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(The Daily Beast)   Chief of Staff Kelly trying to work with Democrats, will be fired next week   ( thedailybeast.com) divider line
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2017-08-01 08:28:10 AM  
Next week? It's only Tuesday.
 
2017-08-01 08:34:18 AM  
Trump: ok John you're in charge

John: thank you Mr President. I need your phone we're going to disable your twitter account.

Thus ends Kelly's reign as chief of staff
 
2017-08-01 08:39:04 AM  
Sounds like he may be able to see some of the forest through the trees. That idealism is probably going to get him fired, though. That, and getting Trump to stop shooting himself in the foot isn't going to happen, short of a stroke.
 
2017-08-01 08:42:37 AM  
The only way he's going to make inroads with the Dems is to be willing to make compromises and work with them on bipartisan legislation. If he thinks he's going to sway Dems without that, he's going to be disappointed. 

 Kelly can clean house and exert some influence on Trump, it's going to be interesting.
 
2017-08-01 08:52:33 AM  
He will fail spectacularly.  Trump has no self control and you can't change a man who doesn't want to change.

If I was given this Sisyphean task I would ask him to surrender his cell phone at night and only have access during the daylight hours.
 
2017-08-01 08:54:38 AM  
Trump is radioactive.  Democrats are not going to want to be anywhere in the blast radius no matter how friendly and approachable Kelly makes himself.  Trump has a very well established history of undermining any efforts his administration has of trying to be diplomatic and getting things done.  One tweet later, it's all a shambles.  Dems will not want to have anything to do with that.
 
2017-08-01 09:10:54 AM  

EvilEgg: He will fail spectacularly.  Trump has no self control and you can't change a man who doesn't want to change.

If I was given this Sisyphean task I would ask him to surrender his cell phone at night and only have access during the daylight hours.


Daylight hours wouldn't be enough.  Many of his stupidest tweets got send out while taking his morning shiat.
 
2017-08-01 09:14:15 AM  
Kelly can say whatever he wants in an attempt to be bipartisan and get Democrats to help Trump accomplish something.  But he's going to be facing the problems of:

1. 99% of the thing Trump wants to do he only wants because it would piss off libs.
2. Even if he manages to convince Democrats that Trump agrees with them on something, how can he possibly give assurances that he's in a position to actually know what Donny wants, that if he knows he's actually telling the truth, and that if he's telling the truth Donny won't change his mind in the next ten minutes.
 
2017-08-01 09:21:41 AM  

GooberMcFly: Next week? It's only Tuesday.


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2017-08-01 09:23:22 AM  
 Waving at the immigrant who is using the leaf blower to clear your front lawn while you are having your breakfast bagel does not really count as "working with democrats."  Sure, it's a hopeful sign, but...
 
2017-08-01 09:25:12 AM  
 First, the Republicans would need to learn that "Ok, we'll only destroy 90% of Obamacare." isn't actually compromise.
 
2017-08-01 09:26:00 AM  
I'm glad to see the "Democrats should go full obstructionists!" coup-force is out in full force this morning. Whatever happened to working together?
 
2017-08-01 09:28:39 AM  
Let's all work together to destroy the country, whaddayasay?

/no
 
2017-08-01 09:28:44 AM  

snowshovel: I'm glad to see the "Democrats should go full obstructionists!" coup-force is out in full force this morning. Whatever happened to working together?


died sometime around 2008 when Republicans vowed to do everything in their power to make the black guy a one term president.

shiat sucks when its on the other foot, don't it?
 
2017-08-01 09:28:55 AM  
No he isn't. No, he didn't care that Comey got fired. He didn't almost resign in protest. This is media flack so liberals can pretend like there's an adult in the room. It prevents us from admitting that the democratic process won't fix the problem.
 
2017-08-01 09:29:05 AM  
If Kelly is trying to make a few in roads in good faith, makes some progress and Trump starts dissing him, I think Kelly won't hesitate to call him out as an asshole.
" I'm your last chance Donny, don't fuc|< this up!"
 
2017-08-01 09:30:38 AM  

snowshovel: I'm glad to see the "Democrats should go full obstructionists!" coup-force is out in full force this morning. Whatever happened to working together?


That died when the GOP stopped working with Dems and actively tried to sabotage every piece of legislation the Dems brought forward nearly two decades ago.
 
2017-08-01 09:30:59 AM  

Champion of the Sun: No he isn't. No, he didn't care that Comey got fired. He didn't almost resign in protest. This is media flack so liberals can pretend like there's an adult in the room. It prevents us from admitting that the democratic process won't fix the problem.


Oh God, not this Bullshiat again.
 
2017-08-01 09:35:43 AM  
Oh I guess Trump wants to lose that 30% that would "never" turn on him. Working with Nancy Pelosi is about the only way you can do It!!
 
2017-08-01 09:35:52 AM  

snowshovel: I'm glad to see the "Democrats should go full obstructionists!" coup-force is out in full force this morning. Whatever happened to working together?


There is working together and then there is being left with the bill at the end of the meal.  Why would the Democrats want to work with a group of shills for the 0.0001% to take America back to the 1850's?  I can see it now, both sides work together to pass some legislation that D2S has on his feeble squirrel brain, it gets implemented, then tanks some sector of the economy.  All of a sudden, it's "the Dems and the libby libs brought this atrocity onto the 'Murican people!!!11!1", and the cycle begins anew with even dumber players.  It's a dangerous proposition, and right now, I see the GOP and their died in the wool followers as Dynamite Monkey.(tm)
 
2017-08-01 09:35:59 AM  
After being call subhuman by Trump Jr., I'm sure the Democrats will be happy to work with Trump.

Not.
 
2017-08-01 09:37:24 AM  

Archidude: Champion of the Sun: No he isn't. No, he didn't care that Comey got fired. He didn't almost resign in protest. This is media flack so liberals can pretend like there's an adult in the room. It prevents us from admitting that the democratic process won't fix the problem.

Oh God, not this Bullshiat again.


Seriously dudes. This guy's on the level. He's working with us  he's gonna make sure trump doesn't tweet shiatcock all nigjt long. He's a military man. He's gonna right the ship. This whole thread is people who refuse to believe the entire administration is full of the worst people.

Looking for the best in people is one of the great things about liberals, but it also makes us blind to the danger of this administration.

See also McMaster and Mattis. Threads full of liberals saying they're good his who are gonna smooth out trumps rough edges.
 
2017-08-01 09:38:22 AM  

BagofOtters: snowshovel: I'm glad to see the "Democrats should go full obstructionists!" coup-force is out in full force this morning. Whatever happened to working together?

There is working together and then there is being left with the bill at the end of the meal.  Why would the Democrats want to work with a group of shills for the 0.0001% to take America back to the 1850's?  I can see it now, both sides work together to pass some legislation that D2S has on his feeble squirrel brain, it gets implemented, then tanks some sector of the economy.  All of a sudden, it's "the Dems and the libby libs brought this atrocity onto the 'Murican people!!!11!1", and the cycle begins anew with even dumber players.  It's a dangerous proposition, and right now, I see the GOP and their died in the wool followers as Dynamite Monkey.(tm)


Because
A-Trump is easily manipulated and stands for nothing except to declare he won.

B- working with dems is the only way to get his hardcore base to turn on him and Republicans in general.
 
2017-08-01 09:38:36 AM  
you can probably get democrats to cross the aisle for tax cuts for the rich.
 
2017-08-01 09:40:15 AM  
Yes, all it takes to get Democrats on board with Trump's agenda of:

- Giant tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy
- Getting rid of healthcare for tens of millions of Americans
- Banning minorities and Muslims from entering the US
- Deporting as many Mexicans as he can find
- Encouraging police brutality to instill "order"
- Kicking off trade wars with Europe, Mexico, and China
- Purging people who tend to vote Democrat from the voting rolls

Is Kelly reaching out a hand.  I can see it now: "We'll compromise... Russia can only have EASTERN Europe.  Look, we are meeting you half way, why are you being so obstinate?"
 
2017-08-01 09:40:39 AM  

Headso: you can probably get democrats to cross the aisle for tax cuts for the rich.


Bannon wants a tax increase for the rich.

People in this thread are talking like Trump believes in all the shiat he says. He doesn't. He just says shiat to please other people.
 
2017-08-01 09:41:16 AM  
Ya sure. And while he's at it he can also try to sweet talk all the Democrats into sticking wet fingers inside a light socket.
 
2017-08-01 09:41:30 AM  
So this is Trump's boot camp training? Get straightened out by Gunny Highway?
 
2017-08-01 09:44:10 AM  
Pelosi should have a huge news conference and go on and on about how it's refreshing that Trump wants to work with her and the democrats. Talk about pissing his base offf. It would be hillaious.
 
2017-08-01 09:45:58 AM  

snowshovel: I'm glad to see the "Democrats should go full obstructionists!" coup-force is out in full force this morning. Whatever happened to working together?


Yes, what are the democrats being offered?
 
2017-08-01 09:47:09 AM  
Look the only reason people are sticking with Trump is because it's STIGGINT to the Democrats. If the democrats come out saying Pelosi and Trump are
looking to work together. They will turn on him.

Look at the big picture.
 
2017-08-01 09:48:34 AM  

Champion of the Sun: Archidude: Champion of the Sun: No he isn't. No, he didn't care that Comey got fired. He didn't almost resign in protest. This is media flack so liberals can pretend like there's an adult in the room. It prevents us from admitting that the democratic process won't fix the problem.

Oh God, not this Bullshiat again.

Seriously dudes. This guy's on the level. He's working with us  he's gonna make sure trump doesn't tweet shiatcock all nigjt long. He's a military man. He's gonna right the ship. This whole thread is people who refuse to believe the entire administration is full of the worst people.

Looking for the best in people is one of the great things about liberals, but it also makes us blind to the danger of this administration.

See also McMaster and Mattis. Threads full of liberals saying they're good his who are gonna smooth out trumps rough edges.


Kelly may not be able to "right the ship" and change Trump, but I think people want to believe he will have more of a disciplining influence over Trump, especially when it comes to WH staff. I would love to see Gorka gone by the end of the day.

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2017-08-01 09:49:49 AM  

Karac: EvilEgg: He will fail spectacularly.  Trump has no self control and you can't change a man who doesn't want to change.

If I was given this Sisyphean task I would ask him to surrender his cell phone at night and only have access during the daylight hours.

Daylight hours wouldn't be enough.  Many of his stupidest tweets got send out while taking his morning shiat.


Daylight hours on the dark side of the moon?
 
2017-08-01 09:50:28 AM  
Stop taking snowshovel seriously. he's a low-grade troll. Nothing he says is serious.
 
2017-08-01 09:50:30 AM  

DeaH: snowshovel: I'm glad to see the "Democrats should go full obstructionists!" coup-force is out in full force this morning. Whatever happened to working together?

Yes, what are the democrats being offered?


Don't confuse snowshovel with a logical question.
 
2017-08-01 09:51:42 AM  

somedude210: snowshovel: I'm glad to see the "Democrats should go full obstructionists!" coup-force is out in full force this morning. Whatever happened to working together?

died sometime around 2008 when Republicans vowed to do everything in their power to make the black guy a one term president.

shiat sucks when its on the other foot, don't it?


I believe that wedge actually started in 2001 with Bush's "with us or against us" mantra. Bush, Cheney and the rest were busy building a case for Iraq II on falsehoods engineered to dupe the American people (or at least Fox News viewers and those like snowshovel).
 
2017-08-01 09:52:35 AM  

ImOscar: Kelly may not be able to "right the ship" and change Trump, but I think people want to believe he will have more of a disciplining influence over Trump, especially when it comes to WH staff. I would love to see Gorka gone by the end of the day.


That's the problem. We want to believe rather than observe reality. Our optomism needs to be tempered a little. It serves us well, but could be made to serve the empire.
 
2017-08-01 09:53:30 AM  

snowshovel: I'm glad to see the "Democrats should go full obstructionists!" coup-force is out in full force this morning. Whatever happened to working together?


It died 8 1/2 years ago. Go ask Yertle about it.
 
2017-08-01 09:54:06 AM  

Pinner: So this is Trump's boot camp training? Get straightened out by Gunny Highway?


If going to the New York Military Academy as a kid didn't shape him up, that's not going to work any better now.
 
2017-08-01 09:54:17 AM  

snowshovel: I'm glad to see the "Democrats should go full obstructionists!" coup-force is out in full force this morning. Whatever happened to working together?


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2017-08-01 09:55:49 AM  

somedude210: snowshovel: I'm glad to see the "Democrats should go full obstructionists!" coup-force is out in full force this morning. Whatever happened to working together?

died sometime around 2008 when Republicans vowed to do everything in their power to make the black guy a one term president.

shiat sucks when its on the other foot, don't it?


Both sides are bad so vote Democrat. Got it.
 
2017-08-01 09:55:53 AM  

Karac: Kelly can say whatever he wants in an attempt to be bipartisan and get Democrats to help Trump accomplish something.  But he's going to be facing the problems of:

1. 99% of the thing Trump wants to do he only wants because it would piss off libs.

wants to do it (reverse it) because Obama did it and it galls him to think that people love Obama more than him.
2. Even if he manages to convince Democrats that Trump agrees with them on something, how can he possibly give assurances that he's in a position to actually know what Donny wants, that if he knows he's actually telling the truth, and that if he's telling the truth Donny won't change his mind in the next ten minutes.

FIFY
 
2017-08-01 09:56:03 AM  

snowshovel: I'm glad to see the "Democrats should go full obstructionists!" coup-force is out in full force this morning. Whatever happened to working together?



Good boy snowshovel...  Good boy...
img.fark.net
 
2017-08-01 09:57:00 AM  
Why do you folks insist on feeding that farking troll?
 
2017-08-01 09:57:14 AM  

Pinner: So this is Trump's boot camp training? Get straightened out by Gunny Highway?


img.fark.net
Hmm, he seems like a nice guy
 
2017-08-01 10:00:02 AM  
Working with Democrats is easy.

Step one: Create legislation that Democrats want.

That's really it. One step. Done.
 
2017-08-01 10:02:22 AM  
So the guy behind the travel ban and turning American deporation into an unregulated Waffen-SS wants Democrats to help him enact Trump's agenda?

How about 'no', does 'no' work for you? Just goose-step in circles around Herr Drumpf until he puts a knife in your back like he does to everyone else, you sack of shiat.
 
2017-08-01 10:03:13 AM  

snowshovel: somedude210: snowshovel: I'm glad to see the "Democrats should go full obstructionists!" coup-force is out in full force this morning. Whatever happened to working together?

died sometime around 2008 when Republicans vowed to do everything in their power to make the black guy a one term president.

shiat sucks when its on the other foot, don't it?

Both sides are bad so vote Democrat. Got it.


No, you don't get very much at all.  I'm sure you don't even know how gravity works.
 
2017-08-01 10:04:07 AM  

symptomoftheuniverse: Why do you folks insist on feeding that farking troll?


Because I like to humor the intellectually disadvantaged.
 
2017-08-01 10:08:28 AM  

Dictatorial_Flair: Karac: EvilEgg: He will fail spectacularly.  Trump has no self control and you can't change a man who doesn't want to change.

If I was given this Sisyphean task I would ask him to surrender his cell phone at night and only have access during the daylight hours.

Daylight hours wouldn't be enough.  Many of his stupidest tweets got send out while taking his morning shiat.

Daylight hours on the dark side of the moon?


The dark side of the moon is only always dark from the point of view of Earth.  It's in direct sunlight half of each month.
 
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