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(NBC Chicago)   This *isn't* how you protest confederate statues   ( nbcchicago.com) divider line
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2017-08-17 08:38:11 PM  
Apparently, the bust had originally been vandalized seven years ago and it was recently set on fire by who knows who.  Old news is truly bracing, isn't it?
 
2017-08-17 09:50:19 PM  
just because there isn't a confederate statue closer than like 200 miles from Chicago doesn't mean you should start desecrating everything.
 
2017-08-17 09:52:19 PM  
You tar and feather one of ours, we burn one of yours, it's the Chicago way.
 
2017-08-17 10:02:43 PM  
Why is all this statue shiat a thing all of a sudden? They've been around for decades.
 
2017-08-17 10:17:29 PM  
He's got a much nicer one in DC.
 
2017-08-17 10:26:20 PM  
Trump took to Twitter Thursday morning

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edmo: He's got a much nicer one in DC.


The Lincoln Memorial is so damn impressive. Unless you're there in person it's hard to comprehend it properly.

/it's where I proposed to my ex-wife, on MLK day, the day before Obama's first inauguration
//WTF happened to this country since then?
 
2017-08-17 11:31:21 PM  
But Lincoln was a Republican so the culprits must be Democrats.

AM I RIGHT OR WHAT
 
2017-08-18 12:35:13 AM  
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Indeed, Submitter.
 
2017-08-18 12:53:25 AM  
My guess is that this is a direct retaliation for the removal of the statues memorializing the Confederacy. To many of the people who revere the Confederacy, Abraham Lincoln is on par with Hitler. No Godwin here, this isn't an exaggeration. To them, he was the cause of the Civil War, a tyrant who instigated an unjust, immoral, and illegal conflict that ended with the subjugation of their valiant, freedom-loving, courageous ancestors. I've literally heard people justify their continued cries that "The South shall rise again" by asking "If Hitler had won, should people have just given up and accepted it?"

So, yeah, take down a statue of Robert E. Lee and they'll deface a statue of Lincoln in return.
 
2017-08-18 01:05:54 AM  

Sid_6.7: Trump took to Twitter Thursday morning

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edmo: He's got a much nicer one in DC.

The Lincoln Memorial is so damn impressive. Unless you're there in person it's hard to comprehend it properly.

/it's where I proposed to my ex-wife, on MLK day, the day before Obama's first inauguration
//WTF happened to this country since then?


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The Lincoln Memorial is pretty good. There's a great big guy sitting in a chair.
 
2017-08-18 01:27:18 AM  

timujin: So, yeah, take down a statue of Robert E. Lee and they'll deface a statue of Lincoln in return.


Let them.
 
2017-08-18 01:54:28 AM  

Action Replay Nick: I had "that racist uncle" growing up


I am related to people who voted for Trump.  It sucks.

Oddly I also am related to a few Republicans who thought he'd lose because they just didn't vote for a presidential candidate.  Difficulty: All those states went for Hilary.

I actually believe them, in part because one of them also is a bit of a historian, and as a Catholic who remembers WW2 happening when he was a child, he's said he is terrified of where things might be heading.  He once called Obama the anti-Christ, and we haven't talked about that since, but he denounced Trump at Xmas 2015 as being an enemy of all humanity.

I don't know what to think anymore.  Trump is making me appreciate that my Catholic family members actually believe in what Jesus taught and are just being loving and nice to everyone.  But then, they're all Yankees.
 
2017-08-18 01:57:02 AM  

Sid_6.7: Trump took to Twitter Thursday morning

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edmo: He's got a much nicer one in DC.

The Lincoln Memorial is so damn impressive. Unless you're there in person it's hard to comprehend it properly.

/it's where I proposed to my ex-wife, on MLK day, the day before Obama's first inauguration
//WTF happened to this country since then?


14 Words: We much secure the billions for our not yet named inheritors or their creditors.

This should be a competition.
 
2017-08-18 02:20:32 AM  

doglover: timujin: So, yeah, take down a statue of Robert E. Lee and they'll deface a statue of Lincoln in return.

Let them.


I want arguing for any response, but in this case, doing nothing seems appropriate. I doubt there will be a line of people down the block waiting to turn themselves in for this like there was in Durham.
 
2017-08-18 02:46:54 AM  

timujin: doglover: timujin: So, yeah, take down a statue of Robert E. Lee and they'll deface a statue of Lincoln in return. Let them. I want arguing for any response, but in this case, doing nothing seems appropriate. I doubt there will be a line of people down the block waiting to turn themselves in for this like there was in Durham.


Here's how I see statue vandals:

The Emperors New Groove-Yzma's Plan
Youtube KdB_zJXx_AE


Only most of them don't have a secret lab.
 
2017-08-18 04:47:13 AM  
i didn't realize there was a manual for mob-led iconoclasm
 
2017-08-18 04:51:14 AM  
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2017-08-18 04:51:38 AM  
Alt-reich and neo-confederates to claim false flag in 3...2...
 
2017-08-18 04:52:56 AM  
The morally consistent thing to do in Chicago would be to rename Grant Park.

Unless you think genocide's okay.
 
2017-08-18 04:56:59 AM  

Bonanza Jellybean: i didn't realize there was a manual for mob-led iconoclasm


There are several.

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2017-08-18 04:59:57 AM  
Yeah subbie, they confused Lincoln for a confederate solider even though they obviously had a time machine.
Great police work there Lou.
 
2017-08-18 05:01:16 AM  
Wow, subby. I knew you weren't a rod'n'reel kinda guy, but a whole fleet of trawling boats?

A bit overkill, don't you think?
 
2017-08-18 05:25:36 AM  

Mugato: Why is all this statue shiat a thing all of a sudden? They've been around for decades.


Have you looked at who we elected President recently? That's got 'em all coming out of the woodwork. =P

Plus it's given people something to focus on and feel like they can accomplish something.
 
2017-08-18 05:34:41 AM  
I blame the vampires.
 
2017-08-18 05:41:21 AM  
Don't underestimate the stupidity of people. Someone threw red paint on a statue of Christopher Columbus in Houston last night.
 
2017-08-18 05:51:11 AM  

Sid_6.7: Trump took to Twitter Thursday morning

[s.faketrumptweet.com image 590x262]

edmo: He's got a much nicer one in DC.

The Lincoln Memorial is so damn impressive. Unless you're there in person it's hard to comprehend it properly.

/it's where I proposed to my ex-wife, on MLK day, the day before Obama's first inauguration
//WTF happened to this country since then?


It really is a breathtaking monument. It's almost a religious experience.
 
2017-08-18 05:59:49 AM  
This just makes me sad.
 
2017-08-18 06:05:46 AM  
Actually subby, that is exactly how you protest if you are a hate-filled, mouth-breathing Nazi who wants to get even for losing his heroes' statues.
 
2017-08-18 06:18:45 AM  
This is:

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2017-08-18 06:28:02 AM  

Wyalt Derp: This is:

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That's all kinds of awesome.
 
2017-08-18 06:29:59 AM  
Normally I wouldn't put blame  like this out there,  but I am assuming this was a Trump supporter.  Everyone knows Lincoln was a well respected President who stood up against racism. This seems VERY suspicious they would burn his statue when pro Trumpers could scream "see!! They hate good America!!!"
 
2017-08-18 06:32:55 AM  

Mugato: Why is all this statue shiat a thing all of a sudden? They've been around for decades.


the statue of limitations is up
 
2017-08-18 06:38:07 AM  

Mugato: Why is all this statue shiat a thing all of a sudden? They've been around for decades.


And they'be been protested against for decades.  It's only louder now because they (neo-Nazis, racists, etc) are louder now.  Also, when people start getting killed over it, people tend to take more notice.  Kind of like how people might not think too much about gay rights until one of their kids comes out, or might think the idea of seatbelts is stupid until the first time they get into an accident and weren't using one.

But it's always been there.  Some people are just slower than others.
 
2017-08-18 06:38:47 AM  

Headso: Mugato: Why is all this statue shiat a thing all of a sudden? They've been around for decades.

the statue of limitations is up


Don't make me come over there.
 
2017-08-18 06:48:37 AM  
Perhaps they were outraged by Lincoln pretending to be trans-racial?
 
2017-08-18 06:52:04 AM  
Can we blow up Mt. Rushmore and be done with it?
 
2017-08-18 07:01:02 AM  

timujin: My guess is that this is a direct retaliation for the removal of the statues memorializing the Confederacy. To many of the people who revere the Confederacy, Abraham Lincoln is on par with Hitler. No Godwin here, this isn't an exaggeration. To them, he was the cause of the Civil War, a tyrant who instigated an unjust, immoral, and illegal conflict that ended with the subjugation of their valiant, freedom-loving, courageous ancestors. I've literally heard people justify their continued cries that "The South shall rise again" by asking "If Hitler had won, should people have just given up and accepted it?"

So, yeah, take down a statue of Robert E. Lee and they'll deface a statue of Lincoln in return.


My bet as well. Maybe just take down all statues? Except the Robocop one in Detroit.
 
2017-08-18 07:06:59 AM  

Sid_6.7: Trump took to Twitter Thursday morning

[s.faketrumptweet.com image 590x262]

edmo: He's got a much nicer one in DC.

The Lincoln Memorial is so damn impressive. Unless you're there in person it's hard to comprehend it properly.

/it's where I proposed to my ex-wife, on MLK day, the day before Obama's first inauguration
//WTF happened to this country since then?


It MAGA'ED
 
2017-08-18 07:08:34 AM  

Giant Clown Shoe: just because there isn't a confederate statue closer than like 200 miles from Chicago


Actually...

We have one. But it's in a cemetery, in memory of 4,000 confederate POWS who died in Chicago of smallpox and cholera. I give it a pass.

Confederate monument stands on Chicago's South Side as questions swirl around the country
 
2017-08-18 07:14:55 AM  
My Weeners was to equivocate on why just up and tearing down a KKK statue is fine while this isn't, but you know what?  Fine.  I'll buy that I can't complain too much if other groups do the same thing just because they're racist murderers and I'm not.  Sure, that's... technically ad-hominem, I guess, I'll concede it.

You win, little Cyclops.  We'll take down all the more mildly problematic statues too.  No statues for anyone.  Congratulations, you're so farking terrible that you've legitimately ruined literally the second-oldest human art form for everyone forever.  Your tantrum has convinced us.  From now on, statues may only exist inside museums and on private property.
 
2017-08-18 07:15:18 AM  
Wait, I thought the right was against removing confederate statues because they wanted to protect history?  Wouldn't vandalizing Union related statues indicate that they were really just pro-confederate, and thus pro-slavery/Jim Crow instead?
 
2017-08-18 07:28:41 AM  

Jim_Callahan: No statues for anyone.


Which actually isn't a bad idea. Statuary tends to glorify the use of power (noble or otherwise) and gloss over the bad deeds, then lock that view in place.

Also, marble and granite usually aren't dense enough to accurately depict politicians.
 
2017-08-18 07:30:19 AM  

Jim_Callahan: My Weeners was to equivocate on why just up and tearing down a KKK statue is fine while this isn't, but you know what?  Fine.  I'll buy that I can't complain too much if other groups do the same thing just because they're racist murderers and I'm not.  Sure, that's... technically ad-hominem, I guess, I'll concede it.

You win, little Cyclops.  We'll take down all the more mildly problematic statues too.  No statues for anyone.  Congratulations, you're so farking terrible that you've legitimately ruined literally the second-oldest human art form for everyone forever.  Your tantrum has convinced us.  From now on, statues may only exist inside museums and on private property.


            
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2017-08-18 07:39:40 AM  

Jim_Callahan: My Weeners was to equivocate on why just up and tearing down a KKK statue is fine while this isn't, but you know what?  Fine.  I'll buy that I can't complain too much if other groups do the same thing just because they're racist murderers and I'm not.  Sure, that's... technically ad-hominem, I guess, I'll concede it.

You win, little Cyclops.  We'll take down all the more mildly problematic statues too.  No statues for anyone.  Congratulations, you're so farking terrible that you've legitimately ruined literally the second-oldest human art form for everyone forever.  Your tantrum has convinced us.  From now on, statues may only exist inside museums and on private property.


fark off with your racist shiat. If you can't see the difference between Abraham Lincoln and a KKK member, you're the problem.
 
2017-08-18 07:47:10 AM  
Because, FARK STATUES! That's why!
 
2017-08-18 07:50:49 AM  

davidphogan: Action Replay Nick: I had "that racist uncle" growing up

I am related to people who voted for Trump.  It sucks.

Oddly I also am related to a few Republicans who thought he'd lose because they just didn't vote for a presidential candidate.  Difficulty: All those states went for Hilary.

I actually believe them, in part because one of them also is a bit of a historian, and as a Catholic who remembers WW2 happening when he was a child, he's said he is terrified of where things might be heading.  He once called Obama the anti-Christ, and we haven't talked about that since, but he denounced Trump at Xmas 2015 as being an enemy of all humanity.

I don't know what to think anymore.  Trump is making me appreciate that my Catholic family members actually believe in what Jesus taught and are just being loving and nice to everyone.  But then, they're all Yankees.


Give them (and yourself) time and pay attention, you will all get over it.
 
2017-08-18 07:59:51 AM  

stevecore: Normally I wouldn't put blame  like this out there,  but I am assuming this was a Trump supporter.  Everyone knows Lincoln was a well respected President who stood up against racism. This seems VERY suspicious they would burn his statue when pro Trumpers could scream "see!! They hate good America!!!"


Everyone knows a lot of things they have been told that are wrong. Try actually reading the Emancipation Proclamation and some of Lincoln's collected letters for yourself. A lot of stuff like that exists online from the National Archives, at least until they get burnt down by Revisionists.
 
2017-08-18 08:01:05 AM  
So this article failed to mention the response of noted Lincoln scholar Quintin Mitchell:

https://bluelivesmatter.blue/abe-lincoln-statue-vandalized/

I guess not everyone shares the same view of Lincoln.
 
2017-08-18 08:01:21 AM  
I've seen the right wing nuts trying to push "antifa did this!!" all over the internet yesterday. They are the goddamned stupidest people alive.
 
2017-08-18 08:05:01 AM  
if Google street view is any indicator, 1. They're using the term "Lincoln statue" loosely and 2. It was more than likely an attempt at a mercy killing.
 
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