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2017-07-31 09:31:53 PM  
You created the monster. Now suck down the freedom juice from the homunculus schlong and gargle it.
 
2017-07-31 09:32:00 PM  
That was pretty well-reasoned. It's a tiny thing, and it's a year late, but it was well reasoned.
 
2017-07-31 09:34:07 PM  

Eclectic: You created the monster. Now suck down the freedom juice from the homunculus schlong and gargle it.


was going to post something and now I've completely forgotten what it was
 
2017-07-31 09:36:36 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: Eclectic: You created the monster. Now suck down the freedom juice from the homunculus schlong and gargle it.

was going to post something and now I've completely forgotten what it was


I know my post wasn't productive or helpful, but I've had "homunculus schlong floating around in my head for a while, and it seemed apropos :-/
 
2017-07-31 09:36:56 PM  
I will let the liberals answer for their own sins in this regard. (There are many.)

GFY, Jeff. I know your family, and so do most of my friends. Don't go playing fast and loose with the "sin" thing.

There are no secrets up here in the White Mountains.
 
2017-07-31 09:38:33 PM  

Eclectic: You created the monster. Now suck down the freedom juice from the homunculus schlong and gargle it.


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2017-07-31 09:47:16 PM  
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If he truly believed that, these scores would be much lower.
 
2017-07-31 09:48:31 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: I will let the liberals answer for their own sins in this regard. (There are many.)

GFY, Jeff. I know your family, and so do most of my friends. Don't go playing fast and loose with the "sin" thing.

There are no secrets up here in the White Mountains.


Go on.
 
2017-07-31 09:52:05 PM  
Jeff Flake = Pence's flack.
 
2017-07-31 09:54:06 PM  
Hey, at least it's a step in the right direction. It's a bit of a baby step, but it is a step.
 
2017-07-31 09:58:01 PM  
It's Hillary's turn.
 
2017-07-31 10:06:33 PM  
For the longest time I only heard that name, I couldn't tell if it was Jeff Lake of Jeff Flake. Really, a Flake in congress? There's about 500 of them.
 
2017-07-31 10:09:15 PM  
Well, I'm disappointed in Jeff Flake.  I have a calendar on my bedroom wall with "Expectations for Jeff Flake" written in my best marker, and if I had a nickel for every "Expectation(s) for Jeff Flake" that Jeff Flake has failed to satisfy, I would not have a lot of nickels.  Very few.  To be fair, none.
 
2017-07-31 10:23:27 PM  

jbc: [img.fark.net image 425x683]

If he truly believed that, these scores would be much lower.


We all caught FiveThirtyEight in bed with the UPS driver, the pool boy AND the recently divorced cougar next door... and still you're going back to the schmuck?  Just DTMFA!
 
2017-07-31 10:29:31 PM  
It's a start. Perhaps he'll soon recognize some of the other in denial things the GOP has going.
 
2017-07-31 10:49:06 PM  
But we conservatives

What are "conservatives" conserving?  They are nostalgic about the 1950s, when women didn't matter, coloreds were comedy relief, and gays didn't exist.  Also oil companies ruled, gas was trivial,  and the environment didn't matter.
 
2017-07-31 10:59:33 PM  
A better headline would have been "Jeff Flake has a new book coming out"
 
2017-07-31 11:00:30 PM  

Eclectic: You created the monster. Now suck down the freedom juice from the homunculus schlong and gargle it.


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2017-07-31 11:12:17 PM  
The only thing that matters is abortion. Abortion is murder and a sin. Nothing else matters. When we overturn Roe vs. Wade, it doesn't matter how many wars Trump gets us into or whatever he does with Russia. America will be great again when the murder and sin of abortion is ended.
 
2017-07-31 11:15:10 PM  
Sorry, I was Poeing not trolling.
 
2017-07-31 11:15:46 PM  
Flake would definitely have more credibility if he wasn't one of the more slavering Trump toadies, but it's still pretty significant that a high level Republican official is making noises like this.  Even if he hasn't followed up with action.
 
2017-07-31 11:21:44 PM  
It sounded like the first step of admitting that there is a problem. And some 4th step moral inventory. And he did well to admit there misdeeds against Obama. It really takes hitting rock bottom before people give up their selfish addictions and yearn to be a contributing member of society again.
 
2017-07-31 11:29:04 PM  

Nied: Flake would definitely have more credibility if he wasn't one of the more slavering Trump toadies, but it's still pretty significant that a high level Republican official is making noises like this.  Even if he hasn't followed up with action.


I had to look up "slaver". Because I thought you meant "slather" or "slobber".

The first definition was the noun, someone involved in the slave trade.

Turns out the verb slaver is related to "saliva". So it's similar to slobber. But not quite slather, unless he was slathering his Trump toadyism onto our consciousnesses.
 
2017-07-31 11:32:19 PM  
FTFA: If by 2017 the conservative bargain was to go along for the very bumpy ride because with congressional hegemony and the White House we had the numbers to achieve some long-held policy goals-even as we put at risk our institutions and our values-

Well there's your first mistake. You no longer have Repulicans who care about policy goals and they certainly don't care about institutions and values.

What Republican politicians care about is simply getting re-elected. If they have the throw policy goals, institutions and values under the bus to get re-elected then they'll do it.  If they have to behave like an idiot in order to court the consistent voters who are idiots then they'll do that even if it means the rest of the party gets farked over by their actions.

Me before Party.
Party before Country.

If you told them "You follow this path you're on and your country will become a fascist hell hole with an idiot dictator at the reigns, but you yourself will have your job for life" how many of them do you think would say "Holy shiat, I've gotta do something to uphold the constitution and protect the citizenry of this nation and everything we stand for."? How many do you think would say "Sweet! I'll hold office for life!"

The Republican party has been courting the "I've got mine, screw you" sociopaths since the 80s and now you're acting surprised when the politicians themselves are said sociopaths? How could you not see this coming? How could you not imagine that by constantly pandering to the worst elements in your citizenry you yourselves would become them?

You want to fix things then fix the primary process your party uses to pick its candidates. Eliminate the gerrymandering that gives the lunatic fringe in your party a disproportionate amount of power and move your party back to the centre. Yeah, some of you will lose your jobs. Some of you won't get elected this time around. Most of the country hovers around the middle, some are a little more liberal than others and some are a little more conservative than others. That whack-a-doodle alt-right group may consistently vote for you if you pander to their worst instincts but they're never going to vote for Democrats. You've given that far right fringe far more power than they deserve or are entitled to.

Right now the Republican party is where the Whigs were in the 1800s. You have people who are more or less rational, and right of centre in the party, and then you have the dyed in the derp far right whackos. The Whigs cut them loose. The party fractured into the Republicans and a third party called the Know Nothing Party. The Know Nothings were never more than a fringe derp party.

It's time for Republicans to cut the Know Nothings loose from the party again. Become a centre right party and actually fight Democrats on the middle ground.Sometimes you'll lose. Sometimes you'll win. The important thing is the Nation wins. Let the derps jerk themselves off with their third party fantasies. They'll never hold power and they won't vote Democrat.
 
2017-07-31 11:47:39 PM  

Kevin72: I had to look up "slaver".


Here's a fun fact: the word "slave" comes from the word "Slav" as many Slavs ended up as slaves.
 
2017-08-01 12:16:40 AM  

cman: Kevin72: I had to look up "slaver".

Here's a fun fact: the word "slave" comes from the word "Slav" as many Slavs ended up as slaves.


I'll buy that.  Now explain the track suits.
 
2017-08-01 12:22:37 AM  

LowbrowDeluxe: cman: Kevin72: I had to look up "slaver".

Here's a fun fact: the word "slave" comes from the word "Slav" as many Slavs ended up as slaves.

I'll buy that.  Now explain the track suits.


Now thats something that even the greatest minds in science could never solve
 
2017-08-01 12:24:54 AM  
So, where should Republicans go from here?

First, we shouldn't hesitate to speak out if the president "plays to the base" in ways that damage the Republican Party's ability to grow and speak to a larger audience
.

Uh huh. Sure you will. Let me just set up my stop watch and wait for you, personally, to respond to his word vomit. Hang on. I'm gonna need a calendar to go with my watch.

Second, Republicans need to take the long view when it comes to issues like free trade: Populist and protectionist policies might play well in the short term, but they handicap the country in the long term.

Interesting. He suggests that only focusing on making the wealthy more wealthy may not be the best idea. I like how he hides this under a layer of layered word salads so the "uneducated" that Trump loves so much won't understand. Sort of like a lot of his buttery phrases and rhetoric in this piece.

Third, Republicans need to stand up for institutions and prerogatives, like the Senate filibuster, that have served us well for more than two centuries.

Well, that and the Presidency. Are you gonna stand up for that one? The guy in charge is missing all his marbles and he just wants to golf some more and why hasn't his wife put out as often as he'd like. Being President is hard and you won't help him and he's just mad and misunderstood and as mature as a baked clam.
 
2017-08-01 12:39:10 AM  
Pence sure has been spending a lot of time hanging around in the Senate. If I didn't know any better, I'd say he was campaigning.
 
2017-08-01 12:59:17 AM  

Tanqueray: Pence sure has been spending a lot of time hanging around in the Senate. If I didn't know any better, I'd say he was campaigning.


he's hoping to not go down alongside Trump....but I don't think he's going to get to be president, since he's best line of defense so far has been to say he's a clueless moron that has no idea what trump is doing.
 
2017-08-01 01:08:51 AM  
"I don't agree with this political party which is all united in a common belief"
"Why don't you leave that party then"
"No way, I'm a team player!!!!"
 
2017-08-01 01:12:48 AM  
I see the posturing to replace the current administration is in full swing.
 
2017-08-01 01:13:17 AM  

Eclectic: You created the monster. Now suck down the freedom juice from the homunculus schlong and gargle it.


Is that you, Mooch?
 
2017-08-01 01:13:19 AM  
so instead of like
voting against one of his proposals
or building a badass schism in the party
or calling for no confidence in mcconnell
or calling for his impeachment
you
a united states senator
write an editorial
in.......................... politico

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2017-08-01 01:15:18 AM  

syrynxx: But we conservatives

What are "conservatives" conserving?  They are nostalgic about the 1950s, when women didn't matter, coloreds were comedy relief, and gays didn't exist.  Also oil companies ruled, gas was trivial,  and the environment didn't matter.


And the Russians were the enemy.
 
2017-08-01 01:15:33 AM  
TALK IS CHEAP, Jeff. I agree with most of what you wrote, but you're also up for re-election in 2018, and we've seen this routine from your side of the aisle countless times now.
 
2017-08-01 01:16:27 AM  

syrynxx: But we conservatives

What are "conservatives" conserving?  They are nostalgic about the 1950s, when women didn't matter, coloreds were comedy relief, and gays didn't exist.  Also oil companies ruled, gas was trivial,  and the environment didn't matter.


You forgot white male paternalism.
 
2017-08-01 01:16:48 AM  

moothemagiccow: so instead of like
voting against one of his proposals
or building a badass schism in the party
or calling for no confidence in mcconnell
or calling for his impeachment
you
a united states senator
write an editorial
in.......................... politico

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He's mavericking at a nearly McCainian level!
 
2017-08-01 01:16:56 AM  

Weaver95: Tanqueray: Pence sure has been spending a lot of time hanging around in the Senate. If I didn't know any better, I'd say he was campaigning.

he's hoping to not go down alongside Trump....but I don't think he's going to get to be president, since he's best line of defense so far has been to say he's a clueless moron that has no idea what trump is doing.


look, i'm just mentioning for the third time that this is the first time i've heard about this, right here in this interview. i listen to worship music 24/7 on circumaural headphones, i miss a lot   of what is going on
 
2017-08-01 01:17:04 AM  

syrynxx: But we conservatives

What are "conservatives" conserving?  They are nostalgic about the 1950s, when women didn't matter, coloreds were comedy relief, and gays didn't exist.  Also oil companies ruled, gas was trivial,  and the environment didn't matter.


Most of the "conservative" politicians care about what they are paid to care about.
Conservative voters, however, almost all fall into a few camps:
1. Religious (Christian) - this camp still doesn't have control of the government even though it thinks it does with guys like Pence near the top. Americans don't want a theocracy yet, but they have a strong influence.
2. Hates government (usually with a few exceptions like the military) and taxes, because they don't see any use for it (except for the parts that affect them directly), and believes Republicans will get rid of both government and taxes (at least the parts that they care about, they don't care about the rest).
3. Rich or people who act like they are. Obviously some of the 1% have financial reasons to promote Republicans but some people who make $100,000+ think they are part of the 1% and act like they are. They might own a small business and think Republicans have their best interest at heart. Or they might drive a BMW and think they are hot shiat, unlike the minorities and poors. They have a business or work somewhere that has low city taxes to promote businesses and think that's how the entire federal and state government should operate. I don't completely understand this, but it's a thing.
 
2017-08-01 01:18:54 AM  
The Trump problem could be solved by three moderate Republicans going independent, and caucus with the Senate Democrats putting Wall Street playboy, Chuck Schumer in power.
 
2017-08-01 01:26:04 AM  
 
2017-08-01 01:27:48 AM  

wildcardjack: For the longest time I only heard that name, I couldn't tell if it was Jeff Lake of Jeff Flake. Really, a Flake in congress? There's about 500 of them.


this is like when the kid was watching youtube and someone kept saying Papa Troll and I thought there was a cartoon about a paternal woodland monster but no, turns out it's some kind of rescue dog thing called Paw Patrol
 
2017-08-01 01:29:36 AM  

cman: Kevin72: I had to look up "slaver".

Here's a fun fact: the word "slave" comes from the word "Slav" as many Slavs ended up as slaves.


That wasn't fun at all!
 
2017-08-01 01:31:00 AM  

FreeBirdInTheHand: That was pretty well-reasoned. It's a tiny thing, and it's a year late, but it was well reasoned.

 
I thought so too, yet he's still republican.
 
2017-08-01 01:31:32 AM  
Times when this soul searching might have been helpful

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These are just the "slam dunks."
I don't have all night to GIS.

Trump didn't hide how awful he is. It was on full display for all to see throughout the campaign.
In fairness to Flake and some of the other Republicans who did speak up after some of his more egregious incidents, they were all but ignored by the idiots who voted him into office. But at this point, Senator, with due respect, IT IS YOUR PROBLEM TO FIX. YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES ARE THE ONLY ONES WITH THE POWER TO REMOVE HIM.

Do it.

Now.
 
2017-08-01 01:31:48 AM  
When your constituency is loaded with unabashed hypocrites who collapsed on their fainting couch over every perceived slight committed by the pRedisent over the last 8 years and who suddenly now unapologetically embrace, with the same passion they embrace their bible and guns, every dimwitted statement from the numbskull-in-chief, mostly because they think it irritates liberals no matter what other effect it might have on the country they claim to be so patriotic about.... yea, you're party is in farking denial you shiat-for-brains idiot.

/glug-glug-glug
//*thud*
///
 
2017-08-01 01:33:10 AM  
"where should Republicans go from here? First, we shouldn't hesitate to speak out if the president "plays to the base" in ways that damage the Republican Party's ability to grow and speak to a larger audience."

Screw worrying about damage to a political party.  That's why we are in the mess we are in right now.  These people represent everyone in their district/state. They should be concerned about damage to the COUNTRY.
 
2017-08-01 01:34:14 AM  

King Something: cman: Kevin72: I had to look up "slaver".

Here's a fun fact: the word "slave" comes from the word "Slav" as many Slavs ended up as slaves.

That wasn't fun at all!


Here's a fun fact: the word "fun" originally meant to trick or fool

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=fun&allowed_in_frame=0
 
2017-08-01 01:35:39 AM  

Eclectic: Soup4Bonnie: Eclectic: You created the monster. Now suck down the freedom juice from the homunculus schlong and gargle it.

was going to post something and now I've completely forgotten what it was

I know my post wasn't productive or helpful, but I've had "homunculus schlong floating around in my head for a while, and it seemed apropos :-/


The definition of 'homunculus' wasn't what I expected.

/TIL the meaning of homunculus
 
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