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(Guardian)   Why have so many music festivals gone wrong this year? Could it be the lack of avocado toast?   ( theguardian.com) divider line
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2017-08-09 10:06:06 AM  
Festival failures are extremely public failures. Film (and mud-mosh) at 11.
 
2017-08-09 12:13:31 PM  
Go to
 
2017-08-09 12:14:32 PM  
Coachella.
 
2017-08-09 01:55:41 PM  
millennial ennui
 
2017-08-09 02:00:11 PM  

meera's frog spear: millennial ennui


Millennui
 
2017-08-09 02:02:15 PM  
Yeah that looks like fun.

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2017-08-09 02:06:40 PM  
It's because music festivals are annoying after you turn 30, and millenials are now of that age. Another factor is that all music festivals eventually implode into corporate marketing nonsense.
 
2017-08-09 02:08:47 PM  

DecemberNitro: Yeah that looks like fun.

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The mud? Worked for the original Woodstock just fine.
 
2017-08-09 02:09:57 PM  
Because they aren't at all about he music, as they are about exclusivity and displays of
conspicuous consumption by rich kids. The people in the mud and standing in line for a $10 hot dog
are nothing..It's the trust fund whale kids that come in by private jet and spend a fortune on
private tents,fancy food spreads, open bars and back stage access etc.. That's what it's all about..It sure isn't about the music at all. It's giving a stage to the trust funders to show themselves off.
 
2017-08-09 02:14:51 PM  
FFS, avocado doesn't go on toast.

It goes on tacos.

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/Gorram yuppies
 
2017-08-09 02:15:18 PM  
 
2017-08-09 02:16:04 PM  

lindalouwho: DecemberNitro: Yeah that looks like fun.

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The mud? Worked for the original Woodstock just fine.


It's not 1969 anymore.  Trying to relive that one moment in time over and over again isn't going to work.
 
2017-08-09 02:18:59 PM  

REO-Weedwagon: Another factor is that all music festivals eventually implode into corporate marketing nonsense.


Eventually? I thought paying outrageous prices to watch a bunch of shiatty opener bands promote their album flops on major labels, and then get bombarded with Coca-Cola/Unilever/Monster Energy/Budweiser ads and products is the normal routine at festivals.
 
2017-08-09 02:24:52 PM  
I think it's partly because there is so much music available, much of it has become compartmentalized.  The local rock station was talking about some rock / metal festival happening in a month or two, and they had a lineup of something like 30 bands.  One I rather like, two or three I'm familiar with and think are ok, about half a dozen I actively dislike, and the rest I'd never even heard of.  So no, I'm not going to pay a couple hundred dollars to go to that festival.

Admittedly, my own musical tastes are rather narrow, but unless the line-up includes one of my three favorite bands, I'm not likely to be interested.

/One or both of two of my favorite bands is usually at Wacken, so I'd probably do that if I could afford the trip (I can't)
//And Freddie's dead, so the third of my favorite bands won't be playing any festivals.
 
2017-08-09 02:25:32 PM  
13 Phish concerts in NYC takes a lot out of your trust fund.
 
2017-08-09 02:27:26 PM  

Khellendros: lindalouwho: DecemberNitro: Yeah that looks like fun.

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The mud? Worked for the original Woodstock just fine.

It's not 1969 anymore.  Trying to relive that one moment in time over and over again isn't going to work.


It was a joke, and I wasn't old enough to go to Woodstock :-p
 
2017-08-09 02:27:34 PM  

Khellendros: lindalouwho: DecemberNitro: Yeah that looks like fun.

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The mud? Worked for the original Woodstock just fine.

It's not 1969 anymore.  Trying to relive that one moment in time over and over again isn't going to work.

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Worked in 94
 
2017-08-09 02:34:59 PM  
I just attended a 3-day music festival in New York and had a perfectly good time. There was no avocado toast in evidence, although to be fair I didn't go looking for any and would have run the other way if I'd come across it. But this was just a little old folk music festival, which is a different animal than the one in TFA. I probably wouldn't want to attend one of those monsters.

Go seek out the smaller festivals. You can hear plenty of good music without all the expense, aggravation, and trust fund babies.
 
2017-08-09 02:36:40 PM  
If Music Festivals Were Honest - Honest Ads (Bonnaroo, Coachella, Lollapalooza Parody)
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2017-08-09 02:37:29 PM  

Madison_Smiled: I just attended a 3-day music festival in New York and had a perfectly good time. There was no avocado toast in evidence, although to be fair I didn't go looking for any and would have run the other way if I'd come across it. But this was just a little old folk music festival, which is a different animal than the one in TFA. I probably wouldn't want to attend one of those monsters.

Go seek out the smaller festivals. You can hear plenty of good music without all the expense, aggravation, and trust fund babies.


This is great advice for today's world, some of the bigger festivals are almost unrecognizable to me these days.
 
2017-08-09 02:37:39 PM  

lindalouwho: It was a joke, and I wasn't old enough to go to Woodstock :-p


Oh, I know.  But there are many that still are trying to recreate that nostalgia.  A dozen times a year at different locales.  And it's mostly a severe disappointment, and also a money loser.

rgGolf4: Worked in 94


Woodstock '94 was logistical clusterfark, and wasn't well-liked by most attendees.  This was then followed by '99, which was a violent disaster that included a host of sexual assaults and at least one death, along with massive dehydration and a dozen acts of arson.
 
2017-08-09 02:47:12 PM  

CygnusDarius: FFS, avocado doesn't go on toast.

It goes on tacos.

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/Gorram yuppies


It does though, especially with bacon and smoked sea salt too
 
2017-08-09 02:50:39 PM  

LarryDan43: 13 Phish concerts in NYC takes a lot out of your trust fund.


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2017-08-09 02:52:40 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: CygnusDarius: FFS, avocado doesn't go on toast.

It goes on tacos.

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/Gorram yuppies

It does though, especially with bacon and smoked sea salt too


Call me an unwashed plebe, but, why would you smoke salt? The bacon makes sense, though.
 
2017-08-09 02:55:49 PM  
Sorry... Avocado toast is so 10 minutes ago.

We're on to Avolattes.

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2017-08-09 03:01:27 PM  
My diagonally-across-the-street neighbor told me the Gathering of the Juggalos sucked, so I can confirm this headline.
 
2017-08-09 03:02:17 PM  
I have literally never seen avocado toast anywhere. I'm still not 100% clear what it is. If I still lived in the lower right-hand corner of nowhere that was Lubbock, TX, I'd get that. But I live in fairly hipster-friendly KCMO, and still am pretty sure it's not actually a thing.
 
2017-08-09 03:02:26 PM  

Mr. Shabooboo: Because they aren't at all about he music


But Blink182 was going to headline Fyre Festival, how can you say that?
 
2017-08-09 03:04:14 PM  

Learned Hand Job: I have literally never seen avocado toast anywhere. I'm still not 100% clear what it is. If I still lived in the lower right-hand corner of nowhere that was Lubbock, TX, I'd get that. But I live in fairly hipster-friendly KCMO, and still am pretty sure it's not actually a thing.


Slice avocado, smoosh on to toast. Season as you like. I'm unsure why it's an object of derision, it's cheap and tastes good.
 
2017-08-09 03:05:25 PM  
"Could It Be Satan's Climate Change?"
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2017-08-09 03:10:45 PM  
I have no interest in the larger festivals, but I just went to Moe.Down in NY and it was great.  maybe 6-7,000 people.  I would do that again.  Before I had kids I would go to 2 or 3 a year but they get to be a pain in the ass after a while with the mud and f-ed up people all around.
 
2017-08-09 03:11:44 PM  

REO-Weedwagon: It's because music festivals are annoying after you turn 30, and millenials are now of that age. Another factor is that all music festivals eventually implode into corporate marketing nonsense.


It's 2030 already?  Wow, how time flies.
 
2017-08-09 03:12:35 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Learned Hand Job: I have literally never seen avocado toast anywhere. I'm still not 100% clear what it is. If I still lived in the lower right-hand corner of nowhere that was Lubbock, TX, I'd get that. But I live in fairly hipster-friendly KCMO, and still am pretty sure it's not actually a thing.

Slice avocado, smoosh on to toast. Season as you like. I'm unsure why it's an object of derision, it's cheap and tastes good.


So, the avocado isn't toasted or anything? It's literally just avocado on toast? I am not clear as to why it is either an object of derision or something worth paying to have someone else make for you.

I mean, I've had that. I've also had guac on toast because I had no chips. It's literally the "I don't feel like going to the store, what can I throw together as a snack" food.

The internet has brought out the stupidest of humanity.
 
2017-08-09 03:13:36 PM  

Madison_Smiled: Go seek out the smaller festivals. You can hear plenty of good music without all the expense, aggravation, and trust fund babies.


That is what made Moe.Down so awesome.  Plus a number of the small acts I got to see there ended up becoming pretty big names like Dead Mau5 and Black Keys.  I was so happy for it to came back this year after a couple year hiatus only to be devastated that it maybe last with Rob Derhak's cancer announcement.
 
2017-08-09 03:16:06 PM  

Jake Havechek: It's 2030 already?  Wow, how time flies.


Pew Research Center defines Millennials as being born from 1981 onwards, with no chronological end point set yet. Demographers William Strauss and Neil Howe define Millennials as born between 1982-2004.
 
2017-08-09 03:16:48 PM  

Khellendros: lindalouwho: It was a joke, and I wasn't old enough to go to Woodstock :-p

Oh, I know.  But there are many that still are trying to recreate that nostalgia.  A dozen times a year at different locales.  And it's mostly a severe disappointment, and also a money loser.

rgGolf4: Worked in 94

Woodstock '94 was logistical clusterfark, and wasn't well-liked by most attendees.  This was then followed by '99, which was a violent disaster that included a host of sexual assaults and at least one death, along with massive dehydration and a dozen acts of arson.


I was there in 99. It didn't rain, and it still makes me chuckle that the mud everyone was playing in next to the main stage was due to run-off from the latrines.
 
2017-08-09 03:20:01 PM  

Jingle Strangle: Jake Havechek: It's 2030 already?  Wow, how time flies.

Pew Research Center defines Millennials as being born from 1981 onwards, with no chronological end point set yet. Demographers William Strauss and Neil Howe define Millennials as born between 1982-2004.


That doesn't make any sense.  How are they millennials if they weren't born at the turn of the century?
 
2017-08-09 03:20:30 PM  
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It was amazing. Thousands of people, no major problems at all. So much fun.
 
2017-08-09 03:21:12 PM  
 
2017-08-09 03:23:45 PM  

Jingle Strangle: Jake Havechek: It's 2030 already?  Wow, how time flies.

Pew Research Center defines Millennials as being born from 1981 onwards, with no chronological end point set yet. Demographers William Strauss and Neil Howe define Millennials as born between 1982-2004.


So a millennial could give birth to a millennial? Cool.
 
2017-08-09 03:32:50 PM  

Jake Havechek: Jingle Strangle: Jake Havechek: It's 2030 already?  Wow, how time flies.

Pew Research Center defines Millennials as being born from 1981 onwards, with no chronological end point set yet. Demographers William Strauss and Neil Howe define Millennials as born between 1982-2004.

That doesn't make any sense.  How are they millennials if they weren't born at the turn of the century?


Just copied and pasted that from Google.
 
2017-08-09 03:45:08 PM  

Jingle Strangle: Jake Havechek: Jingle Strangle: Jake Havechek: It's 2030 already?  Wow, how time flies.

Pew Research Center defines Millennials as being born from 1981 onwards, with no chronological end point set yet. Demographers William Strauss and Neil Howe define Millennials as born between 1982-2004.

That doesn't make any sense.  How are they millennials if they weren't born at the turn of the century?

Just copied and pasted that from Google.


Millenials were supposed to "come of age" at the Millennium, not be born at it. It's all stupid crap anyway though.
 
2017-08-09 03:50:36 PM  
$300 tickets, $15 bottle water, and too many people (can't stand them)...
 
2017-08-09 03:51:48 PM  
Basically they are all attempts to recreate and Monetize the Burning Man vibe, and it'll never work because the original empahsizes radical self-reliance, and particpation, not passive consumerism.   it's why, despite everything it been in the same place for 20 years and still going:
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2017-08-09 04:15:52 PM  

CygnusDarius: FFS, avocado doesn't go on toast.

It goes on tacos.

[srtaco.com.mx image 497x330]

/Gorram yuppies


It goes on everything, mon ami.
 
2017-08-09 04:22:14 PM  

I'm your passenger: Khellendros: lindalouwho: It was a joke, and I wasn't old enough to go to Woodstock :-p

Oh, I know.  But there are many that still are trying to recreate that nostalgia.  A dozen times a year at different locales.  And it's mostly a severe disappointment, and also a money loser.

rgGolf4: Worked in 94

Woodstock '94 was logistical clusterfark, and wasn't well-liked by most attendees.  This was then followed by '99, which was a violent disaster that included a host of sexual assaults and at least one death, along with massive dehydration and a dozen acts of arson.

I was there in 99. It didn't rain, and it still makes me chuckle that the mud everyone was playing in next to the main stage was due to run-off from the latrines.


Gross.
 
2017-08-09 04:23:43 PM  

flynn80: Madison_Smiled: Go seek out the smaller festivals. You can hear plenty of good music without all the expense, aggravation, and trust fund babies.

That is what made Moe.Down so awesome.  Plus a number of the small acts I got to see there ended up becoming pretty big names like Dead Mau5 and Black Keys.  I was so happy for it to came back this year after a couple year hiatus only to be devastated that it maybe last with Rob Derhak's cancer announcement.


I've been to several Bonnaroo's and a number of moe.down's.  moe.down was a lot more fun in every way.  They were supposed to come around here until the news dropped, too.  I can't really even deal with moe.down anymore (I have the old) so I was looking forward to it. Sucks.
 
2017-08-09 04:43:54 PM  
Governer's Ball in NYC this summer was great.
 
2017-08-09 04:48:10 PM  
I am 47 years old.

This year I went to:
Ultra Music Festival - VIP
Coachella - Artist / Guest
Electric Daisy Carnival - VIP
Lollapalooza - VIP

Because of the industry I am in these passes were all provided free from sponsors. The festivals are great if you are young. When you are my age, the air-conditioned bathrooms with the sinks are the only way I will attend. Lolla VIP includes free food and booze.

My style of music is "Jam Band"  I will end up seeing Phish 10 times this year and Dead and Company 9 times. Those tickets I pay for but it is worth it to me to spend my money on music I enjoy.
 
2017-08-09 04:49:34 PM  
too many people, too expensive.  difficult to get to and maybe 5 bands ive heard of over 3 days.

the middle men are constantly adding more to their cut.
 
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