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(Portland Mercury)   Even the most liberal of cities have turned fascist in 'Murica   ( portlandmercury.com) divider line
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2017-08-05 07:53:57 PM  
Portland cops have always been dicks. The DoJ had to step in and tell them to knock off the whole murdering people with mental illness thing.
 
2017-08-05 09:51:54 PM  
No.
 
2017-08-05 09:52:36 PM  
Portland Police Say It's Fine If Officers Punch Suspects They Think are Noncompliant in the Face

I've always been noncompliant in the face.
 
2017-08-05 09:53:09 PM  
Interesting, punching as a distraction. Have they tried doing impressions with a sock over their hand? I find that to be very distracting during a tense situation
 
2017-08-05 09:55:11 PM  
The citizens of a city/state/country are sometimes different than the people running things.
 
2017-08-05 09:57:42 PM  
There are worse things than getting punched in the face.
 
2017-08-05 09:59:52 PM  
What if I'm noncompliant in the pants?

/ nttawwt
 
2017-08-05 10:00:08 PM  
No hate like Fark cop  hate.

These heroes are just trying to  survive their shift and get home to their families. Besides, if you are doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about.

/right?
//right?
///right?
 
2017-08-05 10:00:46 PM  
Con:  Portland.
Pro:  Mutual combat law.
 
2017-08-05 10:01:45 PM  
Is a boot to the head allowed?
 
2017-08-05 10:04:49 PM  
Heck, punch is WAY better than getting shot in the back.
 
2017-08-05 10:05:27 PM  
It isn't the city, it is the police. It is always the police.
 
2017-08-05 10:07:27 PM  
Liberal leaning cities end up being found out as fascist ones in disguise

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2017-08-05 10:07:57 PM  

Tom_Slick: Is a boot to the head allowed?


 Nah, nah
 
2017-08-05 10:08:43 PM  
If it is a non-compliant suspect, then by all means punch, elbow, do what ya got to do. Better than a tazing, definitely better than a shooting.
Of course, I mean that the suspect has to actually be non-compliant. Not the cops saying, after the fact, that someone is being non-compliant, AKA the standard cop chestnut, "stop resisting."

Clearly, in the case of a tackled suspect where the SOP is to kneel on a suspect's neck and all subsequent cops kneeling on the back or shoulders, it wouldn't be unreasonable that the suspect couldn't pull his arm out if he wanted to.

The example given in the story, made me cringe reading it. I would guess when they got his left arm out it was scratched to hell from the pavement. Which would bolster his arguement that he couldn't.
 
2017-08-05 10:10:12 PM  
Subby is making the common mistake of confusing liberals and progressives.  According to Webster's progressive and fascism is synonymous.
 
2017-08-05 10:16:46 PM  

Sean VasDeferens: Subby is making the common mistake of confusing liberals and progressives.  According to Webster's progressive and fascism is synonymous.


I thought it was progressives and Communists.
 
2017-08-05 10:19:37 PM  
"Even?" You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
 
2017-08-05 10:19:39 PM  
I hope I never get into a position where I think punching somebody in the face is the best next step.

Ever again.
 
2017-08-05 10:20:18 PM  
Pfft want to get cops,and the suspects , compliant during arrests like this, just yell Spray!Spray! Spray! really loudly. It's a good reaction.
 
2017-08-05 10:24:45 PM  

Sean VasDeferens: Subby is making the common mistake of confusing liberals and progressives.  According to Webster's progressive and fascism is synonymous.


*boot to the head*
 
2017-08-05 10:35:13 PM  
the United state has been a fascist state since the hired the SS to spy on the Russians since harming the poors was always more important than fighting fascism
 
2017-08-05 10:37:29 PM  

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2017-08-05 10:45:15 PM  

Flappyhead: Sean VasDeferens: Subby is making the common mistake of confusing liberals and progressives.  According to Webster's progressive and fascism is synonymous.

I thought it was progressives and Communists.


Look at the policies of fascists and communists... they're not that far apart. About the only major difference is that fascists let people own their own factories... so long as they make what the government tells them to.
 
2017-08-05 10:47:38 PM  

Sean VasDeferens: Subby is making the common mistake of confusing liberals and progressives.  According to Webster's progressive and fascism is synonymous.


According to Webster's, a noun and an adjective are synonymous?
That's odd.
 
2017-08-05 10:47:43 PM  

fusillade762: Portland cops have always been dicks. The DoJ had to step in and tell them to knock off the whole murdering people with mental illness thing.


Yeah.....and then the cop haters show up in rural areas and well.....become dicks themselves to the locals. But what do I know?
 
2017-08-05 10:50:30 PM  
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Not in the face!
 
2017-08-05 10:52:41 PM  
Eh, I'm not exactly a delicate flower when it comes to the necessity of physical force in policing...but, man, there are so many better pain-compliance techniques when dealing with an already pinned individual than just wailing on their face. Don't think it's too much to ask that the cops learn one or two.
 
2017-08-05 10:53:03 PM  
Tom_Slick    Is a boot to the head allowed?

Do you know what it's like falling in the mud and getting kicked, in the head? With an iron boot? Of course you don't, no one does, that never happens. Sorry, Ted, it's a dumb question, skip that.

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2017-08-05 10:59:03 PM  
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2017-08-05 10:59:14 PM  
I don't understand why people cling to this notion of "rights"

Rights are for the Corporations and the Wealthy Elite -- not the scum who exist solely to pay taxes, be worked to death and be bleed to death by ever increasing prices, more and more fees, fines and novel new ways to be deprived of their life, liberty and property by the State

Hasn't that been made clear yet? Well, we will find new ways under Trump to make it CRYSTAL CLEAR.
 
2017-08-05 11:00:19 PM  
So nothing in that exchange as related by the officer himself in the report indicated continued resistance. Basically what this says is to keep fighting the police because not fighting the police ends the same way.

Resist. They are literally saying that it doesn't matter, you are always going to be treated as resisting anyway.

They don't see the ramifications in that kind of rhetoric? Because they just multiplied the dangers of being a cop there by a significant amount.
 
2017-08-05 11:01:04 PM  
"It's not fascism when WE do it" ?
 
2017-08-05 11:01:18 PM  
Cops are mercenaries for the state, there are no good apples im the barrel these are murderers and thieves.
 
2017-08-05 11:04:51 PM  
"punching-causing a short, hopefully non-enduring pain elsewhere to somebody-can cause them to focus their mental energies on that area," Lt. Morgan explained yesterday, "which will in turn lower the resistance to the arm they're trying to get out"

Seems like police work is what one goes for when one has little to no aptitude in the sciences. The rank and file were likely in awe of the massive intellect contained in that statement.
 
2017-08-05 11:07:29 PM  

BolloxReader: So nothing in that exchange as related by the officer himself in the report indicated continued resistance. Basically what this says is to keep fighting the police because not fighting the police ends the same way.

Resist. They are literally saying that it doesn't matter, you are always going to be treated as resisting anyway.


Well, you are. The officer attempted to punch you repeatedly in the face and you resisted by putting your hands in front of your face. You should've kept your hands at your side, taken the punches, spit out a tooth, and thanked him for serving you so well.

/how long before a jury decides that it's reasonable for someone to fear for their life in the presence of a cop, and that they are accordingly justified in preemptively using lethal self defense? After all, the same is true for cops themselves...
 
2017-08-05 11:14:58 PM  
"... there was a thousand pounds wroth of weight on my back."


no doubt
 
2017-08-05 11:16:00 PM  
Bad trolling, subby. Bad.
 
2017-08-05 11:16:18 PM  

albatros183: Cops are mercenaries for the state, there are no good apples im the barrel these are murderers and thieves.


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2017-08-05 11:19:10 PM  

fusillade762: Portland cops have always been dicks. The DoJ had to step in and tell them to knock off the whole murdering people with mental illness thing.


One of their Captains ( Mark Kruger) really admires the Waffen SS.

/ not technically illegal, but not someone I want on the Police Dept.
 
2017-08-05 11:21:29 PM  

Bumblefark: Eh, I'm not exactly a delicate flower when it comes to the necessity of physical force in policing...but, man, there are so many better pain-compliance techniques when dealing with an already pinned individual than just wailing on their face. Don't think it's too much to ask that the cops learn one or two.


Bring back choke holds!
 
2017-08-05 11:21:54 PM  
Let me tell you a story about a story involving two cops and a suspect that happened in Oakland, California.

An animal control officer goes to a man's house to impound his dog. The dog had bitten someone the day before and the dog was not current on its vaccinations. Animal Control Officer tells the man that the dog will be taken in for observation and testing for 1-2 weeks. Man refuses to surrender his dog so the Animal Control Officer calls for police backup.

Two Oakland cops show up and the man refuses to surrender the dog. The cops attempt to place the man under arrest, but he resists. They are on the man's front lawn wrestling, attempting to put him in cuffs when the man squirms out, and runs for the house with the two cops in pursuit.

Turns out the man had a shotgun propped up inside the house and he came out and shot one of the cops in his side, where the vest offers no protection. The second cop shot the man and killed him. The cop that got shot died. The cop that died was my stepbrother.

So yeah, a punch to the face is perfectly acceptable. So are hammer fists, elbows and forearms. You never know when a struggle with a suspect will turn into a life and death battle.
 
2017-08-05 11:24:38 PM  

mr_larry: Let me tell you a story about a story involving two cops and a suspect that happened in Oakland, California.

An animal control officer goes to a man's house to impound his dog. The dog had bitten someone the day before and the dog was not current on its vaccinations. Animal Control Officer tells the man that the dog will be taken in for observation and testing for 1-2 weeks. Man refuses to surrender his dog so the Animal Control Officer calls for police backup.

Two Oakland cops show up and the man refuses to surrender the dog. The cops attempt to place the man under arrest, but he resists. They are on the man's front lawn wrestling, attempting to put him in cuffs when the man squirms out, and runs for the house with the two cops in pursuit.

Turns out the man had a shotgun propped up inside the house and he came out and shot one of the cops in his side, where the vest offers no protection. The second cop shot the man and killed him. The cop that got shot died. The cop that died was my stepbrother.

So yeah, a punch to the face is perfectly acceptable. So are hammer fists, elbows and forearms. You never know when a struggle with a suspect will turn into a life and death battle.


That's I bother with side plates.
 
2017-08-05 11:32:21 PM  

mr_larry: Let me tell you a story about a story involving two cops and a suspect that happened in Oakland, California.

An animal control officer goes to a man's house to impound his dog. The dog had bitten someone the day before and the dog was not current on its vaccinations. Animal Control Officer tells the man that the dog will be taken in for observation and testing for 1-2 weeks. Man refuses to surrender his dog so the Animal Control Officer calls for police backup.

Two Oakland cops show up and the man refuses to surrender the dog. The cops attempt to place the man under arrest, but he resists. They are on the man's front lawn wrestling, attempting to put him in cuffs when the man squirms out, and runs for the house with the two cops in pursuit.

Turns out the man had a shotgun propped up inside the house and he came out and shot one of the cops in his side, where the vest offers no protection. The second cop shot the man and killed him. The cop that got shot died. The cop that died was my stepbrother.

So yeah, a punch to the face is perfectly acceptable. So are hammer fists, elbows and forearms. You never know when a struggle with a suspect will turn into a life and death battle.


Glad that story had a happy ending :)
 
2017-08-05 11:33:20 PM  
How about multiple punches to the face?

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2017-08-05 11:33:23 PM  
don't rob people, you might still get punched in the face but the odds go way down. they probably should kick him in the teeth to easily identify him the next time
 
2017-08-05 11:36:12 PM  

real_headhoncho: Sean VasDeferens: Subby is making the common mistake of confusing liberals and progressives.  According to Webster's progressive and fascism is synonymous.

*boot to the head*


And one for Jenny and the wimp!
 
2017-08-05 11:36:29 PM  

Phony_Soldier: Bumblefark: Eh, I'm not exactly a delicate flower when it comes to the necessity of physical force in policing...but, man, there are so many better pain-compliance techniques when dealing with an already pinned individual than just wailing on their face. Don't think it's too much to ask that the cops learn one or two.

Bring back choke holds!


Well, there are less-dangerous methods but, yeah -- compared to punching someone in the face, it'd be a step up.

Action movies have spoiled a couple generations or so on the idea that punching somebody in the face just makes the person on the receiving end a bit sleepy, and only for a moment.

In reality, a punch to the noggin is a pretty reliable way of causing somebody brain damage. A choke causes both less immediate and less long-term damage.

/source: been punched a fair amount, would rather be choked out.
//giggity...but, heywhereareyougoing
 
2017-08-05 11:47:22 PM  

That Guy...From That Show!: Liberal leaning cities end up being found out as fascist ones in disguise

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Does that mean conservative ones are actually communist?
Republicans = communists
 
2017-08-05 11:48:59 PM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: albatros183: Cops are mercenaries for the state, there are no good apples im the barrel these are murderers and thieves.

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I doubt that person wants more government.
Most conservatives do.
 
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