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(Portland Press Herald)   Little League manager reminded about rule that everyone needs to get an at-bat. Manager: We have a chance to win, I'll take the two-game suspension. Fark: they lost anyway   ( pressherald.com) divider line
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2017-08-11 09:40:23 PM  
I feel bad for the kid who didn't play.  He now knows exactly how much his manager values him.
 
2017-08-11 10:10:46 PM  
There is a time to be competitive, and there is a time to have fun and eat pizza. Know the difference.
 
2017-08-11 10:17:23 PM  
I always volunteered to be the assistant coach for my kids sports teams, and unfortunately that meant that I often ended up being the head coach.  I wasn't a talented athlete as a kid and was usually one of the last kids off the bench for every team I was on.  When I coached younger teams, everyone played equal time regardless of the score.  By middle school I usually had one group of kids who were 'starters" that was larger than the actual number of kids who started and would rotate who started game by game, and the remaining "starters" would rotate in with the non-starters.  Every kid got some playing time in every game even if playing time was not exactly equal for all players.

I went to a basketball coaching clinic run by a local high school coach with 20+ years experience as a head coach and I'll never forget him telling the parent coaches "There is no way you are going to be able to tell who on your team is going to be a starter for their high school team, much less who is going to move on to play on the college level and above.  The kid whose talent is obvious might lose interest in the sport when he discovers girls next year and the kid who is tripping over his own feet this year might amaze everyone with his coordination after his latest growth spurt, and the quiet kid who is absolutely in love with the game and works his butt off practicing year round could surprise everyone.  So play all of your players, coach and encourage all of them as much as you can, don't just focus on the ones you think are the best.  That's the best recipe for success for you and your players whether they go on to the next level or not."
I remain convinced that he got it right.
 
2017-08-11 10:22:18 PM  
O'Connell said Bergeron declined an opportunity to bat first in the bottom of the fourth, causing the manager to wonder if "he wasn't feeling good."

As a former reluctant and anxious child myself, this sounds complicated. And I'm not sure that putting him in for the clutch finale was going to help things. This is all-around unpleasant.
 
2017-08-11 10:31:48 PM  

goatleggedfellow: O'Connell said Bergeron declined an opportunity to bat first in the bottom of the fourth, causing the manager to wonder if "he wasn't feeling good."

As a former reluctant and anxious child myself, this sounds complicated. And I'm not sure that putting him in for the clutch finale was going to help things. This is all-around unpleasant.


Yeah.  I had initially taken it as "coach doesn't want kid to play", but I guess it could well have been "kid doesn't want to play, coach takes penalty on himself rather than force him".  Rush to judgment on my part.
 
2017-08-12 03:09:59 AM  

stan unusual: I always volunteered to be the assistant coach for my kids sports teams, and unfortunately that meant that I often ended up being the head coach.  I wasn't a talented athlete as a kid and was usually one of the last kids off the bench for every team I was on.  When I coached younger teams, everyone played equal time regardless of the score.  By middle school I usually had one group of kids who were 'starters" that was larger than the actual number of kids who started and would rotate who started game by game, and the remaining "starters" would rotate in with the non-starters.  Every kid got some playing time in every game even if playing time was not exactly equal for all players.

I went to a basketball coaching clinic run by a local high school coach with 20+ years experience as a head coach and I'll never forget him telling the parent coaches "There is no way you are going to be able to tell who on your team is going to be a starter for their high school team, much less who is going to move on to play on the college level and above.  The kid whose talent is obvious might lose interest in the sport when he discovers girls next year and the kid who is tripping over his own feet this year might amaze everyone with his coordination after his latest growth spurt, and the quiet kid who is absolutely in love with the game and works his butt off practicing year round could surprise everyone.  So play all of your players, coach and encourage all of them as much as you can, don't just focus on the ones you think are the best.  That's the best recipe for success for you and your players whether they go on to the next level or not."
I remain convinced that he got it right.


Whoever that is seems smart.
 
2017-08-12 07:04:52 AM  
Follow up article: dad punches coach in front of team because son didn't get in the game
 
2017-08-12 08:27:37 AM  

stan unusual: I always volunteered to be the assistant coach for my kids sports teams, and unfortunately that meant that I often ended up being the head coach.  I wasn't a talented athlete as a kid and was usually one of the last kids off the bench for every team I was on.  When I coached younger teams, everyone played equal time regardless of the score.  By middle school I usually had one group of kids who were 'starters" that was larger than the actual number of kids who started and would rotate who started game by game, and the remaining "starters" would rotate in with the non-starters.  Every kid got some playing time in every game even if playing time was not exactly equal for all players.

I went to a basketball coaching clinic run by a local high school coach with 20+ years experience as a head coach and I'll never forget him telling the parent coaches "There is no way you are going to be able to tell who on your team is going to be a starter for their high school team, much less who is going to move on to play on the college level and above.  The kid whose talent is obvious might lose interest in the sport when he discovers girls next year and the kid who is tripping over his own feet this year might amaze everyone with his coordination after his latest growth spurt, and the quiet kid who is absolutely in love with the game and works his butt off practicing year round could surprise everyone.  So play all of your players, coach and encourage all of them as much as you can, don't just focus on the ones you think are the best.  That's the best recipe for success for you and your players whether they go on to the next level or not."
I remain convinced that he got it right.


If only the parents could be as smart as your coach friend.
 
2017-08-12 08:49:34 AM  
You play to win the game.
 
2017-08-12 10:39:25 AM  

kevinatilusa: goatleggedfellow: O'Connell said Bergeron declined an opportunity to bat first in the bottom of the fourth, causing the manager to wonder if "he wasn't feeling good."

As a former reluctant and anxious child myself, this sounds complicated. And I'm not sure that putting him in for the clutch finale was going to help things. This is all-around unpleasant.

Yeah.  I had initially taken it as "coach doesn't want kid to play", but I guess it could well have been "kid doesn't want to play, coach takes penalty on himself rather than force him".  Rush to judgment on my part.


Are you kidding? This is the best youth coaching moment imaginable. 

"Look, Cole. I get it that you don't want to go to bat right now. But the rulebook says you've got to play, and the lineup card says you're up. So go out there, and do your thing. And don't keep the bat on your shoulder- that lets someone else determine your fate. Win or lose, succeed or fail, swing the bat. Do it on your terms."
 
2017-08-12 01:04:16 PM  

stan unusual: I always volunteered to be the assistant coach for my kids sports teams, and unfortunately that meant that I often ended up being the head coach.  I wasn't a talented athlete as a kid and was usually one of the last kids off the bench for every team I was on.  When I coached younger teams, everyone played equal time regardless of the score.  By middle school I usually had one group of kids who were 'starters" that was larger than the actual number of kids who started and would rotate who started game by game, and the remaining "starters" would rotate in with the non-starters.  Every kid got some playing time in every game even if playing time was not exactly equal for all players.

I went to a basketball coaching clinic run by a local high school coach with 20+ years experience as a head coach and I'll never forget him telling the parent coaches "There is no way you are going to be able to tell who on your team is going to be a starter for their high school team, much less who is going to move on to play on the college level and above.  The kid whose talent is obvious might lose interest in the sport when he discovers girls next year and the kid who is tripping over his own feet this year might amaze everyone with his coordination after his latest growth spurt, and the quiet kid who is absolutely in love with the game and works his butt off practicing year round could surprise everyone.  So play all of your players, coach and encourage all of them as much as you can, don't just focus on the ones you think are the best.  That's the best recipe for success for you and your players whether they go on to the next level or not."
I remain convinced that he got it right.



Well, I think that's a nice sentiment but misses what should be the focus -- having fun.  In a recreation level league with young kids, having fun has to be the #1 goal.  Even if you could know somehow which ones will go on to be professional athletes in that sport, you should still sit those kids for equal playing time.

I coached my kid's soccer team in a rec youth league because I loved soccer growing up and wanted to share that with the other kids.  So having fun was always my #1 goal, and was my goal for every kid on the field, not just my team.  I always prepared who would play when ahead of the games and kept the records to follow two rules -- 1) everyone plays at least some time each game and 2) by the end of the season everyone will have had equal total playing time.

One of my players had Down's syndrome.  He got equal playing time and for the most part was worthless, it was like we were playing... down... a man.  But he did score a goal and oh man did we celebrate.  That kid loved soccer.

/And yeah, if it's higher than rec skill level, or around high school age, then sure fun is not the #1 goal.
//But clearly a league that has a rule everyone bats is a recreation league
 
2017-08-12 01:30:19 PM  

kevinatilusa: I feel bad for the kid who didn't play.  He now knows exactly how much his manager values him.


But on the bright side, everyone in the Manchester area now knows who to beat for "Douche of the Year."

\I'd say sent him out of Goffstown on a rail but they just turned the tracks into a bike trail so that's out
 
2017-08-12 01:47:12 PM  
I guess we found the team's booger eating moron.
 
2017-08-12 02:17:48 PM  
Competitive sports and minors have no business with each other. Heck, not even collegiate sports ought to be competitive. Why invest so much into an activity which 99% of participants age out of before 40?
 
2017-08-12 04:09:41 PM  

Gonz: kevinatilusa: goatleggedfellow: O'Connell said Bergeron declined an opportunity to bat first in the bottom of the fourth, causing the manager to wonder if "he wasn't feeling good."

As a former reluctant and anxious child myself, this sounds complicated. And I'm not sure that putting him in for the clutch finale was going to help things. This is all-around unpleasant.

Yeah.  I had initially taken it as "coach doesn't want kid to play", but I guess it could well have been "kid doesn't want to play, coach takes penalty on himself rather than force him".  Rush to judgment on my part.

Are you kidding? This is the best youth coaching moment imaginable. 

"Look, Cole. I get it that you don't want to go to bat right now. But the rulebook says you've got to play, and the lineup card says you're up. So go out there, and do your thing. And don't keep the bat on your shoulder- that lets someone else determine your fate. Win or lose, succeed or fail, swing the bat. Do it on your terms."


Don't forget the part about one at bat can win the game but one at bat won't lose the game.
 
2017-08-12 08:00:27 PM  
All these kids are all-stars.  How bad could he be?
 
2017-08-13 05:10:41 AM  

DRTFA: Gonz: kevinatilusa: goatleggedfellow: O'Connell said Bergeron declined an opportunity to bat first in the bottom of the fourth, causing the manager to wonder if "he wasn't feeling good."

As a former reluctant and anxious child myself, this sounds complicated. And I'm not sure that putting him in for the clutch finale was going to help things. This is all-around unpleasant.

Yeah.  I had initially taken it as "coach doesn't want kid to play", but I guess it could well have been "kid doesn't want to play, coach takes penalty on himself rather than force him".  Rush to judgment on my part.

Are you kidding? This is the best youth coaching moment imaginable. 

"Look, Cole. I get it that you don't want to go to bat right now. But the rulebook says you've got to play, and the lineup card says you're up. So go out there, and do your thing. And don't keep the bat on your shoulder- that lets someone else determine your fate. Win or lose, succeed or fail, swing the bat. Do it on your terms."

Don't forget the part about one at bat can win the game but one at bat won't lose the game.


Tell that to Casey....
 
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