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(BBC-US)   For the first time in it's 381 year history, by .8%, "non-whites" will make up the majority of the incoming freshman class at Harvard University. When, oh when, will Attorney General Sessions deliver my people from this cruel yoke of adversity?   ( bbc.com) divider line
    More: Interesting, justice department, United States, civil rights division, affirmative action, Jim Crow, affirmative action admissions, African Americans, Asian Americans  
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2017-08-03 04:02:23 PM  
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2017-08-03 04:31:37 PM  
It's getting so bad that even legacy status doesn't get you a guaranteed spot.
 
2017-08-03 05:06:46 PM  
I want to take this headline behind the middle school and get it pregnant.
 
2017-08-03 07:21:24 PM  
Could this possibly be because of affirmative action admission policies, or did the minority applicants have higher academic achievements?
 
2017-08-03 07:21:54 PM  
Remember the first rule of admissions though..."there's always room for one more full pay."
 
2017-08-03 07:23:46 PM  

fernt: Could this possibly be because of affirmative action admission policies, or did the minority applicants have higher academic achievements?


Why not both?
 
2017-08-03 07:23:53 PM  
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2017-08-03 07:24:43 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: [img.fark.net image 603x392]


Gutter is a tool!
 
2017-08-03 07:27:07 PM  
Subby, you know, you'll never get into Harvard if you don't learn when to use an apostrophe.
 
2017-08-03 07:27:12 PM  
Without my lily white skin to open doors for me, how will I survive?
On skill and merit?  Like some plebeian?
 
2017-08-03 07:27:52 PM  
381 years. Lol f'ing noobs.
 
2017-08-03 07:29:54 PM  
So how long until people start accepting Hispanics as white? I know from history that way back in the day people didn't acknowledge the Irish as being truly white and now they are and I'm pretty sure the same thing happened to other immigrant groups. Now I don't know about the rest of you but 80% of the time I can't even tell if people are hispanic or just tan, hell one of the whitest girls I have ever met (I mean physically palest) was hispanic.
 
2017-08-03 07:30:29 PM  
As a straight, white, well educated, affluent, male - with blond hair, blue eyes, and a 6-foot frame - let me tell you how hard life can be
 
2017-08-03 07:32:21 PM  

Catlenfell: Without my lily white skin to open doors for me, how will I survive?
On skill and merit?  Like some plebeian?


I know, it's a crime. I don't even have good looks and charm...perhaps pitty will work...it has gotten me farked in the past...
 
2017-08-03 07:32:44 PM  
Are these "non-white Hispanics", believe it or not a term.  I wonder how my kids would count?  I'm am so white as to be translucent, my wife's parents are both Argentinian.  But Argentina as far as immigrants from Western Europe as the USA, so my wife's ancestry is most Italian, Spanish and German with only a bit of South American Indian.

When most people hear Hispanic they think Mexican and Cuban, it means a lot more.
 
2017-08-03 07:33:25 PM  

Anenu: ...I know from history that way back in the day people didn't acknowledge the Irish as being truly white...



Irish people not white?

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2017-08-03 07:35:22 PM  

Giant Clown Shoe: I want to take this headline behind the middle school and get it pregnant.


I'm not sure whether this is pro or against.
 
2017-08-03 07:35:29 PM  

fernt: Could this possibly be because of affirmative action admission policies, or did the minority applicants have higher academic achievements?


You could look it up if you wanted to know instead of trying to insinuate something.

But that would be forthright and not weasel-like.
 
2017-08-03 07:35:49 PM  
Am I supposed to have a problem with this?   Because I'm not sure that I do.
 
2017-08-03 07:36:46 PM  
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2017-08-03 07:37:28 PM  
If the majority of applicants that can afford Harvard are non-white, how does this fact not put the lie to, "The man be holding us down"?
 
2017-08-03 07:40:36 PM  

Anenu: So how long until people start accepting Hispanics as white? I know from history that way back in the day people didn't acknowledge the Irish as being truly white and now they are and I'm pretty sure the same thing happened to other immigrant groups. Now I don't know about the rest of you but 80% of the time I can't even tell if people are hispanic or just tan, hell one of the whitest girls I have ever met (I mean physically palest) was hispanic.


Some whites are Hispanic. Not all Hispanics are white.

It's not difficult.
 
2017-08-03 07:40:47 PM  

Anenu: So how long until people start accepting Hispanics as white? I know from history that way back in the day people didn't acknowledge the Irish as being truly white and now they are and I'm pretty sure the same thing happened to other immigrant groups. Now I don't know about the rest of you but 80% of the time I can't even tell if people are hispanic or just tan, hell one of the whitest girls I have ever met (I mean physically palest) was hispanic.


Where da fark do you live? I can tell them apart instantly. I could see if you said Asians or Arabs look Hispanic.
 
2017-08-03 07:40:51 PM  

HAMMERTOE: If the majority of applicants that can afford Harvard are non-white, how does this fact not put the lie to, "The man be holding us down"?


I dunno, scholarships, small sample size, possible statistical abberation.  Take your pick.
 
2017-08-03 07:41:31 PM  

poorjon: As a straight, white, well educated, affluent, male - with blond hair, blue eyes, and a 6-foot frame - let me tell you how hard life can be


Which Winklevoss brother are you?
 
2017-08-03 07:41:39 PM  
Saying Harvard is the greatest university is like saying Strats are the best violins. It's really all just hype.
 
2017-08-03 07:41:54 PM  

SirEattonHogg: Subby, you know, you'll never get into Harvard if you don't learn when to use an apostrophe.


Subby is obviously a Yale grad.
 
2017-08-03 07:44:23 PM  

HAMMERTOE: If the majority of applicants that can afford Harvard are non-white, how does this fact not put the lie to, "The man be holding us down"?


We're only talking about an entering class of about 1,700 students, so the fact that there are ~850 non-white students who were admitted doesn't really say anything at all about opportunity and race on the macro scale.
 
2017-08-03 07:45:26 PM  

fernt: Could this possibly be because of affirmative action admission policies, or did the minority applicants have higher academic achievements?



In this case, minority applicants have higher academic achievements than another minority group. The higher achieving minority is getting left out in order for Harvard to create more diversity. Affirmative Action, on the other hand, guarantees diversity among equally qualified applicants (in theory, but not practice).
 
2017-08-03 07:48:44 PM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: Saying Harvard is the greatest university is like saying Strats are the best violins. It's really all just hype.


This is a "Strat":

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I think you mean "Strad":

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2017-08-03 07:49:39 PM  
Subby:

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2017-08-03 07:50:29 PM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: Saying Harvard is the greatest university is like saying Strats are the best violins. It's really all just hype.


Its worth millions even though nobody can tell the difference in blind tests
 
2017-08-03 07:51:08 PM  
Boy it's tough.  On the one hand, I can't stand Sessions.  On the other, I don't want him to resign or get fired because I really want to see Mueller really rake Drumpf over the coals.

I believe what y'all call a "dilemma".
 
2017-08-03 07:52:02 PM  
Non-white? You mean colored?

/grandma!
 
2017-08-03 07:52:37 PM  

FrancoFile: SirEattonHogg: Subby, you know, you'll never get into Harvard if you don't learn when to use an apostrophe.

Subby is obviously a Yale MIT grad.


FTFY

Legend has it that on a busy night in a supermarket in Cambridge, some tool went through the "15 items or fewer" line with 21 items. Flustered cashier asked, "Okay, do you go to MIT and can't read, or Harvard and can't count?"

/okay, it's not a legend, it's a joke.
//Boston sucks.
///I didn't say it was a good joke.
 
2017-08-03 07:54:31 PM  

Anenu: So how long until people start accepting Hispanics as white? I know from history that way back in the day people didn't acknowledge the Irish as being truly white and now they are and I'm pretty sure the same thing happened to other immigrant groups. Now I don't know about the rest of you but 80% of the time I can't even tell if people are hispanic or just tan, hell one of the whitest girls I have ever met (I mean physically palest) was hispanic.


The better question is how long until we're able to not classify humans by color?
 
2017-08-03 07:55:20 PM  

karmachameleon: fernt: Could this possibly be because of affirmative action admission policies, or did the minority applicants have higher academic achievements?

Why not both?


Well, reading into the article, it looks like in this case Harvard has reduced or abandoned its affirmative action in favor of other students (including whites) over Asian Americans, plus the latter having higher academic achievements.
 
2017-08-03 07:56:14 PM  
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2017-08-03 07:56:36 PM  

HAMMERTOE: If the majority of applicants that can afford Harvard are non-white, how does this fact not put the lie to, "The man be holding us down"?


Harvard has very good financial aid.  Their stated goal is, "If you get accepted, you can afford to go".  I don't know where their scale starts now, but when they first started the program 10 years ago or so, it was "If your parents make less than 60k, you get a full ride, and it's a sliding scale from there.
 
2017-08-03 07:57:35 PM  

spamdog: Subby:

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Total lack of dedication to the cause.  I mean seriously, look at the shoes.
 
2017-08-03 07:57:41 PM  

spamdog: Subby:

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What the hell is that???
 
2017-08-03 07:58:44 PM  

Madman drummers bummers: FrancoFile: SirEattonHogg: Subby, you know, you'll never get into Harvard if you don't learn when to use an apostrophe.

Subby is obviously a Yale MIT grad.

FTFY

Legend has it that on a busy night in a supermarket in Cambridge, some tool went through the "15 items or fewer" line with 21 items. Flustered cashier asked, "Okay, do you go to MIT and can't read, or Harvard and can't count?"

/okay, it's not a legend, it's a joke.
//Boston sucks.
///I didn't say it was a good joke.


I guess if you live on the East Coast, that's a funny joke.

I don't.
 
2017-08-03 08:03:04 PM  
Does this mean white people can now apply for minority scholarships?
 
2017-08-03 08:06:07 PM  

spamdog: Subby:

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You sound oppressed.
 
2017-08-03 08:08:00 PM  
https://tcf.org/content/report/school-integration-practice-lessons-ni​n​e-districts/

what's the difference between promoting socioeconomic diversity vs promoting racial diversity? They seem to amount to the same thing, except I get the impression that socioeconomic diversity is 'better' somehow.
 
2017-08-03 08:09:37 PM  
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2017-08-03 08:09:57 PM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: Saying Harvard is the greatest university is like saying Strats are the best violins. It's really all just hype.


I have played a Stradivarius (owned by a relative), and I can confirm that it's no different than my "cheap" personal violin made by an unknown maker in the 1870s.

I expect that the primary difference in quality comes from the fact that 99.9% of people ever allowed to touch a Strad have had decades of practice, and they could make even a factory-made violin sound great.
 
2017-08-03 08:13:27 PM  

Thong_of_Zardoz: spamdog: Subby:

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What the hell is that???


Trigglypuff's lesser known sibling?
 
2017-08-03 08:13:35 PM  

PhilCollinsBeatBox: what's the difference between promoting socioeconomic diversity vs promoting racial diversity?


Racial diversity means the rich black kid unfailingly gets the spot ahead of the poor white kid. "Socioeconomic diversity" means poor white kids don't get punished due to the wealth of others.
 
2017-08-03 08:14:40 PM  

fernt: Could this possibly be because of affirmative action admission policies, or did the minority applicants have higher academic achievements?


Maybe there are more minorities.
 
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