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(BBC-US)   That sunken private Danish submarine accident is now considered deliberate and has become a murder investigation   ( bbc.com) divider line
    More: Followup, Mr Madsen, Ms Wall, 46-year-old Peter Madsen, Thursday evening, missing Swedish journalist, Kim Wall, chief Jens Moller  
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2017-08-13 09:55:01 AM  
Suspect allegedly heard responding with "And I would have gotten away with it too, had I not spent years crowdfunding my murder weapon!"
 
2017-08-13 10:13:22 AM  
What a horrible way to die, if she was alive when the sub went down. I wonder what she found out that would make him want to kill her... unless, of course, he did something horrible. Either way, pretty messed up scenario all around.
 
2017-08-13 10:22:03 AM  
It was Reptilicus!

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2017-08-13 11:28:40 AM  
I'm thinking he grabbed her ass as a crude "come on", she went flying off the handle, he had something in his hand and clocked her good and hard with it, she died or was severely wounded and they scuttled the sub as a quick and dirty means of a cover up
 
2017-08-13 11:55:35 AM  
I knew that days and days ago....just didn't submit a headline.  Submitted one about a guy putting a bag over a donkey's head and farking it instead.
 
2017-08-13 11:58:17 AM  
Don't all submarines sink deliberately?
 
2017-08-13 12:01:18 PM  
So the submarine worked.
 
2017-08-13 12:03:03 PM  
Something is rotten in the submarine of Denmark.
 
2017-08-13 12:03:15 PM  

Anastacya: What a horrible way to die, if she was alive when the sub went down. I wonder what she found out that would make him want to kill her... unless, of course, he did something horrible. Either way, pretty messed up scenario all around.


RTFA. They raised the sub and she was not in it.
 
2017-08-13 12:03:16 PM  
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2017-08-13 12:03:38 PM  
A picture of the suspect:

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2017-08-13 12:03:43 PM  
she was embarassed to find out what all submariners know.

when a woman goes down in a submarine she gets wet
 
2017-08-13 12:06:48 PM  
Columbo could figure it out.
 
2017-08-13 12:10:21 PM  
This sounds positively Columbo-esque.
 
2017-08-13 12:17:22 PM  
Was hoping those were all euphemisms.

'Submarine accident' and 'sunken private Danish' c'mon how can that not be? I was blatantly mislead.

/am disappoint
 
2017-08-13 12:19:31 PM  

hashtag.acronym: I knew that days and days ago....just didn't submit a headline.  Submitted one about a guy putting a bag over a donkey's head and farking it instead.


Know your audience, lol.

In regards to TFA:

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2017-08-13 12:21:31 PM  
i think i'd pass if offered a trip in a homemade submarine.
 
2017-08-13 12:22:07 PM  

Mister Buttons: hashtag.acronym: I knew that days and days ago....just didn't submit a headline.  Submitted one about a guy putting a bag over a donkey's head and farking it instead.

Know your audience, lol.

In regards to TFA:

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We did have that donkey gangbang article, so I can understand why my single guy in Arkansas getting some ass was passed over.
 
2017-08-13 12:32:57 PM  

Carousel Beast: Don't all submarines sink deliberately?


Anyone can sink a submarine, it takes talent to bring one back to the surface.
 
2017-08-13 12:34:59 PM  
Is there a Dutch version of Law and Order?
 
2017-08-13 12:38:01 PM  
Any man over 40 in a costume is obviously part of a con

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/get it?
 
2017-08-13 12:42:22 PM  

maxandgrinch: Any man over 40 in a costume is obviously part of a con

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/get it?


When the A-10 is flying, going VROOOOOOM, it fires a gun that sounds like BRRRTTT...can I have some of those fries?
 
2017-08-13 12:43:12 PM  
The "lost at sea" thing has been used so much by people trying to fake their own death, or by murderers trying to make the police look somewhere other than the woods behind the house here a shallow grave is, that it immediately creates extra suspicion.

Police who might've otherwise just considered it another "missing person" report will start taking a closer look, and be prepared for a small army of private investigators to get involved if a claim is filed with an insurance company.
 
2017-08-13 12:50:20 PM  
An independent mariner, Kristian Isbak, who was helping search for the sub says he saw Madsen standing atop the floating sub, go down inside and come back up.  Then within 15 seconds the sub was below water.
 
2017-08-13 12:57:17 PM  
Hagbard Celine has really fallen on rough times.
 
2017-08-13 12:59:05 PM  

How dry I'm not: The "lost at sea" thing has been used so much by people trying to fake their own death, or by murderers trying to make the police look somewhere other than the woods behind the house here a shallow grave is, that it immediately creates extra suspicion.

Police who might've otherwise just considered it another "missing person" report will start taking a closer look, and be prepared for a small army of private investigators to get involved if a claim is filed with an insurance company.


But the fake deathers usually go out alone.

You're saying she is faking her own death to get this guy locked up?

Because of PETA and he ran into a whale? Perhaps it is revenge because he stole the idea from her dad, who dreamed of a small submarine in the dock of every house, who died in a suspicious titanium welding accident while teaching girlscouts to weld? Or is it that he has found proof underwater of the long lost connection between star crossed lovers, Bigfoot and Sasquatch, who are in reality the last two survivors of Atlantis and they asked her to help breed their...... Atlantean hairiness, and she's trying to get him put away so nobody will look for her and Prince will be able to come out of hiding too?
 
2017-08-13 01:03:52 PM  
Wouldn't it have been a lot easier and convenient to say she was swept overboard while they were surfaced for pictures?

Hell of lot cheaper to chain her up to weight down her body and chuck it over the side. Clean up any messes and call in a mayday.

Then again sculling your million dollar sub simply to kill someone does make the story sound more plausible, as who'd want to waste that much work and assets to accomplish what a random crackhead would do for a few grand.
 
2017-08-13 01:03:55 PM  
Dutch rudder failure?
 
2017-08-13 01:05:07 PM  
He might have been able to get her out of the submarine as he scuttled it, but I doubt that he had time to effectively weight the body.  If so, it's just a matter of time until the body is found.

For an education on how things might turn out here, do a web search on "Scott Peterson" or "Laci Peterson".  Note that Scott Peterson did a presentable job of weighting the body.
 
2017-08-13 01:07:14 PM  

Anastacya: What a horrible way to die, if she was alive when the sub went down. I wonder what she found out that would make him want to kill her... unless, of course, he did something horrible. Either way, pretty messed up scenario all around.


Nice 'Fark The Article, I Don't Read No Stinking Articles' comment.
 
2017-08-13 01:08:14 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Carousel Beast: Don't all submarines sink deliberately?

Anyone can sink a submarine, it takes talent to bring one back to the surface.


It just takes a farkload of ping pong balls or loose polystyrene or some lift bags. depends how deep and if you can use divers or need rov's.

/done plenty of wreck recoveries.
//if it went down with a hatch open it's probably nearly 100% intact.
 
2017-08-13 01:08:36 PM  

rcain: I'm thinking he grabbed her ass as a crude "come on", she went flying off the handle, he had something in his hand and clocked her good and hard with it, she died or was severely wounded and they scuttled the sub as a quick and dirty means of a cover up


It's Denmark, so you know there was some creepy sex stuff to go with the murder.

/Yeah, I watched all three series of Forbrydelsen
//It's always creepy sex stuff.
///Then the slashes begin.
 
2017-08-13 01:09:14 PM  
That seems like an awful lot of unnecessary effort that screams of cover-up.
 
2017-08-13 01:11:42 PM  

maxandgrinch: You're saying she is faking her own death to get this guy locked up?


That hadn't occurred to me, and I'm not sure how you could've gotten that from anything I posted.

I'm equally baffled by the rest, where you prattle on nonsensically about bigfoot and other assorted twaddle, so I'll just chalk it up to you being a bit batty.
 
2017-08-13 01:13:16 PM  

sardonicobserver: He might have been able to get her out of the submarine as he scuttled it, but I doubt that he had time to effectively weight the body.  If so, it's just a matter of time until the body is found.

For an education on how things might turn out here, do a web search on "Scott Peterson" or "Laci Peterson".  Note that Scott Peterson did a presentable job of weighting the body.


That's a name I haven't heard for a while.

Like a Making a Murderer? There's a Scott Peterson version coming.
 
2017-08-13 01:14:28 PM  

GungFu: Anastacya: What a horrible way to die, if she was alive when the sub went down. I wonder what she found out that would make him want to kill her... unless, of course, he did something horrible. Either way, pretty messed up scenario all around.

Nice 'Fark The Article, I Don't Read No Stinking Articles' comment.


*bows*
 
2017-08-13 01:23:24 PM  

maxandgrinch: How dry I'm not: The "lost at sea" thing has been used so much by people trying to fake their own death, or by murderers trying to make the police look somewhere other than the woods behind the house here a shallow grave is, that it immediately creates extra suspicion.

Police who might've otherwise just considered it another "missing person" report will start taking a closer look, and be prepared for a small army of private investigators to get involved if a claim is filed with an insurance company.

But the fake deathers usually go out alone.

You're saying she is faking her own death to get this guy locked up?


I think he's just saying, "when you murder someone and 'lose' the body at sea, it's actually *not* a good plan because the police have learned to expect that sort of thing."
 
2017-08-13 01:31:19 PM  
Sank in 30 seconds? While surfaced? That's one really poorly designed submarine. How much reserve buoyancy did it have? Generally speaking 10-13% is usually considered adequate for anything that submerges and has a people tank. If so that had to be one hell of a big hole to flood it out in 30 seconds which would be another major design flaw. Basically you'd have to submerge with an open hatch to do that.
 
2017-08-13 01:37:47 PM  

big pig peaches: Is there a Dutch version of Law and Order?


fat boy: Dutch rudder failure?


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2017-08-13 01:43:30 PM  
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Sinks in 30 seconds
Dissolves in 60...
 
2017-08-13 01:46:51 PM  
This is such a weird story. Why murder a reporter who's there to write a fluff piece on you and if it was an accident why lie and try to hide evidence? She got on a homemade submarine of her own free will, a deadly accident would be sad but not particularly surprising or criminal.
 
2017-08-13 01:55:15 PM  

inglixthemad: sardonicobserver: He might have been able to get her out of the submarine as he scuttled it, but I doubt that he had time to effectively weight the body.  If so, it's just a matter of time until the body is found.

For an education on how things might turn out here, do a web search on "Scott Peterson" or "Laci Peterson".  Note that Scott Peterson did a presentable job of weighting the body.

That's a name I haven't heard for a while.

Like a Making a Murderer? There's a Scott Peterson version coming.


That case came to mind because I recall the unborn baby coming to the surface first, then the mother's body was found.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Peterson#Recovery_of_Laci.27s_and​_​Conner.27s_remains

Back to the case at hand, if the depth where the submarine first sank is not too deep, and the corpse is not carried away by currents, they should find it in a few days even if it doesn't surface.

I would also search along the track of the submarine between the place in which Kim Wall was last seen and the place it sank.
 
2017-08-13 02:12:19 PM  

thatguyoverthere70: Suspect allegedly heard responding with "And I would have gotten away with it too, had I not spent years crowdfunding my murder weapon!"


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2017-08-13 02:13:10 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: This is such a weird story. Why murder a reporter who's there to write a fluff piece on you and if it was an accident why lie and try to hide evidence? She got on a homemade submarine of her own free will, a deadly accident would be sad but not particularly surprising or criminal.


Descriptions from Copenhagan Suborbitals (who owned the sub at one point) point out that Peter Madsen  is rather strange.  It is entirely possible that Peter Madsen would kill a reporter to prevent her from reporting on various things in his life, even things in his life a normal person wouldn't mind seeing in print.  While getting on a homemade submarine of her own free will and later dying on it might be reasonable, it seems unlikely that she managed to get out of it and still died (presumably you can only get out when it is fairly shallow).
 
2017-08-13 02:17:52 PM  

swahnhennessy: Hagbard Celine has really fallen on rough times.


That book was the biggest waste of time ever. I wish I could unread it.
 
2017-08-13 02:22:06 PM  

yet_another_wumpus: (presumably you can only get out when it is fairly shallow).


700' with a Stenke Hood, ~400' without. Provided that you've had some training and you have an open hatch.
 
2017-08-13 02:28:11 PM  

kvinesknows: she was embarassed to find out what all submariners know.

when a woman goes down in a submarine she gets wet


That's why all submarines are filled with...okay well, that was too easy.
 
2017-08-13 02:53:21 PM  

Carousel Beast: Don't all submarines sink deliberately?


That's the easy part. The part that takes skill is having them come back up again. That's why the Navy sends you to school for that shiat.
 
2017-08-13 02:54:37 PM  
That's awesome! He crowd-funded a murder weapon.

Do the folks who contributed for that sub get charged as accessories after the fact?
 
2017-08-13 03:00:58 PM  
Why are they farking around with that sub? Don't they watch movies? The sub obviously found something...something not meant for man. Like some sort of virus or parasite or alien life form that takes over your body and turns you into a monster. The brave souls on that sub scuttled it to prevent the virus from getting out, and dooming the Earth. And then you know that part of the movie where the rescue team goes down, enters the sub, finds it deserted, except for some apocalyptic logs, and then everything is sort of okay for a little bit, until one guy wanders off on his own and is exposed and then starts attacking everyone else? That's where we are right now! Any salvage crews that make contact with that sub must absolutely NOT be allowed to return to the surface.
Nuke the site from the ship. It's the only way to be sure.
 
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