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2017-07-19 01:50:47 PM  
rounding up immigrants seems to be the only thing this admin can accomplish
i wonder how long the ice agents will go without pay though
 
2017-07-19 02:01:29 PM  
Kristallnacht to begin in 3...2...
 
2017-07-19 02:10:26 PM  
STATE'S RIGHTS!!!
LOCAL GOVERNMENT!!!
 
2017-07-19 02:11:38 PM  
Business people already hate the effect this has on their cheap labor pool.  There's going to be some push back.
 
2017-07-19 02:20:32 PM  
Why are Fox News, Breitbart and WND the only media outlets reporting this?
 
2017-07-19 02:23:24 PM  
So about 27 million latinos can vote.  Maybe about 30% vote Republican.  Maybe less.  Let's say 10 million vote straight republican.

These are 10 million votes the Republicans can lose.  How many legitimate voters do they lose for every person they deport that can't vote.  F$cking stupid strategy.
 
2017-07-19 02:23:48 PM  
So, they're going to hire enough stormtroopers to do their f*cking jobs, which is the only thing that was ever stopping them?
 
2017-07-19 02:34:42 PM  
abolish ICE
 
2017-07-19 02:39:19 PM  
Some facts from SPLC on Sanctuary Cities might be helpful. Who would have ever guessed that this administration would spread misinformation?
 
2017-07-19 02:40:12 PM  
Get out your Ankh.
 
2017-07-19 03:06:33 PM  
I always thought sanctuary cities were cities thay wouldn't report you if you reported a crime. No one should be afraid to call the cops because they might get deported. It has somehow been transformed into 'we wont identify illegals who are felonious'. I don't get it.
 
2017-07-19 03:07:50 PM  

PreMortem: I always thought sanctuary cities were cities thay wouldn't report you if you reported a crime. No one should be afraid to call the cops because they might get deported. It has somehow been transformed into 'we wont identify illegals who are felonious'. I don't get it.


*Not sure if felonious is a word. Also, typo.
 
2017-07-19 03:20:36 PM  
Crackdown on what? Cities not doing their jobs for them?
 
2017-07-19 03:20:36 PM  
Can't get those kickbacks on private prisons without filling 'em up with poor folks first, can you?
Trump has a responsibility to take care of those shareholders.
 
2017-07-19 03:21:48 PM  

Prey4reign: Why are Fox News, Breitbart and WND the only media outlets reporting this?


img.fark.net
 
2017-07-19 03:22:56 PM  

mrshowrules: So about 27 million latinos can vote.  Maybe about 30% vote Republican.  Maybe less.  Let's say 10 million vote straight republican.

These are 10 million votes the Republicans can lose.  How many legitimate voters do they lose for every person they deport that can't vote.  F$cking stupid strategy.


And now you know why they're doing this crackdown: To deport them before they have a chance to vote again. No, being citizens won't protect them from being deported. Legally, it should, but the law doesn't apply to this administration.
 
2017-07-19 03:23:35 PM  
I'm sure part of the preparations involve training the ICE officers to respect the civil and legal rights of those they detain and to treat them with dignity and respect, righr?
 
2017-07-19 03:23:47 PM  
I suspect this is also BS.

Border crossings were already way down under the Obama administration. Also Obama deported more people during his 8 years compared to just about everyone. Not that this should be a claim to fame but it seems that once again this propaganda is BS.

SO when Obama was deporting people in record numbers these ICE agents had no meanings to their jobs but now they do ?
 
2017-07-19 03:23:51 PM  

PreMortem: I always thought sanctuary cities were cities thay wouldn't report you if you reported a crime. No one should be afraid to call the cops because they might get deported. It has somehow been transformed into 'we wont identify illegals who are felonious'. I don't get it.


It's also "were not going to do ICE's job for them or start demanding proof of citizenship from every hispanic person the local police detain", to paraphrase.
 
2017-07-19 03:23:58 PM  
"You can like President Trump, not like him, like his policies, not like his policies, but one thing no one can argue with is the effect they've had,"

This is true.  He's made USA a much less desirable place to move to.  MAGA!
 
2017-07-19 03:25:28 PM  
"You'd think everybody would be celebrating these policies,"

Well, that might be true if one didn't get out very much.  Or didn't study history.  Or didn't just watch one certain cable news channel.
 
2017-07-19 03:26:09 PM  

kindms: I suspect this is also BS.

Border crossings were already way down under the Obama administration. Also Obama deported more people during his 8 years compared to just about everyone. Not that this should be a claim to fame but it seems that once again this propaganda is BS.

SO when Obama was deporting people in record numbers these ICE agents had no meanings to their jobs but now they do ?


I'm assuming they've been freed from job-killing regulations like being held responsible for their actions while taking immigrants into custody.
 
2017-07-19 03:26:16 PM  
"demands for illegal criminals in local jails has skyrocketed 80 percent."

What does that mean? The public's demands for "illegal criminals" to be put in jail? Or the demands of the "illegal criminals" while in jail ( we demand more Cholula in the dining hall!) ? Or the numbers of "illegal criminals" in jail has gone up by 80%?

And what is an "illegal criminal," anyway?
 
2017-07-19 03:27:07 PM  

PreMortem: I always thought sanctuary cities were cities thay wouldn't report you if you reported a crime. No one should be afraid to call the cops because they might get deported. It has somehow been transformed into 'we wont identify illegals who are felonious'. I don't get it.


in a lot of ways, the sanctuary city policy has morphed into 'just get here and you can do whatever the hell you want' policy. Felony conviction is one thing, but multiple misdemeanors perpetrated by people who are not interested in being here legally - burglaries etc - don't get reported here in SF.  it's a big problem.  it's not a black and white issue but it gets treated like ine.  as dogwhistle-y as it is, the guy that shot the pretty white girl should not have been here.
 
2017-07-19 03:27:36 PM  

pixelnaut: And what is an "illegal criminal," anyway?


Someone who hasn't joined the GOP and become a legal criminal.
 
2017-07-19 03:27:46 PM  

Prey4reign: Why are Fox News, Breitbart and WND the only media outlets reporting this?


They got it from the Washington Examiner, but had to put their own spin on it...FTFA:
The drop in illegal crossings has given ICE a chance to redirect resources to interior United States and immigrants locked up in jails, illegally working jobs and on the run.
A key target are the 300-plus sanctuary cities and counties that do not cooperate with ICE and ignore requests that they detail criminal illegals for ICE arrest and deportation proceedings.
Click for more from The Washington Examiner.
 
2017-07-19 03:27:46 PM  
The article never says what they intend to do or how to crack down on sanctuary cities.

So the point of the article was what?
 
2017-07-19 03:28:49 PM  

Prey4reign: Why are Fox News, Breitbart and WND the only media outlets reporting this?


Did you read tfa?

There is precious little reporting - ie, no details about what this crackdown entails. But? Stats on how ICE loves them some Trump and how much illegals crossing into the US has declined.

They are reporting on this because it is pro-Trump and comes across as progress to his base who voted for him because they blame immigration for their employment/housing problems.

Come the time some over-eager agent hurts or kills someone in custody, or someone in custody in error is raped while in jail there will be crickets.
 
2017-07-19 03:30:26 PM  

cefm: The article never says what they intend to do or how to crack down on sanctuary cities.

So the point of the article was what?


Bzzt. try again:
the nation's chief immigration official revealed Tuesday that deportation targets have surged and that he's planning to deploy more agents and resources to "sanctuary cities" to arrest illegal criminals.
 
2017-07-19 03:32:35 PM  
FTFA:

The drop in illegal crossings has given ICE a chance to redirect resources to interior United States and immigrants locked up in jails, illegally working jobs and on the run.

What an awkward sentence in a strangely awkward article. Seriously, you would think that The Washington Examiner could hire an editor with a college degree.
 
2017-07-19 03:32:35 PM  
I'm OK with this.

ICE is talking about doing their jobs.  That's fine.  What's not fine is expecting local cops to do their jobs, and by doing so creating a chilling effect that results in minorities (legally here or not) not reporting crimes and not cooperating with police.

/I'd prefer they jail the people that employ the illegal aliens.
//Autocorrect helped me, I was going to say "nail them to the wall".
 
2017-07-19 03:33:18 PM  
This is exactly how Escape 2000 starts, isn't it?
 
2017-07-19 03:33:22 PM  
if you are competing with undocumented workers for a job this one aspect of the twitter troll presidency you might like as he takes away your health insurance and raises your taxes while minimum wage is never raised.
 
2017-07-19 03:33:42 PM  
Gotta protect us from those dangerous families with children.  Maybe they'll stake out courthouses in order to catch a few more domestic violence victims.
 
2017-07-19 03:34:47 PM  

mrshowrules: So about 27 million latinos can vote.  Maybe about 30% vote Republican.  Maybe less.  Let's say 10 million vote straight republican.

These are 10 million votes the Republicans can lose.  How many legitimate voters do they lose for every person they deport that can't vote.  F$cking stupid strategy.


35 million of those votes are from illegal immigrants.
 
2017-07-19 03:35:12 PM  

Thank You Black Jesus!: PreMortem: I always thought sanctuary cities were cities thay wouldn't report you if you reported a crime. No one should be afraid to call the cops because they might get deported. It has somehow been transformed into 'we wont identify illegals who are felonious'. I don't get it.

in a lot of ways, the sanctuary city policy has morphed into 'just get here and you can do whatever the hell you want' policy. Felony conviction is one thing, but multiple misdemeanors perpetrated by people who are not interested in being here legally - burglaries etc - don't get reported here in SF.  it's a big problem.  it's not a black and white issue but it gets treated like ine.  as dogwhistle-y as it is, the guy that shot the pretty white girl should not have been here.


No, that's not what it as at all. Sanctuary cities are, primarily, simply cities that don't use local resources to enforce federal immigration law or assist with requests from ICE to detain people on immigration grounds if they get picked up for minor crimes that don't entail imprisonment.

Impressive regurgitation of the alternate facts, though, Kellyanne.
 
2017-07-19 03:35:46 PM  

ImpendingCynic: pixelnaut: And what is an "illegal criminal," anyway?

Someone who hasn't joined the GOP and become a legal criminal.


img.fark.net
 
2017-07-19 03:37:50 PM  

kindms: I suspect this is also BS.

Border crossings were already way down under the Obama administration. Also Obama deported more people during his 8 years compared to just about everyone. Not that this should be a claim to fame but it seems that once again this propaganda is BS.

SO when Obama was deporting people in record numbers these ICE agents had no meanings to their jobs but now they do ?


No, but Trump's election has released any constraints on the ICE, so agents can be the Brownshirts they've always dreamed of being.
 
2017-07-19 03:39:43 PM  

Prey4reign: Why are Fox News, Breitbart and WND the only media outlets reporting this?


I didn't notice the site I was reading until I saw the comments...
 
2017-07-19 03:40:45 PM  
It's why Sessions is trying to extend the Civil Forfeiture laws, back to the days of the Fugitive Slave Act.

The FSA was, where by "harboring" a black person in update New York, a rich Yankee could be deprived of life, liberty, and treasure ("lose the farm") if some yokel "slave catcher" from Alabama claimed that person was his slave and property. The civil forfeiture was missing from contemporary "we'll just cut their federal funding and remove them from local office" part.  In earlier times, the "slave catcher" was a "witch finder."
 
2017-07-19 03:41:01 PM  

PreMortem: I always thought sanctuary cities were cities thay wouldn't report you if you reported a crime. No one should be afraid to call the cops because they might get deported. It has somehow been transformed into 'we wont identify illegals who are felonious'. I don't get it.


Sanctuary cities are those that refuse to mandate their police officers detain undocumented persons for the 72 hours ICE wants. They have this odd idea their LEOs shouldn't be an arm of the Fed and that their jails shouldn't double as a some half-assed Motel Six, holding people who often are not under arrest for a crime but rather holding them so ICE can prove they are deportable.

All that costs money they don't get back. Man hours, transportation, jail time - all out of pocket.

They are also cities that have refused to permit arrests of undocumented persons, who are also parents, at their children's schools (an easy place to find them), churches, and so on.

ICE doesn't need these cities to identify illegals who have committed felonies, since ICE already has access to those records.

What ICE should be doing is raiding companies that hire undocumented workers - actually enforcing current laws rather than, as has happened, deporting both parents and leaving their america-born children alone. (in one case a 17 year old hs senior and his two younger sibs).
 
2017-07-19 03:42:18 PM  
Those hard working mexicans are scary

I'm so frighten
 
2017-07-19 03:43:36 PM  

mrshowrules: So about 27 million latinos can vote.  Maybe about 30% vote Republican.  Maybe less.  Let's say 10 million vote straight republican.

These are 10 million votes the Republicans can lose.  How many legitimate voters do they lose for every person they deport that can't vote.  F$cking stupid strategy.


W got 40% of the Hispanic vote.  I seem to remember reading that the party had wanted to go after that vote in 2016, since they're historically a conservative demographic.  They had a Bush and 2 Hispanic last names in the primaries, after all.  But then Trump happened and racists everywhere rejoiced.
 
2017-07-19 03:43:52 PM  
Ice Cold: Over here we got some perpetrators - a bunch of Ice Wannabes. See, Ice Cold, I'm the man, but we got Ice Tray, Ice Coffee, Ice Water, Iceberg, Ice Cup, Icebox. I mean it gets real ridiculous when people tryin' to bite your style, you know what I'm sayin'? But, hey, that's the way it is, it's the rap world.
 
2017-07-19 03:45:19 PM  

kindms: I suspect this is also BS.

Border crossings were already way down under the Obama administration. Also Obama deported more people during his 8 years compared to just about everyone. Not that this should be a claim to fame but it seems that once again this propaganda is BS.

SO when Obama was deporting people in record numbers these ICE agents had no meanings to their jobs but now they do ?


No, their jobs had no meaning because according to them, they were probably following the orders of some Kenyan illegal immigrant Muslim who somehow managed to get into the White House. Now, they are getting marching orders from a true American.
 
MFK
2017-07-19 03:46:27 PM  
FTFA:
"You can like President Trump, not like him, like his policies, not like his policies, but one thing no one can argue with is the effect they've had," said Homan, the former chief ICE enforcement boss and a 30-year immigration agency veteran.
He said that the change in immigration enforcement has been radical - and welcome - under Trump. "You'd think everybody would be celebrating these policies," he said during the 45-minute interview in his office.


Hey Asshole, newsflash: Not everyone approves of turning America into a gestapo-ridden dystopia just so you f*ckers can get your numbers up a bit.  I'd rather have a country where everyone can feel safe in their homes and going about their business with a few undocumented immigrants here and there instead of this nightmare you f*cks are subjecting us to.
 
2017-07-19 03:46:31 PM  

Ocean_Pimp: Those hard working mexicans are scary

I'm so frighten


Well, they are brown, and they talk funny. That frighten me.
 
2017-07-19 03:47:31 PM  
http://www.laweekly.com/news/calexit-comic-imagines-a-future-californ​i​a-independent-from-the-united-states-8429918
Just picked up the first issue last week. Didn't realize it was going to be a prediction of the future though
 
MFK
2017-07-19 03:47:49 PM  
Also, I looked at the comments Ray and they were surprisingly not derpy
 
2017-07-19 03:48:08 PM  

LL316: mrshowrules: So about 27 million latinos can vote.  Maybe about 30% vote Republican.  Maybe less.  Let's say 10 million vote straight republican.

These are 10 million votes the Republicans can lose.  How many legitimate voters do they lose for every person they deport that can't vote.  F$cking stupid strategy.

W got 40% of the Hispanic vote.  I seem to remember reading that the party had wanted to go after that vote in 2016, since they're historically a conservative demographic.  They had a Bush and 2 Hispanic last names in the primaries, after all.  But then Trump happened and racists everywhere rejoiced.


There was a lot of blowback from Bush's attempt at outreach.

http://www.americanpatrol.com/GUESTCOLUMNS/MILLARD/1stMexiPrezBush031​2​28HM_.html
 
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