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2017-08-13 05:41:00 AM  

Cpl.D: ybishop: [img.fark.net image 600x859]

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2017-08-13 05:48:12 AM  

orangehat: NEDM: phrawgh: All it shows is he is more than willing to toss his minions under the bus if he feels it to be politically expedient. Don't fool yourself, he was quite prepared to ignore the Nazis until the Jihadist style vehicle based terrorist act occurred. He can be astute and wanted to get of the correct side of this.

Expedient or not, it's still surprising to see Ted Farking Cruz, the man who we thought was the Craziest Republican Evar, not just outright calling it white supremacist domestic terrorism but calling on the DoJ to prosecute it as such.

 Everything got weird all of the sudden.


It's not that weird, given who's running the Justice Department. He gets to look noble, the Justice Department gets to softpedal it, and Trump gets to claim that justice was done when they slap this asshole on the wrist (or not even bother to do anything) and send him on his way.

This is the same Justice Department that's looking to dismantle affirmative action. The same Justice Department that decided the Civil Rights Act doesn't protect LGBT folks. It's hard not to look at the current Justice Department and realize that they would've grabbed a torch and marched alongside these assholes.

Ted Cruz gets to look like he's claimed high moral ground, even as he tries to redirect the investigation of these assholes to a very sympathetic government agency.
 
2017-08-13 05:49:10 AM  

Cpl.D: ybishop: [img.fark.net image 600x859]

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That has to be a photoshop job, right?
 
2017-08-13 05:51:38 AM  

minorshan: Cpl.D: ybishop: [img.fark.net image 600x859]

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That has to be a photoshop job, right?


I do not believe it is.  I can't prove it, though.  Honestly, if someone were going to mock trump, or embellish his fatness, would they be that subtle?  I have serious doubts there.
 
2017-08-13 06:19:49 AM  

CoysOdie: orangehat: CoysOdie: StaleCoffee: This is their farking fault, every one, from McCain to Hatch. They sat down and used this shiat to maintain their power base. They allowed this shiat to fester so they could be elected, they used this shiat to keep people in a certain mindset so they could keep their jobs.

fark every last one of these traitorous pieces of filth. They get no credit. Talk is cheap. You've done nothing but undermine and destroy this country, republicans. Every last one of you. You're disgusting, and this is your handiwork. Revel in it or shut the fark up and DO something. Cowards.

And your solution is?..................Yea, I thought so.

 Your side's solution appears to be running over people with cars to show how awesome you are.

Sorry Drew, I don't mean to crash your server with the ignore list but....congratulations asshole, you're #500


That echo chamber must've cosy. Just read your own posts, you'll be the only one
 
2017-08-13 06:21:04 AM  
His words did not go unnoticed - prompting top GOP senators, like Sens. Chuck Grassley (IA), Orrin Hatch (UT), John McCain (AZ), Rob Portman (OH), Cory Gardner (CO) and Marco Rubio (FL), to call out the president for sidestepping the force of evil at play.

Exactly one of these guys refused to take health insurance from 22 million Americans.
 
2017-08-13 06:25:13 AM  
Lol, like Trump is going to speak out against these people.  This is his base.
They were yelling,  "Heil Trump"
That gives him a chubby.
 
2017-08-13 06:25:55 AM  

orangehat: Cpl.D: phrawgh: Cpl.D: ybishop: [img.fark.net image 600x859]

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Do they tape all that extra skin back before scheduled appearances or something? How does he do it?

Donald Trump only ever sits facing towards the cameras and hunched over.  Even in cases where he'd be seen from the side, he goes out of his way to be seen more from the front and oblique at worst.  He hunches over forwards to hide the gut and he wears super tight collars to reign in the turkey neck.  He's Taft level obese, but hides it pretty well with superbly tailored, greatly misshapen suits.  He's raised fat concealment to an art form.

Forget opulence, he's the face of efficient corpulence.

 I've gained 50 pounds since I was in high school playing sports, luckily I'm able to hide it.  I'm not sure how Donnie does it, but like the saying goes, don't do what Donnie don't does.


I've gained about 45lbs since I stopped growing taller at age 12. Most of that was me filling out a nearly 6ft tall and fairly stocky frame. 210lbs is about what I'm supposed to weigh because I'm part of the Amazon brigade.

I've seen women about my size just look fat because because their bone structure is more typically feminine and they should weigh about what Taylor Swift does.

Some people carry their weight very well. Someone else with the same height could  just look aweful.

Taft looked good for someone as obese as he was. Trump looks like a caricature of a human being.
 
2017-08-13 06:26:14 AM  

phrawgh: PartTimeBuddha: NEDM: Expedient or not, it's still surprising to see Ted Farking Cruz, the man who we thought was the Craziest Republican Evar, not just outright calling it white supremacist domestic terrorism but calling on the DoJ to prosecute it as such.

It's a fine statement. I won't give him much, but I will give him that.

Maybe I'm too cynical to even give Cruz even that much. I'm certain it was calculated.


I'm certain it was calculated and expedient rather than heartfelt (except in the sense that Cruz wholeheartedly believes in acting in his own perceived best political interest*). I mean no more than to say that these words are good.

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*He has no concept of the interests of others
 
2017-08-13 06:29:52 AM  
The GOP needs to stop "calling out" Trump and start removing Trump. He is a cancer on their party and the sooner they stop thinking they can deal with him the better they'll be in the long run. If they don't ditch soon they'll be annihilated in the midterms.
 
2017-08-13 06:30:15 AM  

Kouta: Taft looked good for someone as obese as he was. Trump looks like a caricature of a human being.


Trump is what Jabba would look like if he was human.
 
2017-08-13 06:31:54 AM  
 
2017-08-13 06:38:41 AM  

Cpl.D: minorshan: Cpl.D: ybishop: [img.fark.net image 600x859]

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That has to be a photoshop job, right?

I do not believe it is.  I can't prove it, though.  Honestly, if someone were going to mock trump, or embellish his fatness, would they be that subtle?  I have serious doubts there.


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2017-08-13 06:43:39 AM  
From Stephen Miller's brain to Donald Trump's lips.
 
2017-08-13 06:47:15 AM  

Sgt Otter: This country gave my grandfather a Bronze Star for killing Nazis.

Now there's at least farking two of them in the goddamn White House.


Anyone else remember when republicans tried to make it legal to run over protesters?  Shocking that Trumps nazi/KKK supporters took their advice.
/David Duke approves
 
2017-08-13 06:50:02 AM  

shpritz: Right now all that "leftists" (and "rightists" and basically anyone that isn't racist scum) is asking for is for him to simply say "Nazis are bad, mmkay?"


Remember when he couldn't be assed to say that the KKK was evil?
 
2017-08-13 06:52:12 AM  
 
2017-08-13 06:59:29 AM  
Am I crazy for thinking that at some point he HAS to address this?  (Probably)

It just seems to me that his advisers have gotta be telling him, "Dude, everything in the country thinks you side with white supremacists!  You need to set this record straight."

Well, I would like to think he would have done that yesterday, you know, when the moment was RIGHT there in front of him.

As I said yesterday, the only conclusion I can draw from this is that he really DOES side with them.  It's not just a joke any more.
 
2017-08-13 07:00:12 AM  
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2017-08-13 07:04:48 AM  

JulieAzel626: http://forward.com/news/379780/what-a-jewish-journalist-saw-and-heard​-​in-charlottesville/


"Duke, Duke, Duke," the crowd chanted, as David Duke, the former KKK leader and poster boy of modern American neo-Nazism, walked straight into the supportive audience and stepped up to the bench-turned-podium.
"The courage you showed today in Charlottesville," he told his supporters. "This is a first step toward making a realization of something that Trump alluded to early in the campaign - this is the first step toward taking America back." And he explained: "European Americans face massive discrimination. Truth is that we're being ethnically cleansed in our own nation."

And with that, I'm off to shower and bed.
Goodnight, internet.
 
2017-08-13 07:10:36 AM  

Witty_Retort: [pbs.twimg.com image 562x326]


Trump, an asshole, is not enough of an asshole for these people. There's always been plenty of terrible people, but now they're in charge.

It's pretty clear we've lost the country. Just try to enjoy the ride down.
 
2017-08-13 07:13:13 AM  

drxym: If they don't ditch soon they'll be annihilated in the midterms.


They aren't going to be annihilated in the midterms.

Mark my words.
 
2017-08-13 07:31:59 AM  
"Oh no! This is making us Republicans look as bad as we actually are!"
 
2017-08-13 07:32:39 AM  

Witty_Retort: "The courage you showed today in Charlottesville," he told his supporters. "This is a first step toward making a realization of something that Trump alluded to early in the campaign - this is the first step toward taking America back."


But WE were the "racists" for pointing out their racism and Trump's use or racist rhetoric and racist "dog whistles" to try and attract these nazi/kkk farks to his side during the campaign.  And of course, Hillary was just awful for calling these POS "deplorables" and should have been ashamed for calling such great Americans by that name.

It may take more time, but I do believe at some point the more mainstream portion of the Republican party are going to have to recognize and own up to the fact that they have basically invited these racist POS into the "tent" by backing Trump.  At what point the majority are willing to at least stand up and be counted, by actually taking on these racist farks, as some are starting to do is another question altogether.  But if they don't and soon, they are going to drive away the vast majority of those who consider themselves "independent" and they are certainly going to lose the support of the mass majority of those under age 30. (Which would be a good thing.)
 
2017-08-13 07:34:06 AM  

CoysOdie: orangehat: CoysOdie: StaleCoffee: This is their farking fault, every one, from McCain to Hatch. They sat down and used this shiat to maintain their power base. They allowed this shiat to fester so they could be elected, they used this shiat to keep people in a certain mindset so they could keep their jobs.

fark every last one of these traitorous pieces of filth. They get no credit. Talk is cheap. You've done nothing but undermine and destroy this country, republicans. Every last one of you. You're disgusting, and this is your handiwork. Revel in it or shut the fark up and DO something. Cowards.

And your solution is?..................Yea, I thought so.

 Your side's solution appears to be running over people with cars to show how awesome you are.

Sorry Drew, I don't mean to crash your server with the ignore list but....congratulations asshole, you're #500


Make me #501 please if you haven't already
 
2017-08-13 07:38:01 AM  

Rueened: Leftists when 0bama was 'president': "The President can't fix everything!"

Leftists now that Trump is President: "The President should fix everything!"


Lol, you missed the entire point of every comment prior to yours.

That's not bad for a Trump voter...but that bar is pretty low :)
 
2017-08-13 07:38:14 AM  

Chuck87: If people listened to the whole speech, he was talking about unity and loving eachother.  It was a nice speech.


I'm pretty sure you're just trolling, but in case anyone legitimately thinks that...
Remember how upset right-wingers were when Obama discussed violent acts as "terrorism" or "extremist terrorism" rather than their personal favorite catchphrase "Radical Muslim Terrorism™"?

Now, just as a hypothetical, imagine he didn't even that much, but rather condemned the violence "on both sides."
 
2017-08-13 07:38:21 AM  
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2017-08-13 07:40:22 AM  

drxym: The GOP needs to stop "calling out" Trump and start removing Trump. He is a cancer on their party and the sooner they stop thinking they can deal with him the better they'll be in the long run. If they don't ditch soon they'll be annihilated in the midterms.


I'd like to think so, but that's not how I'd bet right now.  Dems will be lucky to pick up a couple seats, imho.

/would like to be wrong
 
2017-08-13 07:48:06 AM  

PunGent: drxym: The GOP needs to stop "calling out" Trump and start removing Trump. He is a cancer on their party and the sooner they stop thinking they can deal with him the better they'll be in the long run. If they don't ditch soon they'll be annihilated in the midterms.

I'd like to think so, but that's not how I'd bet right now.  Dems will be lucky to pick up a couple seats, imho.

/would like to be wrong


And most of that is due to the way everything is so gerrymandered.  People are sick of this shiat. But when your district looks like a ten-armed octopus wearing a hat, with a monocle (the middle of a more liberal city that is part of a district that looks like a cat jumping through the air) not much you can do.
 
2017-08-13 07:49:03 AM  
It's a shame that the WWII generation for the most part has died out.

I know my dad, who was shot at the Battle of the Bulge and spent 6 months in a hospital fighting to keep from having his arm amputated and who saw so many of his friends die in battle from Italy, France and Germany even in his 60s/70s would have probably at least tried to wade into that crowd to try and beat some nazi ass. (and tough/strong motherfarker he was would have probably succeeded to some degree.)

Without having the same "voice" they did just 20-30 yrs ago by shear numbers, it's a damned shame that so many of them who would have had no problem denouncing all these neo-nazi farks and carrying the day.  Now, there's just a handful of them around to put things in perspective.

Problem is for these Republicans who are finally saying something, they should have been saying the same back when Trump was considering filling his inner circle with the farkheads who, if not actually supporters of these neo-nazi scumbuckets, certainly appear sympathetic to the cause.  People like Gorka, Bannon, Miller, etc., who hold top spots in the Trump regime should have been named by name, publicly repudiated and pressure brought to at least use their positions to denounce these farks BEFORE things got to this point.  Hell, Gorka goes around wearing a farking NAZI pin and lies to cover it up and unfortunately, too many of these same Republicans were too cowardly to call him out on it.

I can remember all my life people asking the following question:  How did a relatively "sane" Germany end up supporting the nazi farks they did and end up following those insane nazi farks in destroying their country?   People better wake up to the fact that we are seeing the answer to that question in action and if we don't get our shiat together, we could end up just as farked as the Germans if we keep down this path with Trump and his deplorables and don't take action in the next election, by a considerable margin, to reject these farking klan and neo-nazi scum.
 
2017-08-13 07:49:54 AM  
As I've said in other threads yesterday, don't talk about why Trump or whomever isn't calling it right wing racist terrorism. You'll be waiting forever for that. Start being proactive and take a page out of their book. That is, to bring back the treason laws for scum like him.

Why treason? If they're wearing any Nazi or Confederate memorabilia, both of which were nation states hostile to the US, then committing a crime under the auspices or influence of the said flag is by definition, giving aid or comfort to the enemies of the US. Doesn't matter if they're defunct or not, they still at one point posed war against the US.

Any felony acts committed while doing so should be considered 1st degree treason and carry the death penalty as a sentence if bodily harm is committed during the crime. If it's proven that said individuals have committed treason under the urging of a group via coercion or influence, the group as a whole is responsible as well.
 
2017-08-13 07:51:02 AM  

CoysOdie: Hey Subby, Hillary called, she wants her panties back.


Umm....yeah...
 
2017-08-13 07:54:46 AM  
Let me guess.  They're all RINOs?  After all, they don't blindly follow the One True Leader of the One True People.  Hail Victory!  Or something.
 
2017-08-13 08:02:42 AM  
the republican way is typically to advocate bigotry and hate using dog whistles and using the power of the government to disenfranchise minorities and then pretend to be upset when your policies and rhetoric bear fruit. Trumpy is being more blunt in his support of the type of human garbage that makes up the gop base.
 
2017-08-13 08:14:20 AM  

lawboy87: How did a relatively "sane" Germany end up supporting the nazi farks they did and end up following those insane nazi farks in destroying their country?   People better wake up to the fact that we are seeing the answer to that question in action and if we don't get our shiat together, we could end up just as farked as the Germans if we keep down this path with Trump and his deplorables and don't take action in the next election, by a considerable margin, to reject ...


At least Germany went down that path after losing a terrible war, enduring crushing reparations, and experiencing hyperinflation.

America... what?  Allowed gay people to marry? Endured implementation of a system to offer private health insurance with government subsidies, and Medicaid expansion? Increased the highest marginal income tax rate from 36% to 39.6%?

Not that *anything* excuses Nazi-ism, but the Germans actually suffered a great deal prior to embracing it. Comparatively, we're just throwing a tantrum because we had to share our toys.
 
2017-08-13 08:22:31 AM  
Didn't see Senator Putin's Tweet?  Which side does he come down on all this?

It could explain Trump's non committal posture.
 
2017-08-13 08:25:21 AM  
On one hand it's good to see a fair number of GOP Senators explicitly call out the white supremcists and not shy away from describing this as a terror attack.

On the other hand it shouldn't normally be surprising to see Senators condem an attack of this sort with the blunt language it deserves.
 
2017-08-13 08:27:33 AM  
Next time the leftists should think twice before they start throwing stones at people.  Violence begets violence.

Trump did the right thing by condemning the assholes on both sides.
 
2017-08-13 08:27:42 AM  
Hitler turned marginalized people into scapegoats. Which is really easy to do because marginalized people are seen as being less than. Want to stop bigots? Stop marginalizing people. It's not the racists who are keeping them marginalized. Indeed it's the only way to fight bigotry, stop marginalizing people so they don't get turned into scapegoats.
 
2017-08-13 08:29:56 AM  

fusillade762: the president ended up "signaling to the white supremacists that he is on their side."

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While Trump's words should have been stronger, I don't see how anyone can take that they condoned what these fascists were up to over the last couple of days.

On the other hand, Neo Nazis are hardly the smartest bunch...
 
2017-08-13 08:31:24 AM  

Sean VasDeferens: Next time the leftists should think twice before they start throwing stones at people.  Violence begets violence.

Trump did the right thing by condemning the assholes on both sides.


Good for you, Nazi boy, we're all proud of you!
 
2017-08-13 08:32:08 AM  

Electrify: fusillade762: the president ended up "signaling to the white supremacists that he is on their side."

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While Trump's words should have been stronger, I don't see how anyone can take that they condoned what these fascists were up to over the last couple of days.

On the other hand, Neo Nazis are hardly the smartest bunch...


Have you ever looked up the definition of "fascist"?
 
2017-08-13 08:33:16 AM  

Target Builder: On one hand it's good to see a fair number of GOP Senators explicitly call out the white supremcists and not shy away from describing this as a terror attack.

On the other hand it shouldn't normally be surprising to see Senators condem an attack of this sort with the blunt language it deserves.


There is precedent for killing and injuring people with a car in Europe, and it is always called a terror attack, so why wouldn't it be here?
 
2017-08-13 08:36:45 AM  

serpent_sky: Target Builder: On one hand it's good to see a fair number of GOP Senators explicitly call out the white supremcists and not shy away from describing this as a terror attack.

On the other hand it shouldn't normally be surprising to see Senators condem an attack of this sort with the blunt language it deserves.

There is precedent for killing and injuring people with a car in Europe, and it is always called a terror attack, so why wouldn't it be here?


For sure. 100% in agreement that's what this was. I'm just surprised to see high level members of the GOP actually using that term to describe a white right wing terrorist.
 
2017-08-13 08:38:33 AM  
How did identity politics work out for you libs in the last election? I see you've learned nothing. Good.
 
2017-08-13 08:39:54 AM  
Guess D2S wasted all his fire and fury on Best Korea. Sad.
 
2017-08-13 08:40:36 AM  

tjfly: How did identity politics work out for you libs in the last election? I see you've learned nothing. Good.


Get the fark out of here with that played-out garbage.

Nazis openly marched on US soil and you're over here with your dick in your hand like the adults aren't talking.
 
2017-08-13 08:42:48 AM  

lawboy87: Problem is for these Republicans who are finally saying something, they should have been saying the same back


...50+ years ago when the civil rights movement started dismantling racist policies.
And during all the years in between.
 
2017-08-13 08:43:25 AM  

Target Builder: serpent_sky: Target Builder: On one hand it's good to see a fair number of GOP Senators explicitly call out the white supremcists and not shy away from describing this as a terror attack.

On the other hand it shouldn't normally be surprising to see Senators condem an attack of this sort with the blunt language it deserves.

There is precedent for killing and injuring people with a car in Europe, and it is always called a terror attack, so why wouldn't it be here?

For sure. 100% in agreement that's what this was. I'm just surprised to see high level members of the GOP actually using that term to describe a white right wing terrorist.


Not really all that surprising. There are a sizeable portion of the right who actually do abide by the tough on crime mantra and just don't use it as a dog whistle. You can have non-liberal views on race and still want white racists to pay dearly for their crimes - I think about 70% of whites in SC wanted Roof to get the death penalty and I'm pretty sure the white population in SC by and large, aren't bleeding heart liberals.
 
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