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(Washington Post)   Keebler Elf wants police to seize more cash for their budgets, better cookie ovens in his tree   ( washingtonpost.com) divider line
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2017-07-17 05:26:52 PM  
And of course "adoptive forfeiture is appropriate" per Sessions. He needs his kickbacks somehow.
 
2017-07-17 05:35:24 PM  
I feel like if I had even doctor money, I'd start hiding it overseas.
 
2017-07-17 05:58:57 PM  

dv-ous: I feel like if I had even doctor money, I'd start hiding it overseas.


Especially doctor money, since he made clear he wants to go after doctors for writing prescriptions.
 
2017-07-17 07:05:50 PM  
Since this started I've been stunned this wasn't stopped nationwide. It's the new Mafia shakedown except it's cops. You have all the same remedies as if the mob came in and took your stuff, just now they do it with a badge and a smile. Guess those new cop cars aren't going to pay for themselves.
 
2017-07-17 07:38:17 PM  
It's like he's trying to see how big of an asshole he can be.
 
2017-07-17 07:41:29 PM  
Wasn't this the premise of "The Last Shakedown Of Christ"?
 
2017-07-17 07:42:21 PM  

fusillade762: It's like he's trying to see how big of an asshole he can be.


He does kind of have a bad case of Short Man Syndrome...

/5'6" in the interests of full disclosure
//Admitting that you have the problem is the first step...
 
2017-07-17 07:53:47 PM  

fusillade762: It's like he's trying to see how big of an asshole he can be.


Trying? I'd say he's succeeding.
 
2017-07-17 08:23:00 PM  
Asset forfeiture laws allow plenty of room for profiling. Intended for 'drug traffickers', it gives police an excuse to stop anyone they 'think' is a drug dealer, and confiscate any cash they have. We all know who these people will be. If you're legit, you spend thousands in legal fees, trying to get your money back. Texas has been the testing ground for a few years now.

It gets better. Banks are now being required to notify police whenever you withdraw large amounts of cash. Because, you know, you're buying drugs.
 
2017-07-17 08:35:36 PM  
In lieu of payment, most conquering armies would sack the city after defeating the opposing army, and take anything that wasn't nailed down.  King Edward III laid waste to most parts of France that he passed through when he invaded in the late 1300s.
 
2017-07-17 08:48:29 PM  
So once again the party of the constitution and original intent strikes again. I have had to listen to my neighbors biatch their pool got held up by Obama because of a water way policy. (Not true) however if the government just wants to start seizing private property yeah we have no issue with that. Something something innocent until proven guilty etc.
 
2017-07-17 09:15:00 PM  
the 2nd amendment is more important than the 4th amendment I guess.

Conservatives have a hard on for the NRA but not the ACLU.
 
2017-07-17 09:25:15 PM  
I guess I'll just have to double my monthly contribution to the ACLU.
 
2017-07-17 09:25:30 PM  

vernonFL: the 2nd amendment is more important than the 4th amendment I guess.

Conservatives have a hard on for the NRA but not the ACLU.


Conservatives know this isn't a threat to any WASPs.
 
2017-07-17 09:27:22 PM  
If only the "we hate civil asset forfeiture" crowd had thought about the ramifications of voting for these assholes.
 
2017-07-17 09:27:57 PM  
Civil Forfeiture: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
Youtube 3kEpZWGgJks

/obligatory
 
2017-07-17 09:31:07 PM  

not enough beer: So once again the party of the constitution and original intent strikes again. I have had to listen to my neighbors biatch their pool got held up by Obama because of a water way policy. (Not true) however if the government just wants to start seizing private property yeah we have no issue with that. Something something innocent until proven guilty etc.


That's because that sort of thing only happens to Them.

Not even being specific about which variety or varieties of "them" they are, except they're not "us".
 
stk [TotalFark]
2017-07-17 09:33:52 PM  
Hey, seize THESEassets, twinkle-toes.

I never wish harm on anyone, but if Sessions decided to take a nice, long flight to the center of the sun, we'd all be better off.
 
2017-07-17 09:37:15 PM  

Irving Maimway: Since this started I've been stunned this wasn't stopped nationwide. It's the new Mafia shakedown except it's cops. You have all the same remedies as if the mob came in and took your stuff, just now they do it with a badge and a smile. Guess those new cop cars aren't going to pay for themselves.


Who said they smiled?
 
2017-07-17 09:38:22 PM  
img.fark.net

//humming softly while I work.
 
2017-07-17 09:40:23 PM  
Just heinous.  I swear this admin. goes out of the way to be regressive in every conceivable area.
 
2017-07-17 09:42:35 PM  
More proof that there was absolutely no difference between Trump and Clinton, justifying voting third party or not voting at all.
 
2017-07-17 09:42:58 PM  

UNC_Samurai: If only the "we hate civil asset forfeiture" crowd had thought about the ramifications of voting for these assholes.


Trumpers either openly or secretly love this fascist shiat. No matter what they say.

It's being *tough*

They knew what they were buying. They just didn't give a shiat or didn't have enough brain cells to entertain both the *oh boy fun i hate libs* train of thought at the same time as "but maybe i shouldn't jump into a vat of acid at the ballot box"

But then they'll remember that it's those damn libs that hate their God, Jesus Washington Heston or something, and convince themselves they're defenders of what they imagine democracy to be. While their civil war general department of justice runs around doing whatever the fark it wants; due-process and the constitution be damned.
 
2017-07-17 10:01:07 PM  

fusillade762: It's like he's trying to see how big of an asshole he can be.


I think it might be more like he really is that big an asshole and now it's spilling out of the government overreach box in all the ways the fringed flaggers told us it would, but won't complain about because at least the blah man has been evicted.
 
2017-07-17 10:02:22 PM  

fusillade762: It's like he's trying to see how big of an asshole he can be.


He's got little man syndrome.
 
2017-07-17 10:04:52 PM  

Godscrack: Asset forfeiture laws allow plenty of room for profiling. Intended for 'drug traffickers', it gives police an excuse to stop anyone they 'think' is a drug dealer, and confiscate any cash they have. We all know who these people will be. If you're legit, you spend thousands in legal fees, trying to get your money back. Texas has been the testing ground for a few years now.

It gets better. Banks are now being required to notify police whenever you withdraw large amounts of cash. Because, you know, you're buying drugs.


Currency transaction reporting under the Anti-money laundering act has been a thing since 1986. CTR's are filed with FinCEN, not "the police".
 
2017-07-17 10:06:22 PM  
Civil asset forfeiture was the second dumbest Supreme Court ruling in history.  The logic in that and Citizens United make Dredd Scott look reasonable.

However, looks like they're walking it back this year
http://reason.com/blog/2017/04/21/scotus-says-states-have-no-right-to​-​mone
 
2017-07-17 10:06:56 PM  

Befuddled: More proof that there was absolutely no difference between Trump and Clinton, justifying voting third party or not voting at all.


HRC never once came out against civil asset forfeiture that I can find. This is actually an area where both sides really are bad on the federal level. At least some states are banning the practice.
 
2017-07-17 10:09:59 PM  
MurphyMurphy:
Trumpers either openly or secretly love this fascist shiat. No matter what they say.

It's being *tough*


Self-flagellation. They know they deserve this. They love the hurt, oh it hurts so good yes, and the libruls, they can't handle it like Trumpnuts can.  Nuttycakes offer up the pain to Jesus! But libruls hate Jesus so this hurts them more.
 
2017-07-17 10:10:27 PM  
 
2017-07-17 10:14:36 PM  
Does Trump have any assets we can seize?
 
2017-07-17 10:15:25 PM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: Civil asset forfeiture was the second dumbest Supreme Court ruling in history.  The logic in that and Citizens United make Dredd Scott look reasonable.


I still can't get over Bong Hits 4 Jesus or Kelo either.  If they somehow decide that gerrymandering is Constitutional, it's over.
 
2017-07-17 10:20:36 PM  
Cowboy Spencer:
I still can't get over Bong Hits 4 Jesus or Kelo either.  If they somehow decide that gerrymandering is Constitutional, it's over.

Gill vs Whitford. I agree. SCOTUS saying that's OK means single party system is OK. It's bad enough we only have two let alone if there's no way to punish one or the other other than packing and moving.
 
2017-07-17 10:22:08 PM  

stk: Hey, seize THESEassets, twinkle-toes.

I never wish harm on anyone, but if Sessions decided to take a nice, long flight to the center of the sun, we'd all be better off.


Some people can only make the world a better place through their departure from it. It is not wrong to wish these people harm or even death, because their very existence harms or kills countless others. The Trump Administration is full of these kinds of people, from a significant portion of the White House staff, to most of the Cabinet secretaries, up to and including the Vice President and President themselves. Trump's hardcore supporters fall into this category as well, as does a significant part of the GOP base. Hell, almost every GOP MOC is in that category as well.

These people are actual, blackshirted fascists. They want to use the power of the State to maintain their patriarchal straight white Christian hegemony. They actively harm and disenfranchise minority groups and others who go against "divine order" through gerrymandering, vote suppression, asset forfeiture, policing, and resource distribution, to name a few methods. They want to turn women into broodmares or axlotl tanks. They turn anyone who is different, particularly if they are already in a powerless position, into a scapegoat for their own problems. They constantly disseminate lies and misinformation. They actively wish to harm anyone who isn't like them, so fark them. I hope they all get locked in syndrome that lasts for the rest of their very long lives.
 
2017-07-17 10:25:42 PM  
Without regard to the legality of their actions, the intent of the Trump Administration and the Republican Party is clearly criminal.
 
2017-07-17 10:29:39 PM  

Summoner101: I guess I'll just have to double my monthly contribution to the ACLU.


Make sure you don't send it to them in cash or it may be confiscated by the cops.
 
2017-07-17 10:38:01 PM  

Befuddled: More proof that there was absolutely no difference between Trump and Clinton, justifying voting third party or not voting at all.


Check out my party. The majority are disgusted/disillusioned ex-Republicans but the left, right and center are all welcome as our focus is practical, not ideological.  Unlike the Republicans we don't motivate our 'base' with spite and bigotry.  Unlike the Democrats we have a vision and goals beyond acting like that spoof Cleveland tourism ad .  "At least we're not the GOP!"  ...Truly inspiring.

/fully aware that Americans tend not to take political parties seriously unless they have a chance at the national level
//One of our party planks is electoral college reform
///We're a lot closer to the party Bernie Sanders wants than the Dems except for the gun thing.
////Bernie Sanders(W) for prez in 2020
 
2017-07-17 10:40:43 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-07-17 10:43:24 PM  
I'm not very fond of some of the people governing our country.
 
2017-07-17 10:54:40 PM  

Jeff73: The majority are disgusted/disillusioned ex-Republicans but the left, right and center are all welcome as our focus is practical, not ideological


I briefly flirted with the Modern Whigs (and even registered as in CA) towards the end of my Conservative period. I left after the local party officials couldn't come out and cleanly say if they supported same-sex marriage or not.

As far as I'd been able to tell, they stood for meaningless platitudes of middle ground and BSABism.
 
2017-07-17 10:56:40 PM  
Gee, how come the "taxes are theft" crowd never have any comment on civil asset forfeiture?
 
2017-07-17 10:59:04 PM  

fusillade762: It's like he's trying to see how big of an asshole he can be.


He's a reverse TARDIS. The asshole is bigger than the ass.
 
2017-07-17 11:01:39 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: [img.fark.net image 640x360]

//humming softly while I work.


Right, that will fix everything.

Putz
 
2017-07-17 11:12:24 PM  
This entire administration couldn't be more out of sync with current thought in America and that includes what conservatives want.
 
2017-07-17 11:17:23 PM  
Whoa, ease up! Just think of it as a form of road tax...
(did I say highway robbery?)

Ok, you farkwitted, drawling little elf, you have officially outlived any possible useful purpose you ever had. Please, feel free to wither and die and time now. Society needs no more of your evil.
 
2017-07-17 11:27:43 PM  

LarryDan43: Does Trump have any assets we can seize?


Vladimir has first dibs.
 
2017-07-17 11:37:45 PM  

Summercat: Jeff73: The majority are disgusted/disillusioned ex-Republicans but the left, right and center are all welcome as our focus is practical, not ideological

I briefly flirted with the Modern Whigs (and even registered as in CA) towards the end of my Conservative period. I left after the local party officials couldn't come out and cleanly say if they supported same-sex marriage or not.

As far as I'd been able to tell, they stood for meaningless platitudes of middle ground and BSABism.

Our (almost) party farked up then.  From a constitutional perspective there is no non-religious argument against gay marriage.

/am I wrong about remembering you from the old FA forums?
//I'm Lenny
 
2017-07-17 11:38:57 PM  
Y'all don't know what it's like
Being male, middle-class and white
 
2017-07-17 11:42:39 PM  

Jeff73: Summercat: Jeff73: The majority are disgusted/disillusioned ex-Republicans but the left, right and center are all welcome as our focus is practical, not ideological

I briefly flirted with the Modern Whigs (and even registered as in CA) towards the end of my Conservative period. I left after the local party officials couldn't come out and cleanly say if they supported same-sex marriage or not.

As far as I'd been able to tell, they stood for meaningless platitudes of middle ground and BSABism.
Our (almost) party farked up then.  From a constitutional perspective there is no non-religious argument against gay marriage.

/am I wrong about remembering you from the old FA forums?
//I'm Lenny


You are. I used to be an admin on FA.
 
2017-07-17 11:45:52 PM  

Jeff73: Summercat: Jeff73: The majority are disgusted/disillusioned ex-Republicans but the left, right and center are all welcome as our focus is practical, not ideological

I briefly flirted with the Modern Whigs (and even registered as in CA) towards the end of my Conservative period. I left after the local party officials couldn't come out and cleanly say if they supported same-sex marriage or not.

As far as I'd been able to tell, they stood for meaningless platitudes of middle ground and BSABism.
Our (almost) party farked up then.  From a constitutional perspective there is no non-religious argument against gay marriage.

/am I wrong about remembering you from the old FA forums?
//I'm Lenny


Er rather, you are not misremembering.

Also to respond to the meat of the post -

Thus far I've not seen any argument for a third party that is not rooted in a desire for a third party. It seems the actual party platform doesn't matter, just an unthinking BSABism that ignores the fundamental fact our.election system will always result in two coalition parties.
 
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