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(Denver Post)   Man dies in elevator after twice pushing emergency button and getting no response. Investigators say something smells fishy. Well, not exactly 'fishy,' but it doesn't smell good   ( denverpost.com) divider line
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2017-08-11 06:42:45 PM  
They're worried that it might be hard to figure out a cause of death? Lol, that's hilarious.
 
2017-08-11 06:50:53 PM  

Johnny Rockets: They're worried that it might be hard to figure out a cause of death? Lol, that's hilarious.


Well, who is to say he didn't have a stroke and die a minute after the second button push? We will never know, since he is probably mostly liquefied, but most likely he died from dehydration.
 
2017-08-11 09:27:35 PM  

Johnny Rockets: They're worried that it might be hard to figure out a cause of death? Lol, that's hilarious.


The post-mortem always rings twice?

/Sorry
//So very sorry
///Aisle seat
 
2017-08-11 10:00:38 PM  
Wow, the Pharrell story I read didn't have these details
 
2017-08-11 10:01:56 PM  
Sounds like they're going to have to elevate this to the proper people.
 
2017-08-11 10:04:54 PM  
Dementia guy wanders into elevator in closed area of garage. Somehow gets in. Has enough left of his brain to signal for help. Although someone is supposed to monitor all elevators, they didn't. Dies a gruesome death. Residents complain about ghastly odor to management but no1currs.

That is an ugly story. If he has family, there will be lawsuits.
 
2017-08-11 10:04:55 PM  
On a serious note, I hope he died quickly
If not, What a horrible way to go.
 
2017-08-11 10:04:57 PM  
So it's not always a stairway to heaven, apparently.
 
2017-08-11 10:07:33 PM  
No one understands why I don't use elevators unless I absolutely have to. I'd rather walk up 30 flights of stairs if that option is available to me.

This is why.
 
2017-08-11 10:07:40 PM  
♫ Dead in an elevator,
Stinkin' it up 'til the cops come 'round.
 
2017-08-11 10:07:58 PM  
Pixley said MEI Total Elevator Solutions monitors the elevator for Woodstream. MEI did not reply to several phone messages left by The Denver Post seeking comment.


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Fishy indeed...
 
2017-08-11 10:09:44 PM  
His distant family will appreciate his efforts.
 
2017-08-11 10:11:24 PM  

Johnny Rockets: They're worried that it might be hard to figure out a cause of death? Lol, that's hilarious.


It could be very important to know how and when he died in terms of wrongful death liability.  If he died of natural causes shortly after pressing the emergency button, the liability of the company that failed to monitor the emergency call could be much less than if he were trapped for a prolonged time and died of dehydration.  Either way that company or their insurance policy is going to be paying through the nose.
 
2017-08-11 10:17:43 PM  
What an awful story.
There was an elderly man with dementia who went missing here recently. He was found after 5 days trapped between a fence and a building. He was still alive, not sure how he's doing now. It's just heartbreaking.

You'd think that with today's technology they could figure out a tracking system for people with Alzheimer's/dementia. A bracelet or something.
 
2017-08-11 10:20:29 PM  
FWIW, I just last week I asked the OTIS Elevator technician that services the Supreme Court elevators if I could escape via the top entry hatch if an elevator became stalled on a weekend.

His answer: the hatch is locked from the top of the elevator and no escape is possible.  (D*mn!!!)

And yet the roof-top doors into the courthouse are unlocked and unmonitored--just rappel from a helicopter and you're in the court house in seconds.

Idiots manage our world, of this I am convinced.
 
2017-08-11 10:23:21 PM  

Thong_of_Zardoz: No one understands why I don't use elevators unless I absolutely have to. I'd rather walk up 30 flights of stairs if that option is available to me.

This is why.


I mean, yeah, but on the other hand, YOLO?

Do you avoid anything that has a potential to kill you, or is specifically elevators? I'm genuinely asking, btw, if you care to answer.
 
2017-08-11 10:29:28 PM  

Natalie Portmanteau: Thong_of_Zardoz: No one understands why I don't use elevators unless I absolutely have to. I'd rather walk up 30 flights of stairs if that option is available to me.

This is why.

I mean, yeah, but on the other hand, YOLO?

Do you avoid anything that has a potential to kill you, or is specifically elevators? I'm genuinely asking, btw, if you care to answer.


Specifically elevators.

I'm reasonably (but not unduly) cavalier about most other things that can kill me.
 
2017-08-11 10:32:15 PM  
Life has its ups and downs.....
 
2017-08-11 10:33:53 PM  
Read about this story a week or so ago. Not familiar with the place but looking it up online that apartment complex has some pretty atrocious reviews. I usually take google reviews with a massive grain of salt but these were almost universally bad, plus there were signs that the apartment management were doing PR damage control in response but not much else, such as trying to run the place properly. Whole story smacks of something else seriously wrong going on there.

//Managed to avoid smell jokes
/Still reeks of mismanagement...dammit!
 
2017-08-11 10:35:39 PM  

Thong_of_Zardoz: Natalie Portmanteau: Thong_of_Zardoz: No one understands why I don't use elevators unless I absolutely have to. I'd rather walk up 30 flights of stairs if that option is available to me.

This is why.

I mean, yeah, but on the other hand, YOLO?

Do you avoid anything that has a potential to kill you, or is specifically elevators? I'm genuinely asking, btw, if you care to answer.

Specifically elevators.

I'm reasonably (but not unduly) cavalier about most other things that can kill me.


Fair enough. That's motorcycles for me. I forced myself to ride one (as a passenger) and then never touched one again.
 
2017-08-11 10:36:20 PM  

Bedstead Polisher: What an awful story.
There was an elderly man with dementia who went missing here recently. He was found after 5 days trapped between a fence and a building. He was still alive, not sure how he's doing now. It's just heartbreaking.
You'd think that with today's technology they could figure out a tracking system for people with Alzheimer's/dementia. A bracelet or something.


There is, but it doesn't have anything to do with technology. You use smell. What you do is get a glass jar of some kind with a good lid, then you take a piece of cloth and rub it all over the old person. Once the cloth has their smell, you seal it in the jar and put it somewhere (on the top of the refrigerator was recommended, because people forget things when they're in a panic, like where they stashed grandpa's smell jar.)

The police come over with their bloodhood, take the jar, and go find the old person. This usually doesn't take long, since you tend to notice when people with Alzheimer's go missing.

I remember the story, but I can't remember the details--I think it was used in Europe in a few places, and it's so easy that now it's spreading over here. The city would have to have a trained dog, is all.
 
2017-08-11 10:48:06 PM  

Thong_of_Zardoz: Natalie Portmanteau: Thong_of_Zardoz: No one understands why I don't use elevators unless I absolutely have to. I'd rather walk up 30 flights of stairs if that option is available to me.

This is why.

I mean, yeah, but on the other hand, YOLO?

Do you avoid anything that has a potential to kill you, or is specifically elevators? I'm genuinely asking, btw, if you care to answer.

Specifically elevators.

I'm reasonably (but not unduly) cavalier about most other things that can kill me.


Ok, I have to ask, were you required by the mods to alter your avatar image, or did you just do it on your own? I'm just honestly curious. I always thought it was funny.
 
2017-08-11 11:00:57 PM  
They really gave him the shaft.

/come on, Fark!
 
2017-08-11 11:05:32 PM  
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How many of Leonard's romantic rivals are stuffed in this one?
 
2017-08-11 11:12:09 PM  

NevynFox: Thong_of_Zardoz: Natalie Portmanteau: Thong_of_Zardoz: No one understands why I don't use elevators unless I absolutely have to. I'd rather walk up 30 flights of stairs if that option is available to me.

This is why.

I mean, yeah, but on the other hand, YOLO?

Do you avoid anything that has a potential to kill you, or is specifically elevators? I'm genuinely asking, btw, if you care to answer.

Specifically elevators.

I'm reasonably (but not unduly) cavalier about most other things that can kill me.

Ok, I have to ask, were you required by the mods to alter your avatar image, or did you just do it on your own? I'm just honestly curious. I always thought it was funny.


I'm glad you asked, actually.

I did it of my own volition at the request of another Farker. I felt (feel) that the original image was (is) not at all inappropriate for an online community that has a squirrel with gigantic testicles for a mascot. However, I apparently offended the delicate sensibilities of this particular individual, who requested that I stifle my creative self-expression and remove my picture. I wasn't going to do it at first, but these things have a way of escalating, so I figured I'd better do *something* before I was banned or pilloried (and, to be honest, my intent was never to offend anyone, and I was a bit taken aback by this request).

To quote the great Zardoz himself:

"The penis is evil. The penis shoots seeds, and makes new life, and poisons the earth with a plague of men, as once it was."
 
2017-08-11 11:13:38 PM  

johnsoninca: [img.fark.net image 425x255]
How many of Leonard's romantic rivals victims are stuffed in this one?

 
2017-08-11 11:15:04 PM  
They know he rang the emergency bell twice - but?... so he never hit it again, or does the elevator not let you hit the red button more than twice?

/ read a diff article, not this one b/c once was sad enuf
// has never hit the red button in an elevator either
 
2017-08-11 11:16:26 PM  

Sum Dum Gai: Johnny Rockets: They're worried that it might be hard to figure out a cause of death? Lol, that's hilarious.

It could be very important to know how and when he died in terms of wrongful death liability.  If he died of natural causes shortly after pressing the emergency button, the liability of the company that failed to monitor the emergency call could be much less than if he were trapped for a prolonged time and died of dehydration.  Either way that company or their insurance policy is going to be paying through the nose.


They didn't fail to monitor anything.

They monitored it and reported it to the building folks who didn't bother searching the correct elevator.

Seems like when you only have 3 elevators checking two of them and ignoring the third seems somewhat shortsighted.
 
2017-08-11 11:20:22 PM  

andyofne: Sum Dum Gai: Johnny Rockets: They're worried that it might be hard to figure out a cause of death? Lol, that's hilarious.

It could be very important to know how and when he died in terms of wrongful death liability.  If he died of natural causes shortly after pressing the emergency button, the liability of the company that failed to monitor the emergency call could be much less than if he were trapped for a prolonged time and died of dehydration.  Either way that company or their insurance policy is going to be paying through the nose.

They didn't fail to monitor anything.

They monitored it and reported it to the building folks who didn't bother searching the correct elevator.

Seems like when you only have 3 elevators checking two of them and ignoring the third seems somewhat shortsighted.


Apparently an "elevator monitor" is only required to monitor for entrapment incidents.

There is no requirement to respond to any incident that such monitoring may reveal.
 
2017-08-11 11:30:19 PM  

cryinoutloud: Bedstead Polisher: What an awful story.
There was an elderly man with dementia who went missing here recently. He was found after 5 days trapped between a fence and a building. He was still alive, not sure how he's doing now. It's just heartbreaking.
You'd think that with today's technology they could figure out a tracking system for people with Alzheimer's/dementia. A bracelet or something.

There is, but it doesn't have anything to do with technology. You use smell. What you do is get a glass jar of some kind with a good lid, then you take a piece of cloth and rub it all over the old person. Once the cloth has their smell, you seal it in the jar and put it somewhere (on the top of the refrigerator was recommended, because people forget things when they're in a panic, like where they stashed grandpa's smell jar.)

The police come over with their bloodhood, take the jar, and go find the old person. This usually doesn't take long, since you tend to notice when people with Alzheimer's go missing.

I remember the story, but I can't remember the details--I think it was used in Europe in a few places, and it's so easy that now it's spreading over here. The city would have to have a trained dog, is all.

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2017-08-11 11:30:33 PM  

Court Dude: FWIW, I just last week I asked the OTIS Elevator technician that services the Supreme Court elevators if I could escape via the top entry hatch if an elevator became stalled on a weekend.

His answer: the hatch is locked from the top of the elevator and no escape is possible. (D*mn!!!)


I once got stuck between floors in an elevator in my university dorm building. I was able to pull the doors open (after pushing a release catch for the outer doors) and climb out.
 
2017-08-11 11:31:13 PM  

Thong_of_Zardoz: NevynFox: Thong_of_Zardoz: Natalie Portmanteau: Thong_of_Zardoz: No one understands why I don't use elevators unless I absolutely have to. I'd rather walk up 30 flights of stairs if that option is available to me.

This is why.

I mean, yeah, but on the other hand, YOLO?

Do you avoid anything that has a potential to kill you, or is specifically elevators? I'm genuinely asking, btw, if you care to answer.

Specifically elevators.

I'm reasonably (but not unduly) cavalier about most other things that can kill me.

Ok, I have to ask, were you required by the mods to alter your avatar image, or did you just do it on your own? I'm just honestly curious. I always thought it was funny.

I'm glad you asked, actually.

I did it of my own volition at the request of another Farker. I felt (feel) that the original image was (is) not at all inappropriate for an online community that has a squirrel with gigantic testicles for a mascot. However, I apparently offended the delicate sensibilities of this particular individual, who requested that I stifle my creative self-expression and remove my picture. I wasn't going to do it at first, but these things have a way of escalating, so I figured I'd better do *something* before I was banned or pilloried (and, to be honest, my intent was never to offend anyone, and I was a bit taken aback by this request).

To quote the great Zardoz himself:

"The penis is evil. The penis shoots seeds, and makes new life, and poisons the earth with a plague of men, as once it was."


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2017-08-11 11:34:38 PM  

derpes_simplex: They really gave him the shaft.

/come on, Fark!


Damn right

/we're talkin about shaft
 
2017-08-11 11:39:23 PM  
Before I RTFA, I was wondering how the fark the elevator wasn't used in that length of time.
 
2017-08-11 11:41:29 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Thong_of_Zardoz: NevynFox: Thong_of_Zardoz: Natalie Portmanteau: Thong_of_Zardoz: No one understands why I don't use elevators unless I absolutely have to. I'd rather walk up 30 flights of stairs if that option is available to me.

This is why.

I mean, yeah, but on the other hand, YOLO?

Do you avoid anything that has a potential to kill you, or is specifically elevators? I'm genuinely asking, btw, if you care to answer.

Specifically elevators.

I'm reasonably (but not unduly) cavalier about most other things that can kill me.

Ok, I have to ask, were you required by the mods to alter your avatar image, or did you just do it on your own? I'm just honestly curious. I always thought it was funny.

I'm glad you asked, actually.

I did it of my own volition at the request of another Farker. I felt (feel) that the original image was (is) not at all inappropriate for an online community that has a squirrel with gigantic testicles for a mascot. However, I apparently offended the delicate sensibilities of this particular individual, who requested that I stifle my creative self-expression and remove my picture. I wasn't going to do it at first, but these things have a way of escalating, so I figured I'd better do *something* before I was banned or pilloried (and, to be honest, my intent was never to offend anyone, and I was a bit taken aback by this request).

To quote the great Zardoz himself:

"The penis is evil. The penis shoots seeds, and makes new life, and poisons the earth with a plague of men, as once it was."

[img.fark.net image 200x200]


God damn it.
 
2017-08-11 11:42:44 PM  

Ivo Shandor: Court Dude: FWIW, I just last week I asked the OTIS Elevator technician that services the Supreme Court elevators if I could escape via the top entry hatch if an elevator became stalled on a weekend.

His answer: the hatch is locked from the top of the elevator and no escape is possible. (D*mn!!!)

I once got stuck between floors in an elevator in my university dorm building. I was able to pull the doors open (after pushing a release catch for the outer doors) and climb out.


I have been trapped in one of those elevators previously.  Opening elevator doors is not in my job description.  Though that isn't really true--I actually have no position number, no job description, and no legal requirement to ever have a performance review.

I laid down on the floor and took a two hour nap using my leather carry-case as a pillow while being paid to do so until the Otis elevator tech arrived.

At least I'm d*mned good at what I actually do, but what I said is the sad truth of many government positions.
 
2017-08-11 11:44:27 PM  

7th Son of a 7th Son: Before I RTFA, I was wondering how the fark the elevator wasn't used in that length of time.


Would you want to use an elevator that had a rotting old man corpse in it?
 
2017-08-11 11:49:05 PM  

Thong_of_Zardoz: Ow! That was my feelings!: Thong_of_Zardoz: NevynFox: Thong_of_Zardoz: Natalie Portmanteau: Thong_of_Zardoz: No one understands why I don't use elevators unless I absolutely have to. I'd rather walk up 30 flights of stairs if that option is available to me.

This is why.

I mean, yeah, but on the other hand, YOLO?

Do you avoid anything that has a potential to kill you, or is specifically elevators? I'm genuinely asking, btw, if you care to answer.

Specifically elevators.

I'm reasonably (but not unduly) cavalier about most other things that can kill me.

Ok, I have to ask, were you required by the mods to alter your avatar image, or did you just do it on your own? I'm just honestly curious. I always thought it was funny.

I'm glad you asked, actually.

I did it of my own volition at the request of another Farker. I felt (feel) that the original image was (is) not at all inappropriate for an online community that has a squirrel with gigantic testicles for a mascot. However, I apparently offended the delicate sensibilities of this particular individual, who requested that I stifle my creative self-expression and remove my picture. I wasn't going to do it at first, but these things have a way of escalating, so I figured I'd better do *something* before I was banned or pilloried (and, to be honest, my intent was never to offend anyone, and I was a bit taken aback by this request).

To quote the great Zardoz himself:

"The penis is evil. The penis shoots seeds, and makes new life, and poisons the earth with a plague of men, as once it was."

[img.fark.net image 200x200]

God damn it.


Understanding that Fark will always win is the first step to enlightenment.
 
2017-08-11 11:53:36 PM  
I have a neurotic habit of opening the emergency phone compartment in every elevator I ride in.

Probably about 25% of them actually have working phones in them, the rest usually just contain loose wires and/or are absent working phones.
 
2017-08-11 11:55:01 PM  
LadySusan:

That is an ugly story.

This is sort of the bottle episode version of "A Rose for Emily", innit?
 
2017-08-12 12:03:51 AM  

Thong_of_Zardoz: No one understands why I don't use elevators unless I absolutely have to. I'd rather walk up 30 flights of stairs if that option is available to me.

This is why.


me too.  never saw anybody else on the stairs, either.
 
2017-08-12 12:09:59 AM  
I was under the impression the emergency buttons were meant to reassure occupants that it was safe, not that you actually could contact any services in an emergency. Like those crosswalk buttons that do nothing but are still there to give the impression of some sort of control.
 
2017-08-12 12:19:33 AM  
I've been stick in an elevator for a couple hours, with a dead phone and dead laptop.

Now I piss *before* taking any elevator if I have any reason to believe that I will need to in the next couple of hours.
 
2017-08-12 12:24:37 AM  

LadySusan: Dementia guy wanders into elevator in closed area of garage. Somehow gets in. Has enough left of his brain to signal for help. Although someone is supposed to monitor all elevators, they didn't. Dies a gruesome death. Residents complain about ghastly odor to management but no1currs.

That is an ugly story. If he has family, there will be lawsuits.


According to the video update, they did monitor the elevators.  And they responded to the call.  And they checked both of the elevators in operation.  But not the third elevator because it was in an area that was under renovation (and, I assume, not open to the public).

The alarm button probably just sends a general alert for the property, not specific information about which elevator's button was pressed.  Probably because it seemed that it would be obvious when they showed up to a property.
 
2017-08-12 12:29:38 AM  

Keyser_Soze_Death: I have a neurotic habit of opening the emergency phone compartment in every elevator I ride in.

Probably about 25% of them actually have working phones in them, the rest usually just contain loose wires and/or are absent working phones.


I used to know someone that worked for an elevator company, they were one of many people who answered that emergency phone. I had no idea such a thing existed as the elevator for the company I worked for had a phone that called the switchboard as soon as you picked it up. I always just assumed the phone would go to someone in the same building as the elevator.

In our experience it was the crappiest phone reception ever. We'd hang up on them quite often as you couldn't hear anything. When you got two of those calls in a row, we'd shout something into the phone like, "Are you stuck in the elevator? We are going to call someone to fix it." Sometimes we could hear the tiniest voice, other times it was just white noise.
 
2017-08-12 12:31:27 AM  
Just remembered a time I was with some friends and we were walking to the elevator in a parking garage.  Just as we were about to hit the button, the power went out so we took the stairs.  The next morning, the power outage was in the news.  That part of town was without power for about six hours.  We wouldn't have died but there definitely would have been a pee corner before the power came back on.
 
2017-08-12 12:42:29 AM  

jtown: Just remembered a time I was with some friends and we were walking to the elevator in a parking garage.  Just as we were about to hit the button, the power went out so we took the stairs.  The next morning, the power outage was in the news.  That part of town was without power for about six hours.  We wouldn't have died but there definitely would have been a pee corner before the power came back on.


jtown: Just remembered a time I was with some friends and we were walking to the elevator in a parking garage.  Just as we were about to hit the button, the power went out so we took the stairs.  The next morning, the power outage was in the news.  That part of town was without power for about six hours.  We wouldn't have died but there definitely would have been a pee corner before the power came back on.


I could never live down taking a piss or crap in an elevator.  I would be taunted for it for years.
 
2017-08-12 12:45:15 AM  

Thong_of_Zardoz: No one understands why I don't use elevators unless I absolutely have to. I'd rather walk up 30 flights of stairs if that option is available to me.

This is why.


What if you have a heart attack climbing all those stairs that could have been avoided by simply taking the elevator instead.  Your gravestone could read "he died running from his fears".
 
2017-08-12 12:46:29 AM  

Cosmic Cowboy: Thong_of_Zardoz: No one understands why I don't use elevators unless I absolutely have to. I'd rather walk up 30 flights of stairs if that option is available to me.

This is why.

What if you have a heart attack climbing all those stairs that could have been avoided by simply taking the elevator instead.  Your gravestone could read "he died running from his fears".


Hmm, that got a little dark, was supposed to just be some light irony... sorry it's late
 
2017-08-12 01:00:13 AM  

Cosmic Cowboy: Cosmic Cowboy: Thong_of_Zardoz: No one understands why I don't use elevators unless I absolutely have to. I'd rather walk up 30 flights of stairs if that option is available to me.

This is why.

What if you have a heart attack climbing all those stairs that could have been avoided by simply taking the elevator instead.  Your gravestone could read "he died running from his fears".

Hmm, that got a little dark, was supposed to just be some light irony... sorry it's late


Heh, no worries.
 
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