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(The Hill)   The majority of Americans feel Trump's finances should be part of the Russia probe   ( thehill.com) divider line
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2017-08-10 08:18:33 AM  
This is going to drive Trump up the walls of his luxurious golf club. Worryingly enough that he might see nuclear war as a better alternative than seeing his tax returns exposed, among other things.
 
2017-08-10 08:21:25 AM  
I thought we established his finances were under heavy scrutiny when Mueller hired a bunch of forensic accountants.
 
2017-08-10 08:22:39 AM  

OdradekRex: This is going to drive Trump up the walls of his luxurious golf club. Worryingly enough that he might see nuclear war as a better alternative than seeing his tax returns exposed, among other things.


Relax, Trump is now in a truth bubble managed by interns. They'll print out a copy of the Fox coverage and an online Breitbart poll showing how 87% the Russian probe is fake.
 
2017-08-10 08:22:44 AM  

OdradekRex: This is going to drive Trump up the walls of his luxurious golf club. Worryingly enough that he might see nuclear war as a better alternative than seeing his tax returns exposed, among other things.


What frightens me about Trump's administration is the level of thuggery I can see them going to in order to distract from issues / bad press. I mean, think about it... could you ever fathom of Obama bombing a US building, just to distract from something he didn't want to deal with? Now, think about Trump? That man manufactures outrage, in order to deflect attention from his horrific behavior. Starting armed conflict to distract from his finances isn't a stretch.
 
2017-08-10 08:22:58 AM  
The remainder believe STIGGINIT to still be top priority.
 
2017-08-10 08:23:59 AM  

UNC_Samurai: I thought we established his finances were under heavy scrutiny when Mueller hired a bunch of forensic accountants.


Yeah but Trump has been trying to poison the well in an effort to sway public opinion.  Looks like it didn't work.
 
2017-08-10 08:26:15 AM  

Cheron: OdradekRex: This is going to drive Trump up the walls of his luxurious golf club. Worryingly enough that he might see nuclear war as a better alternative than seeing his tax returns exposed, among other things.

Relax, Trump is now in a truth bubble managed by interns. They'll print out a copy of the Fox coverage and an online Breitbart poll showing how 87% the Russian probe is fake.


Not interns.  No, he's paying someone high five figures to manage his ego-masturbation.
 
2017-08-10 08:26:15 AM  

bobug: OdradekRex: This is going to drive Trump up the walls of his luxurious golf club. Worryingly enough that he might see nuclear war as a better alternative than seeing his tax returns exposed, among other things.

What frightens me about Trump's administration is the level of thuggery I can see them going to in order to distract from issues / bad press. I mean, think about it... could you ever fathom of Obama bombing a US building, just to distract from something he didn't want to deal with? Now, think about Trump? That man manufactures outrage, in order to deflect attention from his horrific behavior. Starting armed conflict to distract from his finances isn't a stretch.


Yeah, and not just the administration.

Also from The Hill: Half of Republicans would back delaying 2020 election if Trump proposed it
 
2017-08-10 08:28:22 AM  
Looking forward to the Trump tweet: "I am not a crook."
 
2017-08-10 08:28:53 AM  
Hmm, why would they think that?
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2017-08-10 08:29:55 AM  

bobug: That man manufactures outrage, in order to deflect attention from his horrific behavior. Starting armed conflict to distract from his finances isn't a stretch.


Remember how Sebastian Gorka refused comment on the Minnesota mosque bombing?

There is no proof, yet, that Gorka has recommended a false flag terror attack in the continental US Trump can blame on the (((globalists))) and use as an excuse to round up anybody who won't STFU about Russia---on the grounds that (((globalists))) fake "patriotic" terror attacks to make Trump look bad all the time. But it would not surprise me at all.
 
2017-08-10 08:30:12 AM  

WI241TH: bobug: OdradekRex: This is going to drive Trump up the walls of his luxurious golf club. Worryingly enough that he might see nuclear war as a better alternative than seeing his tax returns exposed, among other things.

What frightens me about Trump's administration is the level of thuggery I can see them going to in order to distract from issues / bad press. I mean, think about it... could you ever fathom of Obama bombing a US building, just to distract from something he didn't want to deal with? Now, think about Trump? That man manufactures outrage, in order to deflect attention from his horrific behavior. Starting armed conflict to distract from his finances isn't a stretch.

Yeah, and not just the administration.

Also from The Hill: Half of Republicans would back delaying 2020 election if Trump proposed it


In other related news, a majority of the GOP is delusional, insane, or both.
 
2017-08-10 08:31:58 AM  
I feel a poem coming on...
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How Donald Trump got his wealth

is nobody's business but hissealth

.

Did he steal it, did he cheat

Did he make his fortune off the government teat?

.

Or, to avoid posting a loss

Did he take money from a Russian crime boss?

.

For the super-rich, that's just how it goes

But we know Trump is loyal... to the people he owes...

.

Burma Shave!

 
2017-08-10 08:33:20 AM  

bobug: OdradekRex: This is going to drive Trump up the walls of his luxurious golf club. Worryingly enough that he might see nuclear war as a better alternative than seeing his tax returns exposed, among other things.

What frightens me about Trump's administration is the level of thuggery I can see them going to in order to distract from issues / bad press. I mean, think about it... could you ever fathom of Obama bombing a US building, just to distract from something he didn't want to deal with? Now, think about Trump? That man manufactures outrage, in order to deflect attention from his horrific behavior. Starting armed conflict to distract from his finances isn't a stretch.


There's that word again...

img.fark.netView Full Size
 
2017-08-10 08:34:17 AM  

MikeyFuccon: bobug: That man manufactures outrage, in order to deflect attention from his horrific behavior. Starting armed conflict to distract from his finances isn't a stretch.

Remember how Sebastian Gorka refused comment on the Minnesota mosque bombing?

There is no proof, yet, that Gorka has recommended a false flag terror attack in the continental US Trump can blame on the (((globalists))) and use as an excuse to round up anybody who won't STFU about Russia---on the grounds that (((globalists))) fake "patriotic" terror attacks to make Trump look bad all the time. But it would not surprise me at all.


I speak French. And have two STEM degrees. Mr. Bobug is finishing his second STEM degree. New Zealand, France... they're starting to look like viable options.
 
2017-08-10 08:35:16 AM  

ClipJoint: bobug: OdradekRex: This is going to drive Trump up the walls of his luxurious golf club. Worryingly enough that he might see nuclear war as a better alternative than seeing his tax returns exposed, among other things.

What frightens me about Trump's administration is the level of thuggery I can see them going to in order to distract from issues / bad press. I mean, think about it... could you ever fathom of Obama bombing a US building, just to distract from something he didn't want to deal with? Now, think about Trump? That man manufactures outrage, in order to deflect attention from his horrific behavior. Starting armed conflict to distract from his finances isn't a stretch.

There's that word again...

[img.fark.net image 425x286]


Worse, the lesson learned was that Nixon didn't go far enough...
 
2017-08-10 08:35:36 AM  

WI241TH: bobug: OdradekRex: This is going to drive Trump up the walls of his luxurious golf club. Worryingly enough that he might see nuclear war as a better alternative than seeing his tax returns exposed, among other things.

What frightens me about Trump's administration is the level of thuggery I can see them going to in order to distract from issues / bad press. I mean, think about it... could you ever fathom of Obama bombing a US building, just to distract from something he didn't want to deal with? Now, think about Trump? That man manufactures outrage, in order to deflect attention from his horrific behavior. Starting armed conflict to distract from his finances isn't a stretch.

Yeah, and not just the administration.

Also from The Hill: Half of Republicans would back delaying 2020 election if Trump proposed it


Holy sh*t, that link is frightening.
 
2017-08-10 08:43:11 AM  

bigfatbuddhist: I feel a poem coming on...
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 690x461]


Which is the Grand Poobah?
 
2017-08-10 08:45:07 AM  
I assume the Derp talking point is that anything Trump did with his finances pre-election is off limits because it was just Trump being the super businessman that he is and exploiting any allowable legal loophole that he could use.
 
2017-08-10 08:45:17 AM  

Sgygus: Looking forward to the Trump tweet: "I am not a crook."


There's no way that one of his tweets will ever be that eloquent and coherent.
 
2017-08-10 08:53:54 AM  
Trump's Hidden Finances = Cheated on taxes, shady deals
Obama's Hidden School Transcripts = Anti-American commie rants; undeserved placements
Clinton's Hidden Health Records = Big time venereal disease

/Admit it, deny it, whatever.  The majority of Americans already know the deal
 
2017-08-10 08:56:04 AM  

ClipJoint: WI241TH: bobug: OdradekRex: This is going to drive Trump up the walls of his luxurious golf club. Worryingly enough that he might see nuclear war as a better alternative than seeing his tax returns exposed, among other things.

What frightens me about Trump's administration is the level of thuggery I can see them going to in order to distract from issues / bad press. I mean, think about it... could you ever fathom of Obama bombing a US building, just to distract from something he didn't want to deal with? Now, think about Trump? That man manufactures outrage, in order to deflect attention from his horrific behavior. Starting armed conflict to distract from his finances isn't a stretch.

Yeah, and not just the administration.

Also from The Hill: Half of Republicans would back delaying 2020 election if Trump proposed it

Holy sh*t, that link is frightening.


There is a lot of power in the mob, and the R's have spent decades getting the skill of stating things in a manner that sounds like it is quasi-reasonable, if you don't think about it, or the implications. Then they use it to demonize rationality. E.g. trying to garner support for outlawing veterinarians...

"Should we outlaw and prosecute anyone who performs euthanasia?"
"But you're going to outlaw those who have legitimate needs to euthanize ..."
"THIS PERSON SUPPORTS KILLING OUR CITIZENS!"
"I'm talking about dogs, cats, sick animals..."
"NOW THIS PERSON CALLS OUR CITIZENS ANIMALS!"

We are on the pants-on-head crazy train.
 
2017-08-10 08:57:00 AM  

Il Douchey: Trump's Hidden Finances = Cheated on taxes, shady deals
Obama's Hidden School Transcripts = Anti-American commie rants; undeserved placements
Clinton's Hidden Health Records = Big time venereal disease

/Admit it, deny it, whatever.  The majority of Americans already know the deal


We get it, he's black.
 
2017-08-10 08:57:06 AM  

bobug: MikeyFuccon: bobug: That man manufactures outrage, in order to deflect attention from his horrific behavior. Starting armed conflict to distract from his finances isn't a stretch.

Remember how Sebastian Gorka refused comment on the Minnesota mosque bombing?

There is no proof, yet, that Gorka has recommended a false flag terror attack in the continental US Trump can blame on the (((globalists))) and use as an excuse to round up anybody who won't STFU about Russia---on the grounds that (((globalists))) fake "patriotic" terror attacks to make Trump look bad all the time. But it would not surprise me at all.

I speak French. And have two STEM degrees. Mr. Bobug is finishing his second STEM degree. New Zealand, France... they're starting to look like viable options.


As someone who has worked on and off internationally then for the last 30 years, you had better get on it ASAP, because the market place has changed.

1.Countries have educated themselves to high levels in the last three decades.
2.Competition has become fierce from immigrants.(people like you).

With a higher educated populace most countries have rules in place that if you have someone local who is qualified, then they hire them first.

Also, companies have to provide visas(which cost time, and money to procure) so this pushes even more towards local candidates.

Ads used to read "Looking for X will provide housing, moving expenses, visa attorney" now tend to read "must already have visa".

If I were you I would look at any possibility of finagling a passport/citizenship to another country, that helps tremendously.

I for example was born in the US and my father was born in Colombia.  However, my grandfather was born in Panama.  My father holds both Colombian and Panamanian citizenships.  I hold them as well.

Due to Spain "apologizing" for the inquisition, if you could prove your kin was run off during those crazy fun times, you could get citizenship.  Well, I did.

So I have an American, Colombian, Panamanian, and Spanish EU passport, in my bugout bag.
 
2017-08-10 08:58:58 AM  
Trump's finances are at the very heart of the collusion with Russia.
 
2017-08-10 08:59:01 AM  

theflatline: So I have an American, Colombian, Panamanian, and Spanish EU passport, in my bugout bag.


Technically, wouldn't you only really need your US passport?
 
2017-08-10 09:00:19 AM  

StopDaddy: The remainder believe STIGGINIT to still be top priority.


Or they are insisting that he "self funded" his campaign
 
2017-08-10 09:02:36 AM  

WI241TH: bobug: OdradekRex: This is going to drive Trump up the walls of his luxurious golf club. Worryingly enough that he might see nuclear war as a better alternative than seeing his tax returns exposed, among other things.

What frightens me about Trump's administration is the level of thuggery I can see them going to in order to distract from issues / bad press. I mean, think about it... could you ever fathom of Obama bombing a US building, just to distract from something he didn't want to deal with? Now, think about Trump? That man manufactures outrage, in order to deflect attention from his horrific behavior. Starting armed conflict to distract from his finances isn't a stretch.

Yeah, and not just the administration.

Also from The Hill: Half of Republicans would back delaying 2020 election if Trump proposed it


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2017-08-10 09:04:18 AM  

theflatline: As someone who has worked on and off internationally then for the last 30 years, you had better get on it ASAP, because the market place has changed.

1.Countries have educated themselves to high levels in the last three decades.
2.Competition has become fierce from immigrants.(people like you).

With a higher educated populace most countries have rules in place that if you have someone local who is qualified, then they hire them first.

Also, companies have to provide visas(which cost time, and money to procure) so this pushes even more towards local candidates.

Ads used to read "Looking for X will provide housing, moving expenses, visa attorney" now tend to read "must already have visa".

If I were you I would look at any possibility of finagling a passport/citizenship to another country, that helps tremendously.

I for example was born in the US and my father was born in Colombia.  However, my grandfather was born in Panama.  My father holds both Colombian and Panamanian citizenships.  I hold them as well.

Due to Spain "apologizing" for the inquisition, if you could prove your kin was run off during those crazy fun times, you could get citizenship.  Well, I did.

So I have an American, Colombian, Panamanian, and Spanish EU passport, in my bugout bag.


We've been looking at NZ. We fall into their 'desirable degree / education' backgrounds, additionally the right age range. But, yes. I'm open to dual citizenship, which is why I was looking at NZ (Mr. Bobug doesn't speak any other languages, and isn't good at learning them if they exist outside of a coding application). Unfortunately, my family's mostly Irish, and were run off by famines, and his is "mutt" - and muddled enough that he can't suss out a lot of details once they hit the US.
 
2017-08-10 09:04:57 AM  
If what the majority of Americans thought had any bearing on anything, we wouldn't have a President Trump to begin with.
 
2017-08-10 09:09:50 AM  

StopDaddy: bigfatbuddhist: I feel a poem coming on...
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 690x461]

Which is the Grand Poobah?


That particular lodge is an anarcho-syndicalist lodge with a rotating officer-of-the-week who acts as executor for the week and passes motions based upon a two-thirds vote of a rotating parliament (the parliament rotates in a different direction).
 
2017-08-10 09:13:26 AM  

Il Douchey: Trump's Hidden Finances = Cheated on taxes, shady deals
Obama's Hidden School Transcripts = Anti-American commie rants; undeserved placements
Clinton's Hidden Health Records = Big time venereal disease

/Admit it, deny it, whatever.  The majority of Americans already know the deal


Have we seen Trump's school transcripts? We sure as fark haven't seen medical records from the healthiest presidentgrease streak ever.
 
2017-08-10 09:23:20 AM  
1) doesn't really matter what the majority thinks; is this a logical legal standard practice and are they treating him like any other suspect?

2) How could financial information be "out out-of-bounds" when researching quid pro quo?
 
2017-08-10 09:38:23 AM  

Ambivalence: If what the majority of Americans thought had any bearing on anything, we wouldn't have a President Trump to begin with.


BINGO.
 
2017-08-10 09:44:13 AM  

bigfatbuddhist: StopDaddy: bigfatbuddhist: I feel a poem coming on...
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 690x461]

Which is the Grand Poobah?

That particular lodge is an anarcho-syndicalist lodge with a rotating officer-of-the-week who acts as executor for the week and passes motions based upon a two-thirds vote of a rotating parliament (the parliament rotates in a different direction).


You're just going to end up with magnetic interference with that design
 
2017-08-10 09:49:50 AM  
Follow the money.
 
2017-08-10 09:56:00 AM  

Epoch_Zero: bigfatbuddhist: StopDaddy: bigfatbuddhist: I feel a poem coming on...
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 690x461]

Which is the Grand Poobah?

That particular lodge is an anarcho-syndicalist lodge with a rotating officer-of-the-week who acts as executor for the week and passes motions based upon a two-thirds vote of a rotating parliament (the parliament rotates in a different direction).

You're just going to end up with magnetic interference with that design


Well, it just Gauss to show you...
 
2017-08-10 09:57:56 AM  

bigfatbuddhist: Epoch_Zero: bigfatbuddhist: StopDaddy: bigfatbuddhist: I feel a poem coming on...
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 690x461]

Which is the Grand Poobah?

That particular lodge is an anarcho-syndicalist lodge with a rotating officer-of-the-week who acts as executor for the week and passes motions based upon a two-thirds vote of a rotating parliament (the parliament rotates in a different direction).

You're just going to end up with magnetic interference with that design

Well, it just Gauss to show you...


slow clap...
 
2017-08-10 10:07:14 AM  
A majority, 60 percent, also says the Russia probe is a serious matter, compared to 38 percent who think it is an attempt to discredit the current president.

Wow, that looks almost EXACTLY like his approval ratings.... how shocking.

Also from The Hill: Half of Republicans would back delaying 2020 election if Trump proposed it

The scarier part of that polling is that the segment of the population that is backing keeping Trump in power as effectively a dictator, likely has at minimum a 10 to 1 guns per person ownership advantage over the rest of the population.

Yes, I know there are some "libby libs" out there who also own guns, but, you know that is the vast minority, and that the types of people who would back "Fuhrer Trump" are also the ones who have stockpiles of guns in their basement.   If Trump truly wants to do this, he not only has at least some of the U.S. military to back him (some in the ranks, hopefully many, would turn against him, although over the next few years he'd likely get people in power positions who would back him, and then hope that the mass of the lower ranks would "fall in line"), but, he'd also have the wide swath of "Michigan Militia" type of organizations to come out of the shadows and be more than willing to help him out.

I will also admit that the above sounds very similar to the "conspiracy theories" about Obama "taking all of your guns" and "suspending elections to keep himself in office".   I guess my only response to that is, hopefully Trump is not as much of a narcissist and "control freak" as over half of us think he is that the conspiracy theories have legs.   Much of the theories about Obama were based in racial bias against him.... the worries about Trump have more to do with his direct words and actions.
 
2017-08-10 10:08:34 AM  

UNC_Samurai: I thought we established his finances were under heavy scrutiny when Mueller hired a bunch of forensic accountants.


Can't wait until they subpoena his tax returns for the last decade or so.
 
2017-08-10 10:20:01 AM  

bigfatbuddhist: Epoch_Zero: bigfatbuddhist: StopDaddy: bigfatbuddhist: I feel a poem coming on...
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 690x461]

Which is the Grand Poobah?

That particular lodge is an anarcho-syndicalist lodge with a rotating officer-of-the-week who acts as executor for the week and passes motions based upon a two-thirds vote of a rotating parliament (the parliament rotates in a different direction).

You're just going to end up with magnetic interference with that design

Well, it just Gauss to show you...


i.imgur.comView Full Size
 
2017-08-10 11:48:08 AM  

bigfatbuddhist: Epoch_Zero: bigfatbuddhist: StopDaddy: bigfatbuddhist: I feel a poem coming on...
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 690x461]

Which is the Grand Poobah?

That particular lodge is an anarcho-syndicalist lodge with a rotating officer-of-the-week who acts as executor for the week and passes motions based upon a two-thirds vote of a rotating parliament (the parliament rotates in a different direction).

You're just going to end up with magnetic interference with that design

Well, it just Gauss to show you...


Leaving happy.
 
2017-08-10 12:43:33 PM  

ClipJoint: bobug: OdradekRex: This is going to drive Trump up the walls of his luxurious golf club. Worryingly enough that he might see nuclear war as a better alternative than seeing his tax returns exposed, among other things.

What frightens me about Trump's administration is the level of thuggery I can see them going to in order to distract from issues / bad press. I mean, think about it... could you ever fathom of Obama bombing a US building, just to distract from something he didn't want to deal with? Now, think about Trump? That man manufactures outrage, in order to deflect attention from his horrific behavior. Starting armed conflict to distract from his finances isn't a stretch.

There's that word again...

[img.fark.net image 425x286]


Nice find.  Maybe would have learned are lesson better had Ford not pardoned Nixon.  Maybe the US could teach future generations a better lesson if they don't pardon Trump.
 
2017-08-10 01:49:37 PM  
His finances are inextricably tied to this investigation. They must be reviewed.

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2017-08-10 02:14:13 PM  

natazha: UNC_Samurai: I thought we established his finances were under heavy scrutiny when Mueller hired a bunch of forensic accountants.

Can't wait until they subpoena his tax returns for the last decade or so.


You think they haven't already?

That would almost certainly be one of the first things they got.
 
2017-08-10 02:57:55 PM  
everything should be on the table.
collusion, obstruction, finances, taxes, ex-wives, current wife, children, all friends and all acquaintances.
anything and everything.
turn over every stone.
we need to overturn this election at all costs, make an example of him and his supporters.
YOU DON'T MESS WITH THE CLINTONS AND YOU DON'T MESS WITH THE SWAMP
it's high time the other side learns who's in charge around here.
 
2017-08-10 03:16:35 PM  

colon_pow: everything should be on the table.
collusion, obstruction, finances, taxes, ex-wives, current wife, children, all friends and all acquaintances.
anything and everything.
turn over every stone.
we need to overturn this election at all costs, make an example of him and his supporters.
YOU DON'T MESS WITH THE CLINTONS AND YOU DON'T MESS WITH THE SWAMP
it's high time the other side learns who's in charge around here.


a mixture of butthurt, sarcasm, and straw man arguments but mostly it simply lacks originality.  Your keyboards works though so you got that going for you which is nice.
 
2017-08-10 03:18:03 PM  

mrshowrules: colon_pow: everything should be on the table.
collusion, obstruction, finances, taxes, ex-wives, current wife, children, all friends and all acquaintances.
anything and everything.
turn over every stone.
we need to overturn this election at all costs, make an example of him and his supporters.
YOU DON'T MESS WITH THE CLINTONS AND YOU DON'T MESS WITH THE SWAMP
it's high time the other side learns who's in charge around here.

a mixture of butthurt, sarcasm, and straw man arguments but mostly it simply lacks originality.  Your keyboards works though so you got that going for you which is nice.


there's something else in there.  you need to learn to read between the lines.
 
2017-08-10 03:19:37 PM  

colon_pow: everything should be on the table.
collusion, obstruction, finances, taxes, ex-wives, current wife, children, all friends and all acquaintances.
anything and everything.
turn over every stone.
we need to overturn this election at all costs, make an example of him and his supporters.
YOU DON'T MESS WITH THE CLINTONS AND YOU DON'T MESS WITH THE SWAMP
it's high time the other side learns who's in charge around here.


My goodness but you're pathetic.
 
2017-08-10 03:44:39 PM  

PlaidJaguar: colon_pow: everything should be on the table.
collusion, obstruction, finances, taxes, ex-wives, current wife, children, all friends and all acquaintances.
anything and everything.
turn over every stone.
we need to overturn this election at all costs, make an example of him and his supporters.
YOU DON'T MESS WITH THE CLINTONS AND YOU DON'T MESS WITH THE SWAMP
it's high time the other side learns who's in charge around here.

My goodness but you're pathetic.


what you are looking at is a view from the other side.  i apologize if it upsets your sensibilities.
but don't let it bother you that people who voted for trump because he was going to put america first, see the "resistance" in just this way.
nothing personal, we just recognize a an attempted coup de etat when we see one.
 
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