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(Las Vegas Sun)   US Patent office must have a Canadian sports fan in its ear, makes the Vegas Golden Knights' trademark issue more complicated than it should be   ( lasvegassun.com) divider line
    More: Asinine, United States Patent and Trademark Office, Trademark, Patent attorney, Federal government, Professional sports league organization, Patrick Jennings, Time, USPTO  
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2017-08-11 01:05:45 PM  
We should have gone with the Desert Knights, or the Silver Knights(we are the silver state, afterall).
 
2017-08-11 02:41:27 PM  
So close, Subby... It's the Trademark Office that initially refused the application, not the Patent Office. They're two separate branches. You could've either referred to the entire organization - the Patent and Trademark Office or PTO - or just the Trademark Office. The Patent Office had nothing to do with this, though.

As for the mark, the issue was that there's a collegiate Golden Knights team that has a registered mark (plus two collegiate Knights teams that have pending applications). They successfully argued that sports fans are used to pro and collegiate teams sharing names (BC/Philly Eagles, Oregon/Anaheim Ducks, Brown/Cincinnati Browns, etc.), so people wouldn't be confused.
 
2017-08-11 02:44:00 PM  

Theaetetus: They successfully argued that sports fans are used to pro and collegiate teams sharing names (BC/Philly Eagles, Oregon/Anaheim Ducks, Brown/Cincinnati Browns, etc.), so people wouldn't be confused.


Which is really farking obvious, and has a ton of precedent. It's kinda ridiculous that their application was denied in the first place. And I say that as a fan of the Clarkson Golden Knights.
 
2017-08-11 02:50:52 PM  

Theaetetus: So close, Subby... It's the Trademark Office that initially refused the application, not the Patent Office. They're two separate branches. You could've either referred to the entire organization - the Patent and Trademark Office or PTO - or just the Trademark Office. The Patent Office had nothing to do with this, though.

As for the mark, the issue was that there's a collegiate Golden Knights team that has a registered mark (plus two collegiate Knights teams that have pending applications). They successfully argued that sports fans are used to pro and collegiate teams sharing names (BC/Philly Eagles, Oregon/Anaheim Ducks, Brown/Cincinnati Browns, etc.), so people wouldn't be confused.


Um you may have upset Cleveland saying the Browns are in Cincinnati.  What could happen if say The Detroit Lions wanted to sue the CFL over the BC Lions?
 
2017-08-11 02:56:43 PM  
there are literally two AHL teams called the Admirals, come on, let this slide

alternatively, they should have taken their expansion check and gone home when they NHL refused to allow them to be named anything even remotely close to gambling
 
2017-08-11 03:01:20 PM  
Vegas is gonna be the best and worst thing that has happened to America sports in a while.

Awesome.
 
2017-08-11 03:11:37 PM  

Mole Man: Um you may have upset Cleveland saying the Browns are in Cincinnati.


Probably upset Cincinnati more.
 
2017-08-11 03:12:38 PM  

ElwoodCuse: there are literally two AHL teams called the Admirals, come on, let this slide

alternatively, they should have taken their expansion check and gone home when they NHL refused to allow them to be named anything even remotely close to gambling


The Vegas Odds?
 
2017-08-11 03:17:31 PM  

ElwoodCuse: there are literally two AHL teams called the Admirals, come on, let this slide


I miss the days when the CFL had the Rough Riders and the Roughriders.

alternatively, they should have taken their expansion check and gone home when they NHL refused to allow them to be named anything even remotely close to gambling

Also, THIS!  Or even just go with 'Vegas Knights.'  It rolls off the tongue better.
 
2017-08-11 03:36:38 PM  

Theaetetus: Mole Man: Um you may have upset Cleveland saying the Browns are in Cincinnati.

Probably upset Cincinnati more.


This still makes me laugh.

Sam Wyche "You don't live in Cleveland" speech
Youtube yJMa20xXykI
 
2017-08-11 03:43:00 PM  

buckeyebrain: ElwoodCuse: there are literally two AHL teams called the Admirals, come on, let this slide

I miss the days when the CFL had the Rough Riders and the Roughriders.


From the Wiki:

Although there was sentiment toward resurrecting the Rough Riders name, Chen expected payment for the rights to it. (hence Renegades)

We won't even talk abut the Glieberman's.

Go Green!
 
2017-08-11 04:02:54 PM  

Mole Man: buckeyebrain: ElwoodCuse: there are literally two AHL teams called the Admirals, come on, let this slide

I miss the days when the CFL had the Rough Riders and the Roughriders.

From the Wiki:

Although there was sentiment toward resurrecting the Rough Riders name, Chen expected payment for the rights to it. (hence Renegades)

We won't even talk abut the Glieberman's.

Go Green!


That was the Renegades. As I understand the RedBlacks either got the name or had a deal in place to get the name, but Saskatchewan blocked it.
 
2017-08-11 04:08:40 PM  

dywed88: Mole Man: buckeyebrain: ElwoodCuse: there are literally two AHL teams called the Admirals, come on, let this slide

I miss the days when the CFL had the Rough Riders and the Roughriders.

From the Wiki:

Although there was sentiment toward resurrecting the Rough Riders name, Chen expected payment for the rights to it. (hence Renegades)

We won't even talk abut the Glieberman's.

Go Green!

That was the Renegades. As I understand the RedBlacks either got the name or had a deal in place to get the name, but Saskatchewan blocked it.


Pretty much.

Wiki:

In 2008, Jeff Hunt acquired the Ottawa CFL franchise rights with the intent of relaunching professional football in Ottawa. He also acquired the Rough Riders intellectual properties from Chen.[11]Because the Saskatchewan Roughriders enforced their trademark on the Rough Riders name, Hunt's franchise was required to choose a new name. It took the field in 2014 as the Ottawa Redblacks. At present, the CFL does not acknowledge the Redblacks (or for that matter, the Renegades) as the Rough Riders' successor in the same way it considers all three iterations of the Montreal Alouettes to be one franchise.
 
2017-08-11 04:25:34 PM  
VGK preseason tickets went on sale and holy nuts they're expensive.  To Stubhub for me.

/I miss the Wranglers
 
2017-08-11 05:14:06 PM  
Or the owner could have come up with an actual name that has anything to do with Vegas and/or has the slightest spark of originality.

But TROOPS so Golden Knights.
 
2017-08-11 06:54:01 PM  

ElwoodCuse: there are literally two AHL teams called the Admirals, come on, let this slide


Norfolk's in the ECHL now, man.
 
2017-08-11 07:55:23 PM  

Mole Man: Theaetetus: So close, Subby... It's the Trademark Office that initially refused the application, not the Patent Office. They're two separate branches. You could've either referred to the entire organization - the Patent and Trademark Office or PTO - or just the Trademark Office. The Patent Office had nothing to do with this, though.

As for the mark, the issue was that there's a collegiate Golden Knights team that has a registered mark (plus two collegiate Knights teams that have pending applications). They successfully argued that sports fans are used to pro and collegiate teams sharing names (BC/Philly Eagles, Oregon/Anaheim Ducks, Brown/Cincinnati Browns, etc.), so people wouldn't be confused.

Um you may have upset Cleveland saying the Browns are in Cincinnati.  What could happen if say The Detroit Lions wanted to sue the CFL over the BC Lions?


For the Lions, I doubt either team cared about the other's market in the fifties.
 
2017-08-11 08:00:42 PM  

buckeyebrain: ElwoodCuse: there are literally two AHL teams called the Admirals, come on, let this slide

I miss the days when the CFL had the Rough Riders and the Roughriders.

alternatively, they should have taken their expansion check and gone home when they NHL refused to allow them to be named anything even remotely close to gambling

Also, THIS!  Or even just go with 'Vegas Knights.'  It rolls off the tongue better.


The London Knights were going to challenge any trademark. And that could make the use of the branding in Canada, or at least Ontario, pretty difficult. Owners would be less worried about challenges from a couple small private colleges than a prominent OHL team.
 
2017-08-12 10:31:03 AM  
When this issue is resolved........jeez, a Las Vegas-vs.-Nashville Stanley Cup final (potentially)?
That would be NBC's biggest sports turkey ever, INCLUDING the XFL and probably the 2018
Winter Olympics (if the US doesn't boycott because they're being held in Russia, and Trump
and Putin still have their noses out of joint).
 
2017-08-12 11:14:46 AM  

Li'l Robbie: When this issue is resolved........jeez, a Las Vegas-vs.-Nashville Stanley Cup final (potentially)?
That would be NBC's biggest sports turkey ever, INCLUDING the XFL and probably the 2018
Winter Olympics (if the US doesn't boycott because they're being held in Russia, and Trump
and Putin still have their noses out of joint).


Not sure if serious, but the 2018 Winter Olympics are in Peyongchang, South Korea, unless you're thinking of the World Cup, which is going to be on Fox.
 
2017-08-12 01:13:36 PM  

puckrock2000: Li'l Robbie: When this issue is resolved........jeez, a Las Vegas-vs.-Nashville Stanley Cup final (potentially)?
That would be NBC's biggest sports turkey ever, INCLUDING the XFL and probably the 2018
Winter Olympics (if the US doesn't boycott because they're being held in Russia, and Trump
and Putin still have their noses out of joint).

Not sure if serious, but the 2018 Winter Olympics are in Peyongchang, South Korea, unless you're thinking of the World Cup, which is going to be on Fox.


Not to mention that Vegas and Nashville are both in the Western Conference.
 
2017-08-12 01:54:02 PM  

Theaetetus: Mole Man: Um you may have upset Cleveland saying the Browns are in Cincinnati.

Probably upset Cincinnati more.


That, my good sir, was a masterful reversal. I raise my glass of tea in your honor.
 
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