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(ESPN)   Eli Manning thinks he can play nearly as long as his brother, says he wants to play four more years   ( espn.com) divider line
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2017-08-16 09:47:42 AM  
We shall see, Eli.
 
2017-08-16 10:27:47 AM  
He has never missed a game right?
 
2017-08-16 10:56:13 AM  

Kornchex: He has never missed a game right?


So far. He got hurt in a game a few years ago and would've missed time but it was the last game of the season and the Giants weren't going to the post-season.
 
2017-08-16 11:21:49 AM  
Dude avoids tackles like a soccer player, don't see why not.
 
2017-08-16 11:59:31 AM  
Those super bowls are getting farther and farther back in the rear view mirror, Eli.
 
2017-08-16 12:55:40 PM  
What, does he want to go after Favre's interception record?
 
2017-08-16 01:27:54 PM  
Hard to believe he's 36.  Seems like yesterday he was moping around the draft floor for being taken #1 overall.  Where does the time go...
 
2017-08-16 01:39:55 PM  
I wonder if Eli will make the HOF...or if he is worthy.  Without those 2 superbowls, he'd be an afterthought.

/but, without SB III, no one would know who Joe Namath is.
 
2017-08-16 02:08:42 PM  
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2017-08-16 02:10:18 PM  

stir22: I wonder if Eli will make the HOF...or if he is worthy. Without those 2 superbowls, he'd be an afterthought.

/but, without SB III, no one would know who Joe Namath is.


Considering that New York barely tolerates him, I'd say it's 50/50.  He's not Broadway Joe.
 
2017-08-16 02:15:54 PM  

stir22: I wonder if Eli will make the HOF...or if he is worthy.  Without those 2 superbowls, he'd be an afterthought.

/but, without SB III, no one would know who Joe Namath is.


Beat Brady twice, good enough for me.
 
2017-08-16 02:23:34 PM  

bhcompy: Considering that New York barely tolerates him, I'd say it's 50/50.  He's not Broadway Joe.


How many starting quarterbacks have the Jets gone through in the time since Eli's first start?


...a tale of two cities, indeed.
 
2017-08-16 02:58:25 PM  

IHadMeAVision: bhcompy: Considering that New York barely tolerates him, I'd say it's 50/50.  He's not Broadway Joe.

How many starting quarterbacks have the Jets gone through in the time since Eli's first start?


...a tale of two cities, indeed.


I was curious so I looked it up. The Jets had 13 different starting QBs since 2004. Lol.
 
2017-08-16 03:38:46 PM  
Eli is going to the hall with no doubts. Hes top 10 all time in a couple major passing categories. The 2 superbowl MVPs push him over. Plus his longevity. If Drew Brees is a shoe in then this guy is definitely a first ballot choice.
 
2017-08-16 03:54:16 PM  
He's been pretty crappy the last couple years by whatever measurement you want to use:

By DVOA - 2013 was terrible, 2014 and 2015 were average to below average, 2016 was much below average.
By QBR - 2013 was a disaster. 2014 was good and 2015 and 2016 were below average.
By Passer Rating - 2013 just way bad. 2014 and 2015, well below average. 2016 above average.
 
2017-08-16 03:56:43 PM  

meanmutton: He's been pretty crappy the last couple years by whatever measurement you want to use:

By DVOA - 2013 was terrible, 2014 and 2015 were average to below average, 2016 was much below average.
By QBR - 2013 was a disaster. 2014 was good and 2015 and 2016 were below average.
By Passer Rating - 2013 just way bad. 2014 and 2015, well below average. 2016 above average.


That shows that those stats are garbage.  One says above average, one says way below for the same year.
 
2017-08-16 04:29:41 PM  

caleb4god: Eli is going to the hall with no doubts. Hes top 10 all time in a couple major passing categories. The 2 superbowl MVPs push him over. Plus his longevity. If Drew Brees is a shoe in then this guy is definitely a first ballot choice.


Eli's happend to be mediocre for a very very long time, a few times on very good teams. Drew's been one of the elite players in the league on terrible teams for a long time. Unfortunately, you can't get career numbers for DVOA or Total QBR but for passer rating, Brees has a career 96.3 (7th all time) and Eli has a career 83.7 (40th).

QBR does have a list of the best seasons in NFL history. Drew Brees has the 4th, 5th, 29th, 41st, 47th, 55th, 79th, 83rd, 95th, and 96th best seasons in NFL history - 10 of the top 100 of all time. Eli's best is the 36th and he also has the 84th and 92nd best. So, only 3 of the top 100.
 
2017-08-16 05:20:45 PM  

meanmutton: caleb4god: Eli is going to the hall with no doubts. Hes top 10 all time in a couple major passing categories. The 2 superbowl MVPs push him over. Plus his longevity. If Drew Brees is a shoe in then this guy is definitely a first ballot choice.

Eli's happend to be mediocre for a very very long time, a few times on very good teams. Drew's been one of the elite players in the league on terrible teams for a long time. Unfortunately, you can't get career numbers for DVOA or Total QBR but for passer rating, Brees has a career 96.3 (7th all time) and Eli has a career 83.7 (40th).

QBR does have a list of the best seasons in NFL history. Drew Brees has the 4th, 5th, 29th, 41st, 47th, 55th, 79th, 83rd, 95th, and 96th best seasons in NFL history - 10 of the top 100 of all time. Eli's best is the 36th and he also has the 84th and 92nd best. So, only 3 of the top 100.


Drew had perhaps the best receiving corps in football last year and guess what...a 3rd straight 7-9 season. And lets not forget about him coming in down 30 a few yrs ago against the rams to make sure he kept that td streak alive. And the contract holdout. Also, hes thrown more career ints than Eli and has one less ring. Don't cherry pick your stats. They can both play but neither one has lived up to what you consider a HOFer, yet both will be in Canton.
 
2017-08-16 05:29:09 PM  

caleb4god: Also, hes thrown more career ints than Eli


I didn't know that was possible.

Seriously though, the top of the "interceptions thrown" list is pretty much a list of the best QBs. Not a lot of folks get opportunities to throw that many.
 
2017-08-16 05:45:48 PM  

IHadMeAVision: caleb4god: Also, hes thrown more career ints than Eli

I didn't know that was possible.

Seriously though, the top of the "interceptions thrown" list is pretty much a list of the best QBs. Not a lot of folks get opportunities to throw that many.


Very true. You don't get to throw that many ints without longevity because your upside is worth it. Or maybe it's just coaching ineptitude to leave a proven loser in the game and not move on coupled with some lucky seasons and rules that protect qbs so numbers are inflated. They both have seen a LOT of garbage time in their careers. It's getting close to the end for Eli and Drew. This season will make or break their careers with their respective teams. I can see both qbs in different uniforms next year.
 
2017-08-16 06:09:14 PM  

caleb4god: meanmutton: caleb4god: Eli is going to the hall with no doubts. Hes top 10 all time in a couple major passing categories. The 2 superbowl MVPs push him over. Plus his longevity. If Drew Brees is a shoe in then this guy is definitely a first ballot choice.

Eli's happend to be mediocre for a very very long time, a few times on very good teams. Drew's been one of the elite players in the league on terrible teams for a long time. Unfortunately, you can't get career numbers for DVOA or Total QBR but for passer rating, Brees has a career 96.3 (7th all time) and Eli has a career 83.7 (40th).

QBR does have a list of the best seasons in NFL history. Drew Brees has the 4th, 5th, 29th, 41st, 47th, 55th, 79th, 83rd, 95th, and 96th best seasons in NFL history - 10 of the top 100 of all time. Eli's best is the 36th and he also has the 84th and 92nd best. So, only 3 of the top 100.

Drew had perhaps the best receiving corps in football last year and guess what...a 3rd straight 7-9 season. And lets not forget about him coming in down 30 a few yrs ago against the rams to make sure he kept that td streak alive. And the contract holdout. Also, hes thrown more career ints than Eli and has one less ring. Don't cherry pick your stats. They can both play but neither one has lived up to what you consider a HOFer, yet both will be in Canton.


I'm using the three most popular means of comprehensively rating a quarterback (QBR, Passer Rating, and DVOA) in these discussions. I don't know what could possibly be less "cherry picking" and more comprehensive.

Eli's been mediocre to sub average for years. He's never had a truly elite year. Drew's had some of the very best years in football history.
 
2017-08-16 06:11:09 PM  
If wins mean the most, which they should, heres a list of qbs with better win loss percentages than both drew and eli with at least 90 starts: Brady, Rodgers, Ben, Flacco, Romo, Ryan, Dalton, Alex Smith. Drews at .564, Elis at .550. Thats barely .500...
 
2017-08-16 06:11:48 PM  

meanmutton: caleb4god: meanmutton: caleb4god: Eli is going to the hall with no doubts. Hes top 10 all time in a couple major passing categories. The 2 superbowl MVPs push him over. Plus his longevity. If Drew Brees is a shoe in then this guy is definitely a first ballot choice.

Eli's happend to be mediocre for a very very long time, a few times on very good teams. Drew's been one of the elite players in the league on terrible teams for a long time. Unfortunately, you can't get career numbers for DVOA or Total QBR but for passer rating, Brees has a career 96.3 (7th all time) and Eli has a career 83.7 (40th).

QBR does have a list of the best seasons in NFL history. Drew Brees has the 4th, 5th, 29th, 41st, 47th, 55th, 79th, 83rd, 95th, and 96th best seasons in NFL history - 10 of the top 100 of all time. Eli's best is the 36th and he also has the 84th and 92nd best. So, only 3 of the top 100.

Drew had perhaps the best receiving corps in football last year and guess what...a 3rd straight 7-9 season. And lets not forget about him coming in down 30 a few yrs ago against the rams to make sure he kept that td streak alive. And the contract holdout. Also, hes thrown more career ints than Eli and has one less ring. Don't cherry pick your stats. They can both play but neither one has lived up to what you consider a HOFer, yet both will be in Canton.

I'm using the three most popular means of comprehensively rating a quarterback (QBR, Passer Rating, and DVOA) in these discussions. I don't know what could possibly be less "cherry picking" and more comprehensive.

Eli's been mediocre to sub average for years. He's never had a truly elite year. Drew's had some of the very best years in football history.


Yet never an MVP.
 
2017-08-17 01:02:55 PM  

cefm: Those super bowls are getting farther and farther back in the rear view mirror, Eli.


Yet he has them.  Right now Matty Ice wishes he had one if he didn't choke it away.
 
2017-08-17 01:04:06 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: IHadMeAVision: bhcompy: Considering that New York barely tolerates him, I'd say it's 50/50.  He's not Broadway Joe.

How many starting quarterbacks have the Jets gone through in the time since Eli's first start?


...a tale of two cities, indeed.

I was curious so I looked it up. The Jets had 13 different starting QBs since 2004. Lol.


Exactly; gimme Eli and a chance to win a game rather than the plight of Jets fans. XD
 
2017-08-17 01:40:14 PM  

Rwa2play: Igor Jakovsky: IHadMeAVision: bhcompy: Considering that New York barely tolerates him, I'd say it's 50/50. He's not Broadway Joe.

How many starting quarterbacks have the Jets gone through in the time since Eli's first start?


...a tale of two cities, indeed.

I was curious so I looked it up. The Jets had 13 different starting QBs since 2004. Lol.

Exactly; gimme Eli and a chance to win a game rather than the plight of Jets fans. XD


Gotta love that faint praise
 
2017-08-17 02:47:22 PM  

bhcompy: Rwa2play: Igor Jakovsky: IHadMeAVision: bhcompy: Considering that New York barely tolerates him, I'd say it's 50/50. He's not Broadway Joe.

How many starting quarterbacks have the Jets gone through in the time since Eli's first start?


...a tale of two cities, indeed.

I was curious so I looked it up. The Jets had 13 different starting QBs since 2004. Lol.

Exactly; gimme Eli and a chance to win a game rather than the plight of Jets fans. XD

Gotta love that faint praise


If winning two SBs with him is "faint praise"; how many NFL fans you think would love to do the same?
 
2017-08-17 02:51:28 PM  

Rwa2play: bhcompy: Rwa2play: Igor Jakovsky: IHadMeAVision: bhcompy: Considering that New York barely tolerates him, I'd say it's 50/50. He's not Broadway Joe.

How many starting quarterbacks have the Jets gone through in the time since Eli's first start?


...a tale of two cities, indeed.

I was curious so I looked it up. The Jets had 13 different starting QBs since 2004. Lol.

Exactly; gimme Eli and a chance to win a game rather than the plight of Jets fans. XD

Gotta love that faint praise

If winning two SBs with him is "faint praise"; how many NFL fans you think would love to do the same?


"Well, it's better than the Jets, so I guess that's okay"

Eli isn't Broadway Joe.  Hell, I think Kerry Collins got more respect in New York.
 
2017-08-17 03:26:35 PM  

bhcompy: "Well, it's better than the Jets, so I guess that's okay"

Eli isn't Broadway Joe.


You're right: Eli's won two SBs.  Hey Namath will always get props for calling his shot v. the Colts and deservedly so but...did Namath do anything of merit close to getting to another conf. title game, much less win another SB?
 
2017-08-17 03:49:04 PM  

Rwa2play: bhcompy: "Well, it's better than the Jets, so I guess that's okay"

Eli isn't Broadway Joe.

You're right: Eli's won two SBs. Hey Namath will always get props for calling his shot v. the Colts and deservedly so but...did Namath do anything of merit close to getting to another conf. title game, much less win another SB?


You and I both know that Namath is a legend in NY and Eli is not.  It doesn't matter what they won.  Namath is on Jeter and Mariano's level, though from a different time so it's faded.  Eli is not even close.
 
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