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(The Hill)   Will Trump increase troop deployments? Are we ever getting out of Afghanistan? Will Trump stay on-script? THIS is your "POTUS national address to the nation" thread (9pm ET start)   ( thehill.com) divider line
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2017-08-21 06:28:18 AM  
Everyone predicts Trump will increase troop levels by 5000 or so, which seems like a safe bet.

Anyone interested in betting Trump pulls all our forces from Afghanistan? How about a massive troop infusion? Invade Pakistan just like Nixon invaded Cambodia?
 
2017-08-21 06:57:18 AM  

AirForceVet: Invade Pakistan just like Nixon invaded Cambodia?


Doesn't he have a super secret plan to invade Venezuela?
 
2017-08-21 07:42:31 AM  

DammitIForgotMyLogin: AirForceVet: Invade Pakistan just like Nixon invaded Cambodia?

Doesn't he have a super secret plan to invade Venezuela?


Oh, that is SO last week.
 
2017-08-21 07:53:10 AM  
huh, so the meeting last Friday that was originally about North Korea, then about Afghanistan, and finally about Southeast Asia, has resulted in a national address where Trump may end up addressing all three or none at all.

i still don't quite understand why this was of such importance that the Vice President had to cut his South America trip short to fly back and attend the meeting, especially if we're only upping troop levels by 5000.

I'm expecting a curveball. It is almost sweeps
 
2017-08-21 08:02:26 AM  
Who is Will Trump, and when did he increase troop deployments?

/Who's got two thumbs and is "that guy" today?
//This guy!
 
2017-08-21 08:04:21 AM  

somedude210: I'm expecting a curveball. It is almost sweeps


He's going to ask Congress to fund a statue of Hitler on the Mall.
 
2017-08-21 08:11:43 AM  

naughtyrev: somedude210: I'm expecting a curveball. It is almost sweeps

He's going to ask Congress to fund a statue of Hitler on the Mall.


and half the GOP will denounce Hitler but not Trump for trying to glorify Hitler
 
2017-08-21 08:18:58 AM  
He's announcing his resignation?

A guy can hope can't he?
 
2017-08-21 08:20:24 AM  

Archie Goodwin: He's announcing his resignation?

A guy can hope can't he?


that was my thought when i first heard the announcement that he was addressing the nation tonight
 
2017-08-21 08:26:23 AM  

AirForceVet: Everyone predicts Trump will increase troop levels by 5000 or so, which seems like a safe bet.

Anyone interested in betting Trump pulls all our forces from Afghanistan? How about a massive troop infusion? Invade Pakistan just like Nixon invaded Cambodia?


I'm betting he privatizes the war, let's Betsy Devos's brother and his Blackwater goons run it as a private fief, and takes a generous kickback.
 
2017-08-21 08:51:45 AM  

somedude210: Archie Goodwin: He's announcing his resignation?

A guy can hope can't he?

that was my thought when i first heard the announcement that he was addressing the nation tonight


Thirded.

I need this.
 
2017-08-21 08:53:25 AM  
His true form shall be revealed after Hukana the forbidden Goddess of the Moon shadows the earth with her pale ether light as the proud sun is made helpless

All flesh shall worship the new God
 
2017-08-21 08:53:50 AM  
Regardless of what is on the pre-released script, I'm sure we hear, both sides are bad.  Crooked Hillary.  Biggest electoral win.  No collusion.  Something about wars.
 
2017-08-21 08:53:50 AM  
No matter what his decision on troop levels I fully believe he will talk about removing "politically correct" restrictions on the military and will tacitly approve war crimes
 
2017-08-21 08:56:11 AM  
8PM hmmm....

Do I watch the most amount of bullshiat that could possibly be packed in that hour of programming or do I watch Monday Night Raw?
 
2017-08-21 08:56:47 AM  
I think he will spend most of the time calling out fake news, how he misses those erotic backrubs by Steve Bannon, and that Hope Hicks is having his baby.
 
2017-08-21 08:57:32 AM  
8PM?  Given his tone-deafness in the past, Im surprised he didnt schedule it for the middle of the eclipse
 
2017-08-21 09:00:30 AM  

Epoch_Zero: somedude210: Archie Goodwin: He's announcing his resignation?

A guy can hope can't he?

that was my thought when i first heard the announcement that he was addressing the nation tonight

Thirded.

I need this.


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Frowns on your shenanigans.

Tonight he gets to be a military. If someone suggests the troops should hold a parade for him before they deploy, expect the number to suddenly quadruple.
 
2017-08-21 09:01:19 AM  
"While the President did announce his intention of increasing the US troop deployment in Afghanistan, a White House spokesperson confirmed that his announcement of the opening of a Confederacy-themed casino in Mobile, Alabama was 'unexpected'. Likewise, the spokesperson confirmed that the President's statement that 'We're going to kill every 5th puppy in this great country of ours' was 'off the cuff', and the spokesperson stressed that any puppy-killing efforts would need to be approved by Congress."
 
2017-08-21 09:01:46 AM  

AirForceVet: Everyone predicts Trump will increase troop levels by 5000 or so, which seems like a safe bet.

Anyone interested in betting Trump pulls all our forces from Afghanistan? How about a massive troop infusion? Invade Pakistan just like Nixon invaded Cambodia?


He might actually. An action that might have helped 5 years earlier in the war, done to be seen to  be doing something, despite the fact that it won't matter and at a cost of lots of lives both military and civilian.

Oh god he's going to actually do that.
 
2017-08-21 09:05:09 AM  

Karac: AirForceVet: Everyone predicts Trump will increase troop levels by 5000 or so, which seems like a safe bet.

Anyone interested in betting Trump pulls all our forces from Afghanistan? How about a massive troop infusion? Invade Pakistan just like Nixon invaded Cambodia?

I'm betting he privatizes the war, let's Betsy Devos's brother and his Blackwater goons run it as a private fief, and takes a generous kickback.


I'm not convinced that Mattis, McMaster and the JCS would ever go along with that plan. We don't win wars with mercs
 
2017-08-21 09:05:22 AM  
Also. Presuming he doesn't fall down during the speech, just watch the rush by the media to say this was the day he became President and all that other nonsense.

Because American media cannot resist the war drums.
 
2017-08-21 09:10:49 AM  
So, what at the odds he goes off-script and starts rambling incoherently?
 
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2017-08-21 09:11:39 AM  
This will be a rose ceremony.  Someone is getting picked.
 
2017-08-21 09:13:39 AM  
I'm surprised the whole speech hasn't been leaked.  Maybe he's going to wing it and do the whole thing off the cuff.  That's going to be entertaining.
 
2017-08-21 09:19:29 AM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: I'm surprised the whole speech hasn't been leaked.  Maybe he's going to wing it and do the whole thing off the cuff.  That's going to be entertaining.


I'm guessing they don't have things planned out yet. He'll definitely go off the cuff.

I expect a bump in the polls. America was born in the blood of other people and we get off on it still.
 
2017-08-21 09:24:31 AM  
You have to apply "Donny's razor". The stupidest most harmful thing is what he will do. So US backed mercenaries with license to murder civilians and commit unlimited atrocities.
 
2017-08-21 09:25:47 AM  

dr_blasto: So, what at the odds he goes off-script and starts rambling incoherently?


Damn near 100%.  Actually, I'd say somewhere over 100%.
 
2017-08-21 09:27:08 AM  
1. no change
2. small surge in Afghanistan
3. big surge in Afghanistan
4. mercenaries in Afghanistan
5. announcing the joint SK US exercises are actually war
6. troop surge in Yemen
7. begin pull out of Afghanistan

My heart tells me 2. A small surge would accomplish 2 things.

a. put us on a war footing to force Trump dissenters to shut up. If the free press is the enemy of the American people (Trump said that) then dissenters are too.

Remember, the GOP has a party loyalty oath, Trump has his cabinet loyalty oath. Start raising your right hand and repeating "I do solemnly swear..."

b. minerals. Oil didn't pay for the war in Iraq but there's lots of money for Trump and GOP war mongers to make. Plus increased contractor payouts means more quarterly dividends for rich people.

I doubt it would be 7 but maybe he made a deal with Putin about the EAEU.
 
2017-08-21 09:37:51 AM  
He's going to send a special team with Joe Arpaio there, since they did such an amazing job when he sent them to Hawaii to find the usurper's real birth certificate.
 
2017-08-21 09:38:11 AM  
"Did you guys see that eclipse today? Yuge eclipse. Total eclipse. Set records for eclipses. Excuse me, excuse me. I'm not finished yet. Biggest eclipse since Woodrow Wilson. I've seen some eclipses, but none like this. We're setting records. Believe me. Hey, excuse me. I'm not finished. Turn around, bright eyes. When Obama was President, he had like two partial eclipses, and it was cloudy for most of the day. I got you a total eclipse in just 7 months time. And there won't be any clouds, believe me. We've made sure. Now, there are several places that are prime viewing, which you should get to. Mar A Lago, Trump International Las Vegas, Trump International DC. Those places will have the most incredible eclipse opportunities available. They're even serving sunny side up eggs with a slice of pepperoni on top as a wink to eclipse viewers. Also, we're nuking North Korea. Thank you!"
 
2017-08-21 09:39:45 AM  
I'm just really, really hoping we get a news dump of something big at 5, so it busts up his plans and sends him in to a frothing rage.
 
2017-08-21 10:00:21 AM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: begin pull out of Afghanistan


That's the only smart move. Which means he won't do it.
Agent Orange is bankrupting the Secret Service. He'll bankrupt the US Government if he is in power long enough. That's his MO. He's a leech.
 
2017-08-21 10:00:35 AM  
Sort of appropriate that he'd delivery his address on the same day the nation experiences a total eclipse

/Sort of chillingly appropriate, in fact
 
2017-08-21 10:04:44 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Sort of appropriate that he'd delivery his address on the same day the nation experiences a total eclipse

/Sort of chillingly appropriate, in fact


John Oliver had a little segment that talked of some of the other big stories that happened last week, and Trump overshadowed them all. The image he had was of the sun and a Trump eclipsing it.
 
2017-08-21 10:07:27 AM  

Nadie_AZ: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: begin pull out of Afghanistan

That's the only smart move. Which means he won't do it.
Agent Orange is bankrupting the Secret Service. He'll bankrupt the US Government if he is in power long enough. That's his MO. He's a leech.


But next we get Lisa Simpson.
 
2017-08-21 10:32:35 AM  

The Drawing Board: 8PM hmmm....

Do I watch the most amount of bullshiat that could possibly be packed in that hour of programming or do I watch Monday Night Raw?


Katie Vick giving birth to a rubber hand while the Big Boss Man fights in a steel cage with horny dogs couldn't give more bullshiat than Trump.  Stone Cold putting one over on Vince by filling his limo with literal bullshiat from a diarrhetic bull he rode into the parking lot on couldn't have more bullshiat than Trump.
 
2017-08-21 10:57:48 AM  

doglover: Nadie_AZ: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: begin pull out of Afghanistan

That's the only smart move. Which means he won't do it.
Agent Orange is bankrupting the Secret Service. He'll bankrupt the US Government if he is in power long enough. That's his MO. He's a leech.

But next we get Lisa Simpson.


the math checks out. If she was eight in 1989 when the show started, then she'd be 39 in 2020 and eligible to run for president by 4 years.

oh god, the Simpsons knew about it all....
 
2017-08-21 11:07:40 AM  

Archie Goodwin: He's announcing his resignation?

A guy can hope can't he?


That's the only thing I want to hear from him.
 
2017-08-21 11:20:11 AM  

Gubbo: AirForceVet: Everyone predicts Trump will increase troop levels by 5000 or so, which seems like a safe bet.

Anyone interested in betting Trump pulls all our forces from Afghanistan? How about a massive troop infusion? Invade Pakistan just like Nixon invaded Cambodia?

He might actually. An action that might have helped 5 years earlier in the war, done to be seen to  be doing something, despite the fact that it won't matter and at a cost of lots of lives both military and civilian.

Oh god he's going to actually do that.


Difficulty level: Pakistan have nukes too, only they are somewhat competent at aiming them.
 
2017-08-21 11:26:56 AM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: 1. no change
2. small surge in Afghanistan
3. big surge in Afghanistan
4. mercenaries in Afghanistan
5. announcing the joint SK US exercises are actually war
6. troop surge in Yemen
7. begin pull out of Afghanistan

My heart tells me 2. A small surge would accomplish 2 things.

a. put us on a war footing to force Trump dissenters to shut up. If the free press is the enemy of the American people (Trump said that) then dissenters are too.

Remember, the GOP has a party loyalty oath, Trump has his cabinet loyalty oath. Start raising your right hand and repeating "I do solemnly swear..."

b. minerals. Oil didn't pay for the war in Iraq but there's lots of money for Trump and GOP war mongers to make. Plus increased contractor payouts means more quarterly dividends for rich people.

I doubt it would be 7 but maybe he made a deal with Putin about the EAEU.


Nobody is getting resources out of Afghanistan. Not only is it a landlocked country surrounded by countries that are barely trustworthy to us, it's a murderous landlocked country that has been the graveyard of far more determined empires than our own.
 
2017-08-21 11:33:16 AM  

Archie Goodwin: Gubbo: AirForceVet: Everyone predicts Trump will increase troop levels by 5000 or so, which seems like a safe bet.

Anyone interested in betting Trump pulls all our forces from Afghanistan? How about a massive troop infusion? Invade Pakistan just like Nixon invaded Cambodia?

He might actually. An action that might have helped 5 years earlier in the war, done to be seen to  be doing something, despite the fact that it won't matter and at a cost of lots of lives both military and civilian.

Oh god he's going to actually do that.

Difficulty level: Pakistan have nukes too, only they are somewhat competent at aiming them.


I know that. And you know that.

Does he know that.
 
2017-08-21 11:34:35 AM  
Trump: Hello America. I beat Crooked Hillary. Good night and God bless America.

Ryan (After a few minutes): Psst. Mr. President, you still have more than an hour left. Is this all you are going to say?

Trump: What? Are you saying I didn't beat Crooked Hillary?
 
2017-08-21 11:55:53 AM  
Isn't that kind of late for Trump to be speaking publicly?  Won't he be deep into sundowning about then, babbling incoherently about any damn thing?  I hope so.  Whattya bet his wranglers make him take a nap about 5pm?
 
2017-08-21 11:56:52 AM  

Gubbo: Archie Goodwin: Gubbo: AirForceVet: Everyone predicts Trump will increase troop levels by 5000 or so, which seems like a safe bet.

Anyone interested in betting Trump pulls all our forces from Afghanistan? How about a massive troop infusion? Invade Pakistan just like Nixon invaded Cambodia?

He might actually. An action that might have helped 5 years earlier in the war, done to be seen to  be doing something, despite the fact that it won't matter and at a cost of lots of lives both military and civilian.

Oh god he's going to actually do that.

Difficulty level: Pakistan have nukes too, only they are somewhat competent at aiming them.

I know that. And you know that.

Does he know that.


Probably not.
 
2017-08-21 12:39:28 PM  

AirForceVet: Everyone predicts Trump will increase troop levels by 5000 or so, which seems like a safe bet.


That's it? That's the grand plan that he already had before he was elected, that he ordered his generals to come up with, that took SEVEN FARKING MONTHS to put together, that Pence had to come home early for? A moderate troop increase?

Now he's going to brag endlessly that he came up with this brilliant military strategy. No one - ever in the history of the world - thought to increase troop levels before he did it. F*ck.
 
2017-08-21 12:41:53 PM  

Hack Patooey: 8PM?  Given his tone-deafness in the past, Im surprised he didnt schedule it for the middle of the eclipse


It's got to be eating at that tarry, shriveled thing where his heart ought to be that all day long he's being upstaged by the puny sun.
 
2017-08-21 02:24:08 PM  
UPDATE: Trump to increase troop levels
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2017-08-21 02:25:30 PM  

cranked: UPDATE: Trump to increase troop levels
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source?
 
2017-08-21 02:27:57 PM  
What's the over/under on him praising himself for various things?

I'm gonna go with three times.

And what's the over/under on him shiatting on Obama?

I'll go with two times.
 
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