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(The Hill)   Trump's harshest critics think it's bad for America in the long run if we leak stuff that advertises to the world just how much of a dangerously clueless crybaby moron he really is   ( thehill.com) divider line
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2017-08-04 01:45:08 PM  
warning that the action could undermine the U.S. government and imperil national security.

Unlike Trump just telling other nations about intelligence assets...
 
2017-08-04 01:54:17 PM  
Even critics of President Trump seem to agree: The leakers have gone too far.

They sound concerned.
 
2017-08-04 01:54:35 PM  
Yep. It's not the fact that Trump is a worthless, narcissistic moron who has no idea what he's doing. It's the fact that the "leakers" have the audacity to let the American people know about it.
 
2017-08-04 01:54:41 PM  
Hi, David Frum. Always nice to hear your concerns.
 
2017-08-04 01:55:39 PM  

SpaceyCat: warning that the action could undermine the U.S. government and imperil national security.

Unlike Trump just telling other nations about intelligence assets...


Unlike Trump acting like an idiot on a daily basis.
 
2017-08-04 01:58:50 PM  
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2017-08-04 02:01:17 PM  
I'm pretty sure the voters need to know Trump is a lying crybaby moron, though.
 
2017-08-04 02:05:27 PM  
David Frum is a war criminal who is so passionate about marijuana being illegal that he operates an advocacy group to keep it illegal. So f*ck him in the ass.
 
2017-08-04 02:05:39 PM  
This does set a lousy seeming precedent.

On the other hand, neither the Australian Prime minister nor the Mexican president said a damn thing that would seem any cause for embarrassment on their part; and surely President Trump should be proud to see his expert artistry in deal-making on public display for all Americans to admire, right?
 
2017-08-04 02:16:32 PM  
Normally I would agree, but this sort of thing exhibits behavior that the American people absolutely need to know about to be properly informed.

I have to wonder whether this leak could have originated from the Australian and Mexican governments, because they certainly would have a record of those conversations as well.
 
2017-08-04 02:21:13 PM  
What does the law say? Are the leaks criminal? Are they a breach of employment agreements?
 
2017-08-04 02:27:46 PM  
Who cares what Kathy Griffin says?
 
2017-08-04 02:28:02 PM  
warning that the action could undermine the U.S. government and imperil national security.
Yeah, that ship has sailed.
 
2017-08-04 02:28:13 PM  
I stated in another thread that maybe the leakers feel it's their civic duty to leak information about an unhinged president who threatens the security of the United States........
But honestly, it's just entertaining at this point. All of Trump's shortcomings and idiocy are being laid bare at this point. A man who spent his whole life pretending to be a high-powered, powerful businessman is now being seen for who he really is. He's a weak, feeble-minded, racist old man who panders to the lowest common denominator in this country.
Poor man's idea of a rich man
Weak man's idea of a powerful businessman
blah blah blah
 
2017-08-04 02:28:53 PM  
Somebody barge into Bannon's office during his "Yoga Hour" to let him know please.
 
2017-08-04 02:29:10 PM  
The administration itself advertises that.
 
2017-08-04 02:29:47 PM  
M-O-O-N, that spells tax cuts!
 
2017-08-04 02:30:32 PM  
He has an uncensored Twitter feed and he's been overseas. It's way too late for damage control.
 
2017-08-04 02:31:15 PM  
LOL, no. If the president is an idiot, exposing his dumbfarkery is necessary.

Live by the leak, die by the leak, Joffrey, you moron.
 
2017-08-04 02:31:41 PM  
I'm always in favor of maximum transparency. I pay his salary, for one thing. He reports to us.
 
2017-08-04 02:32:37 PM  
That cat was out of the bag a long time ago.
 
2017-08-04 02:32:44 PM  
"Trumps Harshest Critics"

Cntl-F Clinton... no results.  Cntl-F Sanders... no results.
 
2017-08-04 02:32:55 PM  

nijika: Somebody barge into Bannon's office during his "Yoga Hour" to let him know please.


Is that where he faps to photoshopped pics of Hitler in yoga pants?
 
2017-08-04 02:33:33 PM  
No it's not.

I think it's important for the world to know a significant amount of Americans are ashamed of the Orange Dumbshiat, didn't vote for him, in no way shape or form support him.
 
2017-08-04 02:33:47 PM  
I am pretty sure everyone outside the US can read his Twitter rants and figure out for themselves how dangerously clueless a crybaby moron Trump is on their own.
 
2017-08-04 02:33:59 PM  
You're not "Trump's harshest critic" if you're defending him.

And the whole "even Bill Kristol and David Frum hate him" bullshiat should have been retired on November 8. We have no reason to ally with these worthless farks.
 
2017-08-04 02:34:15 PM  
It's that damn oath they make everyone take, about defending the Constitution against enemies, foreign and domestic.
 
2017-08-04 02:35:08 PM  
yeah, no
 
2017-08-04 02:36:49 PM  
When Trump whines about leaks, he's mostly whining about internal conversations and opinions that are neither criminal to disclose nor have any national security implications.

There are certainly things that should not be leaked, however. For example, news outlets withheld details of the senisitve information Trump leaked to the Russians regarding the risk of laptop bombs.
 
2017-08-04 02:38:12 PM  

Muta: I am pretty sure everyone outside the US can read his Twitter rants and figure out for themselves how dangerously clueless a crybaby moron Trump is on their own.


i dunno, their translation feature is pretty farking worthless
thenextweb.com
 
2017-08-04 02:38:13 PM  
Trump would like everyone in the country to sign his NDA.
 
2017-08-04 02:38:31 PM  

moothemagiccow: You're not "Trump's harshest critic" if you're defending him.

And the whole "even Bill Kristol and David Frum hate him" bullshiat should have been retired on November 8. We have no reason to ally with these worthless farks.


David Frum still has not served his sentence for being sooooooo proud of his "Axis of Evil" line.

All of a sudden when he and his ilk get outstripped by the very people they created he gets religion?

Screw him and his revisionist history.
 
2017-08-04 02:42:08 PM  
So get rid of him.
 
2017-08-04 02:43:31 PM  
Yeah, fark all that... they should be given medals.
 
2017-08-04 02:45:53 PM  
"If these calls can be leaked, any call can be leaked - and no leader dare say anything to the president of the United States that he or she would not wish to read in the news at home."

Any farking halfwit already knows that whatever they say to Trump could end up in the news. They also know that things they never say are more likely to wind up in the news, via trump's leaking anus of a mouth. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the Mexico and NZ are glad these transcripts were leaked, and perhaps they leaked them - at least Turnbull and Pena Nieto are vindicated of some of the more loathsome lies Trump tried to pass off about their conversations.

Will this keep Troumpling honest? No he doesn't understand the difference between reality and delusion. So keep it up, Mr. Transcript Leaker Guy. Maybe pass along a few Bush Jr. transcripts while you're at it; maybe Frum will have a stroke and die.
 
2017-08-04 02:46:59 PM  

SpaceyCat: warning that the action could undermine the U.S. government and imperil national security.

Unlike Trump just telling other nations about intelligence assets...


That doesn't make it bad long term, now does it?
 
2017-08-04 02:47:24 PM  

LL316: SpaceyCat: warning that the action could undermine the U.S. government and imperil national security.

Unlike Trump just telling other nations about intelligence assets...

That doesn't make it bad long term, now does it?


Excuse me...NOT bad.
 
2017-08-04 02:48:53 PM  

kronicfeld: David Frum is a war criminal


i1.kym-cdn.com
 
2017-08-04 02:50:01 PM  
This isn't like propping up FDR for a speech, so I don't care if he looks like a buffoon.
 
2017-08-04 02:53:07 PM  
while other criticisms may have already left this particular camel with irreparably damaged vertebrae, i just want to add that the supposedly deep 'an end to evil,' co-authored by frum and perle, didn't even have an index, bibliography or anything much else

/never forget
 
2017-08-04 02:53:29 PM  
There is NOTHING wrong with leaking unclassified information.  it happens all the time and is the reason why news orginizations exist to this day because they rely on people "leaking" and giving them information off the record.

trying to lump all leaks into a single catagory is going to lead to Totalitarianism
 
2017-08-04 02:57:18 PM  
They already know.
There are no surprises here.
 
2017-08-04 03:01:09 PM  
I'm wearing my tinfoil hat today...it's mighty convenient that something leaks that so many would see as crossing a line...the day before a planned "we're goona get us sum ee-legal leakers" presser from ol' Sesh.

/mighty convenient
 
2017-08-04 03:04:41 PM  
Well the cat is out of the bag now. All we can so is play on
 
2017-08-04 03:05:24 PM  
While I generally agree that we don't want to leak transcripts of presidential calls with foreign leaders, I think Trump is the rather unfortunate exception.  We have to do everything possible to get him out of office before he does more damage.  If that means leaking these transcripts so everyone can see how pathetically unequipped Trump is to handle this job, then so be it.

Put another way, a Trump presidency is far more dangerous than the damage that would be done to foreign relations by leaking the transcripts.
 
2017-08-04 03:06:39 PM  

Trivia Jockey: While I generally agree that we don't want to leak transcripts of presidential calls with foreign leaders, I think Trump is the rather unfortunate exception.  We have to do everything possible to get him out of office before he does more damage.  If that means leaking these transcripts so everyone can see how pathetically unequipped Trump is to handle this job, then so be it.

Put another way, a Trump presidency is far more dangerous than the damage that would be done to foreign relations by leaking the transcripts.


This is basically my take
 
2017-08-04 03:07:08 PM  

SpaceyCat: warning that the action could undermine the U.S. government and imperil national security.

Unlike Trump just telling other nations about intelligence assets...


And putting compromised people in charge of high level security/law enforcement departments.
 
2017-08-04 03:07:31 PM  
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that the recent leaks really haven't told world leaders anything they didn't already know about Trump. He practically radiates incompetence and egotism.
 
2017-08-04 03:09:42 PM  
I'm the libbiest lib that's ever libbed a lib and makes me feel dirty to agree with Frum , but I think that these leaks were over the line.

The President and the other leaders he speaks with have a right to keep those conversations private (or at least within government). Leaking these sets a bad precedent.

Some day (if we survive this) we'll have an adult in The White House again. They need to be able to work without these sorts of conversations becoming public.
 
2017-08-04 03:11:03 PM  
Clue phone ringing.....it's no secret
 
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