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2017-07-26 09:30:02 PM  
President Trump has discussed with confidants and advisers in recent days the possibility of installing a new attorney general through a recess appointment if Jeff Sessions leaves the job, but he has been warned not to move to push him out because of the political and legal ramifications, according to people briefed on the conversations.

Which means

He's TOTALLY gonna do it

OMG I need popcorn
 
2017-07-26 09:52:53 PM  
It's going to be very, very interesting to see if they go into full recess.
 
2017-07-26 09:56:35 PM  
but he has been warned not to move to push him out because of the political and legal ramifications

Legal ramifications?

Where we're going, we don't need legal ramifications!
 
2017-07-26 10:03:16 PM  
Who the hell is he going to replace him with? Sessions is literally the least competent person for the job in the entire country. It's an incredibly low bar to overcome. To find somebody less competent or at least, more evil, I'm thinking Trump will have to look to another species.
 
2017-07-26 10:07:02 PM  

seilide: Who the hell is he going to replace him with? Sessions is literally the least competent person for the job in the entire country. It's an incredibly low bar to overcome. To find somebody less competent or at least, more evil, I'm thinking Trump will have to look to another species.


Well, there was speculation about Cruz...
 
2017-07-26 10:11:55 PM  

scottydoesntknow: but he has been warned not to move to push him out because of the political and legal ramifications

Legal ramifications?

Where we're going, we don't need legal ramifications!


I would so love to own a DeLorean. That's all, carry on
 
2017-07-26 11:29:12 PM  

scottydoesntknow: seilide: Who the hell is he going to replace him with? Sessions is literally the least competent person for the job in the entire country. It's an incredibly low bar to overcome. To find somebody less competent or at least, more evil, I'm thinking Trump will have to look to another species.

Well, there was speculation about Cruz...


There's always Eric trump
 
2017-07-26 11:43:44 PM  

seilide: Who the hell is he going to replace him with? Sessions is literally the least competent person for the job in the entire country. It's an incredibly low bar to overcome. To find somebody less competent or at least, more evil, I'm thinking Trump will have to look to another species.


You made an appropriate correction there. Sessions is completely backwards in terms of policy - he is indeed a bad little elf. However, he is absolutely NOT incompetent, though he may be made to be so with the constant distraction of his boss throwing him very public shade
 
2017-07-26 11:48:48 PM  
that would be an exceptionally horribly bad idea.
 
2017-07-26 11:58:55 PM  
News dump the afternoon before recess might be really interesting.
 
2017-07-27 12:12:16 AM  
Donald Trump. The only person in the world that can make me root for Jeff Session.
 
2017-07-27 12:14:51 AM  

Demetrius: Donald Trump. The only person in the world that can make me root for Jeff Session.


I despise both men, just for different reasons.
 
2017-07-27 12:17:49 AM  
Trump has no idea what he's doing. Obviously. It has been obvious for years. And now we have an obviously stupid person as President because people saw that hot mess of moron labia and thought he represented them well.
 
2017-07-27 12:19:47 AM  

Demetrius: Donald Trump. The only person in the world that can make me root for Jeff Session.


Throw them both into a locked room, toss in a rusty katana and a Model 29 with one malfunctioning bullet, and tell them the victor lives.  Then, while they're fighting to the death, call in an orbital strike.
 
2017-07-27 12:23:42 AM  

SoupGuru: Trump has no idea what he's doing. Obviously. It has been obvious for years. And now we have an obviously stupid person as President because people saw that hot mess of moron labia and thought he represented them well.


well...Maddow might have a point.  this sudden surge of anti-LGBT stuff might be a bit of meat trump throws to his evangelical backers as he prepares to fire Sessions and replace him with a toady who will follow orders and get rid of Mueller.
 
2017-07-27 12:31:31 AM  

Weaver95: SoupGuru: Trump has no idea what he's doing. Obviously. It has been obvious for years. And now we have an obviously stupid person as President because people saw that hot mess of moron labia and thought he represented them well.

well...Maddow might have a point.  this sudden surge of anti-LGBT stuff might be a bit of meat trump throws to his evangelical backers as he prepares to fire Sessions and replace him with a toady who will follow orders and get rid of Mueller.


I remember this other guy that liked to throw out meat to his minions.  It didn't work out so well for him.

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2017-07-27 12:52:50 AM  

scottydoesntknow: seilide: Who the hell is he going to replace him with? Sessions is literally the least competent person for the job in the entire country. It's an incredibly low bar to overcome. To find somebody less competent or at least, more evil, I'm thinking Trump will have to look to another species.

Well, there was speculation about Cruz...


Ted Cruz - Why am I persecuted?
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2017-07-27 01:11:54 AM  
Oh God, I hope so. It might just split the Republican party, plus Sessions is a garbage human who shouldn't be in that position in the first place, so...
 
2017-07-27 01:14:28 AM  
If what's been reported is true then it's going to be very amusing watching Trump take shots at his own AG that won't step down unless actually fired.

I've ordered more popcorn.
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2017-07-27 01:15:35 AM  
You gonna let your advisers tell you what to do, President Cuck?

What a pussy.
 
2017-07-27 01:17:51 AM  
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2017-07-27 01:19:29 AM  
the strangest part of all this is what everyone is dancing around and not talking about....and that is the fact that trump is acting *incredibly* guilty and is apparently desperate to kill Mueller's investigation.  THAT is the key driving factor behind trump's push to get Sessions out.
 
2017-07-27 01:19:41 AM  
CROOKED HitLIARy!
 
2017-07-27 01:20:20 AM  
Senate Democrats have already signaled they will filibuster any attempt to adjourn for the recess. The Senate has a number of procedural steps to block recess appointments, and Obama's own attempts to circumvent them were knocked down by the courts.

I mean, he could still totally attempt it in the hopes that he could get everything done before the courts ruled he had exceeded his authority to do that, but it just makes it all the more flagrant that he is obstructing justice with all these moves.

Oh, and calling it: if we do get to the "Congress has to reappoint Mueller" step, Trump has the chutzpah that I expect him to claim Mueller has a conflict of interest that he is angry that he got fired for investigating Trump when Trump didn't want him to so Mueller/his team/Congressmen who approved them must recuse themselves.
 
2017-07-27 01:21:58 AM  
These illegal leaks are embarrassing.
 
2017-07-27 01:22:12 AM  
Go ahead. Try to find a stooge who'll fire Mueller. That worked so well for Nixon, after all.

Either Fat Donny forces the GOP to impeach him  which splits the party because the Trump and Tea Party cultists would see it as a coup by the Establishment, or the GOP ignores it, which practically writes the Democrats' attack ads for them. And banking on the Democrats to NOT use it as an attack is a huge risk.
 
2017-07-27 01:23:16 AM  

seilide: Sessions is literally the least competent person for the job in the entire country.


that's what we said about george w bush
trump will straight farking clown your previous conception of incompetence
 
2017-07-27 01:23:20 AM  
daphne:
OMG I need popcorn

Thanks. Really... I have been sitting here watching Lawrence O'Donnell (who, by the way is taking credit for this new development) craving something to eat. Now I need popcorn, too.
 
2017-07-27 01:23:40 AM  
And if he does that, I still give it 80% odds that the Republicans in Congress will SAY they're outraged, but do absolutely jack shiat about it.
 
2017-07-27 01:24:41 AM  

shower_in_my_socks: And if he does that, I still give it 80% odds that the Republicans in Congress will SAY they're outraged, but do absolutely jack shiat about it.


no, I think Sessions has enough markers and influence among senior Republicans to make sure Trump pays a very heavy price for a sudden firing and replacement with a blatant trump toady.
 
2017-07-27 01:26:16 AM  

LordJiro: And banking on the Democrats to NOT use it as an attack is a huge risk.


except trump has consistently and flatly refused to even consider taking steps to reassure this country that the integrity of our elections will be protected from attempts by hostile foreign powers to screw with our election results.  so how can I be sure that my vote against the GOP in 2018 is actually going to be counted?
 
2017-07-27 01:26:41 AM  

Weaver95: shower_in_my_socks: And if he does that, I still give it 80% odds that the Republicans in Congress will SAY they're outraged, but do absolutely jack shiat about it.

no, I think Sessions has enough markers and influence among senior Republicans to make sure Trump pays a very heavy price for a sudden firing and replacement with a blatant trump toady.


Yeah, we're already seeing signs that the GOP is getting sick of Trump's shiat. There'll be a tipping point, where getting rid of him will do less damage to the Party than keeping him around.
 
2017-07-27 01:27:15 AM  

Weaver95: Demetrius: Donald Trump. The only person in the world that can make me root for Jeff Session.

I despise both men, just for different reasons.


Team Giant Meteor
 
2017-07-27 01:29:32 AM  

scottydoesntknow: seilide: Who the hell is he going to replace him with? Sessions is literally the least competent person for the job in the entire country. It's an incredibly low bar to overcome. To find somebody less competent or at least, more evil, I'm thinking Trump will have to look to another species.

Well, there was speculation about Cruz...


I'm wondering if Trey Gowdy will want to lock up non-whites enough to give up his seat in Congress.
 
2017-07-27 01:30:49 AM  
The thing everyone is forgetting is you can't fire Mueller without cause.  Whoever does do it (assuming it happens, because Trump = dumb) has to go on the record and state the reason to Congress.

"My boss told me too" is not a valid reason.  So if that's the excuse, the new AG gets an obstruction charge too.  No one in their right mind is going to accept the position of AG with this in mind.  And an invented reason like "Mueller has a conflict of interest" won't help in the end.  It will only delay things.

I actually hope Sessions quit while Congress is in session (no pun intended).  Watching the D's and the sympathetic R's pull out every reason to delay confirming a replacement will be a show for the ages.
 
2017-07-27 01:31:09 AM  

LordJiro: Yeah, we're already seeing signs that the GOP is getting sick of Trump's shiat. There'll be a tipping point, where getting rid of him will do less damage to the Party than keeping him around.


Sessions has been around the Senate for a long time.  He's worked closely with all the senior GOP types, knows their lobbyists, has a ton of high level contacts around wall street....plus, jeffy boy knows how the game is played.  he's got his share of friends in high places and markers to call due if he gets stuck somewhere and needs the help.

Trump isn't ready to take on Sessions.  He doesn't have the capital, political or otherwise, to make THAT happen.  he'll lose if he tries, and don't kid yourself into believing that Sessions will just let trump walk all over him AND fire him in disgrace and just let it slide.  Jeffy boy is as much an egomaniac as trump, just better about getting things to go his way.
 
2017-07-27 01:32:37 AM  

Sharksfan: The thing everyone is forgetting is you can't fire Mueller without cause.  Whoever does do it (assuming it happens, because Trump = dumb) has to go on the record and state the reason to Congress.


as if Trump gives a flying f*ck about the excuses....he'll have his toady bounce Sessions out of office and then blow off congress's response.
 
2017-07-27 01:37:37 AM  

Weaver95: Sharksfan: The thing everyone is forgetting is you can't fire Mueller without cause.  Whoever does do it (assuming it happens, because Trump = dumb) has to go on the record and state the reason to Congress.

as if Trump gives a flying f*ck about the excuses....he'll have his toady bounce Sessions out of office and then blow off congress's response.


Yes.  There is nothing to constrain Trump unless congress gets their shiat together.  And I don't believe that will happen.  No way to Republicans turn on their guy, at least not over firing Mueller.
 
2017-07-27 01:39:30 AM  
Do it Donnie, grab him by the shortbread.  You're famous, you know you can get away with it!
 
2017-07-27 01:41:17 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: Weaver95: Sharksfan: The thing everyone is forgetting is you can't fire Mueller without cause.  Whoever does do it (assuming it happens, because Trump = dumb) has to go on the record and state the reason to Congress.

as if Trump gives a flying f*ck about the excuses....he'll have his toady bounce Sessions out of office and then blow off congress's response.

Yes.  There is nothing to constrain Trump unless congress gets their shiat together.  And I don't believe that will happen.  No way to Republicans turn on their guy, at least not over firing Mueller.


But Trump firing Mueller is a game changer - there are certain limits.  What would actually happen? I do not know, but I think a bunch of people would come around.  Enough to make a difference? I do not know...
 
2017-07-27 01:41:27 AM  
He should use underwearless tumblers to distract everyone.
 
2017-07-27 01:41:45 AM  
Could someone explain to Lil' Donnie Two Scoops the meaning of the word Democracy.

Go slow. Use small words of one syllable or less. Use drawings in crayon if necessary.

Thx.
 
2017-07-27 01:41:57 AM  

Weaver95: the strangest part of all this is what everyone is dancing around and not talking about....and that is the fact that trump is acting *incredibly* guilty and is apparently desperate to kill Mueller's investigation.  THAT is the key driving factor behind trump's push to get Sessions out.


What are you talking about?  These are clearly the actions of an innocent man.

Meanwhile everything else in the government is burning to the farking ground.
 
2017-07-27 01:43:00 AM  
So...are y'all ready for President Pence, yet?

/FLAME ON!
//Game On
 
2017-07-27 01:43:17 AM  

Sharksfan: The thing everyone is forgetting is you can't fire Mueller without cause.  Whoever does do it (assuming it happens, because Trump = dumb) has to go on the record and state the reason to Congress.


Here's how he could do it.
 
2017-07-27 01:45:47 AM  

EdwardTellerhands: Sharksfan: The thing everyone is forgetting is you can't fire Mueller without cause.  Whoever does do it (assuming it happens, because Trump = dumb) has to go on the record and state the reason to Congress.

Here's how he could do it.


Point of order. DJT is a coward and has never fired anyone. He has his underlings perform those distasteful tasks.

The only time he has ever uttered the words "you're fired" to someone's face is during his scripted "reality" show.
 
2017-07-27 01:46:41 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: There is nothing to constrain Trump unless congress gets their shiat together.  And I don't believe that will happen.


I cannot stress how wrong and misguided that view is....Jeff Sessions was a member of Congress for quite a while.  MORE than time enough to stack up some markers and favors owed to him by powerful lobbyists and/or fellow members of congress still in power.  if/when trump fires Sessions in disgrace, I very much expect Sessions to call in a few of those markers and see what sort of damage he can do to trump on his way out the door.  And if you don't think THAT will happen, then I politely suggest you don't know US politics very well.
 
2017-07-27 01:50:08 AM  

phrawgh: EdwardTellerhands: Sharksfan: The thing everyone is forgetting is you can't fire Mueller without cause.  Whoever does do it (assuming it happens, because Trump = dumb) has to go on the record and state the reason to Congress.

Here's how he could do it.

Point of order. DJT is a coward and has never fired anyone. He has his underlings perform those distasteful tasks.


Your words have the ring of truth. But it's feasible.
 
2017-07-27 01:54:38 AM  

MSBFDffpm: So...are y'all ready for President Pence, yet?

/FLAME ON!
//Game On


You think he isn't already doing the majority of the work while Trump shiat-tweets (while presumably doing a LOT of cocaine)? You can only delegate so much work to your dead-eyed children.

And Pence might be better. Hear me out; yeah he's farking evil, but I don't think he'd be able to stomach the Trump style bullshiat that has fueled this presidency so far. Trump's a snake oil showman and already an 'established liar', so he seems to get a constant pass on everything he says (for some crazy farking reason I can't understand). Pence would get farked sideways if he tried to pull those stunts, and the illusion would shatter.
 
2017-07-27 01:54:45 AM  

Weaver95: HMS_Blinkin: There is nothing to constrain Trump unless congress gets their shiat together.  And I don't believe that will happen.

I cannot stress how wrong and misguided that view is....Jeff Sessions was a member of Congress for quite a while.  MORE than time enough to stack up some markers and favors owed to him by powerful lobbyists and/or fellow members of congress still in power.  if/when trump fires Sessions in disgrace, I very much expect Sessions to call in a few of those markers and see what sort of damage he can do to trump on his way out the door.  And if you don't think THAT will happen, then I politely suggest you don't know US politics very well.


I may not know politics, but I do know that the GOP has gone out of their way to defend every idiotic thing Trump's done since he rode down that escalator.  How would it benefit them to help Sessions?  Letting the Mueller investigation continue will only make Trump and the GOP look bad, and they know it.  If they help squash the Mueller investigation they can make it all go away.  Why would they harm their own party, especially given their long history of loyalty to the GOP as an entity above all others?

Sessions may be powerful, but he's not worth more than the party as a whole.  They'll throw him under the bus to protect the party, if that's what needs to be done.
 
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