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(Arkansas Online)   At the end of a drug trial that you're a juror on, you're not allowed to take the evidence home as a parting gift   ( arkansasonline.com) divider line
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2017-07-29 11:16:01 AM  
Why not?  It's just going to waste.  That's good stuff!
 
2017-07-29 11:38:27 AM  
After jury duty you need a painkiller.
 
2017-07-29 01:15:30 PM  
That's why you take some of the heroin, not all the pills.  People notice when all of something is gone.
 
2017-07-29 01:22:41 PM  
You're no fun, subby!
 
2017-07-29 01:23:01 PM  
No free samples? Drat.

Jury selection would definitely be made easier by allowing free samples in drug trials, prostitution trials, etc.
 
2017-07-29 01:23:14 PM  
Mericans love their opiates......and even soccer moms will lie cheat and steal for them.
 
2017-07-29 01:24:20 PM  
If the pill's been nicked you must acquit.
 
2017-07-29 01:39:17 PM  
I've been on jury duty three times (I don't know why the courts love me) and have seen the prosecution flaunt a murder weapon and various crazy shiat but never narcotics.
 
2017-07-29 01:55:06 PM  

brantgoose: No free samples? Drat.

Jury selection would definitely be made easier by allowing free samples in drug trials, prostitution trials, etc.


money laundering...
 
2017-07-29 01:56:23 PM  
The Columbus Dispatch reported that attorney John David Moore Jr. says jurors found his client guilty and then rushed out of the courthouse before anyone noticed the 71 opioid pills were missing.

Jurors find you guilty and then slip away with the evidence. I didn't know that was a possible outcome of a trial. It may be the most insidious thing that I've ever read.


On a different note, after typing a search term for a meme, Google returned this gem-

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2017-07-29 01:56:50 PM  
Yeah, dude, the evidence goes back to the police so they can sell it back on the street immediately.  It's true.  I saw it in movies, so it must be true.
 
2017-07-29 01:57:46 PM  
Oh sure, blame the jurors.
 
2017-07-29 02:34:37 PM  
What better way to calm 12 Angry Men?

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2017-07-29 02:38:08 PM  
Hm. Good on the attorney for doing his job and trying to get his client acquitted, but I'm not sure I understand his argument. The trial was over, all evidence had been presented, not sure how the evidence going missing after the trail constitutes a mistrial.

On the other hand, perhaps the argument is that the jurors rushed to an unconsidered judgment in an effort to quickly abscond with the goodies, robbing his client of due process. Sure, why not. Bonus: Less evidence for the retrial.
 
2017-07-29 02:39:34 PM  
I gotta tell ya, if someone had just said something about that to me...

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2017-07-29 02:39:51 PM  

rjakobi: Yeah, dude, the evidence goes back to the police so they can sell it back on the street immediately.  It's true.  I saw it in movies, so it must be true.


Things like that would be used to tip a good source rather than being sold.

/tip for a tip
 
2017-07-29 02:41:45 PM  

LindenFark: Hm. Good on the attorney for doing his job and trying to get his client acquitted, but I'm not sure I understand his argument. The trial was over, all evidence had been presented, not sure how the evidence going missing after the trail constitutes a mistrial.

On the other hand, perhaps the argument is that the jurors rushed to an unconsidered judgment in an effort to quickly abscond with the goodies, robbing his client of due process. Sure, why not. Bonus: Less evidence for the retrial.


Probably has to do with the appeals process? I dunno.
 
2017-07-29 03:10:24 PM  
Sounds like a perfect plot to the movie The Rural Juror.
 
2017-07-29 03:25:00 PM  

fragMasterFlash: Oh sure, blame the jurors.


Actually you are probably right. They wouldn't even normally have a chance to come close to any evidence.
 
2017-07-29 03:36:56 PM  
The juror just wanted to fully understand both sides of the argument - the prosecution's and the accused. Luckily this was not a murder trial.
 
2017-07-29 04:31:40 PM  
"The Columbus Dispatch reported that attorney John David Moore Jr. says jurors found his client guilty and then rushed out of the courthouse before anyone noticed the 71 opioid pills were missing."

Now I have the "Yakkity Sax" song stuck in my head.
 
2017-07-29 04:32:13 PM  
Since when do jurors have hands-on access to evidence? Pictures sure but how would they get their hands on drugs, guns, knives, etc.?
 
2017-07-29 04:46:48 PM  

berylman: fragMasterFlash: Oh sure, blame the jurors.

Actually you are probably right. They wouldn't even normally have a chance to come close to any evidence.


Agreed.   The jurors didn't come near it because every time a bag of drugs changes hands, it gets lighter, period.  This is a known fact of law enforcement, and the reason that most of the mass of the Universe is unaccounted for.
 
2017-07-29 05:30:56 PM  
It's Arkansas.  And Oxy.  Everyone is suspect.
 
2017-07-29 05:34:57 PM  
There isn't any actual evidence of the jurors doing it, just the claims of the defense attorney.  I wonder if he's also the one that noticed that the pills were gone.

He would seem to be the prime suspect, to me.
 
2017-07-29 07:43:30 PM  

bughunter: It's Arkansas.  And Oxy.  Everyone is suspect.


Nah, this is Ohio. The only surprising thing is that the juror didn't leave their meth pipe behind.
 
2017-07-29 09:00:58 PM  
Are you sure? I'm on a Jury for a guy accused of running a Brothel, and there is this one cute Asian girl...
 
2017-07-29 09:21:47 PM  

LindenFark: Hm. Good on the attorney for doing his job and trying to get his client acquitted, but I'm not sure I understand his argument. The trial was over, all evidence had been presented, not sure how the evidence going missing after the trail constitutes a mistrial.

On the other hand, perhaps the argument is that the jurors rushed to an unconsidered judgment in an effort to quickly abscond with the goodies, robbing his client of due process. Sure, why not. Bonus: Less evidence for the retrial.


That would be an interesting situation.

Suppose they retry him under the theory you said:  Jurors wanted to get away with the loot.

1.  Cop's report says 71 pills.  There are no pills in evidence.  So he can't be convicted of that.
2.  If they amend the report to not mention the pills, Jurors ask, "Why was the report amended"?
3.  If the jury absconded with the pills, who is to say that they didn't tamper with the other evidence some way?

I think it would have to end up with an instant acquittal at that point.
 
2017-07-29 10:15:09 PM  

stuffy: Are you sure? I'm on a Jury for a guy accused of running a Brothel, and there is this one cute Asian girl...


You looked but you didn't take her home did you? Big diff.  (she's a witness not evidence anyways)
 
2017-07-29 11:09:21 PM  
Welp, there goes my retirement plan.
 
2017-07-30 08:24:52 PM  
Ninety ................ EIGHT pills of oxy on the wall
 
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