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(CNN)   A pastor, a state trooper and a convicted sex offender walk into a police station...because they were some of the more than 1,000 people arrested this month as part of a nationwide sex-trafficking sting   ( cnn.com) divider line
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2017-08-04 03:47:53 PM  
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A pastor? Can't be true. Godly men don't do this stuff. They pray for presidents after all.
 
2017-08-04 05:58:09 PM  
National Johns Suppression Initiative

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2017-08-04 07:07:21 PM  
Subby said "sex offender" at least twice.
 
2017-08-04 10:58:40 PM  
And not a surprise was heard from most people.
 
2017-08-04 11:01:38 PM  
Prostitution sting. But I guess sex trafficking sounds a lot scarier.
 
2017-08-04 11:02:27 PM  
*avoiding a political statement*
 
2017-08-04 11:12:18 PM  

abhorrent1: Prostitution sting. But I guess sex trafficking sounds a lot scarier.


A bit of both I'd guess.  They seem to be charging several with "trafficking" which implies they were shipping people in.  They also say they rescued 100 people which again, implies that these weren't willing participents in prostitution.
 
2017-08-04 11:13:37 PM  

abhorrent1: Prostitution sting. But I guess sex trafficking sounds a lot scarier.


You realize that a lot of prostitutes are forced into and even bought or sold. I am glad they refer to it as sex trafficking - they rescue the prostitutes instead of arresting them.
 
2017-08-04 11:17:01 PM  
How did the state trooper get charged?  I learned on Fark that LEOs never hold other LEOs accountable for their crimes.
 
2017-08-04 11:18:30 PM  

killwhitey: How did the state trooper get charged?  I learned on Fark that LEOs never hold other LEOs accountable for their crimes.


Probably worked for a different department.
 
2017-08-04 11:21:53 PM  

abhorrent1: Prostitution sting. But I guess sex trafficking sounds a lot scarier.


This.

Sex trafficking is largely a myth in this country.  It's virtually nonexistent.

If they were actually going after people who were REALLY involved in the few incidents of it that really do happen, then I'd be all for it.

But that is NOT what's going on here.
 
2017-08-04 11:23:49 PM  

zeroman987: abhorrent1: Prostitution sting. But I guess sex trafficking sounds a lot scarier.

You realize that a lot of prostitutes are forced into and even bought or sold. I am glad they refer to it as sex trafficking - they rescue the prostitutes instead of arresting them.


You realize that that's completely bullshiat.  It's referred to as "sex trafficking" because that's sexier, it's not in any way tied to reality.
 
2017-08-04 11:26:28 PM  
FTFA: In Arizona, officials said more than 400 people were discouraged from buying sex when they received texts, calls or Web browser redirects informing them about the impact of the illegal sex industry.

This part amuses me. What, AZ, did you just randomly harass 400+ people with social awareness spam and call it a win?
 
2017-08-04 11:30:07 PM  
Prostitution stings are the new DUI checkpoints, a new and unique way for law enforcement to ramp up the panic and build up revenue through fines, and classes and programs that do little beyond swelling their coffers.
 
2017-08-04 11:37:02 PM  
The sex trafficking industry is very real--as a subset of human trafficking overall. It overlaps with prostitution, but is not co-terminous with it. I'm glad to see people prosecuted for human trafficking--- and as you see from TFA there are connections with child molestation as well. Hopefully everyone can agree that people, especially kids, should not be unwillingly bought, rented or sold for sex, or other purposes.
 
2017-08-04 11:37:18 PM  
Stop me if you've heard this one before:

A pederast, a KKK member, and a pimp walk into an auditorium and the crowd screams Welcome Home!:

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2017-08-04 11:39:16 PM  

zeroman987: abhorrent1: Prostitution sting. But I guess sex trafficking sounds a lot scarier.

You realize that a lot of prostitutes are forced into and even bought or sold. I am glad they refer to it as sex trafficking - they rescue the prostitutes instead of arresting them.


They actually arrest the prostitutes as well and deport them if they are undocumented.  Sometimes they charge the prostitute with trafficking themselves.
 
2017-08-04 11:39:16 PM  
I like how it's gone from "Johns arrested for picking up hookers" and turned into "Human Sex Trafficking Charges."

Because right as the world starts to come around to the fact that it's probably no big deal if two consenting adults exchange money to bone and prostitution goes off the streets and onto the internet, the only thing to do is add histrionics and turn the whole thing into "human sex trafficking".
 
2017-08-04 11:39:21 PM  

DarkVader: abhorrent1: Prostitution sting. But I guess sex trafficking sounds a lot scarier.

This.

Sex trafficking is largely a myth in this country.  It's virtually nonexistent.


Well I don't know what your basis is for saying that.  There seems to be a lot of substantiated accounts of women brought in from East Asia in particular and they have to work off a debt.

However, I agree that busting Johns and hookers is the lowest end of the operation and is a waste of taxpayer funds.  If there is sex trafficking going on then that's the aspect of prostitution that needs to be shutdown and the cops need to be going after the gangs and pimps who run these operations.  But they won't because America has an issue with sex.
 
2017-08-04 11:39:33 PM  
You know who doesn't engage in human traficking? McDonald's.

You know why? It's more profitable for them to run a legal business than risk it for black market money.

If you legalized prostitution, and gave oversight to the industry like every other industry, the criminal syndicates wound have to back off.
 
2017-08-04 11:40:11 PM  

Somacandra: The sex trafficking industry is very real--as a subset of human trafficking overall. It overlaps with prostitution, but is not co-terminous with it. I'm glad to see people prosecuted for human trafficking--- and as you see from TFA there are connections with child molestation as well. Hopefully everyone can agree that people, especially kids, should not be unwillingly bought, rented or sold for sex, or other purposes.


So willing kids are ok??

Do you need a seat over there --->
 
2017-08-04 11:41:44 PM  

dr-shotgun: I like how it's gone from "Johns arrested for picking up hookers" and turned into "Human Sex Trafficking Charges."

Because right as the world starts to come around to the fact that it's probably no big deal if two consenting adults exchange money to bone and prostitution goes off the streets and onto the internet, the only thing to do is add histrionics and turn the whole thing into "human sex trafficking".


The Federal government provides funding for these human trafficking stings.

Note the stories that appear before each Super Bowl about thousands of women being trafficked in to supply the NFL fans with poon tang.
 
2017-08-04 11:42:03 PM  

dr-shotgun: I like how it's gone from "Johns arrested for picking up hookers" and turned into "Human Sex Trafficking Charges."

Because right as the world starts to come around to the fact that it's probably no big deal if two consenting adults exchange money to bone and prostitution goes off the streets and onto the internet, the only thing to do is add histrionics and turn the whole thing into "human sex trafficking".


1000+ people arrested as Johns
83 women and minors rescued
Only 15 people charged with trafficking

I don't think the traficking charge was just randomly leveled.
 
2017-08-04 11:42:32 PM  

DarkVader: zeroman987: abhorrent1: Prostitution sting. But I guess sex trafficking sounds a lot scarier.

You realize that a lot of prostitutes are forced into and even bought or sold. I am glad they refer to it as sex trafficking - they rescue the prostitutes instead of arresting them.

You realize that that's completely bullshiat.  It's referred to as "sex trafficking" because that's sexier, it's not in any way tied to reality.


And you realize that some women, and some men are forced into prostitution, right?  Mostly illegals who are brought here thinking that they are going to get a legit job but nope, prostitution.
 
2017-08-04 11:45:05 PM  
Wow, there's too much baseless denial in here.
Some folks should use their Google before commenting.
 
2017-08-04 11:51:19 PM  

Phelon Hardtimes: DarkVader: zeroman987: abhorrent1: Prostitution sting. But I guess sex trafficking sounds a lot scarier.

You realize that a lot of prostitutes are forced into and even bought or sold. I am glad they refer to it as sex trafficking - they rescue the prostitutes instead of arresting them.

You realize that that's completely bullshiat.  It's referred to as "sex trafficking" because that's sexier, it's not in any way tied to reality.

And you realize that some women, and some men are forced into prostitution, right?  Mostly illegals who are brought here thinking that they are going to get a legit job but nope, prostitution.


And you realize that what you're describing is incredibly rare, right?

I'm not saying it doesn't happen, it does.  And it's truly awful, and needs to be stopped.

But it's not an everyday occurrence.  Or an every week occurrence.  Or even an every month occurrence.  Yes, it happens.  But the vast, vast, vast majority of people involved in sex work are there willingly, knowingly, and intentionally.
 
2017-08-04 11:53:38 PM  
Well, that's a start. Of course, there's the other trade, like the President engaged in, where you isolate the immigrant bride from any support system, but that's totes legit.
 
2017-08-04 11:54:51 PM  

lindalouwho: Wow, there's too much baseless denial in here.
Some folks should use their Google before commenting.


I'd think that after the last election you'd realize that most people don't let facts get in the way of their opinions.
 
2017-08-04 11:55:07 PM  

jtown: killwhitey: How did the state trooper get charged?  I learned on Fark that LEOs never hold other LEOs accountable for their crimes.

Probably worked for a different department.


QFT.

Local gangs don't respect the clout of other gangs from different localities.
 
2017-08-04 11:57:11 PM  

killwhitey: How did the state trooper get charged?  I learned on Fark that LEOs never hold other LEOs accountable for their crimes.


And he won't be... The case will be adjudicated down to a violation of the law, or possibly dismissed.
 
2017-08-04 11:57:38 PM  

scanman61: lindalouwho: Wow, there's too much baseless denial in here.
Some folks should use their Google before commenting.

I'd think that after the last election you'd realize that most people don't let facts get in the way of their opinions.


. . .

I can't argue with that.
 
2017-08-04 11:57:39 PM  

DarkVader: Phelon Hardtimes: DarkVader: zeroman987: abhorrent1: Prostitution sting. But I guess sex trafficking sounds a lot scarier.

You realize that a lot of prostitutes are forced into and even bought or sold. I am glad they refer to it as sex trafficking - they rescue the prostitutes instead of arresting them.

You realize that that's completely bullshiat.  It's referred to as "sex trafficking" because that's sexier, it's not in any way tied to reality.

And you realize that some women, and some men are forced into prostitution, right?  Mostly illegals who are brought here thinking that they are going to get a legit job but nope, prostitution.

And you realize that what you're describing is incredibly rare, right?

I'm not saying it doesn't happen, it does.  And it's truly awful, and needs to be stopped.

But it's not an everyday occurrence.  Or an every week occurrence.  Or even an every month occurrence.  Yes, it happens.  But the vast, vast, vast majority of people involved in sex work are there willingly, knowingly, and intentionally.


It sounds like you know the sex trade industry a lot better than I do.

I'm just a lowly truck driver.  Every truck driver is taught to look out for human trafficking.  Every truck driver is no stranger to hookers advances.
 
2017-08-04 11:58:05 PM  

abhorrent1: Prostitution sting. But I guess sex trafficking sounds a lot scarier.


I always called it "dating."
 
2017-08-04 11:58:42 PM  

zeroman987: abhorrent1: Prostitution sting. But I guess sex trafficking sounds a lot scarier.

You realize that a lot of prostitutes are forced into and even bought or sold. I am glad they refer to it as sex trafficking - they rescue the prostitutes instead of arresting them.


I fully expect sessions to rescue them all the way to ICE so they can deported and then executed at home.
 
2017-08-04 11:59:53 PM  

DarkVader: Phelon Hardtimes: DarkVader: zeroman987: abhorrent1: Prostitution sting. But I guess sex trafficking sounds a lot scarier.

You realize that a lot of prostitutes are forced into and even bought or sold. I am glad they refer to it as sex trafficking - they rescue the prostitutes instead of arresting them.

You realize that that's completely bullshiat.  It's referred to as "sex trafficking" because that's sexier, it's not in any way tied to reality.

And you realize that some women, and some men are forced into prostitution, right?  Mostly illegals who are brought here thinking that they are going to get a legit job but nope, prostitution.

And you realize that what you're describing is incredibly rare, right?

I'm not saying it doesn't happen, it does.  And it's truly awful, and needs to be stopped.

But it's not an everyday occurrence.  Or an every week occurrence.  Or even an every month occurrence.  Yes, it happens.  But the vast, vast, vast majority of people involved in sex work are there willingly, knowingly, and intentionally.


Got a citation for that?  You've made quite a few assertions in this thread.
 
2017-08-05 12:01:22 AM  

abhorrent1: Prostitution sting. But I guess sex trafficking sounds a lot scarier.


Most prostitution IS sex trafficking.
 
2017-08-05 12:03:10 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: Got a citation for that?  You've made quite a few assertions in this thread.


I do, but it may not fall in line with Vader's assertions

http://www.upi.com/Report-Human-trafficking-in-US-rose-357-percent-in​-​one-year/5571486328579/
 
2017-08-05 12:04:52 AM  

Mega Steve: HMS_Blinkin: Got a citation for that?  You've made quite a few assertions in this thread.

I do, but it may not fall in line with Vader's assertions

http://www.upi.com/Report-Human-trafficking-in-US-rose-357-percent-in-​one-year/5571486328579/


That URL sure makes it seem a lot worse than it is.
 
BHK
2017-08-05 12:05:21 AM  
Not sure why the spiffy tag, unless the submitter is a sex-hating neo-Puritan who considers it a sin to trade sex for money.
 
2017-08-05 12:07:32 AM  
But no pizza parlor owners?
 
2017-08-05 12:08:01 AM  

bibli0phile: abhorrent1: Prostitution sting. But I guess sex trafficking sounds a lot scarier.

Most prostitution IS sex trafficking.


Uh huh.

Also, injecting just one marjuana can kill you.
 
2017-08-05 12:10:45 AM  

DarkVader: abhorrent1: Prostitution sting. But I guess sex trafficking sounds a lot scarier.

This.

Sex trafficking is largely a myth in this country.  It's virtually nonexistent.

If they were actually going after people who were REALLY involved in the few incidents of it that really do happen, then I'd be all for it.

But that is NOT what's going on here.

Yes, it is.

Look, if you think sex trafficking is little women in a shipping container coming from a foreign country, then you are right.

But, what you may not realize is that the UN Human Rights Council defined sex trafficking as taking advantage of vulnerable people and putting them into the sex trade. You know which country opposed that definition for a while? ... think... think... it was the US.

Our diplomats thought sex trafficking was something people did in Southeast Asia, or those dirty Armenians who steal girls in France and sell them to Arabs. You do as well.

You are wrong, our government was wrong, and our society was wrong. Finally, when the US gained enlightenment, we realized like any civilized country, that any person, who is vulnerable and abused by others, and is moved/sold for sexual gratification, IS sex trafficking.

It is a serious problem in the US, and yes, there are tens of thousands, possible hundreds of thousands, of sex slaves in the US now. Would some of these women/men/boys/girls define themselves as slaves if asked? Probably not. But, hundreds of them, thousands of them, once they are released from bondage and given any sense of support, do see their past life as a form of bondage.

With all respect, you are wrong, and millions of young boys and girls are pushed into this in the US. The first thing you can do, and all others, is admit it. Then we can fix it.
 
2017-08-05 12:12:10 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: DarkVader: Phelon Hardtimes: DarkVader: zeroman987: abhorrent1: Prostitution sting. But I guess sex trafficking sounds a lot scarier.

You realize that a lot of prostitutes are forced into and even bought or sold. I am glad they refer to it as sex trafficking - they rescue the prostitutes instead of arresting them.

You realize that that's completely bullshiat.  It's referred to as "sex trafficking" because that's sexier, it's not in any way tied to reality.

And you realize that some women, and some men are forced into prostitution, right?  Mostly illegals who are brought here thinking that they are going to get a legit job but nope, prostitution.

And you realize that what you're describing is incredibly rare, right?

I'm not saying it doesn't happen, it does.  And it's truly awful, and needs to be stopped.

But it's not an everyday occurrence.  Or an every week occurrence.  Or even an every month occurrence.  Yes, it happens.  But the vast, vast, vast majority of people involved in sex work are there willingly, knowingly, and intentionally.

Got a citation for that?  You've made quite a few assertions in this thread.



You can peruse the articles on http://www.new.swopusa.org/ to get a different perspective.

You should also note that the article link by subby has absolutely no details, like most of the scared articles.
 
2017-08-05 12:13:59 AM  

zeroman987: abhorrent1: Prostitution sting. But I guess sex trafficking sounds a lot scarier.

You realize that a lot of prostitutes are forced into and even bought or sold.


No they're not.
 
2017-08-05 12:15:19 AM  

doglover: bibli0phile: abhorrent1: Prostitution sting. But I guess sex trafficking sounds a lot scarier.

Most prostitution IS sex trafficking.

Uh huh.

Also, injecting just one marjuana can kill you.


Maybe you do not understand me, I have read your other posts in this thread and you and I seem to agree on some things. I will qualify my statement.

Most prostitution, that is not exchanged in a fair, open and legal market wherein each party has the protection of law, is sex trafficking.
 
2017-08-05 12:17:41 AM  

bibli0phile: DarkVader: abhorrent1: Prostitution sting. But I guess sex trafficking sounds a lot scarier.

This.

Sex trafficking is largely a myth in this country.  It's virtually nonexistent.

If they were actually going after people who were REALLY involved in the few incidents of it that really do happen, then I'd be all for it.

But that is NOT what's going on here.
Yes, it is.

Look, if you think sex trafficking is little women in a shipping container coming from a foreign country, then you are right.

But, what you may not realize is that the UN Human Rights Council defined sex trafficking as taking advantage of vulnerable people and putting them into the sex trade. You know which country opposed that definition for a while? ... think... think... it was the US.

Our diplomats thought sex trafficking was something people did in Southeast Asia, or those dirty Armenians who steal girls in France and sell them to Arabs. You do as well.

You are wrong, our government was wrong, and our society was wrong. Finally, when the US gained enlightenment, we realized like any civilized country, that any person, who is vulnerable and abused by others, and is moved/sold for sexual gratification, IS sex trafficking.

It is a serious problem in the US, and yes, there are tens of thousands, possible hundreds of thousands, of sex slaves in the US now. Would some of these women/men/boys/girls define themselves as slaves if asked? Probably not. But, hundreds of them, thousands of them, once they are released from bondage and given any sense of support, do see their past life as a form of bondage.

With all respect, you are wrong, and millions of young boys and girls are pushed into this in the US. The first thing you can do, and all others, is admit it. Then we can fix it.


Millions?  Really - you think there are a million juveniles being kept as sex slaves or prostitutes?

If that were true a sizable number of men in our country would be have to be patronizing them weekly/monthly. About 40 million men out of a population of 150 million men, or over 25%. Does that sound anyway reasonable?
 
2017-08-05 12:17:52 AM  

comrade: zeroman987: abhorrent1: Prostitution sting. But I guess sex trafficking sounds a lot scarier.

You realize that a lot of prostitutes are forced into and even bought or sold.

No they're not.


You deny the existence of pimps?
 
2017-08-05 12:19:09 AM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: bibli0phile: DarkVader: abhorrent1: Prostitution sting. But I guess sex trafficking sounds a lot scarier.

This.

Sex trafficking is largely a myth in this country.  It's virtually nonexistent.

If they were actually going after people who were REALLY involved in the few incidents of it that really do happen, then I'd be all for it.

But that is NOT what's going on here.
Yes, it is.

Look, if you think sex trafficking is little women in a shipping container coming from a foreign country, then you are right.

But, what you may not realize is that the UN Human Rights Council defined sex trafficking as taking advantage of vulnerable people and putting them into the sex trade. You know which country opposed that definition for a while? ... think... think... it was the US.

Our diplomats thought sex trafficking was something people did in Southeast Asia, or those dirty Armenians who steal girls in France and sell them to Arabs. You do as well.

You are wrong, our government was wrong, and our society was wrong. Finally, when the US gained enlightenment, we realized like any civilized country, that any person, who is vulnerable and abused by others, and is moved/sold for sexual gratification, IS sex trafficking.

It is a serious problem in the US, and yes, there are tens of thousands, possible hundreds of thousands, of sex slaves in the US now. Would some of these women/men/boys/girls define themselves as slaves if asked? Probably not. But, hundreds of them, thousands of them, once they are released from bondage and given any sense of support, do see their past life as a form of bondage.

With all respect, you are wrong, and millions of young boys and girls are pushed into this in the US. The first thing you can do, and all others, is admit it. Then we can fix it.

Millions?  Really - you think there are a million juveniles being kept as sex slaves or prostitutes?

If that were true a sizable number of men in our country would be have to be patronizing them weekly/monthly ...


Millions as a cumulative term over time. I would say that over a 20-30 year period, yes millions have been subjected to this.
 
2017-08-05 12:22:08 AM  

bibli0phile: abhorrent1: Prostitution sting. But I guess sex trafficking sounds a lot scarier.

Most prostitution IS sex trafficking.


no it's not. Most prostitution is a woman going into it freely of her own will.

Not every woman has the opportunity to make it. Even the smartest women are born to poor circumstances. Here in Europe the prostitutes speak multiple languages, are smarter than you, but because they were born in some crappy village in Romania they didn't go to high school or college and so their only way to make a living is slopping pigs or prostitution (slopping human pigs).

You have no right to take that way away from them.
 
2017-08-05 12:22:34 AM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: bibli0phile: DarkVader: abhorrent1: Prostitution sting. But I guess sex trafficking sounds a lot scarier.

This.

Sex trafficking is largely a myth in this country.  It's virtually nonexistent.

If they were actually going after people who were REALLY involved in the few incidents of it that really do happen, then I'd be all for it.

But that is NOT what's going on here.
Yes, it is.

Look, if you think sex trafficking is little women in a shipping container coming from a foreign country, then you are right.

But, what you may not realize is that the UN Human Rights Council defined sex trafficking as taking advantage of vulnerable people and putting them into the sex trade. You know which country opposed that definition for a while? ... think... think... it was the US.

Our diplomats thought sex trafficking was something people did in Southeast Asia, or those dirty Armenians who steal girls in France and sell them to Arabs. You do as well.

You are wrong, our government was wrong, and our society was wrong. Finally, when the US gained enlightenment, we realized like any civilized country, that any person, who is vulnerable and abused by others, and is moved/sold for sexual gratification, IS sex trafficking.

It is a serious problem in the US, and yes, there are tens of thousands, possible hundreds of thousands, of sex slaves in the US now. Would some of these women/men/boys/girls define themselves as slaves if asked? Probably not. But, hundreds of them, thousands of them, once they are released from bondage and given any sense of support, do see their past life as a form of bondage.

With all respect, you are wrong, and millions of young boys and girls are pushed into this in the US. The first thing you can do, and all others, is admit it. Then we can fix it.

Millions?  Really - you think there are a million juveniles being kept as sex slaves or prostitutes?

If that were true a sizable number of men in our country would be have to be patronizing them weekly/monthly ...


http://www.businessinsider.com/there-are-42-million-prostitutes-in-th​e​-world-and-heres-where-they-live-2012-1?IR=T

One million prostitutes in the US alone according to one source. Take that over time, wherein the average career of a prostitute is relatively short.

This is a huge problem. Not prostitution, exploitation.
 
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