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(Washington Post)   30 children die from lack of oxygen in India due to an unpaid bill   ( washingtonpost.com) divider line
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2017-08-13 01:04:17 AM  
At least 30 children died Thursday and into Friday at a hospital in the northern Indian state of Uttar Pradesh after its supply of liquid oxygen was disrupted over an unpaid bill

Hooray for free markets!
 
2017-08-13 01:05:40 AM  

Sid_6.7: At least 30 children died Thursday and into Friday at a hospital in the northern Indian state of Uttar Pradesh after its supply of liquid oxygen was disrupted over an unpaid bill

Hooray for free markets!


The Free Market made a decision!

/isn't it beautiful?
 
2017-08-13 01:12:30 AM  
The invisible hand was clasped firmly over their mouths.
 
2017-08-13 01:18:46 AM  
Welcome to Trump's India
 
2017-08-13 03:20:12 AM  
coming soon, to a US hospital near YOU!
 
2017-08-13 06:28:02 AM  
Hey guys. I just woke up from a 3 year coma and hit refresh. I don't see why the other comments are so negative - that could never happen here.
 
2017-08-13 06:28:26 AM  
India Arie?
 
2017-08-13 06:31:58 AM  

Sid_6.7: At least 30 children died Thursday and into Friday at a hospital in the northern Indian state of Uttar Pradesh after its supply of liquid oxygen was disrupted over an unpaid bill

Hooray for free markets!


Aint capitalism great!
 
2017-08-13 06:32:01 AM  
The hospital owed $89,750 to a Lucknow-based medical supply company called Pushpa Sales Private Limited, documents obtained by The Washington Post show, and the firm had written letters to the hospital and district magistrate for the past six months demanding payment. The company asserted that the hospital was violating the terms of its contract by running a balance of more than $15,625. The agreement expired July 31, and Pushpa discontinued the oxygen supply Aug. 4.

the state's chief minister, Yogi Adityanath, called the tragedy despicable and said the state had set up a committee to investigate the role of the oxygen vendor.


I think you are investigating the wrong people. Can't be the fault of the government people in charge of the hospital, right?
 
2017-08-13 06:32:50 AM  
In large chunks of Africa, having relatives pump your air bag manually is unfortunately standard procedure.
 
2017-08-13 06:33:08 AM  

optikeye: The invisible hand was clasped firmly over their mouths.


The 1%s hand
 
2017-08-13 06:34:12 AM  

Weaver95: coming soon, to a US hospital near YOU!


For profit healthdontcare has its downsides.
 
2017-08-13 06:42:22 AM  
The vendor isn't running a charity. Rack up a big enough unpaid delinquent bill and they'll eventually stop supplying.

This is entirely on the people responsible for making sure the bills get paid.
 
2017-08-13 06:52:53 AM  
They would have opened a windows, but it was a little chilly.
 
2017-08-13 06:57:14 AM  

Kouta: The vendor isn't running a charity. Rack up a big enough unpaid delinquent bill and they'll eventually stop supplying.

This is entirely on the people responsible for making sure the bills get paid.


This is fark, where the supplier is an evil person for not going into debt and the hospital deserves no blame.
 
2017-08-13 07:04:42 AM  
Ahh. I see American health care has come to India. Good luck!
 
2017-08-13 07:07:56 AM  

Sid_6.7: its supply of liquid oxygen was disrupted over an unpaid bill


Not enough and you're gonna die
 
2017-08-13 07:08:56 AM  
Sounds more like "due to a giant stack of unpaid bills", with countless reminders sent to both the hospital AND the regional government offices.
 
2017-08-13 07:14:43 AM  
The.vendor gave notice when the agreement would end, and even supplied O2 several days past the date.
This is the Governmet run hospitals fault. Ain't Government run hospitals great?
 
2017-08-13 07:23:17 AM  
Yay!  The system works!! \o/
 
2017-08-13 07:30:13 AM  
I wonder if the hospital figured they wouldn't cut them off knowing how critical the air was?

Vendor called their bluff.
 
2017-08-13 07:31:20 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: The.vendor gave notice when the agreement would end, and even supplied O2 several days past the date.
This is the Governmet run hospitals fault. Ain't Government run hospitals great?


The hospital was at FOUR TIMES its contractual credit limit to the supplier.

/India would be a superpower in only two years if it wasn't for all the corruption and bureaucracy there
//as it stands, nothing will ever improve
///just the opposite. With over a billion people to feed and take care of, I give them MAXIMUM of 5 years before the riots and breakaway countries. Five.
 
2017-08-13 07:35:16 AM  
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2017-08-13 07:36:11 AM  

Jesus McSordid: They would have opened a windows, but it was a little chilly.


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2017-08-13 07:40:33 AM  

Sid_6.7: At least 30 children died Thursday and into Friday at a hospital in the northern Indian state of Uttar Pradesh after its supply of liquid oxygen was disrupted over an unpaid bill

Hooray for free markets!


phrawgh: Sid_6.7: At least 30 children died Thursday and into Friday at a hospital in the northern Indian state of Uttar Pradesh after its supply of liquid oxygen was disrupted over an unpaid bill

Hooray for free markets!

The Free Market made a decision!

/isn't it beautiful?


fta: oxygen supplies at the government hospital ran dangerously low.

They owed money and didn't pay it. If the oxygen was about to run out they should have made arrangements with another supplier, or maybe just paid their damn bill.
 
2017-08-13 07:47:07 AM  

Sid_6.7: At least 30 children died Thursday and into Friday at a hospital in the northern Indian state of Uttar Pradesh after its supply of liquid oxygen was disrupted over an unpaid bill

Hooray for free markets!


Yes it would be so much better if no one paid the oxygen supplier. Then force people to work there without compensation, to produce the oxygen and transport it

Until the equipment breaks down and tens of thousands die.
 
2017-08-13 07:53:28 AM  
Sounds like government officials should be arrested for not paying the bills.
 
2017-08-13 07:53:41 AM  

Kouta: The vendor isn't running a charity. Rack up a big enough unpaid delinquent bill and they'll eventually stop supplying.

This is entirely on the people responsible for making sure the bills get paid.


They had enough money for a new unit, but not enough for the O2 bill.
 
2017-08-13 07:57:31 AM  
But they were surrounded by oxygen! I blame laziness, and a lack of bootstraps to pull up.
 
2017-08-13 07:58:10 AM  
As horrific as that situation was, at least it wasn't SOP.

The article has a link about India's "sterization camps" that seems WAY more farked up.
 
2017-08-13 07:59:25 AM  

Nick Nostril: Ahh. I see American health care has come to India. Good luck!


Indian medical care has always been worse. They don't have anything like Medicare. No money? No care.
 
2017-08-13 08:03:20 AM  
Since the kids paid the ultimate price, is the balance reset to 0?
 
2017-08-13 08:09:30 AM  
What's the vendor supposed to do?  They don't get paid, they go out of business, and multiple hospitals then lose their oxygen supply?

I'm not sure how any economic system is some sort of miraculous cure for this.  Underfunded is underfunded, no matter what economic system is in place.
 
2017-08-13 08:11:44 AM  
Too much oxygen is also a bad thing. I dated a guy who had been born a preemie. When he was in the NICU, one of the staff had the oxygen turned up too high. It blinded him.

Can you imagine going through life blind because of human error?

/// Poor babies.
 
2017-08-13 08:21:36 AM  
I don't get why people just don't offer their goods and services for free, comrade. We would do better to be more like that one communistic country that is thriving...
 
2017-08-13 08:26:17 AM  

stirfrybry: Kouta: The vendor isn't running a charity. Rack up a big enough unpaid delinquent bill and they'll eventually stop supplying.

This is entirely on the people responsible for making sure the bills get paid.

This is fark, where the supplier is an evil person for not going into debt and the hospital deserves no blame.


It's going to be those who share the same business ethics as GM and many other American companies.  Ford learned to not do that from competitors.  While GM still screws over suppliers, and one did close back during the bailout, because GM got out of paying them.  Anyone remember Delphi.  I know Flint sure does.  Daily, I drive by where they're still tearing down the old Delphi plant.
 
2017-08-13 08:29:12 AM  
Unlike the first 20 posters, I actually RFTA. the government run hospital chose not to pay its bills. the free market didn't. In fact the supplier kept supplying for free after the contract ran out. typical liberal handout nonsense. If no one paid the O2 supplier those poor kids would have run out of O2 well before today.

So redirect your vitriol whe it belongs -- right at the government  bureaucrats responsible for continuing ignoring their duties even after countless pleas from the supplier.
 
2017-08-13 08:37:38 AM  
A lot of people in this thread that think that paying bills is more important than living.

And I assume they all call themselves pro life.
 
2017-08-13 08:53:38 AM  
I'm so tired of living in a world with people who think quality healthcare is a privilege and not a right. Those same people also think everyone should be healthy and able enough to support themselves as productivr members of society. Just fark right off and die, will ya?
 
2017-08-13 09:07:47 AM  

Kouta: The vendor isn't running a charity. Rack up a big enough unpaid delinquent bill and they'll eventually stop supplying.

This is entirely on the people responsible for making sure the bills get paid.


This is fark.  Where anyone or any business that is successful, obviously did it with dad's/the government's money, or off the backs of suffering, and if you have 3 pennies in your pocket you should give 2.5 of them away.
 
2017-08-13 09:09:45 AM  
"Public health care is free for people below the poverty line".

Free health care, but not enough to go around?  Could that happen here?
 
2017-08-13 09:10:03 AM  

Nogale: Too much oxygen is also a bad thing. I dated a guy who had been born a preemie. When he was in the NICU, one of the staff had the oxygen turned up too high. It blinded him.

Can you imagine going through life blind because of human error?

/// Poor babies.


Oxygen is like love.

You get too much, you get too high. Not enough and you're gonna die.

/Hey, that could make a good song!
 
2017-08-13 09:15:30 AM  
The state's health minister and hospital officials have denied charges that the deaths were caused by the oxygen bill dispute. An estimated 60 children have died at the hospital since Aug. 7 from a variety of causes, officials said.

"Don't be ridiculous. It wasn't the bill. Kids die at our hospital all the time from all kinds of stuff!"
 
2017-08-13 09:20:40 AM  
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Did they run out of cans?
 
2017-08-13 09:24:15 AM  

Ker_Thwap: What's the vendor supposed to do?  They don't get paid, they go out of business, and multiple hospitals then lose their oxygen supply?

I'm not sure how any economic system is some sort of miraculous cure for this.  Underfunded is underfunded, no matter what economic system is in place.


Call me crazy, but I have to imagine that there's a solution somewhere between "company goes bankrupt" and "THIRTY DEAD CHILDREN."

Here in Maine, under most conditions, it's actually illegal to disconnect someone's heat or power for nonpayment in the winter.

I'm a little shocked by the number of people in this thread who are perfectly okay with this response. I really shouldn't be. I run into people who think money is more important than human lives every day.
 
2017-08-13 09:37:39 AM  

peasandcarrots: Ker_Thwap: What's the vendor supposed to do?  They don't get paid, they go out of business, and multiple hospitals then lose their oxygen supply?

I'm not sure how any economic system is some sort of miraculous cure for this.  Underfunded is underfunded, no matter what economic system is in place.

Call me crazy, but I have to imagine that there's a solution somewhere between "company goes bankrupt" and "THIRTY DEAD CHILDREN."

Here in Maine, under most conditions, it's actually illegal to disconnect someone's heat or power for nonpayment in the winter.

I'm a little shocked by the number of people in this thread who are perfectly okay with this response. I really shouldn't be. I run into people who think money is more important than human lives every day.


in Maine you have the legal framework work and social contract in place to ensure both parties are not taken advantage of.
 
2017-08-13 09:45:28 AM  

American-Irish eyes: peasandcarrots: Ker_Thwap: What's the vendor supposed to do?  They don't get paid, they go out of business, and multiple hospitals then lose their oxygen supply?

I'm not sure how any economic system is some sort of miraculous cure for this.  Underfunded is underfunded, no matter what economic system is in place.

Call me crazy, but I have to imagine that there's a solution somewhere between "company goes bankrupt" and "THIRTY DEAD CHILDREN."

Here in Maine, under most conditions, it's actually illegal to disconnect someone's heat or power for nonpayment in the winter.

I'm a little shocked by the number of people in this thread who are perfectly okay with this response. I really shouldn't be. I run into people who think money is more important than human lives every day.

in Maine you have the legal framework work and social contract in place to ensure both parties are not taken advantage of.


For now.
 
2017-08-13 09:47:56 AM  
How long before it comes out that an administrator or government official siphoned off the money (perhaps thinking it wouldn't get disconnected)?

Then it'll get lost in India's mountain of untried or unfinished court cases.
 
2017-08-13 09:48:36 AM  

Sid_6.7: At least 30 children died Thursday and into Friday at a hospital in the northern Indian state of Uttar Pradesh after its supply of liquid oxygen was disrupted over an unpaid bill

Hooray for free markets!


phrawgh: Sid_6.7: At least 30 children died Thursday and into Friday at a hospital in the northern Indian state of Uttar Pradesh after its supply of liquid oxygen was disrupted over an unpaid bill

Hooray for free markets!

The Free Market made a decision!

/isn't it beautiful?


Weaver95: coming soon, to a US hospital near YOU!


Linux_Yes: Sid_6.7: At least 30 children died Thursday and into Friday at a hospital in the northern Indian state of Uttar Pradesh after its supply of liquid oxygen was disrupted over an unpaid bill

Hooray for free markets!

Aint capitalism great!


Seriously, are you all daft?

Did you miss the part where this is a government-run hospital?  You're all biatching about free market, and capitalism, yet this hospital is socialized.  I'm not saying that "socialism is bad by that".  I mean that you are all labeling privatization, when it's the government that screwed up a social benefit.  Not a private company.

Weaver95: coming soon, to a US hospital near YOU!


So you're saying that you're against socialized medicine?  I honestly thought that you'd generally be in favor of it.   It's very sad that private-marketists are going to use this occurrence as proof that socialized medicine doesn't work.
 
2017-08-13 09:49:08 AM  

12349876: A lot of people in this thread that think that paying bills is more important than living.

And I assume they all call themselves pro life.


Not really. They think the hospital should be held responsible.
 
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