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(Politico)   Donnie Boy has militarized the White House, because that worked so well for Gerald Ford. This is a man who had never read a book in his life   ( politico.com) divider line
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2017-08-01 02:15:43 AM  
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D'oh!
 
2017-08-01 02:19:08 AM  
I figure he's read at least a couple books...

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2017-08-01 02:29:34 AM  
Kelly came from a culture in which if "we just tell the truth, that's enough,"

Let me know how that works out for you.
 
2017-08-01 02:33:09 AM  
The political neophytes waddle into Trump's WH with a nice clean CV and great expectations, and then watch as their dignity is slowly stripped away by having to defend lies which get found out within hours.

And then Trump spits them out
 
2017-08-01 02:53:47 AM  
Hire Uber drivers.
 
2017-08-01 03:08:13 AM  

mjjt: The political neophytes waddle into Trump's WH with a nice clean CV and great expectations, and then watch as their dignity is slowly stripped away by having to defend lies which get found out within hours.

And then Trump spits them out


Or as Sam Bee calls it Trump's spreading taint.
Trump's Spreading Taint | July 26, 2017 Act 2 | Full Frontal on TBS
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2017-08-01 03:31:00 AM  

sithon: mjjt: The political neophytes waddle into Trump's WH with a nice clean CV and great expectations, and then watch as their dignity is slowly stripped away by having to defend lies which get found out within hours.

And then Trump spits them out

Or as Sam Bee calls it Trump's spreading taint.
[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/pBmiOJFiwWs - 480x270]


*THWUP*
 
2017-08-01 04:33:54 AM  
I don't understand these people champing at the bit to do Donnie Two Scoops' bidding. I'm a substitute teacher and a consultant (for free) for strings and steel drum programs in public schools. I'm not a high roller. I don't have a high social profile. But I could never imagine undermining my own credibility by whoring myself out for the farcical administration we have now.

I know people gotta eat, but damn. Is it worth your entire reputation to work for that asshole? You could work at McDonald's or any paper hat job and still retain your dignity.
 
2017-08-01 04:46:52 AM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't understand these people champing at the bit to do Donnie Two Scoops' bidding. I'm a substitute teacher and a consultant (for free) for strings and steel drum programs in public schools. I'm not a high roller. I don't have a high social profile. But I could never imagine undermining my own credibility by whoring myself out for the farcical administration we have now.

I know people gotta eat, but damn. Is it worth your entire reputation to work for that asshole? You could work at McDonald's or any paper hat job and still retain your dignity.


I get ya. I work in aerospace IT and while I make a decent living, it's nothing special. If Dolt 45 called me up to be, say, the National Science Advisor, I'd never do it, there's simply no way I'd want the rest of my career stained by association with his administration.
 
2017-08-01 05:48:17 AM  

timujin: ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't understand these people champing at the bit to do Donnie Two Scoops' bidding. I'm a substitute teacher and a consultant (for free) for strings and steel drum programs in public schools. I'm not a high roller. I don't have a high social profile. But I could never imagine undermining my own credibility by whoring myself out for the farcical administration we have now.

I know people gotta eat, but damn. Is it worth your entire reputation to work for that asshole? You could work at McDonald's or any paper hat job and still retain your dignity.

I get ya. I work in aerospace IT and while I make a decent living, it's nothing special. If Dolt 45 called me up to be, say, the National Science Advisor, I'd never do it, there's simply no way I'd want the rest of my career stained by association with his administration.


Exactly. We're both professionals in our field. D2S has never been a professional anything, unless real estate mooch and criminal is a profession.
 
2017-08-01 05:53:13 AM  
I chuckled at The Onion's version (just a headline and a photo):

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2017-08-01 05:53:38 AM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't understand these people champing at the bit to do Donnie Two Scoops' bidding.


most are doing it for the money, or at least the opportunity to steal a lot of cash legally.  A few are 'true believers' of course, and the rest just wanna beat the snot out of non christians and brown people.

its the 'true believers' that ya gotta watch out for.  they're the one's donny can get to do all sorts of weird, illegal things.
 
2017-08-01 06:40:41 AM  
They didn't cover the news of what was under his command - including Guantanamo Bay - in what he considered a fair way.

How can you cover that fairly? Its illegal under international law and a black stain on our history. its a disgrace to this day.
 
2017-08-01 07:00:56 AM  
Two Scoops picking up a book to read may give him ideas, and I don't know that would be in the best interests of the US. Right now he is a chaotic idiot, and that is bad enough. Actually having a plan on how to run this country into the ground is utterly terrifying. In either scenario, the man needs to go. I would rather him be the moron that he is and flail about ineffectually, however, until that time comes.

It's going to be absolute insanity when it all goes down. Two Scoops isn't going to go quietly into the night.
 
2017-08-01 07:05:47 AM  

Weaver95: ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't understand these people champing at the bit to do Donnie Two Scoops' bidding.

most are doing it for the money, or at least the opportunity to steal a lot of cash legally.  A few are 'true believers' of course, and the rest just wanna beat the snot out of non christians and brown people.

its the 'true believers' that ya gotta watch out for.  they're the one's donny can get to do all sorts of weird, illegal things.


I think you're right, but I just can't imagine selling myself like that. I mean... what would my mom think? I don't even believe in god, but somehow, I think that I'm going to be held accountable for what I've done in my life by something. Maybe my own legacy long after I've gone. Who knows? I don't want to be remembered as a Nixon when I'm dead. Even if people remember me that long.

My family is big on genealogy, and we share stories about my grandparents, great-grandparents, etc. And we remember their greatest attributes and their funny stories. Have my ancestors done terrible things? Most likely. Do I know about them? No. My dad's father's family was officially excommunicated from the Catholic church after my great-grandfather horse-whipped a Franciscan priest. He was threatened with hell, damnation, and excommunication for not paying tithing. My great-grandfather Castillo (whose grandfather left Spain precisely to get away from the Catholics) said, basically, "Bring it."

The more religious side of my dad's family joined the Seventh-Day Adventists after that, which is the vegetarian equivalent of weirdo Mormons.

And we love the SDA's in our family. In the last year and a half, I've seen a massive die-off of my grandfather's closest family. They were all pushing 90 to 100. (God, I hope I inherited their longevity.) But the SDA church here in my little town have been very respectful of us and limited the Jeebus talk at the funerals and pushed more a celebration of my great-uncles' and aunts' life.
 
2017-08-01 07:12:41 AM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: I think you're right, but I just can't imagine selling myself like that.


the people in trump's orbit aren't right in the head tho.  trump doesn't like OR want you around unless you are completely devoid of morality, ethics  and anything remotely resembling good taste.  And the only thing he wants from women is to be drop dead gorgeous and give him blow jobs whenever he wants.

My point is that the people who go and work for trump are damaged and have spent years being damaged people.  so its a mistake to assume they'll act sane or what passes for normal in D.C.
 
2017-08-01 07:19:02 AM  
This is a man who had never read a book in his life

Of course not.  He'd have someone read it too him.  If he could pay attention past the first 3 sentences because it wouldn't be about him.  Now, if it were about him, he'd be giving it his full attention and want more.
 
2017-08-01 07:35:10 AM  
He thinks it will protect him from an arrest or coup.
 
2017-08-01 07:38:48 AM  
Oh cmon now, he reads hitler bedtime stories.
 
2017-08-01 07:39:44 AM  
In his experience with the Marines, Kelly came from a culture in which if "we just tell the truth, that's enough," Lapan said.

Hoo boy. Kelly is WAY out of his element in Trump's White House....
 
2017-08-01 07:42:55 AM  
He's never really written a book either......
 
2017-08-01 07:44:14 AM  
The White House isn't the only thing being militarized.  The GOP has weaponized local police forces beyond that of most countries.  They're not real crazy about protests.
 
2017-08-01 07:45:33 AM  

Weaver95: ecmoRandomNumbers: I think you're right, but I just can't imagine selling myself like that.

the people in trump's orbit aren't right in the head tho.  trump doesn't like OR want you around unless you are completely devoid of morality, ethics  and anything remotely resembling good taste.  And the only thing he wants from women is to be drop dead gorgeous and give him blow jobs whenever he wants.

My point is that the people who go and work for trump are damaged and have spent years being damaged people.  so its a mistake to assume they'll act sane or what passes for normal in D.C.


Add in the tendency to grift and you have it covered. Because it's bloody obvious that all of them are raping the country for e ery penny while their tenuous position lasts.
 
2017-08-01 07:45:43 AM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't understand these people champing at the bit to do Donnie Two Scoops' bidding. I'm a substitute teacher and a consultant (for free) for strings and steel drum programs in public schools. I'm not a high roller. I don't have a high social profile. But I could never imagine undermining my own credibility by whoring myself out for the farcical administration we have now.

I know people gotta eat, but damn. Is it worth your entire reputation to work for that asshole? You could work at McDonald's or any paper hat job and still retain your dignity.


The glass half full way of looking at it is these people have enough confidence in themselves that they think the good they can do will outweigh working for a horrible boss.  Even if they stop him from doing 1 stupid thing, that's better than not taking the job and letting him hire someone who will do that stupid thing.
 
2017-08-01 07:47:25 AM  

Ezimar: The White House isn't the only thing being militarized.  The GOP has weaponized local police forces beyond that of most countries.  They're not real crazy about protests.


And Trump has made it clear that Police brutality will not just be protected, it is positively encouraged under his Admistration.

And the cops cheered.
 
2017-08-01 07:47:28 AM  
Perhaps I am being overly charitable, but among the people Two Scoops resonates most strongly with is a group of deeply, deeply broken folks that realize how broken they are, but do not trust themselves to fix themselves, and are looking for a strong authority figure to force "fixedness" upon them. Trump doesn't resonate by being the authority figure in this dynamic, but by being the broken person: Putin was the authority figure. Or so this demographic saw them, anyway. But Putin is rapidly becoming... unavailable. A new authority is needed.

Perhaps this is why Trump is turning to military figures. It's unclear whether Trump actually seeks a daddy in his own life, but at the very least, someone in his team knows that the daddy-seekers need to see Trump with a daddy even if there isn't really one. That may be Kelly's real role now.
 
2017-08-01 07:49:03 AM  
Donny thinks that having a Chief of Staff who's a former general means he will finally get those military parades he wants, and the general might get Donny a special uniform with lots of shiny, shiny medals.
 
2017-08-01 07:49:28 AM  

timujin: ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't understand these people champing at the bit to do Donnie Two Scoops' bidding. I'm a substitute teacher and a consultant (for free) for strings and steel drum programs in public schools. I'm not a high roller. I don't have a high social profile. But I could never imagine undermining my own credibility by whoring myself out for the farcical administration we have now.

I know people gotta eat, but damn. Is it worth your entire reputation to work for that asshole? You could work at McDonald's or any paper hat job and still retain your dignity.

I get ya. I work in aerospace IT and while I make a decent living, it's nothing special. If Dolt 45 called me up to be, say, the National Science Advisor, I'd never do it, there's simply no way I'd want the rest of my career stained by association with his administration.


I completely agree about working for this admin however I could see certain patriotic folks doing it with the idea that Trump is gonna get a lot of good people killed so I want to be in there to mitigate it. For the greater good of the country. prior to Trump when a president asked you did. Look i am not a GOP fan etc but if for some crazy reason my country called me and said hey we need your help. I would be hard pressed to say no regardless of the President. If it was working directly for him in the WH no. But somewhere else ? I would have to think long and hard about it. Its your country asking you for help. and im a long hair hippie lefty.
 
2017-08-01 07:54:14 AM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't understand these people champing at the bit to do Donnie Two Scoops' bidding. I'm a substitute teacher and a consultant (for free) for strings and steel drum programs in public schools. I'm not a high roller. I don't have a high social profile. But I could never imagine undermining my own credibility by whoring myself out for the farcical administration we have now.

I know people gotta eat, but damn. Is it worth your entire reputation to work for that asshole? You could work at McDonald's or any paper hat job and still retain your dignity.


1) Money
2) Power
3) Ideology
 
2017-08-01 07:56:04 AM  

vernonFL: They didn't cover the news of what was under his command - including Guantanamo Bay - in what he considered a fair way.

How can you cover that fairly? Its illegal under international law and a black stain on our history. its a disgrace to this day.


It's essentially a recruitment poster for vengeful terrorists, but the cement-heads like Kelly just can't get their minds around that.
 
2017-08-01 08:00:26 AM  
"Kelly came from a culture in which if "we just tell the truth, that's enough," "

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2017-08-01 08:01:47 AM  
Sure, but does the GOP have an exit strategy?
 
2017-08-01 08:05:27 AM  
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2017-08-01 08:12:51 AM  
FTA: In his experience with the Marines, Kelly came from a culture in which if "we just tell the truth, that's enough," Lapan said.

Then why the hell is he working for Trump, one of the biggest liars in the history of politics?   I don't know why people seem to think Kelly is such a straight shooter. Anyone who ties themselves to Trump, their reputation is immediately suspect in my opinion.
 
2017-08-01 08:16:33 AM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't understand these people champing at the bit to do Donnie Two Scoops' bidding. I'm a substitute teacher and a consultant (for free) for strings and steel drum programs in public schools. I'm not a high roller. I don't have a high social profile. But I could never imagine undermining my own credibility by whoring myself out for the farcical administration we have now.

I know people gotta eat, but damn. Is it worth your entire reputation to work for that asshole? You could work at McDonald's or any paper hat job and still retain your dignity.


Money and Hate.
 
2017-08-01 08:22:30 AM  

mjjt: The political neophytes waddle into Trump's WH with a nice clean CV and great expectations


Yeah no. Trumps assholery has been known for years, and this administration's failure was obvious on day one. They all walk into this willingly.  They bought their tickets.
 
2017-08-01 08:23:40 AM  
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2017-08-01 08:24:20 AM  
Ford militarized the White House?
 
2017-08-01 08:37:56 AM  
Trump likes having generals around. He considers them the ultimate authority figure.

He won't listen to them, he won't ask them for advice, and ultimately he doesn't respect them. But Trump knows that they are proven leaders. They say the word and the soldiers will kill or die for them, or so Trump believes.

He is surrounding himself with them because he is hoping that the concept of vicarious participation will kick in (not that he knows that term but he does know the concept). It's basically the next part of "fake it until you make it." In this context you hang out with others with greater perceived authority or money or whatever, and others start reacting to you as though you belong in that group.

Trump wants that credibility. He sees the esteem in which the generals are held and the reactions of others in the military to them. He wants that. He craves it. But he can't have it directly. He hopes it rubs off on him. I'm sure he believes it is automatic, in fact.
 
2017-08-01 08:56:23 AM  
I think the reason Trump likes generals is he believes they have to be loyal to him, as commander in chief.  They can't go behind his back and they have to do what he says, like taking the job in the first place. He can't get that kind of loyalty from his cronies.
 
2017-08-01 09:17:11 AM  
So what does the headline have to do with TFA?
 
2017-08-01 10:00:22 AM  

ArkPanda: I think the reason Trump likes generals is he believes they have to be loyal to him, as commander in chief.  They can't go behind his back and they have to do what he says, like taking the job in the first place. He can't get that kind of loyalty from his cronies.


I think it's more of the uniform fetish one often sees with conservatives(not that Trump is conservative). Align yourself with the police and armed forces with the idea that their competence, masculinity and authority will be reflected onto you.

/aka "wannabe"
 
2017-08-01 10:57:34 AM  

Anastacya: Two Scoops isn't going to go quietly into the night.


I have a feeling that he will. Oh, there'll be plenty of snot-bubbling puling on Twitter and he'll probably bluster a lot on his subsequent rallies--because you know he'll still at least try to hold rallies--but he's way too much of a pansy to actually, literally dig in his heels or in any way inconvenience the nice men escorting him out. I suspect he'll do that look-at-the-floor-in-embarrassment thing he does when he perceives the other person as having gotten one over on him.
 
2017-08-01 11:42:51 AM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't understand these people champing at the bit to do Donnie Two Scoops' bidding. I'm a substitute teacher and a consultant (for free) for strings and steel drum programs in public schools. I'm not a high roller. I don't have a high social profile. But I could never imagine undermining my own credibility by whoring myself out for the farcical administration we have now.

I know people gotta eat, but damn. Is it worth your entire reputation to work for that asshole? You could work at McDonald's or any paper hat job and still retain your dignity.


Unfortunately there are no shortage of people ready to chuck their dignity in a dumpster and kiss the ass of the strongest bully in the room until their lips are brown.  If anything, the worse the bully, the more anxious they are to prove their loyalty by fawning all over him.
 
2017-08-01 12:06:43 PM  

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't understand these people champing at the bit to do Donnie Two Scoops' bidding. I'm a substitute teacher and a consultant (for free) for strings and steel drum programs in public schools. I'm not a high roller. I don't have a high social profile. But I could never imagine undermining my own credibility by whoring myself out for the farcical administration we have now.

I know people gotta eat, but damn. Is it worth your entire reputation to work for that asshole? You could work at McDonald's or any paper hat job and still retain your dignity.

Unfortunately there are no shortage of people ready to chuck their dignity in a dumpster and kiss the ass of the strongest bully in the room until their lips are brown.  If anything, the worse the bully, the more anxious they are to prove their loyalty by fawning all over him.


There are also probably some people hoping to, if not effect change from within, then at least exert whatver positive influence they can. God knows we need as many of them as we can get, as high up as they can get.
 
2017-08-01 04:12:25 PM  

kindms: timujin: ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't understand these people champing at the bit to do Donnie Two Scoops' bidding. I'm a substitute teacher and a consultant (for free) for strings and steel drum programs in public schools. I'm not a high roller. I don't have a high social profile. But I could never imagine undermining my own credibility by whoring myself out for the farcical administration we have now.

I know people gotta eat, but damn. Is it worth your entire reputation to work for that asshole? You could work at McDonald's or any paper hat job and still retain your dignity.

I get ya. I work in aerospace IT and while I make a decent living, it's nothing special. If Dolt 45 called me up to be, say, the National Science Advisor, I'd never do it, there's simply no way I'd want the rest of my career stained by association with his administration.

I completely agree about working for this admin however I could see certain patriotic folks doing it with the idea that Trump is gonna get a lot of good people killed so I want to be in there to mitigate it. For the greater good of the country. prior to Trump when a president asked you did. Look i am not a GOP fan etc but if for some crazy reason my country called me and said hey we need your help. I would be hard pressed to say no regardless of the President. If it was working directly for him in the WH no. But somewhere else ? I would have to think long and hard about it. Its your country asking you for help. and im a long hair hippie lefty.


If I was already working in one of the agencies, say the EPA, where I thought staying on might help make sure they continue to do some good, then sure. But we're talking about working directly with and for the administration. McMasters seems to have stayed above the fray, but for the most part it seems anyone that gets involved with the administration gets Trump spray all over themselves.
 
2017-08-01 08:24:02 PM  

Saiga410: So what does the headline have to do with TFA?


I might guess it is that Ford's chief of staff was General Alexander Haig

Except he inherited him from Nixon, and then soon ditched him for Rumsfeld, and later Cheney

So who the fark knows
 
2017-08-02 02:51:37 AM  
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