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(Politico)   Sen. Lindsey Graham's fainting couch was there to catch him when he heard Trump Sr directed Trump Jr to lie about the Russian meeting   ( politico.com) divider line
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2017-08-01 09:34:58 AM  
"Son, just lie.  It's working for me like a farking champ."
 
2017-08-01 09:38:34 AM  
I've been in the House, I love it, but I'm not going to change 200 years of history because Donald Trump's mad."

Sounds about right.

mad
adjective: mad; comparative adjective: madder; superlative adjective: maddest
1.informal
very angry.
"they were mad at each other"

2.mentally ill; insane.
"he felt as if he were going mad"
 
2017-08-01 09:40:24 AM  
Graham (R-S.C.) indicated that the possibility still existed for Trump's presidency to "still be very consequential" if the president is able to refocus on healthcare and other legislative priorities.


Translation: "Well, Trump's done"
 
2017-08-01 09:57:18 AM  
Lindsey is on the edge. One of these days, the White House will push her too far, and she will crack. Mark my words.
 
2017-08-01 10:12:15 AM  
Not only did the President direct his son to perjure himself in front of Congress but he got caught telling his son to perjure himself to Congress.

thenib.imgix.net
 
2017-08-01 10:15:47 AM  
"It bothers me a lot because, one, he put his son in jeopardy," Graham said    "If that's true then that was a bad decision by the president which will make us ask more questions. when you get caught in a lie about one thing, it makes it hard to just say 'let the other stuff go.'"

When casting this little drama (farce?) who the ell would have ever figured that Lindsey farking Graham would be the one to play the role of "Last honest Republican"?
 
2017-08-01 10:18:26 AM  
I'll take pearl clutching and couch fainting over accepting of these things as the new normal.
 
2017-08-01 10:21:02 AM  
I do believe he's got the vapors!

/as in he stinks!
 
2017-08-01 10:23:09 AM  
If Blanche is still surprised by stuff like this, it's really on him.
 
2017-08-01 10:23:53 AM  

Voiceofreason01: Not only did the President direct his son to perjure himself in front of Congress but he got caught telling his son to perjure himself to Congress.

[thenib.imgix.net image 800x815]


Technically that story says he just told his son to lie to the media and the American people. That's not technically a crime.
 
2017-08-01 10:24:42 AM  
Still, Graham (R-S.C.) indicated that the possibility still existed for Trump's presidency to "still be very consequential" if the president is able to refocus on healthcare and other legislative priorities.

"If that's true then that was a bad decision by the president which will make us ask more questions," Graham said. "When you get caught in a lie about one thing it makes it hard to just say 'let the other stuff go.'"


Remember 20 years ago when lying about a blowjob which had no impact on national security was enough to get a President impeached?  Remember when our biggest debate was arguing what the definition of the words "sex" and "is"?

/Mueller can't effectively do his job fast enough
 
2017-08-01 10:24:44 AM  

Magorn: "It bothers me a lot because, one, he put his son in jeopardy," Graham said    "If that's true then that was a bad decision by the president which will make us ask more questions. when you get caught in a lie about one thing, it makes it hard to just say 'let the other stuff go.'"

When casting this little drama (farce?) who the ell would have ever figured that Lindsey farking Graham would be the one to play the role of "Last honest Republican"?


Trump has lost 2 republicans senators, Graham and Flake.  Cracks are forming in the GOP dyke.
 
2017-08-01 10:25:17 AM  
Fark Lindsey Graham, that hypocritical, posturing ass.

LG:  Ah do declare this is a terrible awful bill. This bill should nevah become law.

Two hours pass...
.
LG: Ah vote yes on this here bill.
 
2017-08-01 10:25:19 AM  
OH MY GOD, somebody in congress is troubled.  This story is AMAZING.
 
2017-08-01 10:26:06 AM  

Muta: Magorn: "It bothers me a lot because, one, he put his son in jeopardy," Graham said    "If that's true then that was a bad decision by the president which will make us ask more questions. when you get caught in a lie about one thing, it makes it hard to just say 'let the other stuff go.'"

When casting this little drama (farce?) who the ell would have ever figured that Lindsey farking Graham would be the one to play the role of "Last honest Republican"?

Trump has lost 2 republicans senators, Graham and Flake.  Cracks are forming in the GOP dyke.


Graham may be effeminate, but that's a bit far.
 
2017-08-01 10:26:07 AM  

Magorn: "It bothers me a lot because, one, he put his son in jeopardy," Graham said    "If that's true then that was a bad decision by the president which will make us ask more questions. when you get caught in a lie about one thing, it makes it hard to just say 'let the other stuff go.'"

When casting this little drama (farce?) who the ell would have ever figured that Lindsey farking Graham would be the one to play the role of "Last honest Republican"?


It's been explained in the multiple McCain and flake threads. No, they're not nice guys. No, they're not gonna stop trump.

This is political 'thoughts and prayers'
 
2017-08-01 10:27:12 AM  
Tomorrow we'll forget about this outrageous thing when he does some other outrageous thing that will also be forgotten after the next outrageous thing.

If Kelly manages to hold this disaster in check long enough, we might be able to focus on just how bad it's been to this point instead of constantly trying to get our heads around what we're looking at.
 
2017-08-01 10:27:16 AM  
He freaks me out because his name sounds like it should be a really hot girl. And there's the obviously gay thing. NTTATWWT
 
2017-08-01 10:27:33 AM  
Still, Graham (R-S.C.) indicated that the possibility still existed for Trump's presidency to "still be very consequential" if the president is able to refocus on healthcare and other legislative priorities.

The Clod Emperor expects a better adjective than "consequential" Lindsay.
"Effective. Productive. Amazing. Awesome. Glorious, even"
 
2017-08-01 10:27:36 AM  

Muta: Magorn: "It bothers me a lot because, one, he put his son in jeopardy," Graham said    "If that's true then that was a bad decision by the president which will make us ask more questions. when you get caught in a lie about one thing, it makes it hard to just say 'let the other stuff go.'"

When casting this little drama (farce?) who the ell would have ever figured that Lindsey farking Graham would be the one to play the role of "Last honest Republican"?

Trump has lost 2 republicans senators, Graham and Flake.  Cracks are forming in the GOP dyke.


He hasn't lost Graham. Graham was a good little soldier and voted yes on the skinny repeal when told to.
 
2017-08-01 10:30:20 AM  
I'm so sick and tired of Graham. He grandstands about the daily scandals, calls them "deeply troubling" or "worrisome" and then does nothing to hold the Administration accountable. If there's one thing I cannot tolerate, it's hypocrites.

/and the Dutch.
 
2017-08-01 10:30:44 AM  
Graham is either suffering from battered wife syndrome or he's running interference to make Republicans appear to be critical of Trump.
 
2017-08-01 10:32:10 AM  
NutWrench:The Clod Emperor

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2017-08-01 10:32:20 AM  

LegacyDL: Graham is either suffering from battered wife syndrome or he's running interference to make Republicans appear to be critical of Trump.


I believe it's the latter. When Republican leadership says something and takes action on it, I'll believe the GOP has finally decided put the country before party.
 
2017-08-01 10:33:23 AM  
Ha!  I read that as farting couch initially.
 
2017-08-01 10:36:55 AM  
He's often been troubled by 45, but he always gets back in line for another suck on the little cheeto.
 
2017-08-01 10:36:56 AM  

Voiceofreason01: Not only did the President direct his son to perjure himself in front of Congress but he got caught telling his son to perjure himself to Congress.


He directed a bunch of people to lie, and even to some of the people investigating.

Perjury requires being under oath.

And the Senate willingly opted NOT to require that any of them speak under oath. No crime.

Awful and unethical, willingly told lies to the American people and the people investigating Russian crimes against the US...... But not perjury.
 
2017-08-01 10:40:12 AM  

Sammichless: Voiceofreason01: Not only did the President direct his son to perjure himself in front of Congress but he got caught telling his son to perjure himself to Congress.

He directed a bunch of people to lie, and even to some of the people investigating.

Perjury requires being under oath.

And the Senate willingly opted NOT to require that any of them speak under oath. No crime.

Awful and unethical, willingly told lies to the American people and the people investigating Russian crimes against the US...... But not perjury.


Perjury is lying under oath. Lying to congress is also a crime whether under oath or not.
 
2017-08-01 10:40:26 AM  

Sammichless: Voiceofreason01: Not only did the President direct his son to perjure himself in front of Congress but he got caught telling his son to perjure himself to Congress.

He directed a bunch of people to lie, and even to some of the people investigating.

Perjury requires being under oath.

And the Senate willingly opted NOT to require that any of them speak under oath. No crime.

Awful and unethical, willingly told lies to the American people and the people investigating Russian crimes against the US...... But not perjury.


That point confuses me, in that video of Waters reclaiming her time she said that even though they weren't sworn in they effectively were
 
2017-08-01 10:40:35 AM  

Sammichless: Voiceofreason01: Not only did the President direct his son to perjure himself in front of Congress but he got caught telling his son to perjure himself to Congress.

He directed a bunch of people to lie, and even to some of the people investigating.

Perjury requires being under oath.

And the Senate willingly opted NOT to require that any of them speak under oath. No crime.

Awful and unethical, willingly told lies to the American people and the people investigating Russian crimes against the US...... But not perjury.


Lying to Congress can be ea crime, even when not under oath.

http://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2017/03/what-are-the-penalties-for-l​y​ing-to-congress.html
 
2017-08-01 10:41:17 AM  

Sammichless: Voiceofreason01: Not only did the President direct his son to perjure himself in front of Congress but he got caught telling his son to perjure himself to Congress.

He directed a bunch of people to lie, and even to some of the people investigating.

Perjury requires being under oath.

And the Senate willingly opted NOT to require that any of them speak under oath. No crime.

Awful and unethical, willingly told lies to the American people and the people investigating Russian crimes against the US...... But not perjury.


Like it would matter if it was.
img.fark.net
 
2017-08-01 10:41:19 AM  
"It bothers me a lot because, one, this might be our last best shot to sell the plebs to whoever is going to line our pockets. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity for us that we've been working towards for decades and we're stuck with this farking moron who can't find his own asshole with both hands and a flashlight, and every time we start to make any progress he opens his yap and draws a bunch of public scrutiny on what we're trying to do here, it's just terrible that people are starting to take notice what's going on in DC.... also he put his son in jeopardy" Graham said on NBC's "Today" show..
 
2017-08-01 10:42:21 AM  
And he's out there screaming like a b*tch about how we're going to bomb the f*ck out of North Korea's missile program.

Jesus Christ. Shut up already you goddamn drama queen.
 
2017-08-01 10:44:26 AM  
Blanche is troubled enough to continue to support Pope Lardo.  He and Jeff Flake are the real mavericks.
 
2017-08-01 10:45:26 AM  
It is terribly frightening to me that Lindsey Graham appears to the Voice of Goddamn Reason in Washington right now.
 
2017-08-01 10:46:01 AM  
And yet, Graham wants another go at Obamacare repeal.
 
2017-08-01 10:46:17 AM  
Donald "Queen of New York" Trump vs Lindsey "Southern Belle" Graham.

There's a cage match we'd like to see.
 
2017-08-01 10:46:27 AM  

Boo_Guy: He's often been troubled by 45, but he always gets back in line for another suck on the little cheeto.


Maybe he just likes Cheetos.
 
2017-08-01 10:46:47 AM  

Muta: Cracks are forming in the GOP dyke.


What's her name?
 
2017-08-01 10:46:47 AM  
What's wrong with kids these days? This whole story raises questions instead of giving answers.

They shouldn't have to be instructed on family values in middle age. When did this kid even learn to question whether lying would be immoral or dangerous or otherwise put a tarnish on the glow. How can we expect a man to rule the country like a boss when his kid is acting like he's in a cult and probably knows the words to "Kumbaya."  Did Trump mistake a Jesuit school teacher for a Mafia lieutenant?  Where did societal norms creep in.
 
2017-08-01 10:46:51 AM  

Voiceofreason01: Not only did the President direct his son to perjure himself in front of Congress but he got caught telling his son to perjure himself to Congress.

[thenib.imgix.net image 800x815]


Was Jr. under oath?  Seriously I don't remember, and it would REALLY matter to the obstruction investigation.
 
2017-08-01 10:47:28 AM  

She comes in colors everywhere: It is terribly frightening to me that Lindsey Graham appears to the Voice of Goddamn Reason in Washington right now.


Don't be fooled by his act. He's just as much in lockstep as any Republucan when it comes time to act, as he proved beyond doubt last week.
 
2017-08-01 10:49:17 AM  

GoldSpider: Voiceofreason01: Not only did the President direct his son to perjure himself in front of Congress but he got caught telling his son to perjure himself to Congress.

[thenib.imgix.net image 800x815]

Was Jr. under oath?  Seriously I don't remember, and it would REALLY matter to the obstruction investigation.


No, it really wouldn't matter much. Lying to Congress can be prosecuted even if the witness wasn't under oath.
 
2017-08-01 10:49:31 AM  

max_pooper: Sammichless: Voiceofreason01: Not only did the President direct his son to perjure himself in front of Congress but he got caught telling his son to perjure himself to Congress.

He directed a bunch of people to lie, and even to some of the people investigating.

Perjury requires being under oath.

And the Senate willingly opted NOT to require that any of them speak under oath. No crime.

Awful and unethical, willingly told lies to the American people and the people investigating Russian crimes against the US...... But not perjury.

Perjury is lying under oath. Lying to congress is also a crime whether under oath or not.


I totes didn't know that. I was angry that they changed their mind about making them speak under oath like they originally said they would.

I DO know that it was "casual Friday" in Congress that day though. Is lying to Congress on "casual Friday" still a crime?

/Hey, it was never my idea to run Government like a business.
 
2017-08-01 10:50:08 AM  

She comes in colors everywhere: It is terribly frightening to me that Lindsey Graham appears to the Voice of Goddamn Reason in Washington right now.


don't let it trouble you because his voting record says he almost always agrees with tRump.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/lindsey-gra​h​am/
 
2017-08-01 10:50:37 AM  

max_pooper: Sammichless: Voiceofreason01: Not only did the President direct his son to perjure himself in front of Congress but he got caught telling his son to perjure himself to Congress.

He directed a bunch of people to lie, and even to some of the people investigating.

Perjury requires being under oath.

And the Senate willingly opted NOT to require that any of them speak under oath. No crime.

Awful and unethical, willingly told lies to the American people and the people investigating Russian crimes against the US...... But not perjury.

Perjury is lying under oath. Lying to congress is also a crime whether under oath or not.


Hmm, what's the potential fallout for a "Contempt of Congress" charge for Jr.?
 
2017-08-01 10:51:02 AM  
"If that's true then that was a bad decision by the president which will make us ask more questions," Graham said. "When you get caught in a lie about one thing it makes it hard to just say 'let the other stuff go.'"

If this were Clinton we were talking about, they'd be putting Hillary and Chelsea in front of a firing squad at this point.
 
2017-08-01 10:53:12 AM  

GoldSpider: max_pooper: Sammichless: Voiceofreason01: Not only did the President direct his son to perjure himself in front of Congress but he got caught telling his son to perjure himself to Congress.

He directed a bunch of people to lie, and even to some of the people investigating.

Perjury requires being under oath.

And the Senate willingly opted NOT to require that any of them speak under oath. No crime.

Awful and unethical, willingly told lies to the American people and the people investigating Russian crimes against the US...... But not perjury.

Perjury is lying under oath. Lying to congress is also a crime whether under oath or not.

Hmm, what's the potential fallout for a "Contempt of Congress" charge for Jr.?


The legal ramifications are probably different in any of the alternate timelines where there is any chance the Republicans would actually legal action against a Trump.
 
2017-08-01 10:54:27 AM  
This thread needs a SC Mint Julep (what too early?)
cdn.liquor.com
 
2017-08-01 10:59:12 AM  
I do declare! The vapors!
 
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