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(Minneapolis Star Tribune)   Speaker Paul Ryan held a 'stealth' town hall open only to employees of the business he happened to be touring. The trouble began when he opened the floor to questions   ( startribune.com) divider line
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2017-08-03 06:24:38 AM  
What's Ryan's complaint with the media? The fact that they tell the truth. I hate to tell him this, but to be able to present your message, you actually have to have one first. But his excuse is, verbatim, "We don't control the media."

Meaning if there were no other stations on tv besides fox news, everything would be "fine".
 
2017-08-03 06:30:30 AM  
Ryan also faced questions from other workers about why Congress hasn't been able to repeal the health care law and why Republicans aren't doing a better job with messaging.

Ah, more people who drank the Kool-Aid and want to screw over millions. I really wish someone had thought to ask them just why Obamacare is so bad. Which parts, and how Obamacare has hurt them. Because I am certain that these people are just spouting a mantra without having any deeper thought behind it than it being the Republican line.
 
2017-08-03 06:53:35 AM  
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2017-08-03 07:13:20 AM  

Kirablue42: What's Ryan's complaint with the media? The fact that they tell the truth. I hate to tell him this, but to be able to present your message, you actually have to have one first. But his excuse is, verbatim, "We don't control the media."

Meaning if there were no other stations on tv besides fox news, everything would be "fine".


Meaning that he thinks he and the real Republicans should be in control of the media who should repeat their messages without any editing or presenting any facts.
 
2017-08-03 08:07:20 AM  
"Everybody that voted Republican is getting very frustrating," Ketzler, 62, said.

Could not have said it better myself, sir.
 
2017-08-03 08:15:19 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: "Everybody that voted Republican is getting very frustrating," Ketzler, 62, said.

Could not have said it better myself, sir.


To that, I say piss off.   Everyone else have already been frustrated to the point of fatigue.
 
2017-08-03 08:25:51 AM  

Anastacya: Ryan also faced questions from other workers about why Congress hasn't been able to repeal the health care law and why Republicans aren't doing a better job with messaging.

Ah, more people who drank the Kool-Aid and want to screw over millions. I really wish someone had thought to ask them just why Obamacare is so bad. Which parts, and how Obamacare has hurt them. Because I am certain that these people are just spouting a mantra without having any deeper thought behind it than it being the Republican line.


0bama gonna come with his DEATH PANELS and reeducate us at his FEMA LABER CAMPS into LIEBRAL zombies that do nothing but eat FOOD STAMPS and talk with other LIBTARD zombies on our 0BAMA PHONES!
 
2017-08-03 08:31:36 AM  
Ryan signed up for this job of herding syphilitic cats with head trauma. And now he can't deliver on anything, because he's working with syphilitic cats with head trauma, and a Senate that has absolutely no intention of giving the peons in the House anything, because they can recognize the damage that they'd like to do, all the while their own agenda is JUST as toxic, but they don't have the numbers to effectively quash those nagging voices from within, and a President who is dramatically unqualified and unstable.

Y'all won. Get over it. Drink it all in, you jackanapes...
 
2017-08-03 08:33:16 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: "Everybody that voted Republican is getting very frustrating," Ketzler, 62, said.

Could not have said it better myself, sir.


I could have said it with proper grammar.  If I had voted Republican, that is.
 
2017-08-03 08:46:26 AM  
"We've got to get it done or else I'm really worried that our country will be getting on a bad path," Ryan said.

WILL BE????
 
2017-08-03 08:52:01 AM  
I think the big takeaway here (aside from the fact that Ryan is a weasely weasel) is that even in a "controlled" setting, they are getting shiathammered by their constituents.  The current environment isn't looking too kind for their agenda either.  Their budget promises hinged on the fact that they'd be able to pay for tax cuts with the money from repealing Obamacare.

There is not a whole lot to look forward to in the next year if you happen to be up for reelection in '18.
 
2017-08-03 09:00:28 AM  
That article was as thin on "trouble" as a riverbed in Arizona is thin on water.

Ketzler, who said he voted for Ryan, said after the event that he wasn't the only Republican who is upset.
"Everybody that voted Republican is getting very frustrating," Ketzler, 62, said. "For eight years we've heard, 'We've got a plan, things are going to change.'"

Ryan also faced questions from other workers about why Congress hasn't been able to repeal the health care law and why Republicans aren't doing a better job with messaging.

"We don't control the media," Ryan said.


No, the media controls you. Right Fox News and Rush?
And the guy is right. All the voters heard was promise after promise. They were lied to and now they are starting to suspect they were lied to. Wait til they figure it out. It's coming.
 
2017-08-03 09:04:14 AM  

Mad Scientist: Garza and the Supermutants: "Everybody that voted Republican is getting very frustrating," Ketzler, 62, said.

Could not have said it better myself, sir.

I could have said it with proper grammar.  If I had voted Republican, that is.


I could have passed a health care overhaul bill, but...

assets.vice.com
 
2017-08-03 09:24:30 AM  
Cliff's Notes version: "IT'S NOT OUR FAULT! EVIL DEMOCRATS AND MEDIA! WOOGITY-BOOGITY!"
 
2017-08-03 09:24:35 AM  
I wonder if anyone called him on the 60 vote lie, everyone paying attention knows it was a reconciliation scam maneuver that only needed 50 and Pence
 
2017-08-03 09:26:08 AM  
Three jokes about the same quote and nobody is gonna mention how accidentally true it was?

I agree with Ketzler.  Everone who voted republican is very frustrating. I mean, I don't give a shiat how they feel about things, but I am certainly exasperated with them.
 
2017-08-03 09:27:08 AM  

PainInTheASP: I think the big takeaway here (aside from the fact that Ryan is a weasely weasel) is that even in a "controlled" setting, they are getting shiathammered by their constituents.  The current environment isn't looking too kind for their agenda either.  Their budget promises hinged on the fact that they'd be able to pay for tax cuts with the money from repealing Obamacare.

There is not a whole lot to look forward to in the next year if you happen to be up for reelection in '18.


Understand, though, that (at least if the article is to be believed) they're getting "shiathammered" not because their constituents are opposed to their actions, but because their constituents are angry that their actions aren't happening fast enough, or successfully enough, to please them. No mention of questions that oppose Ryan's actions. No mention of questions that oppose Ryan's support of Trump. No mention of questions that oppose Ryan himself - we're led to believe that the company consists of a homogenous body of sympathetic Republicans who think just like Ryan, but are disappointed that Ryan can't pull the trigger fast enough.

This is the political version of humblebragging. "Sure, we're on the right path, and, sure, we're fighting the good fight, but our people? They want us to become even more righteous, and fight even harder, to screw them over!" The article sounds almost farcical in its ass-kissery.
 
2017-08-03 09:28:32 AM  

Mad Scientist: Garza and the Supermutants: "Everybody that voted Republican is getting very frustrating," Ketzler, 62, said.

Could not have said it better myself, sir.

I could have said it with proper grammar.  If I had voted Republican, that is.


I think Mr Ketezler inadvertently used precisely correct grammar
 
2017-08-03 09:29:03 AM  

Anastacya: Ryan also faced questions from other workers about why Congress hasn't been able to repeal the health care law and why Republicans aren't doing a better job with messaging.

Ah, more people who drank the Kool-Aid and want to screw over millions. I really wish someone had thought to ask them just why Obamacare is so bad. Which parts, and how Obamacare has hurt them. Because I am certain that these people are just spouting a mantra without having any deeper thought behind it than it being the Republican line.


Why is it bad?

1) I should not be forced to buy health insurance, because I take care of myself and thus I will never have any serious health problems.

2) If someone does have serious health problems then they should have known to work harder to earn the money to pay for treatment, because I should not be forced to pay for the medical care of other people.

3) Millions if not billions of Americans lost their doctor despite Obama promising that we could keep our doctors.

Those are the three most common arguments.
 
2017-08-03 09:29:35 AM  

Walker: "We've got to get it done or else I'm really worried that our country will be getting on a bad path," Ryan said.

WILL BE????


The villain is never the villain in his or her own mind. Ryan believes himself to be fighting the good fight, to steer the country towards a libertarian future that makes 'Murica a paradise for the rich, as it ought to be, and that short-sighted Republican moderates and destructive Democrat liberals keep undermining his noble efforts.

He's a goddamned cockstain.
 
2017-08-03 09:30:04 AM  
George Soros is everywhere!!!
 
2017-08-03 09:30:39 AM  
Let's get him into an open forum so somebody can ask, "Tell us, when you said that your fellow Republicans should keep McCarthy's comments about Trump being on Putin's payroll under their hats, because that's how they show they're a 'family,' did you mean a family like mom, dad, the kids and the dog, or did you mean something like the Gambini family? Because if I heard a story about mom and dad telling their kids to keep certain secrets 'under their hats', I'd be thinking I should call CFS.  So is this a mom-dad-kids family with an awful secret, or is it a crime family, or else, what kind of family did you have in mind?"
 
2017-08-03 09:30:58 AM  

Anastacya: I really wish someone had thought to ask them just why Obamacare is so bad. Which parts, and how Obamacare has hurt them. Because I am certain that these people are just spouting a mantra without having any deeper thought behind it than it being the Republican line.


Their standard answer is "death spiral" with some anecdotal evidence from a few dark red counties applied to the entire country.
 
2017-08-03 09:32:08 AM  

RJReves: Mad Scientist: Garza and the Supermutants: "Everybody that voted Republican is getting very frustrating," Ketzler, 62, said.

Could not have said it better myself, sir.

I could have said it with proper grammar.  If I had voted Republican, that is.

I think Mr Ketezler inadvertently used precisely correct grammar


THERE it is.

And a good day to you, sir!
 
2017-08-03 09:32:15 AM  
It's so hard to find decent shills at a good price these days.
 
2017-08-03 09:34:02 AM  
At least the Speaker of the House was man enough to take full responsibility for throwing the Senate under the bus.
 
2017-08-03 09:35:17 AM  

CodeMonkey4Life: I wonder if anyone called him on the 60 vote lie, everyone paying attention knows it was a reconciliation scam maneuver that only needed 50 and Pence


Yes.  But he told the lie because Trump wants them to eliminate the philibuster.
 
2017-08-03 09:38:29 AM  
Is that when the murders began?
 
2017-08-03 09:40:11 AM  
There's a burger place that opened up here last year. It's been getting rave reviews.
I opted out when my son offered to treat me for my b-day, making a pact that when this "nothing burger" farce of an administration is done we'd two go eat in celebration, wearing party hats.

I have made the same plans for when Ryan is ousted as speaker - but it'll be a date to an ice-cream shop and every full-fat scoop with fudge and nuts and whipped cream is going to be a little arm-curl in salute to the downfall of this putz.

Remember when the speaker of the house was held responsible? (cough*boehner*cough)?

Truly, Ryan's only saving grace is that Trump has sucked all the oxygen out of the fail room they're all in.
 
2017-08-03 09:40:32 AM  
Ryan said Senate filibuster rules requiring 60 votes create a "chokehold" that allow Democrats to stop legislation they oppose.

Yeah, what kind of party would misuse to filibuster to block any legislation from getting through?
 
2017-08-03 09:40:51 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: CodeMonkey4Life: I wonder if anyone called him on the 60 vote lie, everyone paying attention knows it was a reconciliation scam maneuver that only needed 50 and Pence

Yes.  But he told the lie because Trump wants them to eliminate the philibuster.


It's enough to drive a motherfarker crazy.

"Yeah, we control the House, Senate, White House and Supreme Court - but the mean old Democrats (cough, and 3 borderline sane GOP Senators, coughcough) are cock blocking us!"
 
2017-08-03 09:41:58 AM  

BeesNuts: RJReves: Mad Scientist: Garza and the Supermutants: "Everybody that voted Republican is getting very frustrating," Ketzler, 62, said.

Could not have said it better myself, sir.

I could have said it with proper grammar.  If I had voted Republican, that is.

I think Mr Ketezler inadvertently used precisely correct grammar

THERE it is.

And a good day to you, sir!


*tips MAGA propeller beanie*

And a good day to you!
 
2017-08-03 09:42:29 AM  

CodeMonkey4Life: I wonder if anyone called him on the 60 vote lie, everyone paying attention knows it was a reconciliation scam maneuver that only needed 50 and Pence


Very few people pay that much attention.

But there's a much larger group of people that understands that Republicans have a majority in both houses of Congress, that there is a Republican President in the White House, and that the Supreme Court is friendly to Republicans.  And yet, all they hear in the news is repeated Republican failures.

That they understand.  That they question.  And the Republican party doesn't have good answers.
 
2017-08-03 09:42:39 AM  

hubiestubert: Ryan signed up for this job of herding syphilitic cats with head trauma. And now he can't deliver on anything, because he's working with syphilitic cats with head trauma, and a Senate that has absolutely no intention of giving the peons in the House anything, because they can recognize the damage that they'd like to do, all the while their own agenda is JUST as toxic, but they don't have the numbers to effectively quash those nagging voices from within, and a President who is dramatically unqualified and unstable.

Y'all won. Get over it. Drink it all in, you jackanapes...


I have admired your way with words for a long while now, but this

"Ryan signed up for this job of herding syphilitic cats with head trauma."

is magnificent beyond all bounds.

i.e., it caused me to snork up a great mouthful of tea and spew it from both mouth and nose. I applaud you.
 
2017-08-03 09:43:35 AM  

tbhouston: George Soros is everywhere!!!


He's in my underwear!

/oh wait, that's Elvis
 
2017-08-03 09:43:57 AM  
"For eight horrible years I heard we don't have control of the House, we don't have control of the Senate, we don't have the presidency," Banker Wire employee Keith Ketzler, 62, said to Ryan.

So I guess Boehner was a Democrat?

/"horrible years"
//of massive gains in the stock market, climbing out of the Bush Recession, no scandals in the WH, ...
 
2017-08-03 09:44:34 AM  

Summoner101: Is that when the murders began?


Only in our better dreams..
 
2017-08-03 09:44:35 AM  
"For eight horrible years I heard we don't have control of the House, we don't have control of the Senate, we don't have the presidency"

I guess nobody told this guy that the GOP took the House in 2010 and the Senate in 2014.
 
2017-08-03 09:44:38 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: "Everybody that voted Republican is getting very frustrating," Ketzler, 62, said.

Could not have said it better myself, sir.


You get a smart and a funny
 
2017-08-03 09:44:45 AM  
Ryan said Senate filibuster rules requiring 60 votes create a "chokehold" that allow Democrats to stop legislation they oppose

Did anyone have the knowledge and/or guts to call him out about how the filibuster didn't apply to this vote?
 
2017-08-03 09:47:26 AM  
It's kind of disappointing.  The fun comic-book villains always brag about the chaos and destruction they cause and gloat about it.
 
2017-08-03 09:47:30 AM  

Dimensio: Anastacya: Ryan also faced questions from other workers about why Congress hasn't been able to repeal the health care law and why Republicans aren't doing a better job with messaging.

Ah, more people who drank the Kool-Aid and want to screw over millions. I really wish someone had thought to ask them just why Obamacare is so bad. Which parts, and how Obamacare has hurt them. Because I am certain that these people are just spouting a mantra without having any deeper thought behind it than it being the Republican line.

Why is it bad?

1) I should not be forced to buy health insurance, because I take care of myself and thus I will never have any serious health problems.

2) If someone does have serious health problems then they should have known to work harder to earn the money to pay for treatment, because I should not be forced to pay for the medical care of other people.

3) Millions if not billions of Americans lost their doctor despite Obama promising that we could keep our doctors.

Those are the three most common arguments.


4) Health care premiums keep going up.  The ACA was supposed to fix that.

This one is a legitimate complaint.

5) Some markets have only one provider.  Some have zero.

Also a legitimate complaint.

Of course, neither of these are show stoppers and supplemental legislation plus some guarantees from the executive branch could shore up the market and encourage more providers to get in and stabilize prices.  The public option that got edited out of the original ACA would also solve these problems.
 
2017-08-03 09:48:52 AM  

Anastacya: Ryan also faced questions from other workers about why Congress hasn't been able to repeal the health care law and why Republicans aren't doing a better job with messaging.

Ah, more people who drank the Kool-Aid and want to screw over millions.


And the "correct answer" would have been, "had that bill passed then millions of people would have been screwed over" but Ryan's answer was, "I can only influence what happens in the House, I did what I could to screw over millions."
 
2017-08-03 09:49:12 AM  
The three Republican votes they lost, any one of which would have been sufficient to pass the repeal, were McCain, Collins, and Murkowski.

If only Ryan could have had time to come up with a health care plan that any of those Senators would have agreed to.  But sadly, he's only had seven years of running on repeal and replace and at least fifteen years of working in the same building as those Senators.  He could have never expected to have needed their votes for any kind of legislation to be passed.
 
2017-08-03 09:49:13 AM  
"Everybody that voted Republican is getting very frustrating," Ketzler, 62, said. "For eight years we've heard, 'We've got a plan, things are going to change.'"

Self-awareness achievement still locked. Maybe next year.
 
2017-08-03 09:50:47 AM  

Bugerz: Anastacya: Ryan also faced questions from other workers about why Congress hasn't been able to repeal the health care law and why Republicans aren't doing a better job with messaging.

Ah, more people who drank the Kool-Aid and want to screw over millions. I really wish someone had thought to ask them just why Obamacare is so bad. Which parts, and how Obamacare has hurt them. Because I am certain that these people are just spouting a mantra without having any deeper thought behind it than it being the Republican line.

0bama gonna come with his DEATH PANELS and reeducate us at his FEMA LABER CAMPS into LIEBRAL zombies that do nothing but eat FOOD STAMPS and talk with other LIBTARD zombies on our 0BAMA PHONES!


EBT cards aren't editable sadly. How are we going to feed the poor with these new fangled cards.
 
2017-08-03 09:53:41 AM  
I've been following his ouster, Randy Bryce, on twitter and around the media for a while now. Pretty fun time he's having with this mess.

I even tossed a few bucks at his campaign and will do so again in the coming months.

Ryan is a randian douchebucket that needs to be primaried and made unemployed. Iron Stache looks to have a good shot at it. I'd check him out, if you're looking to make get some of the toxic shills out of the house and senate
 
2017-08-03 09:55:07 AM  

Persnickety: Dimensio: Anastacya: Ryan also faced questions from other workers about why Congress hasn't been able to repeal the health care law and why Republicans aren't doing a better job with messaging.

Ah, more people who drank the Kool-Aid and want to screw over millions. I really wish someone had thought to ask them just why Obamacare is so bad. Which parts, and how Obamacare has hurt them. Because I am certain that these people are just spouting a mantra without having any deeper thought behind it than it being the Republican line.

Why is it bad?

1) I should not be forced to buy health insurance, because I take care of myself and thus I will never have any serious health problems.

2) If someone does have serious health problems then they should have known to work harder to earn the money to pay for treatment, because I should not be forced to pay for the medical care of other people.

3) Millions if not billions of Americans lost their doctor despite Obama promising that we could keep our doctors.

Those are the three most common arguments.

4) Health care premiums keep going up.  The ACA was supposed to fix that.

This one is a legitimate complaint.

5) Some markets have only one provider.  Some have zero.

Also a legitimate complaint.

Of course, neither of these are show stoppers and supplemental legislation plus some guarantees from the executive branch could shore up the market and encourage more providers to get in and stabilize prices.  The public option that got edited out of the original ACA would also solve these problems.


Both are legitimate complaints, yes, but the part that gets overlooked is that both are happening largely directly because of the GOP, the Amendments the GOP put on the bill in the first place, and the actions OF the GOP since then to kill the bill that the uppity fella got passed.
 
2017-08-03 09:55:35 AM  

Persnickety: Dimensio: Anastacya: Ryan also faced questions from other workers about why Congress hasn't been able to repeal the health care law and why Republicans aren't doing a better job with messaging.

Ah, more people who drank the Kool-Aid and want to screw over millions. I really wish someone had thought to ask them just why Obamacare is so bad. Which parts, and how Obamacare has hurt them. Because I am certain that these people are just spouting a mantra without having any deeper thought behind it than it being the Republican line.

Why is it bad?

1) I should not be forced to buy health insurance, because I take care of myself and thus I will never have any serious health problems.

2) If someone does have serious health problems then they should have known to work harder to earn the money to pay for treatment, because I should not be forced to pay for the medical care of other people.

3) Millions if not billions of Americans lost their doctor despite Obama promising that we could keep our doctors.

Those are the three most common arguments.

4) Health care premiums keep going up.  The ACA was supposed to fix that.

This one is a legitimate complaint.

5) Some markets have only one provider.  Some have zero.

Also a legitimate complaint.

Of course, neither of these are show stoppers and supplemental legislation plus some guarantees from the executive branch could shore up the market and encourage more providers to get in and stabilize prices.  The public option that got edited out of the original ACA would also solve these problems.


Now ask yourself "Why did the premiums go up" and "Why did some markets only have one provider".
 
2017-08-03 09:56:15 AM  

Anastacya: Ryan also faced questions from other workers about why Congress hasn't been able to repeal the health care law and why Republicans aren't doing a better job with messaging.

Ah, more people who drank the Kool-Aid and want to screw over millions. I really wish someone had thought to ask them just why Obamacare is so bad. Which parts, and how Obamacare has hurt them. Because I am certain that these people are just spouting a mantra without having any deeper thought behind it than it being the Republican line.


"Why aren't you screwing us over harder, Paul? You promised to fark us harder! HARDER!"
 
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