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(MSNBC)   The CEO councils are gone, the GOP doesn't want to condemn Two Scoops specifically for his racist remarks, and Betsy DeVos is doubling down to push her agenda through. It's your Hayes/Maddow/O'Donnell discussion thread, starting at 8PM EDT   ( msnbc.com) divider line
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2017-08-16 05:29:20 PM  
Hey all, hope that everyone had a good day. The fallout from yesterday's speech is interesting, and I truly hope that it turns into a full-blown watershed that spells the beginning of the end. Hope springs eternal, as they say. I just want this nightmare to end...
 
2017-08-16 05:32:42 PM  

Anastacya: Hey all, hope that everyone had a good day. The fallout from yesterday's speech is interesting, and I truly hope that it turns into a full-blown watershed that spells the beginning of the end. Hope springs eternal, as they say. I just want this nightmare to end...


Sadly, only the CEO posse disbanded, not a single Republican leaving the party, resigning in protest, or doing anything other than saying farking words.
Shiat is going to have to keep getting worse before his party turns on him, and I want him to take down as many of them as possible on the way down.  So maybe not abandoning ship yet is for the better for us in the long run.
 
2017-08-16 05:39:31 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: Anastacya: Hey all, hope that everyone had a good day. The fallout from yesterday's speech is interesting, and I truly hope that it turns into a full-blown watershed that spells the beginning of the end. Hope springs eternal, as they say. I just want this nightmare to end...

Sadly, only the CEO posse disbanded, not a single Republican leaving the party, resigning in protest, or doing anything other than saying farking words.
Shiat is going to have to keep getting worse before his party turns on him, and I want him to take down as many of them as possible on the way down.  So maybe not abandoning ship yet is for the better for us in the long run.


And their words rang hollow. Actions speak louder. But, you do have a point. Them sticking around just piles up the argument that they are complicit in his incompetence. Bailing early will help them escape all of the tarnish. They need the taint to cling to them like the mark of the beast.
 
2017-08-16 05:43:13 PM  

Anastacya: Markoff_Cheney: Anastacya: Hey all, hope that everyone had a good day. The fallout from yesterday's speech is interesting, and I truly hope that it turns into a full-blown watershed that spells the beginning of the end. Hope springs eternal, as they say. I just want this nightmare to end...

Sadly, only the CEO posse disbanded, not a single Republican leaving the party, resigning in protest, or doing anything other than saying farking words.
Shiat is going to have to keep getting worse before his party turns on him, and I want him to take down as many of them as possible on the way down.  So maybe not abandoning ship yet is for the better for us in the long run.

And their words rang hollow. Actions speak louder. But, you do have a point. Them sticking around just piles up the argument that they are complicit in his incompetence. Bailing early will help them escape all a bit of the tarnish. They need the taint to cling to them like the mark of the beast.


FTFM.
 
2017-08-16 05:44:33 PM  
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also, hai ana! hopefully we're allowed to stay on the discussion page tonight rather than getting cross-posted again.
 
2017-08-16 05:45:00 PM  
I said this in another thread, but I think the GOP representatives in Congress have jumped off the trump train, largely, and now are all-in for their own agendas. Trump is going to find out, soon, that he works for them.

/that's going to surprise his ass
//and probably end poorly for both sides
 
2017-08-16 05:46:55 PM  
I heard Campbell and 3M left before the councils were dissolved, FWIW.  Partial credit to them.
 
2017-08-16 05:47:09 PM  

stickmangrit: [i.imgur.com image 499x240]

also, hai ana! hopefully we're allowed to stay on the discussion page tonight rather than getting cross-posted again.


Oh god, that movie.

And hallo :)
 
2017-08-16 05:47:20 PM  
I don't normally watch cable news, but I'm putting MSNBC on in the background these days just to give them ratings.
 
2017-08-16 05:48:54 PM  

dr_blasto: I said this in another thread, but I think the GOP representatives in Congress have jumped off the trump train, largely, and now are all-in for their own agendas. Trump is going to find out, soon, that he works for them.

/that's going to surprise his ass
//and probably end poorly for both sides


I see the GOP cowering in the bushes, waiting to see what happens, and not wanting to stick their necks out even a little bit.

They're all "deeply concerned" and "troubled".
 
2017-08-16 05:49:15 PM  
Subby, all of that is totally unsurprising.  The mainstream and extreme Republicans sold their farking souls to Donald Trump and his bullshiat so they could gain an advantage over the Dems and the rights to loot the Republic.  They hadn't figured that Donald Trump would end up being Donald Trump and fark up the entire act.

Meanwhile, you know who is absolutely ecstatic about how this is playing out?  Vladimir Putin.  He has managed to see his surrogate Donald Trump gain the Oval Office, diminish American influence and respect around the world and create utter chaos in the US government.  I have no solid evidence as to what the Russians did to aid Trump, but I am convinced they did offer something and Trump accepted and my hope is that Mueller substantiates what happened and Fake President Trump goes away to prison for a long, long time.
 
2017-08-16 05:52:28 PM  

Prey4reign: Fake President Trump goes away to prison for a long, long time


The lack of soft towels in prison would kill him inside of a month.
 
2017-08-16 05:54:01 PM  
I'm not smart enough so I'm asking you...

If that evil b*tch does this, how quickly can we fix it via Congress or a new President? Because this one does scare me.
 
2017-08-16 06:00:33 PM  

stickmangrit: [i.imgur.com image 499x240]

also, hai ana! hopefully we're allowed to stay on the discussion page tonight rather than getting cross-posted again.


Howdy hey.
Still at work with no idea if I will be around.
 
2017-08-16 06:04:15 PM  

NewportBarGuy: I'm not smart enough so I'm asking you...

If that evil b*tch does this, how quickly can we fix it via Congress or a new President? Because this one does scare me.


You mean DeVos? It really comes down to either the courts overturning any change as being illegal, or a new administration coming in and removing her to replace her with someone more sane. That and Congress. I am sure that someone else could phrase it better than I can.
 
2017-08-16 06:11:18 PM  

Anastacya: NewportBarGuy: I'm not smart enough so I'm asking you...

If that evil b*tch does this, how quickly can we fix it via Congress or a new President? Because this one does scare me.

You mean DeVos? It really comes down to either the courts overturning any change as being illegal, or a new administration coming in and removing her to replace her with someone more sane. That and Congress. I am sure that someone else could phrase it better than I can.


So... years. Motherf*cker. I'm telling you this right now... student loan debt has the potential to cause the next depression/recession. So many consumers saddled with non-dischargabke debt and now they want to destroy public schools.

This one thing can truly destroy our country in a heartbeat.
 
2017-08-16 06:12:36 PM  

NewportBarGuy: I'm not smart enough so I'm asking you...

If that evil b*tch does this, how quickly can we fix it via Congress or a new President? Because this one does scare me.


I think if the Democrats do get a majority in 2018 a lot of DeVos' crap will get thrown out. Her actions aren't super popular even among moderate repubs--remember she got in by a hair and only because Trump wanted to reward her family for as-yet-unspecified favors.
 
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2017-08-16 06:18:16 PM  
Hi all.  I hope we have a calmer evening.  I am glad we are seeing new people interested in this thread, and I hope they stick around, but being posted in Politics led to some unnecessary thread shiatting that I think at times got in the way of discussion.
 
2017-08-16 06:21:58 PM  

Boe: Hi all.  I hope we have a calmer evening.  I am glad we are seeing new people interested in this thread, and I hope they stick around, but being posted in Politics led to some unnecessary thread shiatting that I think at times got in the way of discussion.


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Welcome to fark. Just check your six and keep your head on a swivel. You're going to get hostility and it won't be pleasant. Don't feed the trolls and don't expect to change anyone's mind.

Here have a kitten.
 
2017-08-16 06:22:30 PM  

Boe: Hi all.  I hope we have a calmer evening.  I am glad we are seeing new people interested in this thread, and I hope they stick around, but being posted in Politics led to some unnecessary thread shiatting that I think at times got in the way of discussion.


I'm kidding I hope you know.
 
2017-08-16 06:26:39 PM  
evening all!

i have to say, this thread has provided me the rumor mill that the speculation threads used to have. Thanks for your breaking rumors, Clodcomplex
Abbey and I were watching the immediate aftermath of Trump's presser yesterday. She had a bit of a reaction (she kept this face the entire time the story was on)
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2017-08-16 06:27:55 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: stickmangrit: [i.imgur.com image 499x240]

also, hai ana! hopefully we're allowed to stay on the discussion page tonight rather than getting cross-posted again.

Howdy hey.
Still at work with no idea if I will be around.


Wish Trump had said that.
 
2017-08-16 06:28:40 PM  

clodcomplex: I heard Campbell and 3M left before the councils were dissolved, FWIW.  Partial credit to them.


i think Intel bailed out today too. Either today or late last night
 
2017-08-16 06:31:47 PM  
HI everyone.
I'm here, kind of.

Trying hard to stay sane today, can't promise anything.

Here's the border for the most recent quilt.
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Going to sew til Chris H, I'll be back.


What's the minor for tonight, kittens?
 
2017-08-16 06:32:51 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Boe: Hi all.  I hope we have a calmer evening.  I am glad we are seeing new people interested in this thread, and I hope they stick around, but being posted in Politics led to some unnecessary thread shiatting that I think at times got in the way of discussion.

[img.fark.net image 425x328]Welcome to fark. Just check your six and keep your head on a swivel. You're going to get hostility and it won't be pleasant. Don't feed the trolls and don't expect to change anyone's mind.

Here have a kitten.


That's a cutie.
 
Boe [TotalFark] [BareFark]
2017-08-16 06:33:32 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Boe: Hi all.  I hope we have a calmer evening.  I am glad we are seeing new people interested in this thread, and I hope they stick around, but being posted in Politics led to some unnecessary thread shiatting that I think at times got in the way of discussion.

[img.fark.net image 425x328]Welcome to fark. Just check your six and keep your head on a swivel. You're going to get hostility and it won't be pleasant. Don't feed the trolls and don't expect to change anyone's mind.

Here have a kitten.


KITTY!!

NewportBarGuy: Boe: Hi all.  I hope we have a calmer evening.  I am glad we are seeing new people interested in this thread, and I hope they stick around, but being posted in Politics led to some unnecessary thread shiatting that I think at times got in the way of discussion.

I'm kidding I hope you know.


KITTY!!
 
2017-08-16 06:37:53 PM  
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Dis my kitty :D
 
2017-08-16 06:41:10 PM  
I'm not going muck up this thread with inane comments.

Because I'm still awake from Tuesday.

// Unless something outrageous happens in the next two hours.
 
2017-08-16 06:42:22 PM  

somedude210: clodcomplex: I heard Campbell and 3M left before the councils were dissolved, FWIW.  Partial credit to them.

i think Intel bailed out today too. Either today or late last night


I believe Intel bailed about midnight of the day Merck did.
 
2017-08-16 06:46:03 PM  
All, yall have cute kitties. Meanwhile, I have derpasaurus.

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2017-08-16 06:52:32 PM  

mofa: I'm not going muck up this thread with inane comments.

Because I'm still awake from Tuesday.

// Unless something outrageous happens in the next two hours.


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2017-08-16 06:57:43 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Anastacya: NewportBarGuy: I'm not smart enough so I'm asking you...

If that evil b*tch does this, how quickly can we fix it via Congress or a new President? Because this one does scare me.

You mean DeVos? It really comes down to either the courts overturning any change as being illegal, or a new administration coming in and removing her to replace her with someone more sane. That and Congress. I am sure that someone else could phrase it better than I can.

So... years. Motherf*cker. I'm telling you this right now... student loan debt has the potential to cause the next depression/recession. So many consumers saddled with non-dischargabke debt and now they want to destroy public schools.

This one thing can truly destroy our country in a heartbeat.


I'm right there with you.   I HATE her.   I'm on the Income Based Plan that she wants to destroy, and I'm torn between being terrified and anger.
 
2017-08-16 07:01:00 PM  

Anastacya: All, yall have cute kitties. Meanwhile, I have derpasaurus.

[img.fark.net image 545x652]


That is a very good derpasaurus, very lively!
 
2017-08-16 07:07:42 PM  

somedude210: evening all!

i have to say, this thread has provided me the rumor mill that the speculation threads used to have. Thanks for your breaking rumors, Clodcomplex
Abbey and I were watching the immediate aftermath of Trump's presser yesterday. She had a bit of a reaction (she kept this face the entire time the story was on)[img.fark.net image 425x239]


No problem.  Just part of my larger twitter mining efforts really.
I know most people think they're full of crap, but I've never been one to rubber stamp conventional wisdom.
Everyone knew 12 packs had to be packaged 3 x 4 until someone came up with the fridge pack.

I'm prepared to be disappointed, but I fail to see what harm it does anyone to indulge in the rumors.
 
2017-08-16 07:14:40 PM  

raerae1980: NewportBarGuy: Anastacya: NewportBarGuy: I'm not smart enough so I'm asking you...

If that evil b*tch does this, how quickly can we fix it via Congress or a new President? Because this one does scare me.

You mean DeVos? It really comes down to either the courts overturning any change as being illegal, or a new administration coming in and removing her to replace her with someone more sane. That and Congress. I am sure that someone else could phrase it better than I can.

So... years. Motherf*cker. I'm telling you this right now... student loan debt has the potential to cause the next depression/recession. So many consumers saddled with non-dischargabke debt and now they want to destroy public schools.

This one thing can truly destroy our country in a heartbeat.

I'm right there with you.   I HATE her.   I'm on the Income Based Plan that she wants to destroy, and I'm torn between being terrified and anger.


I'm on the same plan PLUS I work for the Federal Government and should have my debt wiped out in a few years, but the want to wipe that out.

I don't care about me, I can fend for myself. I only owe $20k and could pay that off tomorrow. I AM worried about those with 100k plus who chose to work in rural areas to wipe out their debt. I can't tell you how many there are, it is a lot. Google it, there are many stories about providers in rural areas who are AWESOME and have saved many lives and they will be f*cked. And future generations will be f*cked.

These programs exist for a reason. If the mix them, people will die and the economy will collapse. This is a clear and present danger to the Republic.
 
2017-08-16 07:18:03 PM  

NewportBarGuy: raerae1980: NewportBarGuy: Anastacya: NewportBarGuy: I'm not smart enough so I'm asking you...

If that evil b*tch does this, how quickly can we fix it via Congress or a new President? Because this one does scare me.

You mean DeVos? It really comes down to either the courts overturning any change as being illegal, or a new administration coming in and removing her to replace her with someone more sane. That and Congress. I am sure that someone else could phrase it better than I can.

So... years. Motherf*cker. I'm telling you this right now... student loan debt has the potential to cause the next depression/recession. So many consumers saddled with non-dischargabke debt and now they want to destroy public schools.

This one thing can truly destroy our country in a heartbeat.

I'm right there with you.   I HATE her.   I'm on the Income Based Plan that she wants to destroy, and I'm torn between being terrified and anger.

I'm on the same plan PLUS I work for the Federal Government and should have my debt wiped out in a few years, but the want to wipe that out.

I don't care about me, I can fend for myself. I only owe $20k and could pay that off tomorrow. I AM worried about those with 100k plus who chose to work in rural areas to wipe out their debt. I can't tell you how many there are, it is a lot. Google it, there are many stories about providers in rural areas who are AWESOME and have saved many lives and they will be f*cked. And future generations will be f*cked.

These programs exist for a reason. If the mix them, people will die and the economy will collapse. This is a clear and present danger to the Republic.


I'm hoping to have mine wiped out in a few years too, I work for a non-profit museum, but I also still owe $110K.   I'm on pins and needles over this.   She kills this plan and i"m looking at financial hardships for a very long time.......just when my finances were getting better.
 
2017-08-16 07:24:28 PM  
A well educated public capable of critical thought is not in the Republican party's best interest.
 
2017-08-16 07:26:00 PM  
Greetings folks.  Not sure how long I'll last tonight.  I'm already nodding off. (But that might just be the Chris Matthews' effect.)
 
2017-08-16 07:26:31 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: dr_blasto: I said this in another thread, but I think the GOP representatives in Congress have jumped off the trump train, largely, and now are all-in for their own agendas. Trump is going to find out, soon, that he works for them.

/that's going to surprise his ass
//and probably end poorly for both sides

I see the GOP cowering in the bushes, waiting to see what happens, and not wanting to stick their necks out even a little bit.

They're all "deeply concerned" and "troubled".


That's my take on it.  Too gutless to be a standout GOP guy when you can blend into the background of people mumbling under their breath and looking at the floor.
 
2017-08-16 07:26:44 PM  
Pence returning early? Hopefully Trump will resign this week "for health reasons."
 
2017-08-16 07:28:49 PM  
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Why does this feel like Jeff Sessions looking to prove both sides are bad?
 
2017-08-16 07:28:59 PM  
I hope everyone is well this evening.
 
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2017-08-16 07:36:59 PM  
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2017-08-16 07:37:09 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Pence returning early? Hopefully Trump will resign this week "for health reasons."


They're going to Camp David!
 
2017-08-16 07:38:39 PM  
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2017-08-16 07:41:30 PM  
Coming in a bit late. Posted my kitty. He's a boss. Mr ForlornHope and I were keeping up with news while driving across country today. If orange shiatgibbon can refrain from destroying the world until after the eclipse, we'd appreciate it.
 
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