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(Reuters)   Trump's threat to shut down the government to secure funding for the wall have rattled the stock markets. #DAMMITDONALD   ( reuters.com) divider line
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2017-08-23 12:35:31 PM  
Rattled equals a < 50 point drop in the Dow.
 
2017-08-23 12:37:21 PM  
At this point, I'm more worried every time we hear the news Trump is going to speak in public than I am about hearing the latest updates on NK's nuclear missile program.
 
2017-08-23 12:40:13 PM  
Such a great businessman, guess by this time next year we will either be speaking Russian or Chinese.
 
2017-08-23 12:43:53 PM  
Hear that, Trump voters? You (and, unfortunately, the rest of us not gullible enough to vote for this carnival barker)are going to be paying for the orange buffoon's wall... and this coont is prepared to shut down the government over it.

Tell me, are you tired of being useful idiots for this bloated man-baby?

No, of course you're not.
 
2017-08-23 12:45:17 PM  
Shouldn't he be shutting down Mexico's government for wall payment?
 
2017-08-23 12:50:51 PM  
He ain't gonna shut down the government over a wall.   Mitch and him are fighting now, and I suspect Mitch will come out on top.   Mitch does not want a government shutdown, he'll do his damnest to make sure Trump is stopped.
 
2017-08-23 12:53:17 PM  

raerae1980: He ain't gonna shut down the government over a wall.   Mitch and him are fighting now, and I suspect Mitch will come out on top.   Mitch does not want a government shutdown, he'll do his damnest to make sure Trump is stopped.


I do wonder if this might be the last straw that gets Congress to impeach him.  If they finally come up with a budget and he fails to sign it (My guess?  He'll sign.) - they'll be tired of his shiat and decide they like the idea of President Pence better.
 
2017-08-23 12:55:41 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: raerae1980: He ain't gonna shut down the government over a wall.   Mitch and him are fighting now, and I suspect Mitch will come out on top.   Mitch does not want a government shutdown, he'll do his damnest to make sure Trump is stopped.

I do wonder if this might be the last straw that gets Congress to impeach him.  If they finally come up with a budget and he fails to sign it (My guess?  He'll sign.) - they'll be tired of his shiat and decide they like the idea of President Pence better.


He's not going to be impeached.  If he doesn't finish out his term it will be cause he resigns or they 25th amendment his ass outta the White House.
 
2017-08-23 12:59:56 PM  
All I can say is that with the Republicans holding the House, the Senate and the White House; this shutdown is obviously the fault of the Democrats.
 
2017-08-23 01:04:15 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: raerae1980: He ain't gonna shut down the government over a wall.   Mitch and him are fighting now, and I suspect Mitch will come out on top.   Mitch does not want a government shutdown, he'll do his damnest to make sure Trump is stopped.

I do wonder if this might be the last straw that gets Congress to impeach him.  If they finally come up with a budget and he fails to sign it (My guess?  He'll sign.) - they'll be tired of his shiat and decide they like the idea of President Pence better.


Let's hope for that.
 
2017-08-23 01:04:22 PM  
Well the market tanking may be the one thing that will cause Republicans to draw the line in the sand.

They have principles you know.
 
2017-08-23 01:10:12 PM  

groppet: Such a great businessman, guess by this time next year we will either be speaking Russian or Chinese.


How many bankruptcies has he seen his businesses go through?
 
2017-08-23 01:10:47 PM  

raerae1980: He ain't gonna shut down the government over a wall.   Mitch and him are fighting now, and I suspect Mitch will come out on top.   Mitch does not want a government shutdown, he'll do his damnest to make sure Trump is stopped.


You're cute.
 
2017-08-23 01:10:59 PM  

Girl From The North Country: Well the market tanking may be the one thing that will cause Republicans to draw the line in the sand.

They have principles you know.


And those principles have made it clear that they expect a return on their investments campaign donations.
 
2017-08-23 01:12:01 PM  

ds615: raerae1980: He ain't gonna shut down the government over a wall.   Mitch and him are fighting now, and I suspect Mitch will come out on top.   Mitch does not want a government shutdown, he'll do his damnest to make sure Trump is stopped.

You're cute.


Thank you.   ;-)
 
2017-08-23 01:13:42 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: I do wonder if this might be the last straw that gets Congress to impeach him.


It'll take the Mueller investigation finding something for them to have a solid pretense for that.

This is just Trump being a whiny baby who is very bad at political hardball.
 
2017-08-23 01:17:21 PM  
The GOP will send him a budget. It won't have funds for the wall. He'll throw a twitter tantrum (hereafter known as a twantrum). The GOP will toss in a measly billion for the wall (taken from some very needy and deserving place where it would actually do societal good of course). Everyone claims a win.
 
2017-08-23 01:31:45 PM  

Gubbo: The GOP will send him a budget. It won't have funds for the wall. He'll throw a twitter tantrum (hereafter known as a twantrum). The GOP will toss in a measly billion for the wall (taken from some very needy and deserving place where it would actually do societal good of course). Everyone claims a win.


I've got money on he'll sign whatever the GOP sends him, but if it doesn't have money for a border wall, his twitter self-felatio will mysteriously leave that detail out as he claims the win for finally passing a budget.  At this point, he'll take credit for ANYTHING that can be considered a win just to get the achievement.
 
2017-08-23 01:42:47 PM  

dv-ous: Benevolent Misanthrope: I do wonder if this might be the last straw that gets Congress to impeach him.

It'll take the Mueller investigation finding something for them to have a solid pretense for that.


And even then, it'd be up to Paul Ryan to allow a vote to impeach. As Speaker, he gets the first, last and only say as to which bills are allowed to go up for a vote and which aren't, and this includes articles of impeachment.

Option 25A is even harder, since it would require Mike Pence and half of the Secretaries, could easily be countered by a "NO-U!" from Trump, and if so countered would then need two thirds of both the House and Senate.
 
2017-08-23 02:01:19 PM  

King Something: As Speaker, he gets the first, last and only say as to which bills are allowed to go up for a vote and which aren't, and this includes articles of impeachment.


Not completely correct; a bill can be forced by a discharge motion, but it takes a majority vote, so Ryan would have to lose some of his caucus.  But if there is a majority in the House willing to vote for impeachment anyway, a discharge motion would be pretty easy to get.
 
2017-08-23 02:07:52 PM  
Can we just half-build a 50ft section in the middle of Texas, fly him out there for a "photo op", then drop it and never speak of it again? His aides can just reassure him that it's being built.
 
2017-08-23 02:13:03 PM  

keylock71: Hear that, Trump voters? You (and, unfortunately, the rest of us not gullible enough to vote for this carnival barker)are going to be paying for the orange buffoon's wall... and this coont is prepared to shut down the government over it.
Tell me, are you tired of being useful idiots for this bloated man-baby?


Tired of it? They see this as a win! They're ok with paying for it and still believe he'll get it from Mexico later. Shutting down the government doesn't phase his base one bit. These morons were the ones cheering in 2013 and saying we should leave the "non-essential" employees unemployed permanently.
 
2017-08-23 02:15:28 PM  
Shut it down asshole, shut it all the fark down, quit playing around do it. fark another 3 1/2-7 1/2 years of this bullshiat. Be a big man and DO IT. Let's see if your base likes not having government services and not getting SS, SSI and not getting their medications.
Shut it down until either you get your way or congress grows a pair.
 
2017-08-23 02:25:52 PM  

Fissile: Benevolent Misanthrope: raerae1980: He ain't gonna shut down the government over a wall.   Mitch and him are fighting now, and I suspect Mitch will come out on top.   Mitch does not want a government shutdown, he'll do his damnest to make sure Trump is stopped.

I do wonder if this might be the last straw that gets Congress to impeach him.  If they finally come up with a budget and he fails to sign it (My guess?  He'll sign.) - they'll be tired of his shiat and decide they like the idea of President Pence better.

He's not going to be impeached.  If he doesn't finish out his term it will be cause he resigns or they 25th amendment his ass outta the White House.


Pence and Trump's cabinet will never invoke the 25th, Trump could be drooling and pissing himself in public and the cabinet will still be lining up to tell Trump he is the best president ever, in public.

Pence doesn't want to be Jerry Ford, he doesn't want to be the guy who has to pardon Trump and can't get anything through congress to only lose the election.

If Pence 25th Trump, Trump supporters will never forgive him not only would he lose re-election in a land slide he would face the constant threat of a Trump fan harming him or his family.

Pence hopes Trump dies or resigns or congress impeached him and somehow this improves Trump's popularity which rubs off on Pence.
 
2017-08-23 02:30:14 PM  

Gubbo: The GOP will send him a budget. It won't have funds for the wall. He'll throw a twitter tantrum (hereafter known as a twantrum). The GOP will toss in a measly billion for the wall (taken from some very needy and deserving place where it would actually do societal good of course). Everyone claims a win.


They don't even need to do that... just highlight some really obscure line item and make a note in the margin that says "Billions for Trump Wall" Just to be safe, you'd want to add a little sketch of a a wall with a big TRUMP sign on top of it.
 
2017-08-23 02:35:12 PM  
I'm shocked, because Trump assured me that Mexico was going to pay for the wall.
 
2017-08-23 03:00:29 PM  
3 things that Congress and the President have to get done in the next month:
1) raise the debt ceiling so we can continue to pay current bills
2) pass a budget (that's not a funding document, just a plan for next year)
3) pass an appropriation to fund authorized programs in alignment with the budget (that's the part where money actually gets real)

If they screw up any of those 3, the government shuts down.  I have seen a distinct lack of progress on any of the above since January.
 
2017-08-23 03:30:45 PM  

cefm: 3 things that Congress and the President have to get done in the next month:
1) raise the debt ceiling so we can continue to pay current bills
2) pass a budget (that's not a funding document, just a plan for next year)
3) pass an appropriation to fund authorized programs in alignment with the budget (that's the part where money actually gets real)

If they screw up any of those 3, the government shuts down.  I have seen a distinct lack of progress on any of the above since January.


My assumption: Clean debt-ceiling raise coupled with a CR for 6 months, with all Dems and about half the GOP in the House and likely almost everyone in the Senate (Paul will object, as will Cruz, maybe a few others).  Probably enough to at least threaten a veto override, which means he'll sign it and just grumble and/or deflect.
 
2017-08-23 03:38:59 PM  

obenchainr: cefm: 3 things that Congress and the President have to get done in the next month:
1) raise the debt ceiling so we can continue to pay current bills
2) pass a budget (that's not a funding document, just a plan for next year)
3) pass an appropriation to fund authorized programs in alignment with the budget (that's the part where money actually gets real)

If they screw up any of those 3, the government shuts down.  I have seen a distinct lack of progress on any of the above since January.

My assumption: Clean debt-ceiling raise coupled with a CR for 6 months, with all Dems and about half the GOP in the House and likely almost everyone in the Senate (Paul will object, as will Cruz, maybe a few others).  Probably enough to at least threaten a veto override, which means he'll sign it and just grumble and/or deflect.


I would love to see the shiat-show of the Democrats all abstaining or voting present. Or at least threatening to. Let the GOP destroy themselves with the easiest, simplest vote that there is.
 
2017-08-23 04:55:48 PM  

spongeboob: Shut it down asshole, shut it all the fark down, quit playing around do it. fark another 3 1/2-7 1/2 years of this bullshiat. Be a big man and DO IT. Let's see if your base likes not having government services and not getting SS, SSI and not getting their medications.
Shut it down until either you get your way or congress grows a pair.


The base will still blame the Democrats.
 
2017-08-23 05:44:49 PM  
"The Dow Jones Industrial Average .DJI was down by 0.3 percent and the Nasdaq Composite Index .IXIC slid 0.2 percent."

Yeah, "rattled". Stopped reading there.
 
2017-08-23 07:12:35 PM  
No one cares.

Trump can't "shut down the government." He lacks any power, legal or otherwise, to do so. It's empty rhetoric, spewed like bird barf at the mind-mouths of his hungry, eager, and oh-so-empty followers. The executive branch has no control over how government is funded. Not one iota. He gets to make a "budget request," which has no binding capabilities whatsoever and isn't even seen as legislation - it's a big pack of suggestions that describes to the legislative branch what the executive branch would like to see happen, nothing more.

The only thing worse than taking this bullshiat from Trump seriously is to then claim that the world's markets were "rattled" when nothing of the sort happened.
 
2017-08-23 08:26:54 PM  
Trump's fearful, pathetic racism and bigotry is so overwhelming he would literally rather see this country destroyed than allow Hispanics and Muslims to live here. Every rally he has revolves around those topics and nothing else is really important to him.

It's disgusting and it threatens our entire national security.
 
2017-08-23 09:05:39 PM  
Jesus farking Christ, who is the politics tab mouthbreather who keeps jerking off and submitting this shiat every time the market goes down a whopping 0.3%?

0.3% is nothing. We get it. Trump sucks. I don't like Trump either. But jerking yourself every time that the stock market goes down a tiny bit (which is normal; it fluctuates) because you might be able to blame Trump is really obnoxious. Just like how Obama wasn't responsible every time the market went down a tiny bit, nor is Trump
 
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