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2017-07-20 06:54:39 PM  
This is news?

/no it's Fark.com...
 
2017-07-20 07:19:41 PM  
"The solution proposed to protect U.S. power in this new "post-primacy" environment is, however, more of the same: more surveillance, more propaganda ("strategic manipulation of perceptions") and more military expansionism. "

What a shock.
 
2017-07-20 07:53:15 PM  
Translation: Give us more money.
 
2017-07-20 08:20:21 PM  
Brought to you by Lockheed....
 
2017-07-20 08:23:15 PM  
The truth is that we ARE in collapse with respect to our seven-decade imperial hegemony.  The root of the problem, in my opinion, is that the character and culture of the American people is completely incompatible with the type of strategy required to maintain the global dominance we expect.

Our national response to our NATO allies? "Fark you, pay me."
Our national response to the threat of climate change? "Chinese hoax!"
Our national response to the mess in the middle east? "Mooslims bad, protect Israel for the second coming!"
Our national response to an overt attack on our elections? "The Democrats are to blame!"

To all of our real threats our response isn't one of contemplation within the reality-space, but rather to retreat into a willfully ignorant isolationism because we're just so goddamned exceptional.  Over the past several decades we've fed off of the seed corn of our prior achievements instead of thinking farther ahead than the next election cycle.  We've allowed ourselves to become drunk on rigid ideologies as we have eschewed critical thought. We have already ceded the future to those who have a long view.

But by all means, let's just keep doing what we're doing because lowering taxes while shoveling cash into failed defense programs at an accelerated rate will make America great again because Jesus.
 
2017-07-20 08:32:51 PM  
And don't get me started on the military itself.  We've become a petri dish for social engineering and a refuge for the sick, lame and lazy.  Weapons aside, we simply do not have the critical mass of go-getters in the military or society (who would leave a life of comfort to fight for a greater cause) like we did in WWII to come close to achieving victory in any major state-on-state war.

So what's our solution?  Erode healthcare and begin the process of privatizing military pensions.

Yeah, that'll work without a draft.

Draft you say?  HA!  good farking luck getting the USA of 2017 to accept conscription, no matter how grave the threat to the country.
 
2017-07-20 08:34:31 PM  
Ezri Dax explains her views on the Klingon Empire to Worf
Youtube sfNe2uv-bHs
 
2017-07-20 08:53:00 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: [iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/sfNe2uv-bHs - 480x360]


I didn't want to like her, but she was good.
She's right, to a degree. Our nation - just like those empires of the ancient and recent past - relied on the perceptions of themselves and others for their power. Bush Jr deeply eroded our nation with 2 unwinnable wars- one which was a sham from the start. So internationally we are shown as "Not Invincible" militarily.

Domestically, we began eroding our views of the Government that we worked with in the 30s and 40s and 50s to ensure a powerful internal union of people. Suddenly the Middle Class is eroding and no one is doing much about it. This has continued for decades. One of our biggest mistakes ever was not punishing Nixon. That single f*ck up has led to the mess we are in right now. Bush Jr should have been punished for his lies and deceit for Iraq. That he walked away only gave fuel to what became Trump. And Trump lacks subtlety and nuance needed to run the type of economic and military super power that we are. Who fears him? No one. Why should anyone listen to the US anymore?

If anything, this is exactly what Trump voters wanted. Less involvement in the world and less leadership beyond our borders. But Germany used Lenin to overthrow Russia and take it out of WWI. Such a small thing- a few men with money and support from a smaller nation. A nation that could never match the power and raw military prowess of the great Russian Empire. One that was seen as invincible. So invincible that Germany just had to knock France out first (or try to) in order to tackle it. The armies failed, but one man succeeded.
 
2017-07-20 09:01:18 PM  

doyner: Draft you say?  HA!  good farking luck getting the USA of 2017 to accept conscription, no matter how grave the threat to the country.


Our major enemies appear to all be centered in and around Washington D.C.
 
2017-07-20 09:29:24 PM  
Soft power is collapsing with every wheeze from Donald Trump's bloated body.

But this 'study' is just grubbing for more money and stuff.
 
2017-07-20 09:29:46 PM  
The downfall of every large superpower has been trying to control the entire world.
 
2017-07-20 09:29:47 PM  

postnobills: This is news?

/no it's Fark.com...


No. But it's disappointing in the very least to my generation, who saw it coming and couldn't do much about it. I'm right in the middle of Gen-X. We grew up in and enjoyed the privilege of the excesses of the 80s. It was a great time to be a kid.

Then we went to school when it was still affordable and learned one or two things. I was lucky enough to leave this country for a couple years and put some things in perspective. What we (collectively) are doing is not sustainable. There is a breaking point, no matter how much you want to believe in the contrary.
 
2017-07-20 09:31:02 PM  
Like a flan in the cupboard
 
2017-07-20 09:33:50 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: [iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/sfNe2uv-bHs - 480x360]


Wasn't a huge fan of Ezri, but damn that was a good call.

/I wouldn't take that study too seriously.
 
2017-07-20 09:35:16 PM  

doyner: The truth is that we ARE in collapse with respect to our seven-decade imperial hegemony.  The root of the problem, in my opinion, is that the character and culture of the American people is completely incompatible with the type of strategy required to maintain the global dominance we expect.

Our national response to our NATO allies? "Fark you, pay me."
Our national response to the threat of climate change? "Chinese hoax!"
Our national response to the mess in the middle east? "Mooslims bad, protect Israel for the second coming!"
Our national response to an overt attack on our elections? "The Democrats are to blame!"

To all of our real threats our response isn't one of contemplation within the reality-space, but rather to retreat into a willfully ignorant isolationism because we're just so goddamned exceptional.  Over the past several decades we've fed off of the seed corn of our prior achievements instead of thinking farther ahead than the next election cycle.  We've allowed ourselves to become drunk on rigid ideologies as we have eschewed critical thought. We have already ceded the future to those who have a long view.

But by all means, let's just keep doing what we're doing because lowering taxes while shoveling cash into failed defense programs at an accelerated rate will make America great again because Jesus.


You seem like you're smart and then you just ring that rigid ideological bell.
 
2017-07-20 09:35:25 PM  

doyner: Our national response to our NATO allies? "Fark you, pay me."


More like "Hey, we've been paying the bills for a few decades, how about coughing up the part you agreed to pay?"
 
2017-07-20 09:35:26 PM  
So should I buy gold and freeze dried meat, or should I start flipping houses?
 
2017-07-20 09:35:46 PM  
Not really news. It is an ongoing process which started with the rebuiliding of Europe, Japan and much of the world since the late 1940s.

The US was Top Dog by default. True, it went from a crap navy to the world's biggest navy, but hey, Canada was fourth by the end of the war, and that was largely because the Allies and the Axis powers sank all the other navies, not because we did such a great job building new navies. Although we did. The industrialization of Canada is attributed to World War II, just as the maturing independence of Canada and its emergence as a confident middle power is attributed to World War I. The 1931 Westminister Act proved that Canada could stand up to Mother by making some fairly hard terms on trade, even if the BNA Act was still in a drawer in White Hall at the time.

No, the Decline of the American Empire has been anticipated (somewhat prematurely much of the time) and is not really great big news. But Trump and Trumpery, plus the moral and political decline of the Goopers, has hastened an event which need not have happened before 2045, when America ceases to be a majority white Anglo-European colony. Which need not have happened even if a virus were to wipe out all white people and leave only the brown and mixed raced people.

America was a great nation state with a quarter of its current population, and it could remain a great nation state with a population less than Japan. Especially since much of Japan and Europe will see a massive population decline over the next century. Even the rising powers and developing nations will see their populations age and peak.

No, the only reason why decline is in America's future is Goopers and Sturmtroppers and Trumpery and Trump. Where courage, honesty, truthfulness and respect decline, poltics and economics follow.

No courage, no risk, no future. I say this as a bit of a physical and possibly intellectual or moral coward. I am ready to embrace the truth, but I fear I might not always have the courage to act on it without backing.
 
2017-07-20 09:37:25 PM  

DubtodaIll: You seem like you're smart and then you just ring that rigid ideological bell.


I seem like a lot of things.  Is opposition to an ideology itself an ideology?
 
2017-07-20 09:38:03 PM  
We're about due for the Fourth American Republic anyway, assuming such dividing up into "Nth Republic" eras are actually a thing. Perhaps it might even turn into one where we are more concerned with helping the poorest citizens inside of enabling the wealthiest. Well, one can hope anyway.
 
2017-07-20 09:38:22 PM  

doyner: DubtodaIll: You seem like you're smart and then you just ring that rigid ideological bell.

I seem like a lot of things.  Is opposition to an ideology itself an ideology?


No but stereotypical dismissive generalizations are only good for a laugh.
 
2017-07-20 09:38:52 PM  

cirby: doyner: Our national response to our NATO allies? "Fark you, pay me."

More like "Hey, we've been paying the bills for a few decades, how about coughing up the part you agreed to pay?"


Yeah, but under threat of dismantling the alliance is like aiming a shotgun at a mosquito resting on your knee.
 
2017-07-20 09:41:57 PM  

whither_apophis: Like a flan in the cupboard


...these are the days of our lives...
 
2017-07-20 09:42:27 PM  
I have often explained Canadian history in terms of national allegeances. We were French under the Sun King, British under Good Queen Vic, Empress of a quarter of the world, Americanized under Eisenhower and Kennedy, and now what?

Who are the new Masters of the Universe, the new Empire? Who will be?

I suspect we are entering a multi-polar world without one single Empire or nation able to offer leadership to us all.

This is not an original Brantgoose Theory. It is very probable and well-known already. It is also risky. A Pax Americana was not perfect. Americans are not good imperialists. They don't like foreign things much more than the English or the French. They have not established courts and schools and churches and hospitals on a sufficiently imperial scale to be the Masters of the World as well as of the Universe. True, the US has military camps everywhere in sufficient quantity to be a serious threat to anybody else who wants to rule the world.

But they (you) don't have the tastes and the unmitigated conservative arrogance to rule the world without a Loyal Liberal opposition to His Majesty and even to Congress.

Your gods are many. Your State is Not One of Them, except for a few, a very few, even in the parties of Opposition.

So where does Canada go? Perhaps we will have to leave home and grow up. Leave the light on.
 
2017-07-20 09:42:42 PM  

ajgeek: Bith Set Me Up: [iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/sfNe2uv-bHs - 480x360]

Wasn't a huge fan of Ezri, but damn that was a good call.

/I wouldn't take that study too seriously.


This scene was actually why I like Ezri more than Jadzia.

As a Trill symbiote, I'd imagine they'd have centuries of wisdom worth sharing. Jadzia didn't do that much. It's hard to say whether it was the writers' fault, Terry Farrell's fault, or something else entirely.

Nadie_AZ: Bith Set Me Up: [iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/sfNe2uv-bHs - 480x360]

I didn't want to like her, but she was good.
She's right, to a degree. Our nation - just like those empires of the ancient and recent past - relied on the perceptions of themselves and others for their power. Bush Jr deeply eroded our nation with 2 unwinnable wars- one which was a sham from the start. So internationally we are shown as "Not Invincible" militarily.

Domestically, we began eroding our views of the Government that we worked with in the 30s and 40s and 50s to ensure a powerful internal union of people. Suddenly the Middle Class is eroding and no one is doing much about it. This has continued for decades. One of our biggest mistakes ever was not punishing Nixon. That single f*ck up has led to the mess we are in right now. Bush Jr should have been punished for his lies and deceit for Iraq. That he walked away only gave fuel to what became Trump. And Trump lacks subtlety and nuance needed to run the type of economic and military super power that we are. Who fears him? No one. Why should anyone listen to the US anymore?

If anything, this is exactly what Trump voters wanted. Less involvement in the world and less leadership beyond our borders. But Germany used Lenin to overthrow Russia and take it out of WWI. Such a small thing- a few men with money and support from a smaller nation. A nation that could never match the power and raw military prowess of the great Russian Empire. One that was seen as invincible. So invincible that Germany just had to knock France out first (or try to) in order to tackle it. The armies failed, but one man succeeded.


This scene's truly about our own inadvertent complicity with shiatty/unscrupulous politicians. How often have we urged people to "support the lesser of two evils" only to watch the "greatest" evil not just survive, but become "greater" than ever?
 
2017-07-20 09:43:24 PM  
Now I haz a sad. A Post American Empire sad. Not a terrible deep sad. I expect I will get over it or die trying.
 
2017-07-20 09:44:27 PM  
Yeah, we should've never abdicated our global responsibility to the world by invading Iraq on false pretenses unilaterally.

That was when we jumped right off the cliff, right then.

Terrorists won.
 
2017-07-20 09:45:05 PM  

DubtodaIll: doyner: DubtodaIll: You seem like you're smart and then you just ring that rigid ideological bell.

I seem like a lot of things.  Is opposition to an ideology itself an ideology?

No but stereotypical dismissive generalizations are only good for a laugh.


Pleased to amuse you then.  It's just an opinion, but the thesis isn't that "Trump bad."  That's a given.  The point is that a populace that would elect him is ill-equipped to handle the threats of the 21st century.

It doesn't really matter who the hell would have won last year in this respect: The nation that produces the kind of "leadership" we have today has already passed the point of no return.  We simply don't value a broad understanding of the world enough to come close to figuring out to operate within it.

So now we've gotten your disapproval out of the way, what's your view?
 
2017-07-20 09:47:31 PM  
Well sure, we have the Naranja Nero playing his russian fiddle on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial while freedom itself burns to the ground.
 
2017-07-20 09:48:29 PM  
Thanks Obama!
 
2017-07-20 09:49:12 PM  
Thanks Trump™
 
2017-07-20 09:50:25 PM  
We had a whole department who's job it was to maintained and enhance US influence abroad but Trump fired everyone.
 
2017-07-20 09:51:52 PM  
Fine.  Whatever.  Good luck to China or whomever has the ambition to be the next world supercop.  We sucked at it, but I doubt you'll be any better and trust us, it's a totally thankless job.

As to the rest of the world.  Good luck.  And we know a big chunk of you were hoping and praying for our demise, so both good luck and f--k you.
 
2017-07-20 09:54:08 PM  

doyner: The truth is that we ARE in collapse with respect to our seven-decade imperial hegemony.  The root of the problem, in my opinion, is that the character and culture of the American people is completely incompatible with the type of strategy required to maintain the global dominance we expect.

Our national response to our NATO allies? "Fark you, pay me."
Our national response to the threat of climate change? "Chinese hoax!"
Our national response to the mess in the middle east? "Mooslims bad, protect Israel for the second coming!"
Our national response to an overt attack on our elections? "The Democrats are to blame!"

To all of our real threats our response isn't one of contemplation within the reality-space, but rather to retreat into a willfully ignorant isolationism because we're just so goddamned exceptional.  Over the past several decades we've fed off of the seed corn of our prior achievements instead of thinking farther ahead than the next election cycle.  We've allowed ourselves to become drunk on rigid ideologies as we have eschewed critical thought. We have already ceded the future to those who have a long view.

But by all means, let's just keep doing what we're doing because lowering taxes while shoveling cash into failed defense programs at an accelerated rate will make America great again because Jesus.


Uh no.
You're looking at the past 6 months, not the past 60+ years since WW2.
The U.S. will ALWAYS have a challenger. Europe and the UK have just been nice enough to play second fiddle all these years and that's over with. Dumpy is certainly accelerating the timeline, but he's not causing it.
 
2017-07-20 09:54:55 PM  
Wouldn't another world war fix everything?
 
2017-07-20 09:55:14 PM  

brantgoose: I have often explained Canadian history in terms of national allegeances. We were French under the Sun King, British under Good Queen Vic, Empress of a quarter of the world, Americanized under Eisenhower and Kennedy, and now what?

Who are the new Masters of the Universe, the new Empire? Who will be?


Multinational corporations and the oligarchs that control them.
 
2017-07-20 09:55:57 PM  
I think the new leader of the world will be China. They play the long game and they don't fear Drumpf. And by extension, neither does North Korea.

It remains to be seen whether Russia will return to prominence since Drumpf is willing to bend the knee and kiss Putin's boot.
 
2017-07-20 09:57:40 PM  
It's said on here constantly but Trump is a symptom, not the disease. Trump is the equivalent of the 60 year smoker who has recently lost 50 pounds and coughed up a little blood the other day.
 
2017-07-20 09:58:18 PM  

abhorrent1: Wouldn't another world war fix everything?


Username checks out.
 
2017-07-20 10:01:14 PM  

Krieghund: brantgoose: I have often explained Canadian history in terms of national allegeances. We were French under the Sun King, British under Good Queen Vic, Empress of a quarter of the world, Americanized under Eisenhower and Kennedy, and now what?

Who are the new Masters of the Universe, the new Empire? Who will be?


Multinational corporations and the oligarchs that control them.


Hurrah for Nero-feudalism and kleptocracy.
 
2017-07-20 10:04:20 PM  

doyner: DubtodaIll: doyner: DubtodaIll: You seem like you're smart and then you just ring that rigid ideological bell.

I seem like a lot of things.  Is opposition to an ideology itself an ideology?

No but stereotypical dismissive generalizations are only good for a laugh.

Pleased to amuse you then.  It's just an opinion, but the thesis isn't that "Trump bad."  That's a given.  The point is that a populace that would elect him is ill-equipped to handle the threats of the 21st century.

It doesn't really matter who the hell would have won last year in this respect: The nation that produces the kind of "leadership" we have today has already passed the point of no return.  We simply don't value a broad understanding of the world enough to come close to figuring out to operate within it.

So now we've gotten your disapproval out of the way, what's your view?


Trump voters were mostly a mixed bag who saw Clinton as a continuation of the same bullshiat they'd been getting dumped on them and they saw Trump as a brand new kind of bullshiat.  Some Trumpers saw him as a risk and are of the mindset that the country has gotten soft and needed a good kick in the ass.  Some Trumpers just hated Hillary Clinton personally.  Some Trumpers are genuine anti-immigrant racists.  Some Trumpers did it for the lols.  But I would posit that the vast majority of Trumpers were the people who hadn't been listened to or addressed by the core culture for going on fifty years and they were just tired of it.  Along came Trump and spoke right to them, sold them the show.
Personally I think the only way we can get out of this mess is to just dump the parties somehow.  I haven't heard either party say a damn thing about what they actually want to do to make things better other than "we're going to fix it."  Hell they never even list an actually problem other than "this is broken."  All they ever talk about is how bad the other guy is.  There hasn't been one good idea to come out of D.C. or even an honest national debate for decades.
Now all we get is news anchors reading tweets on national tevelvision like they're somehow indicative of valid opinions on a given topic.  Not least of which is the Big Cheeto himself fueling that particular dumpster fire.
And really that's clearly been Trump's, or whomever is behind Trump, plan from the rip on his campaign.  To at least destroy the GOP (and if the DNC dies too then ok) because they've really done jack-all but disappoint their own party who inexplicably keeps winning them elections.  There's apparently an extremely powerful and easily led towards red voting block in this country that at their core believe in kinda good things like hard work and responsibility.  So if you can get rid of the GOP's mantra of "always suck the richest dick" and go with "Lord loves a working man" then you could maybe actually accomplish something with all these riches that America has just been squandering on yachts or whatever else.
Somehow we're managing to go through 5-7 TRILLION dollars a year and not have much collectively to actually be proud of as a nation, and that's what needs to change.   Everything is spun to the nth subjective bullshiat line to make you feel better about your side or whatever.
It's the same tune it's always been, the rich v the not rich.  Distract the masses with every conceivable bell and whistle and they'll keep shelling out the cash and not ask the right questions.
On the thread topic, the Pentagon has never even been audited and at the rate they're supposedly trying to get together to actually do that it's likely it will never happen and by the time it happens it'll just be juiced anyway.  Why we continue to write them blank checks I'll never know.
 
2017-07-20 10:04:33 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: ajgeek: Bith Set Me Up: [iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/sfNe2uv-bHs - 480x360]

Wasn't a huge fan of Ezri, but damn that was a good call.

/I wouldn't take that study too seriously.

This scene was actually why I like Ezri more than Jadzia.

As a Trill symbiote, I'd imagine they'd have centuries of wisdom worth sharing. Jadzia didn't do that much. It's hard to say whether it was the writers' fault, Terry Farrell's fault, or something else entirely.

Nadie_AZ: Bith Set Me Up: [iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/sfNe2uv-bHs - 480x360]

I didn't want to like her, but she was good.
She's right, to a degree. Our nation - just like those empires of the ancient and recent past - relied on the perceptions of themselves and others for their power. Bush Jr deeply eroded our nation with 2 unwinnable wars- one which was a sham from the start. So internationally we are shown as "Not Invincible" militarily.

Domestically, we began eroding our views of the Government that we worked with in the 30s and 40s and 50s to ensure a powerful internal union of people. Suddenly the Middle Class is eroding and no one is doing much about it. This has continued for decades. One of our biggest mistakes ever was not punishing Nixon. That single f*ck up has led to the mess we are in right now. Bush Jr should have been punished for his lies and deceit for Iraq. That he walked away only gave fuel to what became Trump. And Trump lacks subtlety and nuance needed to run the type of economic and military super power that we are. Who fears him? No one. Why should anyone listen to the US anymore?

If anything, this is exactly what Trump voters wanted. Less involvement in the world and less leadership beyond our borders. But Germany used Lenin to overthrow Russia and take it out of WWI. Such a small thing- a few men with money and support from a smaller nation. A nation that could never match the power and raw military prowess of the great Russian Empire. One that was seen as invincible. So invinc ...


I genuinely can't see Terry Farrell without thinking of her in Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth.

(Potentially NSFW language/Pinhead):
Hellraiser III - Hell on Earth has a high opinion of organized religion
Youtube _lVFQKDxWJ4
 
2017-07-20 10:04:43 PM  
Shipping off the factories, steel mills and tech labs to help PE firm honchos make a quick buck to China, our most obvious military and economic challenger, as well as lesser economic challengers like India and South Korea, had negative externalities, like being unable to afford the boomsticks without borrowing from, er, China?  Who possibly could have foreseen this?
 
2017-07-20 10:05:11 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: [iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/sfNe2uv-bHs - 480x360]


"Related video: Worf kills Gowron"

Oh gee thanks for the farking spoiler warning YouTube.

Although if it's been twenty years since I was going to get around to watching the rest of a series, I probably wasn't going to get around to it ever.
 
2017-07-20 10:06:01 PM  

doyner: The truth is that we ARE in collapse with respect to our seven-decade imperial hegemony.  The root of the problem, in my opinion, is that the character and culture of the American people is completely incompatible with the type of strategy required to maintain the global dominance we expect.

Our national response to our NATO allies? "Fark you, pay me."
Our national response to the threat of climate change? "Chinese hoax!"
Our national response to the mess in the middle east? "Mooslims bad, protect Israel for the second coming!"
Our national response to an overt attack on our elections? "The Democrats are to blame!"

To all of our real threats our response isn't one of contemplation within the reality-space, but rather to retreat into a willfully ignorant isolationism because we're just so goddamned exceptional.  Over the past several decades we've fed off of the seed corn of our prior achievements instead of thinking farther ahead than the next election cycle.  We've allowed ourselves to become drunk on rigid ideologies as we have eschewed critical thought. We have already ceded the future to those who have a long view.

But by all means, let's just keep doing what we're doing because lowering taxes while shoveling cash into failed defense programs at an accelerated rate will make America great again because Jesus.


Interesting summary, a friend wrote his PhD on exactly this.
 
2017-07-20 10:07:14 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Bith Set Me Up: [iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/sfNe2uv-bHs - 480x360]

I didn't want to like her, but she was good.


Many teenage acts of spermicide were committed in honor of Ezri.

/what, should i have not admitted that in public? fark you, i bet you know what it was like to be a teenager
 
2017-07-20 10:09:47 PM  
Russia is stirring our elections. It's a country with 1/10 the GDP of the US.

We're done as a superpower.
 
2017-07-20 10:10:08 PM  

SirEattonHogg: Fine.  Whatever.  Good luck to China or whomever has the ambition to be the next world supercop.  We sucked at it, but I doubt you'll be any better and trust us, it's a totally thankless job.


Um, you'd be a bit closer going with something like Nicholas Cage in bad lieutenant.

As to the rest of the world.  Good luck.  And we know a big chunk of you were hoping and praying for our demise, so both good luck and f--k you.

haha, good luck and f--k you too, buddy!

img.fark.net
 
2017-07-20 10:12:25 PM  

brantgoose: I have often explained Canadian history in terms of national allegeances. We were French under the Sun King, British under Good Queen Vic, Empress of a quarter of the world, Americanized under Eisenhower and Kennedy, and now what?

Who are the new Masters of the Universe, the new Empire? Who will be?

I suspect we are entering a multi-polar world without one single Empire or nation able to offer leadership to us all.

This is not an original Brantgoose Theory. It is very probable and well-known already. It is also risky. A Pax Americana was not perfect. Americans are not good imperialists. They don't like foreign things much more than the English or the French. They have not established courts and schools and churches and hospitals on a sufficiently imperial scale to be the Masters of the World as well as of the Universe. True, the US has military camps everywhere in sufficient quantity to be a serious threat to anybody else who wants to rule the world.

But they (you) don't have the tastes and the unmitigated conservative arrogance to rule the world without a Loyal Liberal opposition to His Majesty and even to Congress.

Your gods are many. Your State is Not One of Them, except for a few, a very few, even in the parties of Opposition.

So where does Canada go? Perhaps we will have to leave home and grow up. Leave the light on.


Canada doesn't go anywhere.  Canada takes over the States in the most polite invasion ever.
 
2017-07-20 10:13:17 PM  
Is this where we get all those reports about one of the most well funded military in history being underfunded?
 
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