT OF THIS TANGERINE SH*T GIBBON FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR BEFORE?

You mean the entire 70 years?

That's what I don't get. If you asked any of these mouth breathers ten or even five years ago what they thought of Trump they'd have said he's a rich, out of touch buffoon.

So do they think he was secretly our savior in waiting this whole time just waiting until America needed him most or did he take a level in 'Murka a year ago?


Well, in fairness, back then he was a Democrat.
 
2017-08-27 08:20:47 AM  

hubiestubert: ...if only there had been some way to predict Donnie's heel turn BEFORE the election...if only there had been some clues to his nature...

DID THESE PEOPLE NOT HEAR THE WORDS THAT ACTUALLY CAME OUT OF THIS TANGERINE SH*T GIBBON FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR BEFORE?


There are people, lots of people, who (up until VERY recently) firmly believed that "both sides were bad" and "both sides were the same".  They DIDN'T hear the shiat that Trump was saying.  They don't watch the news.  They don't follow politics.  They don't care.  The only thing they knew about the election was stuff barely noticed at the edges of their consciousness.

And they went to the polls and cast their vote for the person who didn't seem to be part of their of the "both sides" which are bad.

The full-on racist assholes probably make up a pretty small percentage of Americans.  But the people who just don't give a shiat, can't be bothered to learn, or are otherwise ignorant...  They're the ones who handed Trump the victory.  And the sad thing is, unless something happens that they can't possibly ignore, something that adversely impacts them in a major, negative way...they'll continue on as before.
 
2017-08-27 08:22:58 AM  

Summoner101: Koodz: hubiestubert: ...if only there had been some way to predict Donnie's heel turn BEFORE the election...if only there had been some clues to his nature...

DID THESE PEOPLE NOT HEAR THE WORDS THAT ACTUALLY CAME OUT OF THIS TANGERINE SH*T GIBBON FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR BEFORE?

You mean the entire 70 years?

That's what I don't get. If you asked any of these mouth breathers ten or even five years ago what they thought of Trump they'd have said he's a rich, out of touch buffoon.

So do they think he was secretly our savior in waiting this whole time just waiting until America needed him most or did he take a level in 'Murka a year ago?

Well, in fairness, back then he was a Democrat.


Someone post the "he said he was gonna" comic and get the lights, we're done here.
 
2017-08-27 08:26:48 AM  

Summoner101: It was a cunning plan, pissing off the fastest growing demographic by cozying up to abject racism.  There were many discussions last year on the probability of Arizona and Texas turning purple and blue because of the Hispanic populations.  Trump just sped up that process which is why Sen. McCain and Flake are pissed while Trump further makes matters worse by backing hard right Flake challengers.

My only question now is how will Democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory this time?


Maybe we should start by not assuming they're going to lose
 
2017-08-27 08:28:25 AM  

qorkfiend: Summoner101: It was a cunning plan, pissing off the fastest growing demographic by cozying up to abject racism.  There were many discussions last year on the probability of Arizona and Texas turning purple and blue because of the Hispanic populations.  Trump just sped up that process which is why Sen. McCain and Flake are pissed while Trump further makes matters worse by backing hard right Flake challengers.

My only question now is how will Democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory this time?

Maybe we should start by not assuming they're going to lose


How'd that work last year?
 
2017-08-27 08:28:34 AM  

qorkfiend: Summoner101: It was a cunning plan, pissing off the fastest growing demographic by cozying up to abject racism.  There were many discussions last year on the probability of Arizona and Texas turning purple and blue because of the Hispanic populations.  Trump just sped up that process which is why Sen. McCain and Flake are pissed while Trump further makes matters worse by backing hard right Flake challengers.

My only question now is how will Democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory this time?

Maybe we should start by not assuming they're going to lose


No no, that was our mistake last time.
 
2017-08-27 08:29:29 AM  
America is third most populated country on planet. Is very powerful with economy and military.

Why are there only two political parties? Is not real democracy, is it?
 
2017-08-27 08:30:55 AM  

italie: hubiestubert: ...if only there had been some way to predict Donnie's heel turn BEFORE the election...if only there had been some clues to his nature...

DID THESE PEOPLE NOT HEAR THE WORDS THAT ACTUALLY CAME OUT OF THIS TANGERINE SH*T GIBBON FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR BEFORE?

They all heard. I just think their ears are wired backwards.


I think all they heard was President Hillary and shat themselves because of 30 years of fox news telling them she was the debil.
 
2017-08-27 08:31:05 AM  

Summoner101: qorkfiend: Summoner101: It was a cunning plan, pissing off the fastest growing demographic by cozying up to abject racism.  There were many discussions last year on the probability of Arizona and Texas turning purple and blue because of the Hispanic populations.  Trump just sped up that process which is why Sen. McCain and Flake are pissed while Trump further makes matters worse by backing hard right Flake challengers.

My only question now is how will Democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory this time?

Maybe we should start by not assuming they're going to lose

How'd that work last year?


You believe that since the Democrats lost one election, we should assume they will lose every election and somehow this will accomplish...what, exactly?
 
2017-08-27 08:31:11 AM  

Far Cough: qorkfiend: Summoner101: It was a cunning plan, pissing off the fastest growing demographic by cozying up to abject racism.  There were many discussions last year on the probability of Arizona and Texas turning purple and blue because of the Hispanic populations.  Trump just sped up that process which is why Sen. McCain and Flake are pissed while Trump further makes matters worse by backing hard right Flake challengers.

My only question now is how will Democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory this time?

Maybe we should start by not assuming they're going to lose

No no, that was our mistake last time.


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2017-08-27 08:34:58 AM  

Summoner101: Far Cough: qorkfiend: Summoner101: It was a cunning plan, pissing off the fastest growing demographic by cozying up to abject racism.  There were many discussions last year on the probability of Arizona and Texas turning purple and blue because of the Hispanic populations.  Trump just sped up that process which is why Sen. McCain and Flake are pissed while Trump further makes matters worse by backing hard right Flake challengers.

My only question now is how will Democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory this time?

Maybe we should start by not assuming they're going to lose

No no, that was our mistake last time.

[img.fark.net image 320x212]


Exactly, we missed the election by That much because of overconfidence and a historically unappealing candidate.  Let us do MUCH better by being smarter and choosier next time.
 
2017-08-27 08:35:23 AM  

qorkfiend: Summoner101: qorkfiend: Summoner101: It was a cunning plan, pissing off the fastest growing demographic by cozying up to abject racism.  There were many discussions last year on the probability of Arizona and Texas turning purple and blue because of the Hispanic populations.  Trump just sped up that process which is why Sen. McCain and Flake are pissed while Trump further makes matters worse by backing hard right Flake challengers.

My only question now is how will Democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory this time?

Maybe we should start by not assuming they're going to lose

How'd that work last year?

You believe that since the Democrats lost one election, we should assume they will lose every election and somehow this will accomplish...what, exactly?


The Democrats have a pretty solid track record of thinking they have an election in the bag (2000, 2004, 2016, various Senate/House races) and resting on their laurels thinking they don't have to campaign where it counts.  There's a lot to be said for not interrupting your opponent when he's making a mistake, but that should still be an active decision with a comprehensive strategy on what you do when your opponent shuts up or is instead dominating the news cycle.

If anything it's not an admission of defeat rather a reminder for vigilance.
 
2017-08-27 08:35:58 AM  

Far Cough: Summoner101: Far Cough: qorkfiend: Summoner101: It was a cunning plan, pissing off the fastest growing demographic by cozying up to abject racism.  There were many discussions last year on the probability of Arizona and Texas turning purple and blue because of the Hispanic populations.  Trump just sped up that process which is why Sen. McCain and Flake are pissed while Trump further makes matters worse by backing hard right Flake challengers.

My only question now is how will Democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory this time?

Maybe we should start by not assuming they're going to lose

No no, that was our mistake last time.

[img.fark.net image 320x212]

Exactly, we missed the election by That much because of overconfidence and a historically unappealing candidate.  Let us do MUCH better by being smarter and choosier next time.


It was more a reference to the near simulpost.
 
2017-08-27 08:36:32 AM  

Summoner101: qorkfiend: Summoner101: qorkfiend: Summoner101: It was a cunning plan, pissing off the fastest growing demographic by cozying up to abject racism.  There were many discussions last year on the probability of Arizona and Texas turning purple and blue because of the Hispanic populations.  Trump just sped up that process which is why Sen. McCain and Flake are pissed while Trump further makes matters worse by backing hard right Flake challengers.

My only question now is how will Democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory this time?

Maybe we should start by not assuming they're going to lose

How'd that work last year?

You believe that since the Democrats lost one election, we should assume they will lose every election and somehow this will accomplish...what, exactly?

The Democrats have a pretty solid track record of thinking they have an election in the bag (2000, 2004, 2016, various Senate/House races) and resting on their laurels thinking they don't have to campaign where it counts.  There's a lot to be said for not interrupting your opponent when he's making a mistake, but that should still be an active decision with a comprehensive strategy on what you do when your opponent shuts up or is instead dominating the news cycle.

If anything it's not an admission of defeat rather a reminder for vigilance.


"Thinking they will definitely win" is not even remotely equivalent to "thinking they will definitely lose".
 
2017-08-27 08:37:14 AM  

Summoner101: qorkfiend: Summoner101: qorkfiend: Summoner101: It was a cunning plan, pissing off the fastest growing demographic by cozying up to abject racism.  There were many discussions last year on the probability of Arizona and Texas turning purple and blue because of the Hispanic populations.  Trump just sped up that process which is why Sen. McCain and Flake are pissed while Trump further makes matters worse by backing hard right Flake challengers.

My only question now is how will Democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory this time?

Maybe we should start by not assuming they're going to lose

How'd that work last year?

You believe that since the Democrats lost one election, we should assume they will lose every election and somehow this will accomplish...what, exactly?

The Democrats have a pretty solid track record of thinking they have an election in the bag (2000, 2004, 2016, various Senate/House races) and resting on their laurels thinking they don't have to campaign where it counts.  There's a lot to be said for not interrupting your opponent when he's making a mistake, but that should still be an active decision with a comprehensive strategy on what you do when your opponent shuts up or is instead dominating the news cycle.

If anything it's not an admission of defeat rather a reminder for vigilance.


"Assuming they will lose" is absolutely an admission of defeat. Stop trying to tell yourself otherwise.
 
2017-08-27 08:37:54 AM  

Summoner101: Far Cough: Summoner101: Far Cough: qorkfiend: Summoner101: It was a cunning plan, pissing off the fastest growing demographic by cozying up to abject racism.  There were many discussions last year on the probability of Arizona and Texas turning purple and blue because of the Hispanic populations.  Trump just sped up that process which is why Sen. McCain and Flake are pissed while Trump further makes matters worse by backing hard right Flake challengers.

My only question now is how will Democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory this time?

Maybe we should start by not assuming they're going to lose

No no, that was our mistake last time.

[img.fark.net image 320x212]

Exactly, we missed the election by That much because of overconfidence and a historically unappealing candidate.  Let us do MUCH better by being smarter and choosier next time.

It was more a reference to the near simulpost.


Yeah I know but mistakenly thought I was responding to the other guy and lost my sense of humor, sorry.
 
2017-08-27 08:38:40 AM  

hubiestubert: ...if only there had been some way to predict Donnie's heel turn BEFORE the election...if only there had been some clues to his nature...

DID THESE PEOPLE NOT HEAR THE WORDS THAT ACTUALLY CAME OUT OF THIS TANGERINE SH*T GIBBON FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR BEFORE?


img.fark.net
 
2017-08-27 08:38:50 AM  

qorkfiend: Summoner101: qorkfiend: Summoner101: qorkfiend: Summoner101: It was a cunning plan, pissing off the fastest growing demographic by cozying up to abject racism.  There were many discussions last year on the probability of Arizona and Texas turning purple and blue because of the Hispanic populations.  Trump just sped up that process which is why Sen. McCain and Flake are pissed while Trump further makes matters worse by backing hard right Flake challengers.

My only question now is how will Democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory this time?

Maybe we should start by not assuming they're going to lose

How'd that work last year?

You believe that since the Democrats lost one election, we should assume they will lose every election and somehow this will accomplish...what, exactly?

The Democrats have a pretty solid track record of thinking they have an election in the bag (2000, 2004, 2016, various Senate/House races) and resting on their laurels thinking they don't have to campaign where it counts.  There's a lot to be said for not interrupting your opponent when he's making a mistake, but that should still be an active decision with a comprehensive strategy on what you do when your opponent shuts up or is instead dominating the news cycle.

If anything it's not an admission of defeat rather a reminder for vigilance.

"Assuming they will lose" is absolutely an admission of defeat. Stop trying to tell yourself otherwise.


You really don't get this?  It's an ironic call to be more vigilant and aware, not a concession.
 
2017-08-27 08:42:01 AM  

Koodz: hubiestubert: ...if only there had been some way to predict Donnie's heel turn BEFORE the election...if only there had been some clues to his nature...

DID THESE PEOPLE NOT HEAR THE WORDS THAT ACTUALLY CAME OUT OF THIS TANGERINE SH*T GIBBON FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR BEFORE?

You mean the entire 70 years?

That's what I don't get. If you asked any of these mouth breathers ten or even five years ago what they thought of Trump they'd have said he's a rich, out of touch buffoon.

So do they think he was secretly our savior in waiting this whole time just waiting until America needed him most or did he take a level in 'Murka a year ago?


I had no idea who Trump was 15 years ago.

But hello, have you read anything about what Trump supporters like about Trump? Their answer is basically Trump talks like they do, acts like they do, insults people they wish they could insult, hates the people they hate, and beats his chest like a gorilla. They hate "The establishment" and "the elites"* and Trump is THE outsider. He promised to punish anyone who ever sneered at them and made fun of them--other countries, Democrats, the establishment GOP, everybody. Trump can accomplish nothing for 4 years and there will be people who are happy with him simply because he pissed off liberals and RINOs. It's proof any time Trump goes on a tear and makes an absolute ass of himself, his approval goes UP with these people.

But mainly, suckers want to be suckered. Remember the phrase "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but not all the people all the time"? Trump voters are the "some" you can fool all the time.

But you want to do an experiment? Take the most ridiculous celebrity off the list. Then walk up to a Trumper and ask them what they think of the celebrity. Then, when done, say "Did you know he said that liberals should be pissed on?" And watch the Trumper's approval of that celebrity go up 300%. Trump has an R next to his name, and for a lot of people, that's all that matters. He's their guy.

*Yes, I'm aware that Trump is also an elite in the sense that he's a billionaire. But when people use "elites", really they're sneering at smug smart sophisticated city folk.
 
2017-08-27 08:42:47 AM  

ComradeIvan: America is third most populated country on planet. Is very powerful with economy and military.

Why are there only two political parties? Is not real democracy, is it?


Here's the real important question: Why does the United States have political parties? Try to find political parties in the US Constitution. Extra bonus: Name the only president who wasn't a member of a political party. Super extra bonus: Quote his remarks/ warnings about political parties .
 
2017-08-27 08:43:57 AM  
I feel a poem coming on...
www.womenscouncil.org

People in the know

Like Sheriff Joe

.

Unless they are not white

In that case liking him isn't very bright

.

Because he panics

the Hispanics

.

It's just that Sheriff Joe

Wants to bring back Jim Crow...

.

Burma Shave

 
2017-08-27 08:44:45 AM  

qorkfiend: Summoner101: qorkfiend: Summoner101: qorkfiend: Summoner101: It was a cunning plan, pissing off the fastest growing demographic by cozying up to abject racism.  There were many discussions last year on the probability of Arizona and Texas turning purple and blue because of the Hispanic populations.  Trump just sped up that process which is why Sen. McCain and Flake are pissed while Trump further makes matters worse by backing hard right Flake challengers.

My only question now is how will Democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory this time?

Maybe we should start by not assuming they're going to lose

How'd that work last year?

You believe that since the Democrats lost one election, we should assume they will lose every election and somehow this will accomplish...what, exactly?

The Democrats have a pretty solid track record of thinking they have an election in the bag (2000, 2004, 2016, various Senate/House races) and resting on their laurels thinking they don't have to campaign where it counts.  There's a lot to be said for not interrupting your opponent when he's making a mistake, but that should still be an active decision with a comprehensive strategy on what you do when your opponent shuts up or is instead dominating the news cycle.

If anything it's not an admission of defeat rather a reminder for vigilance.

"Thinking they will definitely win" is not even remotely equivalent to "thinking they will definitely lose".


Don't be ridiculous. Trump is incredibly awful, the next Democratic candidate is going to win, guaranteed.

The DNC needs to run a Clinton/Wasserman-Schultz ticket in 2020. Voters will be incredibly, indescribably eager to make history by undoing the mistake of 2016, and electing the first female President and Vice-president all at once.

Clinton/Wasserman-Schultz: because hindsight is 20/20
 
2017-08-27 08:46:07 AM  

qorkfiend: Summoner101: qorkfiend: Summoner101: qorkfiend: Summoner101: It was a cunning plan, pissing off the fastest growing demographic by cozying up to abject racism.  There were many discussions last year on the probability of Arizona and Texas turning purple and blue because of the Hispanic populations.  Trump just sped up that process which is why Sen. McCain and Flake are pissed while Trump further makes matters worse by backing hard right Flake challengers.

My only question now is how will Democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory this time?

Maybe we should start by not assuming they're going to lose

How'd that work last year?

You believe that since the Democrats lost one election, we should assume they will lose every election and somehow this will accomplish...what, exactly?

The Democrats have a pretty solid track record of thinking they have an election in the bag (2000, 2004, 2016, various Senate/House races) and resting on their laurels thinking they don't have to campaign where it counts.  There's a lot to be said for not interrupting your opponent when he's making a mistake, but that should still be an active decision with a comprehensive strategy on what you do when your opponent shuts up or is instead dominating the news cycle.

If anything it's not an admission of defeat rather a reminder for vigilance.

"Assuming they will lose" is absolutely an admission of defeat. Stop trying to tell yourself otherwise.


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2017-08-27 08:46:08 AM  

Summoner101: Koodz: hubiestubert: ...if only there had been some way to predict Donnie's heel turn BEFORE the election...if only there had been some clues to his nature...

DID THESE PEOPLE NOT HEAR THE WORDS THAT ACTUALLY CAME OUT OF THIS TANGERINE SH*T GIBBON FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR BEFORE?

You mean the entire 70 years?

That's what I don't get. If you asked any of these mouth breathers ten or even five years ago what they thought of Trump they'd have said he's a rich, out of touch buffoon.

So do they think he was secretly our savior in waiting this whole time just waiting until America needed him most or did he take a level in 'Murka a year ago?

Well, in fairness, back then he was a Democrat.


And THAT, gentlemen, is the crux of it, right there. Once this pageant-peeping, wife cheating, pussy grabbing fatass decided he hated Democrats, he was instantly transformed into Ben Garrison's buff, flaxen-haired hero of the GOP.
 
2017-08-27 08:46:41 AM  

NotTooLittleRichard: They don't watch the news.  They don't follow politics.  .... the people who just don't give a shiat, can't be bothered to learn, or are otherwise ignorant...  They're the ones who handed Trump the victory.  And the sad thing is, unless something happens that they can't possibly ignore, something that adversely impacts them in a major, negative way...they'll continue on as before.


That's my mom.  She can't tell my why she voted for him as she tells me "i don't really pay attention" and "i don't really watch the news".

I tried presenting her with facts prior to the election.  She ignored and refused to read the repeated emails, texts, and URLs I sent her so that she could make an informed decision.  She "feels" Hillary Clinton is dishonest but, can't tell you why.  I can show her video evidence of Trump lying and she dismisses it.  I think she is one of the people that follows her Facebook crowd more willingly than i'd ever want to admit.

I love her but, she's one of the idiots that got Trump elected.
 
2017-08-27 08:46:48 AM  
Boy this thread got derailed over a minor point right quick...
 
2017-08-27 08:47:30 AM  

SoFlaNative52: ComradeIvan: America is third most populated country on planet. Is very powerful with economy and military.

Why are there only two political parties? Is not real democracy, is it?

Here's the real important question: Why does the United States have political parties? Try to find political parties in the US Constitution. Extra bonus: Name the only president who wasn't a member of a political party. Super extra bonus: Quote his remarks/ warnings about political parties .


Here's an important question: name a country with free elections that doesn't have political parties.
 
2017-08-27 08:48:16 AM  

Far Cough: Summoner101: Far Cough: Summoner101: Far Cough: qorkfiend: Summoner101: It was a cunning plan, pissing off the fastest growing demographic by cozying up to abject racism.  There were many discussions last year on the probability of Arizona and Texas turning purple and blue because of the Hispanic populations.  Trump just sped up that process which is why Sen. McCain and Flake are pissed while Trump further makes matters worse by backing hard right Flake challengers.

My only question now is how will Democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory this time?

Maybe we should start by not assuming they're going to lose

No no, that was our mistake last time.

[img.fark.net image 320x212]

Exactly, we missed the election by That much because of overconfidence and a historically unappealing candidate.  Let us do MUCH better by being smarter and choosier next time.

It was more a reference to the near simulpost.

Yeah I know but mistakenly thought I was responding to the other guy and lost my sense of humor, sorry.


S'alright.
 
2017-08-27 08:48:20 AM  

Lackofname: SoFlaNative52: ComradeIvan: America is third most populated country on planet. Is very powerful with economy and military.

Why are there only two political parties? Is not real democracy, is it?

Here's the real important question: Why does the United States have political parties? Try to find political parties in the US Constitution. Extra bonus: Name the only president who wasn't a member of a political party. Super extra bonus: Quote his remarks/ warnings about political parties .

Here's an important question: name a country with free elections that doesn't have political parties.


Disregard this comment, I misread. Derp.
 
2017-08-27 08:49:23 AM  

ComradeIvan: America is third most populated country on planet. Is very powerful with economy and military.

Why are there only two political parties? Is not real democracy, is it?


What's the time frame on how long you're going to keep up this faux-Russian shtick?

Asking for my ignore list.
 
2017-08-27 08:49:30 AM  

SoFlaNative52: ComradeIvan: America is third most populated country on planet. Is very powerful with economy and military.

Why are there only two political parties? Is not real democracy, is it?

Here's the real important question: Why does the United States have political parties? Try to find political parties in the US Constitution. Extra bonus: Name the only president who wasn't a member of a political party. Super extra bonus: Quote his remarks/ warnings about political parties .


Sorry!
USA is truly fascinating, but am social engineer with minor in software engineering, not foreign historian. :(
 
2017-08-27 08:49:38 AM  

ComradeIvan: America is third most populated country on planet. Is very powerful with economy and military.

Why are there only two political parties? Is not real democracy, is it?


The cynic in me says because both parties are the same in many ways and they agree on keeping only 2 seats at the table.  Why let another kid play with you when you can have 2 people in complete control nearly 100% of the time?  It is like a teeter totter.  When the other side finally goes down you know your fate is to rise.
 
2017-08-27 08:49:56 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: Boy this thread got derailed over a minor point right quick...


Happy to do my part.
 
2017-08-27 08:52:07 AM  

Lackofname: SoFlaNative52: ComradeIvan: America is third most populated country on planet. Is very powerful with economy and military.

Why are there only two political parties? Is not real democracy, is it?

Here's the real important question: Why does the United States have political parties? Try to find political parties in the US Constitution. Extra bonus: Name the only president who wasn't a member of a political party. Super extra bonus: Quote his remarks/ warnings about political parties .

Here's an important question: name a country with free elections that doesn't have political parties.


What purpose do political parties serve??? I suggest you read Dr. Seuss's story about the Sneetches.
 
2017-08-27 08:52:55 AM  
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2017-08-27 08:58:16 AM  

hubiestubert: ...if only there had been some way to predict Donnie's heel turn BEFORE the election...if only there had been some clues to his nature...

DID THESE PEOPLE NOT HEAR THE WORDS THAT ACTUALLY CAME OUT OF THIS TANGERINE SH*T GIBBON FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR BEFORE?


Or for that matter, racist shiat he was spewing as far back as the 80's.  He's a farking evil person.
 
2017-08-27 08:59:39 AM  
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2017-08-27 09:00:21 AM  

Far Cough: qorkfiend: Summoner101: qorkfiend: Summoner101: qorkfiend: Summoner101: It was a cunning plan, pissing off the fastest growing demographic by cozying up to abject racism.  There were many discussions last year on the probability of Arizona and Texas turning purple and blue because of the Hispanic populations.  Trump just sped up that process which is why Sen. McCain and Flake are pissed while Trump further makes matters worse by backing hard right Flake challengers.

My only question now is how will Democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory this time?

Maybe we should start by not assuming they're going to lose

How'd that work last year?

You believe that since the Democrats lost one election, we should assume they will lose every election and somehow this will accomplish...what, exactly?

The Democrats have a pretty solid track record of thinking they have an election in the bag (2000, 2004, 2016, various Senate/House races) and resting on their laurels thinking they don't have to campaign where it counts.  There's a lot to be said for not interrupting your opponent when he's making a mistake, but that should still be an active decision with a comprehensive strategy on what you do when your opponent shuts up or is instead dominating the news cycle.

If anything it's not an admission of defeat rather a reminder for vigilance.

"Assuming they will lose" is absolutely an admission of defeat. Stop trying to tell yourself otherwise.

You really don't get this?  It's an ironic call to be more vigilant and aware, not a concession.


Then maybe people should use words that sound like a call to vigilance instead of a concession.

The statement wasn't "it's not over so don't assume they have it in the bag", it was "the Democrats will find a way to lose". Can you honestly not see the difference?
 
2017-08-27 09:01:48 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: Boy this thread got derailed over a minor point right quick...


Sorry, it's Sunday morning and I have nothing better to do.

The defeatist attitude that's been wholly embraced by so many Farkers also really farking pisses me off.
 
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