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(Salon)   Norman Lear, you've just been invited by the White House to accept a Kennedy Center honor? What's that? "No thanks?" Well, OK then   ( salon.com) divider line
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2017-08-04 05:10:14 PM  
Archie Bunker would've loved Trump.
 
2017-08-04 05:16:39 PM  

FlashHarry: Archie Bunker would've loved Trump.


Not by the end of the episode.

Although by next week he would have reverted to type.
 
2017-08-04 05:26:25 PM  
Trump will give the award to the greatest entertainer in history - himself - for the Apprentice. And next year too, for the Celebrity Apprentice.
 
2017-08-04 05:39:07 PM  

FlashHarry: Archie Bunker would've loved Trump.


As a character, yes.  But the character was designed as a symbol of the ridiculousness of Trump's outlook.
 
2017-08-04 06:05:25 PM  
Maybe he's hoping to live long enough to hang Trump's resignation letter next to Nixon's hanging above his toilet.
 
2017-08-04 06:14:55 PM  

Diogenes: FlashHarry: Archie Bunker would've loved Trump.

As a character, yes.  But the character was designed as a symbol of the ridiculousness of Trump's outlook.


Exactly. He was meant to look extreme - a John Bircher in an increasingly liberal world. Now he looks like 30-40 percent of Americans. What the fark went wrong?
 
2017-08-04 07:27:59 PM  
Talk about meatheads.
 
2017-08-04 07:58:12 PM  

FlashHarry: Diogenes: FlashHarry: Archie Bunker would've loved Trump.

As a character, yes.  But the character was designed as a symbol of the ridiculousness of Trump's outlook.

Exactly. He was meant to look extreme - a John Bircher in an increasingly liberal world. Now he looks like 30-40 percent of Americans. What the fark went wrong?


"The Democratic party once represented the working class. But over the last three decades the party has been taken over by Washington-based fundraisers, bundlers, analysts, and pollsters who have focused instead on raising campaign money from corporate and Wall Street executives and getting votes from upper middle-class households in 'swing' suburbs.

[...]

They stood by as corporations hammered trade unions, the backbone of the white working class - failing to reform labor laws to impose meaningful penalties on companies that violate them, or help workers form unions with simple up-or-down votes. Partly as a result, union membership sank from 22% of all workers when Bill Clinton was elected president to less than 12% today, and the working class lost bargaining leverage to get a share of the economy's gains.

Bill Clinton and Obama also allowed antitrust enforcement to ossify - with the result that large corporations have grown far larger, and major industries more concentrated. The unsurprising result of this combination - more trade, declining unionization and more industry concentration - has been to shift political and economic power to big corporations and the wealthy, and to shaft the working class. This created an opening for Donald Trump's authoritarian demagoguery, and his presidency."
 
2017-08-04 08:06:41 PM  

FlashHarry: Diogenes: FlashHarry: Archie Bunker would've loved Trump.

As a character, yes.  But the character was designed as a symbol of the ridiculousness of Trump's outlook.

Exactly. He was meant to look extreme - a John Bircher in an increasingly liberal world. Now he looks like 30-40 percent of Americans. What the fark went wrong?


Fox News.
 
2017-08-04 08:14:59 PM  

FlashHarry: Archie Bunker would've loved Trump.


Boy the workers Donald stiffed --
Businesses he drove off a cliff --
He goes bankrupt in a jiff --
Oh what a douche!
And you know the books he "wrote"
He can't name a single quote.
Mister we can use a real President,
Not this dope!
Going after the "deep state" --
Full of ignorance and hate --
Lying, golfing, eating cake --
OH... WHAT... A... DOOOOOOOUCHE!
 
2017-08-04 08:24:25 PM  

FlashHarry: Archie Bunker would've loved Trump.


I don't know... Archie was smarter than Trump.
 
2017-08-04 08:29:36 PM  

carrion_luggage: FlashHarry: Archie Bunker would've loved Trump.

Boy the workers Donald stiffed --
Businesses he drove off a cliff --
He goes bankrupt in a jiff --
Oh what a douche!
And you know the books he "wrote"
He can't name a single quote.
Mister we can use a real President,
Not this dope!
Going after the "deep state" --
Full of ignorance and hate --
Lying, golfing, eating cake --
OH... WHAT... A... DOOOOOOOUCHE!


I'll give it 18, with a bullet!
 
2017-08-04 08:29:50 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: FlashHarry: Diogenes: FlashHarry: Archie Bunker would've loved Trump.

As a character, yes.  But the character was designed as a symbol of the ridiculousness of Trump's outlook.

Exactly. He was meant to look extreme - a John Bircher in an increasingly liberal world. Now he looks like 30-40 percent of Americans. What the fark went wrong?

"The Democratic party once represented the working class. But over the last three decades the party has been taken over by Washington-based fundraisers, bundlers, analysts, and pollsters who have focused instead on raising campaign money from corporate and Wall Street executives and getting votes from upper middle-class households in 'swing' suburbs.

[...]

They stood by as corporations hammered trade unions, the backbone of the white working class - failing to reform labor laws to impose meaningful penalties on companies that violate them, or help workers form unions with simple up-or-down votes. Partly as a result, union membership sank from 22% of all workers when Bill Clinton was elected president to less than 12% today, and the working class lost bargaining leverage to get a share of the economy's gains.

Bill Clinton and Obama also allowed antitrust enforcement to ossify - with the result that large corporations have grown far larger, and major industries more concentrated. The unsurprising result of this combination - more trade, declining unionization and more industry concentration - has been to shift political and economic power to big corporations and the wealthy, and to shaft the working class. This created an opening for Donald Trump's authoritarian demagoguery, and his presidency."


The Democratic Party needs its "come to Jesus" moment of legitimate shame and contrition, and renounce the easy money and the corruption. harlee does not believe that the central players at the DNC, and the Dems in Congress, have any clue about this.
 
2017-08-04 08:32:30 PM  
He still gets the honor, just is skipping the reception because of Trump. Cool.
 
2017-08-04 08:35:31 PM  
Who's the farking genius who thought this was a good idea? Lear has always been one of the most liberal liberals in Hollywood. The only reason he would go anywhere near that dick would be to take a dump on his living room floor.
 
2017-08-04 08:36:43 PM  
trump only invited him because he thought he was the guy who makes those private jets
 
2017-08-04 08:39:11 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: Fox News.


And the Internet. My grandmother who thought fluoride was a communist conspiracy did not get daily affirmations of her lunacy.
 
2017-08-04 08:39:25 PM  

FlashHarry: Diogenes: FlashHarry: Archie Bunker would've loved Trump.

As a character, yes.  But the character was designed as a symbol of the ridiculousness of Trump's outlook.

Exactly. He was meant to look extreme - a John Bircher in an increasingly liberal world. Now he looks like 30-40 percent of Americans. What the fark went wrong?


The other thing is, Archie could and did evolve. You'll never shake that 30-40% of America from their stupidity. They enjoy it. They revel in it. They wallow in it like the pigs in shiat they are.
 
2017-08-04 08:40:45 PM  

jso2897: carrion_luggage: FlashHarry: Archie Bunker would've loved Trump.

Boy the workers Donald stiffed --
Businesses he drove off a cliff --
He goes bankrupt in a jiff --
Oh what a douche!
And you know the books he "wrote"
He can't name a single quote.
Mister we can use a real President,
Not this dope!
Going after the "deep state" --
Full of ignorance and hate --
Lying, golfing, eating cake --
OH... WHAT... A... DOOOOOOOUCHE!

I'll give it 18, with a bullet!


Well thank you so farking much for that there keyphrase, in a post with the word Trump in it. This thread just came to the attention of Carnivore, or whatever the hell they are calling it now. So everybody commenting in it will now be on a list somewhere.

It won't be an important list, of course. The analyst who looks at it for 10 seconds will correctly identify it as a "Oh, look, yet another masturbation site discussion forum of people who will probably (99.99999%) never be a threat. Yawn. But computer memory is cheap, and the list will be stored somewhere. Just in case. Interestingly, if you appear on a dozen or so lists like that, and someone, someday, does a cross-list analysis, your threat status might suddenly increase.
 
Ant
2017-08-04 08:41:44 PM  

carrion_luggage: And you know the books he "wrote"


I heard Edith's screechy singing in my head. Congratulations.
 
2017-08-04 08:48:03 PM  

Crewmannumber6: Who's the farking genius who thought this was a good idea? Lear has always been one of the most liberal liberals in Hollywood. The only reason he would go anywhere near that dick would be to take a dump on his living room floor.


Giving him this due honor has nothing to do with Trump in the end, really, Lear gets it whether he goes or not.
 
2017-08-04 08:48:07 PM  

Ant: carrion_luggage: And you know the books he "wrote"

I heard Edith's screechy singing in my head. Congratulations.


Alice the cook
 
2017-08-04 08:49:54 PM  

FlashHarry: Diogenes: FlashHarry: Archie Bunker would've loved Trump.

As a character, yes.  But the character was designed as a symbol of the ridiculousness of Trump's outlook.

Exactly. He was meant to look extreme - a John Bircher in an increasingly liberal world. Now he looks like 30-40 percent of Americans. What the fark went wrong?


Not enough people understood the idea of "parody" or "satire".

Also, FoxNews.
 
2017-08-04 09:01:20 PM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: trump only invited him because he thought he was the guy who makes those private jets


Trump doesn't have anything to do with the selection process for the award.
 
2017-08-04 09:13:26 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: FlashHarry: Diogenes: FlashHarry: Archie Bunker would've loved Trump.

As a character, yes.  But the character was designed as a symbol of the ridiculousness of Trump's outlook.

Exactly. He was meant to look extreme - a John Bircher in an increasingly liberal world. Now he looks like 30-40 percent of Americans. What the fark went wrong?

"The Democratic party once represented the working class. But over the last three decades the party has been taken over by Washington-based fundraisers, bundlers, analysts, and pollsters who have focused instead on raising campaign money from corporate and Wall Street executives and getting votes from upper middle-class households in 'swing' suburbs.

[...]


I has a sad.
 
2017-08-04 09:18:31 PM  
I was misled, by subby and TFA until its end.  Lear is attending the celebration and TV show at the Kennedy Center, which is all anybody gives a shart about.  He's just skipping some White House formality I didn't know existed.  So, okay.

/honestly never really liked his shows though
 
2017-08-04 09:20:22 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: FlashHarry: Diogenes: FlashHarry: Archie Bunker would've loved Trump.

As a character, yes.  But the character was designed as a symbol of the ridiculousness of Trump's outlook.

Exactly. He was meant to look extreme - a John Bircher in an increasingly liberal world. Now he looks like 30-40 percent of Americans. What the fark went wrong?

"The Democratic party once represented the working class. But over the last three decades the party has been taken over by Washington-based fundraisers, bundlers, analysts, and pollsters who have focused instead on raising campaign money from corporate and Wall Street executives and getting votes from upper middle-class households in 'swing' suburbs.

[...]

They stood by as corporations hammered trade unions, the backbone of the white working class - failing to reform labor laws to impose meaningful penalties on companies that violate them, or help workers form unions with simple up-or-down votes. Partly as a result, union membership sank from 22% of all workers when Bill Clinton was elected president to less than 12% today, and the working class lost bargaining leverage to get a share of the economy's gains.

Bill Clinton and Obama also allowed antitrust enforcement to ossify - with the result that large corporations have grown far larger, and major industries more concentrated. The unsurprising result of this combination - more trade, declining unionization and more industry concentration - has been to shift political and economic power to big corporations and the wealthy, and to shaft the working class. This created an opening for Donald Trump's authoritarian demagoguery, and his presidency."


Strange how that leaves out a blameless decade of Bush and pointless war mongering.
 
2017-08-04 09:25:54 PM  

Far Cough: I was misled, by subby and TFA until its end.  Lear is attending the celebration and TV show at the Kennedy Center, which is all anybody gives a shart about.  He's just skipping some White House formality I didn't know existed.  So, okay.

/honestly never really liked his shows though


Yeah skipping the luncheon or whatever it is, and showing up to mug for the camera does not a hero make.
 
2017-08-04 09:42:00 PM  

Tom_Slick: Far Cough: I was misled, by subby and TFA until its end.  Lear is attending the celebration and TV show at the Kennedy Center, which is all anybody gives a shart about.  He's just skipping some White House formality I didn't know existed.  So, okay.

/honestly never really liked his shows though

Yeah skipping the luncheon or whatever it is, and showing up to mug for the camera does not a hero make.


He's ignoring Trump, not the award.
Good on him.
 
2017-08-04 09:42:26 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: FlashHarry: Diogenes: FlashHarry: Archie Bunker would've loved Trump.

As a character, yes.  But the character was designed as a symbol of the ridiculousness of Trump's outlook.

Exactly. He was meant to look extreme - a John Bircher in an increasingly liberal world. Now he looks like 30-40 percent of Americans. What the fark went wrong?

"The Democratic party once represented the working class. But over the last three decades the party has been taken over by Washington-based fundraisers, bundlers, analysts, and pollsters who have focused instead on raising campaign money from corporate and Wall Street executives and getting votes from upper middle-class households in 'swing' suburbs.

[...]

They stood by as corporations hammered trade unions, the backbone of the white working class - failing to reform labor laws to impose meaningful penalties on companies that violate them, or help workers form unions with simple up-or-down votes. Partly as a result, union membership sank from 22% of all workers when Bill Clinton was elected president to less than 12% today, and the working class lost bargaining leverage to get a share of the economy's gains.

Bill Clinton and Obama also allowed antitrust enforcement to ossify - with the result that large corporations have grown far larger, and major industries more concentrated. The unsurprising result of this combination - more trade, declining unionization and more industry concentration - has been to shift political and economic power to big corporations and the wealthy, and to shaft the working class. This created an opening for Donald Trump's authoritarian demagoguery, and his presidency."


Wow, haven't seen a B B B BUT CLINTON in a good long while.


/yeah you're totes progressive.
 
2017-08-04 09:44:24 PM  

Far Cough: Bith Set Me Up: FlashHarry: Diogenes: FlashHarry: Archie Bunker would've loved Trump.

As a character, yes.  But the character was designed as a symbol of the ridiculousness of Trump's outlook.

Exactly. He was meant to look extreme - a John Bircher in an increasingly liberal world. Now he looks like 30-40 percent of Americans. What the fark went wrong?

"The Democratic party once represented the working class. But over the last three decades the party has been taken over by Washington-based fundraisers, bundlers, analysts, and pollsters who have focused instead on raising campaign money from corporate and Wall Street executives and getting votes from upper middle-class households in 'swing' suburbs.

[...]

They stood by as corporations hammered trade unions, the backbone of the white working class - failing to reform labor laws to impose meaningful penalties on companies that violate them, or help workers form unions with simple up-or-down votes. Partly as a result, union membership sank from 22% of all workers when Bill Clinton was elected president to less than 12% today, and the working class lost bargaining leverage to get a share of the economy's gains.

Bill Clinton and Obama also allowed antitrust enforcement to ossify - with the result that large corporations have grown far larger, and major industries more concentrated. The unsurprising result of this combination - more trade, declining unionization and more industry concentration - has been to shift political and economic power to big corporations and the wealthy, and to shaft the working class. This created an opening for Donald Trump's authoritarian demagoguery, and his presidency."

Strange how that leaves out a blameless decade of Bush and pointless war mongering.


Any thread about the Dems is guaranteed to have Bith show up and provide links of why they're the devil incarnate.  Kinda like another poster on this site who claims to be a life-long progressive but never misses an opportunity to scorn the Dems......it is indeed curious.
 
2017-08-04 09:59:55 PM  

lindalouwho: Tom_Slick: Far Cough: I was misled, by subby and TFA until its end.  Lear is attending the celebration and TV show at the Kennedy Center, which is all anybody gives a shart about.  He's just skipping some White House formality I didn't know existed.  So, okay.

/honestly never really liked his shows though

Yeah skipping the luncheon or whatever it is, and showing up to mug for the camera does not a hero make.

He's ignoring Trump, not the award.
Good on him.


No he's not ignoring Trump he's making a grand attention whore political statement. Ignoring Trump would be just not showing up to the White House. A true political statement would be not going to the awards because Trump will be there.

What he's doing is making a meaningless statement congruent with popular opinion for the purpose self promotion and adulation. Not heroic.
 
2017-08-04 10:19:09 PM  
Maude would have been proud.
 
2017-08-04 10:19:25 PM  

Tom_Slick: lindalouwho: Tom_Slick: Far Cough: I was misled, by subby and TFA until its end.  Lear is attending the celebration and TV show at the Kennedy Center, which is all anybody gives a shart about.  He's just skipping some White House formality I didn't know existed.  So, okay.

/honestly never really liked his shows though

Yeah skipping the luncheon or whatever it is, and showing up to mug for the camera does not a hero make.

He's ignoring Trump, not the award.
Good on him.

No he's not ignoring Trump he's making a grand attention whore political statement. Ignoring Trump would be just not showing up to the White House. A true political statement would be not going to the awards because Trump will be there.

What he's doing is making a meaningless statement congruent with popular opinion for the purpose self promotion and adulation. Not heroic.


There were no direct quotes in the article. If he wanted make a grand whore political statement, he would've called a press conference and teed off on him. He's 95. Dude is happy just to get out of bed in the morning. I can't imagine this show with Trump there. Seems like yesterday Obama was rocking out to Stairway. Now we'll see Trump grooving to Lionel Ritchie songs. Like a train wreck, I gotta see this.

I suspect this wasn't the first time an invitation to the white house was turned down and I doubt it will be the last. This presidency could set a record for turn downs.
 
2017-08-04 10:25:28 PM  

Tom_Slick: lindalouwho: Tom_Slick: Far Cough: I was misled, by subby and TFA until its end.  Lear is attending the celebration and TV show at the Kennedy Center, which is all anybody gives a shart about.  He's just skipping some White House formality I didn't know existed.  So, okay.

/honestly never really liked his shows though

Yeah skipping the luncheon or whatever it is, and showing up to mug for the camera does not a hero make.

He's ignoring Trump, not the award.
Good on him.

No he's not ignoring Trump he's making a grand attention whore political statement. Ignoring Trump would be just not showing up to the White House. A true political statement would be not going to the awards because Trump will be there.

What he's doing is making a meaningless statement congruent with popular opinion for the purpose self promotion and adulation. Not heroic.


Who gives a fark if Trump is at awards ceremony/gala? Trump didn't invite him to that, Trump has nothing to do with choosing the winners, either. Trump invited him to the White House, that's the tradition Lear wants no part of.
Completely separate events.
 
2017-08-04 10:27:18 PM  
Anyone who publicly rebukes Trump is a hero these days, for good reason.
 
2017-08-04 10:34:34 PM  

Tom_Slick: Ignoring Trump would be just not showing up to the White House. A true political statement would be not going to the awards because Trump will be there.


The awards are not Trump's affair. They happen to be in DC so the president typically goes to the show.

The White House event is like the invite for World Series and NBA championship teams.
 
2017-08-04 10:45:07 PM  

meatofmystery: Far Cough: Bith Set Me Up: FlashHarry: Diogenes: FlashHarry: Archie Bunker would've loved Trump.

As a character, yes.  But the character was designed as a symbol of the ridiculousness of Trump's outlook.

Exactly. He was meant to look extreme - a John Bircher in an increasingly liberal world. Now he looks like 30-40 percent of Americans. What the fark went wrong?

"The Democratic party once represented the working class. But over the last three decades the party has been taken over by Washington-based fundraisers, bundlers, analysts, and pollsters who have focused instead on raising campaign money from corporate and Wall Street executives and getting votes from upper middle-class households in 'swing' suburbs.

[...]

They stood by as corporations hammered trade unions, the backbone of the white working class - failing to reform labor laws to impose meaningful penalties on companies that violate them, or help workers form unions with simple up-or-down votes. Partly as a result, union membership sank from 22% of all workers when Bill Clinton was elected president to less than 12% today, and the working class lost bargaining leverage to get a share of the economy's gains.

Bill Clinton and Obama also allowed antitrust enforcement to ossify - with the result that large corporations have grown far larger, and major industries more concentrated. The unsurprising result of this combination - more trade, declining unionization and more industry concentration - has been to shift political and economic power to big corporations and the wealthy, and to shaft the working class. This created an opening for Donald Trump's authoritarian demagoguery, and his presidency."

Strange how that leaves out a blameless decade of Bush and pointless war mongering.

Any thread about the Dems is guaranteed to have Bith show up and provide links of why they're the devil incarnate.  Kinda like another poster on this site who claims to be a life-long progressive but never misses an opportunity ...


Ha, that's precious. I'm tired of people like you trying to excuse or even justify the Democratic Party's total spinelessness.

I was so outraged after the 2014 election. So many accomplishments they should've gone balls-to-the-wall in promoting (e.g. unemployed cut by half, Bin Laden dead, a fully-functioning ACA, troops home from both Afghanistan and Iraq), but did they? NO. They ran away from Obama and all the party's accomplishments, and allowed the neocons to spin the bullshiat narratives that they all were supposedly terrible for the country.

It's how Republicans took over 2/3rds of all the state governments and the Legislative branch long before Trump got into the 2016 race. Obama was the best thing to have happened to the Democratic Party in the past 50 years, and the party leaders took him for granted.

I'm tired of seeing Democrats more terrified by possibly losing than ACTUALLY losing. I'm tired of seeing the same oblivious/tone-deaf dipshiats behind those losing elections still running the show and actually sneering at other people over it.

I want Democrats to stop saying that they're America's mainstream liberal/progressive party and to start acting like it. I want Democrats to be BETTER, not gone.
 
2017-08-04 11:10:43 PM  
Inoffensive Comment
 
2017-08-05 12:10:31 AM  

FlashHarry: Archie Bunker would've loved Trump.


Archie Bunker would've...but what about Carroll O'Conner? Would he have gone along with it?
 
2017-08-05 09:33:17 AM  

Bith Set Me Up: FlashHarry: Diogenes: FlashHarry: Archie Bunker would've loved Trump.

As a character, yes.  But the character was designed as a symbol of the ridiculousness of Trump's outlook.

Exactly. He was meant to look extreme - a John Bircher in an increasingly liberal world. Now he looks like 30-40 percent of Americans. What the fark went wrong?

"The Democratic party once represented the working class. But over the last three decades the party has been taken over by Washington-based fundraisers, bundlers, analysts, and pollsters who have focused instead on raising campaign money from corporate and Wall Street executives and getting votes from upper middle-class households in 'swing' suburbs.

[...]

They stood by as corporations hammered trade unions, the backbone of the white working class - failing to reform labor laws to impose meaningful penalties on companies that violate them, or help workers form unions with simple up-or-down votes. Partly as a result, union membership sank from 22% of all workers when Bill Clinton was elected president to less than 12% today, and the working class lost bargaining leverage to get a share of the economy's gains.

Bill Clinton and Obama also allowed antitrust enforcement to ossify - with the result that large corporations have grown far larger, and major industries more concentrated. The unsurprising result of this combination - more trade, declining unionization and more industry concentration - has been to shift political and economic power to big corporations and the wealthy, and to shaft the working class. This created an opening for Donald Trump's authoritarian demagoguery, and his presidency."


If there is one thing I will fault Clinton with truly failing to stop, it is to stop the floodgate of bank mergers in the US. We went from over 2 dozen in the early 90's as major players, down to 5 controlling 95% of the individual market. That is unacceptable and has harmed us as a country more than you can imagine.
 
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