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(Politico)   Now it looks as if Republicans will be unable to pass a Defense Budget because of rules they put in place to hurt Obama. Cunning plan, guys   ( politico.com) divider line
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2017-07-24 09:55:05 PM  
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2017-07-24 10:16:48 PM  
So Trump complains that other NATO countries aren't "spending enough" and making the US pay more, then wants to spend billions more on the US military anyway?
 
2017-07-24 10:18:43 PM  
Not all Congressfolk are guys, subby
 
2017-07-24 10:36:21 PM  
Maybe the Defense Budget doesn't need to be bigger. You'd think the Party of Small Government and Fiscal Responsibility would want to scale it back some instead of growing it all the time.
 
2017-07-24 10:42:41 PM  
Hello Republicans.  Meet your petard.  Now hoist yourselves.
 
2017-07-24 11:02:26 PM  

cman: Not all Congressfolk are guys, subby


true.  some of them are smart.
 
2017-07-24 11:15:27 PM  
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2017-07-25 03:20:09 AM  
Sure, keep upping military spending while the rest of America rots from the inside, infrastructure and social programs don't do anything for the economy.
 
2017-07-25 05:56:16 AM  
I guess the Democrats just want to play obstructionist for the next 8 years.
 
2017-07-25 06:06:46 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I guess the Democrats just want to play obstructionist for the next 8 years.


How dare the Democrats not simply rubber stamp what ever the GOP wants.
 
2017-07-25 06:06:50 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I guess the Democrats just want to play obstructionist for the next 8 years.


It worked for the Repulicans.
 
2017-07-25 06:14:28 AM  

cman: Not all Congressfolk are guys, subby


guy noun

3a :  man, fellow
3b :  person -used in plural to refer to the members of a group regardless of sex
 
2017-07-25 06:15:48 AM  

Ron Vibbentrop: So Trump complains that other NATO countries aren't "spending enough" and making the US pay more, then wants to spend billions more on the US military anyway?


That's just the excuse. We all know why he's really against NATO.
 
2017-07-25 06:19:36 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I guess the Democrats just want to play obstructionist for the next 8 years.


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2017-07-25 06:22:18 AM  
What does all that money go to defend us against, anyway? Oh thats right, our new BFF, Russia.
 
2017-07-25 06:25:57 AM  

MrBallou: Maybe the Defense Budget doesn't need to be bigger. You'd think the Party of Small Government and Fiscal Responsibility would want to scale it back some instead of growing it all the time.


Those planks go out the window as long as there are brown people living on top of our oil.
 
2017-07-25 06:26:30 AM  
Is there an investment one would make if one were certain the deficit were about to skyrocket?
 
2017-07-25 06:33:32 AM  
You know, I'm starting to think that our democratically elected government has no long term plans for anything and that the continued existence of the United States is just a series of happy accidents.
 
2017-07-25 06:36:09 AM  

El Trolo: What does all that money go to defend us against, anyway? Oh thats right, our new BFF, Russia.


I thought it was CHY-na and their global warming lasers.
 
2017-07-25 06:36:27 AM  

ModernLuddite: You know, I'm starting to think that our democratically elected government has no long term plans for anything and that the continued existence of the United States is just a series of happy accidents.


Like we're winning our bracket of rock paper scissors?
 
2017-07-25 06:45:33 AM  

spongeboob: AverageAmericanGuy: I guess the Democrats just want to play obstructionist for the next 8 years.

How dare the Democrats not simply rubber stamp what ever the GOP wants.


Next you'll tell me they will pass the Republican idea for health care reform as their own.

Oh wait...
 
2017-07-25 06:55:00 AM  

El Trolo: What does all that money go to defend us against, anyway? Oh thats right, our new BFF, Russia.


No, silly. It's to defend trumplings against having to get an education or join the 20th century - they'll make guns, just like their old granpappy did.

Of course, trump himself can't probably conceive that more money thrown at defense won't help his rural plebs uh, voting base because automation. And they can't conceive it because they are the farking virgin mary of thoughts and 'daddy' trump isn't going to impregnate their ignorance with anything more than the malice towards dark strangers they already harbor.
 
2017-07-25 06:56:43 AM  

Flappyhead: El Trolo: What does all that money go to defend us against, anyway? Oh thats right, our new BFF, Russia.

I thought it was CHY-na and their global warming lasers.


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To martyr yourself to caution
Is not going to help at all
Because there'll be no safety in numbers
When the Right One walks out of the door
 
2017-07-25 06:56:53 AM  

ModernLuddite: You know, I'm starting to think that our democratically elected government has no long term plans for anything and that the continued existence of the United States is just a series of happy accidents.


Dictatorships have a "plan" for the whole country. Democratic societies have a set of working rules. And when something gets to be a problem, they use those working rules to make a law, enforce the law, and interpret the law.

It could be argued the darkest moments in history are the result of Government having a "plan." Yes, the moon shot was a result of one of those "plans." But it was less a will of the people of the United States, and more of a throwing down a gauntlet during the Cold War. Without the threat of nuclear annihilation, and the use of the race to space as a proxy for a hot war there would have been no moon landing. But the threat of nuclear death was real, and a real part of the equation.
 
2017-07-25 07:04:28 AM  
The United States currently spends more on the military than the rest of the world combined. They have a 10 to 1 advantage in aircraft carriers compared to their potential rivals, and thousands of nuclear weapons.

Apparantly this is not sufficient for the republicans, who want to spend even more. Who are they so affraid of? Are republicans just enormous pussies?
 
2017-07-25 07:29:28 AM  
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2017-07-25 07:34:42 AM  

Philonius: The United States currently spends more on the military than the rest of the world combined. They have a 10 to 1 advantage in aircraft carriers compared to their potential rivals, and thousands of nuclear weapons.

Apparantly this is not sufficient for the republicans, who want to spend even more. Who are they so affraid of? Are republicans just enormous pussies?


Fear.
Republicans are full of it. Every minute of every day. It isn't rational but it is the world they live in. They use the fear to justify their policies which when implanted cause only damage to the lower classes.
 
2017-07-25 08:07:31 AM  

Philonius: The United States currently spends more on the military than the rest of the world combined. They have a 10 to 1 advantage in aircraft carriers compared to their potential rivals, and thousands of nuclear weapons.

Apparantly this is not sufficient for the republicans, who want to spend even more. Who are they so affraid of? Are republicans just enormous pussies?


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2017-07-25 08:16:20 AM  

Philonius: The United States currently spends more on the military than the rest of the world combined. They have a 10 to 1 advantage in aircraft carriers compared to their potential rivals, and thousands of nuclear weapons.

Apparantly this is not sufficient for the republicans, who want to spend even more. Who are they so affraid of? Are republicans just enormous pussies?


That might be part of it, but they're also big fans of being able to send enormous amounts of public money to private companies.

Additionally - and this is mighty socialist of them - the MIC is one of the biggest make-work programs in history, and at the end of the day defense cuts (if not managed properly) will translate into job losses, frequently concentrated into specific localities (read: a Congressional district).
 
2017-07-25 08:24:32 AM  

darklingscribe: AverageAmericanGuy: I guess the Democrats just want to play obstructionist for the next 8 years.

It worked for the Repulicans.


If the Democrats don't support bills that they know are good for America in order to not give Trump a win, then I will turn on their strategy.  But, when you have a puppet of a foreign oligarchy in power, obstruct away.

/ I will love if Trump's first piece of legislation is sanctions against Russia
 
2017-07-25 08:29:03 AM  

Psychohazard: / I will love if Trump's first piece of legislation is sanctions against Russia


Bad news: Trump has signed 40 bills into law.
 
2017-07-25 09:13:16 AM  

ModernLuddite: You know, I'm starting to think that our democratically elected government has no long term plans for anything and that the continued existence of the United States is just a series of happy accidents.


Oh, I'm sure of that.
 
2017-07-25 09:40:38 AM  

eldritch2k4: Psychohazard: / I will love if Trump's first piece of legislation is sanctions against Russia

Bad news: Trump has signed 40 bills into law.


Yeah, but it's all run of the mill crap. None of it is major, let alone signature.
 
2017-07-25 09:43:59 AM  
Typical, so typical.

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2017-07-25 10:08:58 AM  

Boo_Guy: Sure, keep upping military spending while the rest of America rots from the inside, infrastructure and social programs don't do anything for the economy.


I am always told when I say something like this that the Founding Fathers PBUT wrote a constitution that set up a government consisting only of a military and a post office, meant to be supported by apparently voluntary contributions from the Militia, which consists of all adults in the country.
 
2017-07-25 10:12:39 AM  
They care about rules?
 
2017-07-25 10:28:58 AM  
Feinstein has a good point -- the president is a Russian intelligence asset and part of a billion dollar money laundering program. Every cabinet member is compromised in some way, and have committed felonies. There is no justification for enabling any decision by the administration until these serious charges of espionage and racketeering are settled.

Proof that the GOP agrees: the bill they're passing to prevent the president from lifting sanctions against Russia.
 
2017-07-25 11:05:36 AM  

cman: Not all Congressfolk are guys, subby


There is no neutral gender in the English language, as there is in German for example. It's not Subby's fault that "guys" is the wrong word to use; there is no right word, and "guys" is the closest to correct that English will allow.
 
2017-07-25 12:15:58 PM  

bigfatbuddhist: Is there an investment one would make if one were certain the deficit were about to skyrocket?


Well, there's a conundrum for you.
If you expect interest rates to rise due to inflationary pressure, certain investments suggest themselves.
If you expect the dollar to tank, another set of investments applies.
If you anticipate Great Depression II, other investments apply.
If you expect civilization to collapse, party like there's no tomorrow, or invest in the tools and skills you need to survive the aftermath (hanging out with Mennonites should have a more stable and far less risky ROI than trying to be a warlord).
Now choose, and choose well.
 
2017-07-25 12:20:58 PM  

Koodz: Boo_Guy: Sure, keep upping military spending while the rest of America rots from the inside, infrastructure and social programs don't do anything for the economy.

I am always told when I say something like this that the Founding Fathers PBUT wrote a constitution that set up a government consisting only of a military and a post office, meant to be supported by apparently voluntary contributions from the Militia, which consists of all adults in the country.


NB The Articles of Confederation were an abject failure, which is why those same Founders implemented a Constitution that established powerful central government.

/TMYK
//Political creationists are farking delusional morons.
 
2017-07-25 12:30:02 PM  

Ron Vibbentrop: So Trump complains that other NATO countries aren't "spending enough" and making the US pay more, then wants to spend billions more on the US military anyway?


Yes, because his anti-NATO talking points are just him parroting what Putin wants him to say.

The ever-increasing Defense budget in the US is a mix of the GOP's jingoistic pride, and constant pandering to defense contractors.
 
2017-07-25 12:32:21 PM  

eldritch2k4: Psychohazard: / I will love if Trump's first piece of legislation is sanctions against Russia

Bad news: Trump has signed 40 bills into law.


Oh yes, bills about naming someone to the board of the Smithsonian, or naming post offices and Federal buildings.

He hasn't signed any actual substantive, major pieces of legislation, just routine procedural stuff.
 
2017-07-25 12:48:37 PM  

Silverstaff: eldritch2k4: Psychohazard: / I will love if Trump's first piece of legislation is sanctions against Russia

Bad news: Trump has signed 40 bills into law.

Oh yes, bills about naming someone to the board of the Smithsonian, or naming post offices and Federal buildings.

He hasn't signed any actual substantive, major pieces of legislation, just routine procedural stuff.


Personally, I consider the the repeal of Net Neutrality rules to be major legislation.

You might want to double check that list, since it is more than just Post Offices.
 
2017-07-25 12:59:20 PM  

eldritch2k4: Silverstaff: eldritch2k4: Psychohazard: / I will love if Trump's first piece of legislation is sanctions against Russia

Bad news: Trump has signed 40 bills into law.

Oh yes, bills about naming someone to the board of the Smithsonian, or naming post offices and Federal buildings.

He hasn't signed any actual substantive, major pieces of legislation, just routine procedural stuff.

Personally, I consider the the repeal of Net Neutrality rules to be major legislation.

You might want to double check that list, since it is more than just Post Offices.


Uh, that's not legislation, that's an FCC regulation passed by the FCC board of directors.
 
2017-07-25 01:05:30 PM  

Silverstaff: eldritch2k4: Silverstaff: eldritch2k4: Psychohazard: / I will love if Trump's first piece of legislation is sanctions against Russia

Bad news: Trump has signed 40 bills into law.

Oh yes, bills about naming someone to the board of the Smithsonian, or naming post offices and Federal buildings.

He hasn't signed any actual substantive, major pieces of legislation, just routine procedural stuff.

Personally, I consider the the repeal of Net Neutrality rules to be major legislation.

You might want to double check that list, since it is more than just Post Offices.

Uh, that's not legislation, that's an FCC regulation passed by the FCC board of directors.


I had no idea the FCC could pass Senate Resolutions.
 
2017-07-25 01:25:18 PM  

eldritch2k4: Silverstaff: eldritch2k4: Silverstaff: eldritch2k4: Psychohazard: / I will love if Trump's first piece of legislation is sanctions against Russia

Bad news: Trump has signed 40 bills into law.

Oh yes, bills about naming someone to the board of the Smithsonian, or naming post offices and Federal buildings.

He hasn't signed any actual substantive, major pieces of legislation, just routine procedural stuff.

Personally, I consider the the repeal of Net Neutrality rules to be major legislation.

You might want to double check that list, since it is more than just Post Offices.

Uh, that's not legislation, that's an FCC regulation passed by the FCC board of directors.

I had no idea the FCC could pass Senate Resolutions.


A resolution overturning a regulation in the lookback period isn't really "legislation", it's repealing a regulation..

Actual legislation in the sense of both houses of Congress passing a bill and the POTUS signing it into law has been very rare with #45, and ones that aren't routine, procedural legislation like naming post offices are nonexistent.

All his various "legislation" are either executive orders, or repealing regulations. . .neither one is actual legislation.
 
2017-07-25 01:43:05 PM  

King Something: cman: Not all Congressfolk are guys, subby

There is no neutral gender in the English language, as there is in German for example. It's not Subby's fault that "guys" is the wrong word to use; there is no right word, and "guys" is the closest to correct that English will allow.


There are a few neutral words. Like "people". Or "folks". Hell, even "everybody" works. "Y'all" is presently my favorite.
 
2017-07-25 05:58:12 PM  
Still Obama's fault
 
2017-07-25 10:27:19 PM  

King Something: cman: Not all Congressfolk are guys, subby

There is no neutral gender in the English language, as there is in German for example. It's not Subby's fault that "guys" is the wrong word to use; there is no right word, and "guys" is the closest to correct that English will allow.


Some people use "guys" even for a group of all girls, and have for years. It's not wrong; it's how English is spoken.
 
2017-07-25 10:32:42 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: bigfatbuddhist: Is there an investment one would make if one were certain the deficit were about to skyrocket?

Well, there's a conundrum for you.
If you expect interest rates to rise due to inflationary pressure, certain investments suggest themselves.
If you expect the dollar to tank, another set of investments applies.
If you anticipate Great Depression II, other investments apply.
If you expect civilization to collapse, party like there's no tomorrow, or invest in the tools and skills you need to survive the aftermath (hanging out with Mennonites should have a more stable and far less risky ROI than trying to be a warlord).
Now choose, and choose well.


You could reason by analogy with Chinese people who don't trust their government - they buy overseas real estate, so...

I am inclined to choose foreign small cap stocks, because they are least connected to the US economy.
 
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