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2017-07-17 12:38:05 AM  
That story is absolutely heartbreaking.
 
2017-07-17 01:52:37 AM  
Nevercall the cops if worried about someone's mental health.

Just don't.
 
2017-07-17 02:48:53 AM  
I can't snark at this.
 
2017-07-17 02:52:50 AM  
That...seems like a disproportionate response regardless of the parents suggestion.
 
2017-07-17 02:55:24 AM  

Shadow Blasko: Nevercall the cops if worried about someone's mental health.

Just don't.


As someone said in a thread about a similar story: if you have a problem and you call the cops now you have two problems.
 
2017-07-17 04:21:38 AM  
Cops be all like, "mental health emergency? Break out the heavy weapons!"

Blues Brothers - Hut Hut Hut SWAT-scenes
Youtube Atks5rRqQkg


"Situation resolved."

/Bastards
 
2017-07-17 04:40:58 AM  
Lesson learned: Don't call the cops for a suicidal person
 
2017-07-17 06:45:20 AM  
Want someone dead? Call the cops to check on them.
Pig be all like " let's kill this mofo cause we can"
 
2017-07-17 07:07:20 AM  
Inb4 habitual coplickers enter to proclaim that these cops were in the right cause the dude could have, i don't know, had drugs or bombs or a nuke in his room sonewhere. Or could have been a liberal or something.
 
2017-07-17 07:08:46 AM  
i always enjoy reading how such things are handled in second/third world countries. Makes me appreciate our police force more
 
2017-07-17 07:12:53 AM  

cman: Lesson learned: Don't call the cops for a suicidal person


Fixed.
 
2017-07-17 07:14:02 AM  

LowbrowDeluxe: That...seems like a disproportionate response regardless of the parents suggestion.


They've got all this high end military gear that they never get to use.   When the opportunity to suit up comes, they go full hog.
 
2017-07-17 07:17:32 AM  

Shadow Blasko: Nevercall the cops if worried about someone's mental health.

Just don't.


Yeah, wait until they go all murder-suicide.
 
2017-07-17 07:19:16 AM  
Wait. So as soon as the parents were shuffled off in a police van away from the house and are unable to witness, suddenly the kid chooses that moment to kill himself. Seems awfully convenient for the cops.
 
2017-07-17 07:19:56 AM  

lucksi: i always enjoy reading how such things are handled in second/third world countries. Makes me appreciate our police force more


Deutschland uber alles

Are you an expat living there, or are you native?
 
2017-07-17 07:20:23 AM  

Shadow Blasko: Never call the cops if worried about someone's mental health.

Just don't.


Can't smart this enough.
 
2017-07-17 07:20:51 AM  

Keyser_Soze_Death: cman: Lesson learned: Don't call the cops for a suicidal person

Fixed.


If someone was trying to break into my place, I'm gonna call the cops. They do have their uses even tho many of them can be assholes.
 
2017-07-17 07:24:17 AM  
"Don't back me into a corner," his father remembers Austin saying. "Because I'll make it go away in four seconds."
To Russell Reeves, the meaning was clear - Austin would hurt himself if he wasn't left in peace. Stunned and afraid, Reeves dialed the Hingham police just after 10 p.m. to ask for help.


So the meaning was clear... yet he calls the police.

In the hall upstairs, Austin's mother spoke to him through his locked bedroom door. "Whatever's happening," Kate Harrison says she called to her son, "I love you, and we can work it out."

Then immediately start pestering him.
I get the feeling they never actually leave him the fark alone
 
2017-07-17 07:24:36 AM  
All those cops, all that hardware on the scene, and the dog, a pitty mix no less, survives. That is a goddam miracle in this whole heartbreaking story.
 
2017-07-17 07:25:39 AM  
cman:
If someone was trying to break into my place, I'm gonna call the cops. They do have their uses even tho many of them can be assholes.

Even that isn't safe, apparently.
 
2017-07-17 07:26:16 AM  

Shadow Blasko: Nevercall the cops if worried about someone's mental health.

Just don't.


Only call the cops if you need someone killed and you can't do it yourself.
 
2017-07-17 07:29:21 AM  

cman: lucksi: i always enjoy reading how such things are handled in second/third world countries. Makes me appreciate our police force more

Deutschland uber alles

Are you an expat living there, or are you native?


it's funny how you people know such things, yet elect a leader running on that platform
 
2017-07-17 07:30:26 AM  

Jesus McSordid: cman:
If someone was trying to break into my place, I'm gonna call the cops. They do have their uses even tho many of them can be assholes.

Even that isn't safe, apparently.


Why on earth is that story not on fark's main page yet?
 
2017-07-17 07:32:11 AM  
FTA: "The reason police shoot someone is that they fear getting shot," Berkowitz said. "If they're wearing armor, or they're in an armored truck, they feel more secure, and they're less likely to shoot."

HAHAHAHAHAHA, no.

Lets fix that shall we?

FIXED:  "The reason police shoot someone is that they fear everything," Berkowitz said. "If they're wearing armor, or they're in an armored truck, they feel more empowered, and they're more likely to shoot to prove their manhood."

Now that statement is true.
 
2017-07-17 07:33:13 AM  
I read that whole piece trying to find the bit that justified why the police were even there in the first place.

There wasn't one.
 
2017-07-17 07:33:59 AM  

lucksi: cman: lucksi: i always enjoy reading how such things are handled in second/third world countries. Makes me appreciate our police force more

Deutschland uber alles

Are you an expat living there, or are you native?

it's funny how you people know such things, yet elect a leader running on that platform


uh no... we people didn't, we people elected Hillary by 3 million more votes than the derp brigade.  The EC abdicated their duty and elected the demagogue which is outside of the people's control.
 
2017-07-17 07:35:12 AM  

Nidiot: I read that whole piece trying to find the bit that justified why the police were even there in the first place.

There wasn't one.


one of them called for a wellness check.
 
2017-07-17 07:37:18 AM  
Guys, the cops do not back down. If they've had to come all the way out there, you're leaving in cuffs or a bag.
 
2017-07-17 07:37:27 AM  

cpubus: "Don't back me into a corner," his father remembers Austin saying. "Because I'll make it go away in four seconds."
To Russell Reeves, the meaning was clear - Austin would hurt himself if he wasn't left in peace. Stunned and afraid, Reeves dialed the Hingham police just after 10 p.m. to ask for help.

So the meaning was clear... yet he calls the police.

In the hall upstairs, Austin's mother spoke to him through his locked bedroom door. "Whatever's happening," Kate Harrison says she called to her son, "I love you, and we can work it out."

Then immediately start pestering him.
I get the feeling they never actually leave him the fark alone


Yeah. Thanks Mom and Dad, you sure handled that well. Of course you wont see how you contributed to the death of your own son there at all.
 
2017-07-17 07:38:06 AM  

lucksi: cman: lucksi: i always enjoy reading how such things are handled in second/third world countries. Makes me appreciate our police force more

Deutschland uber alles

Are you an expat living there, or are you native?

it's funny how you people know such things, yet elect a leader running on that platform


Thats like the only line of the song I know. Anyone who watches the Olympics probably is the same.

And I didnt vote for the asshole. 46% of American voters did.

/I spent some time in Wiesbaden (for some reason, spellcheck wants to correct that to "disbandment"). I Loved it there.
 
2017-07-17 07:38:45 AM  
Police safety is much like firearm safety; never point either at something you don't want to kill.
 
2017-07-17 07:39:58 AM  
I dunno. I had a former boss who was going through a tough time with a dying father,a stolen bike, and a nasty break-up who ended up having one of these wellness checks initiated on him. The police came out, spoke with him, and did seize his guns for his own "protection".

Now he was rather embarrassed about the whole situation. Both with how his neighbors now perceived the guy who had all those cop cars show up at his house, let alone how he might be perceived at work.

But you know what? The whole thing went down without incident. He wasnt raised as a spoiled brat who always got his way through threats of self-harm.
 
2017-07-17 07:40:06 AM  

his name is my name too: Nidiot: I read that whole piece trying to find the bit that justified why the police were even there in the first place.

There wasn't one.

one of them called for a wellness check.


A wellness check is suitable for someone who hasn't been seen alive for a while, not for someone who went to their room asking to be left alone.
 
2017-07-17 07:42:37 AM  

cman: Lesson learned: Don't call the cops for a suicidal person


Or ever, really.

The only reason you should call the police is to kill negros. That's not what police are supposed to be, just what they've become. If you need negros murdered, call the police. If you need ANYTHING else, call someone else.

Also if you are black , or even have a heavy tan, and the police show up... GET THE HELL OUTTA THERE!
 
2017-07-17 07:42:41 AM  

his name is my name too: lucksi: cman: lucksi: i always enjoy reading how such things are handled in second/third world countries. Makes me appreciate our police force more

Deutschland uber alles

Are you an expat living there, or are you native?

it's funny how you people know such things, yet elect a leader running on that platform

uh no... we people didn't, we people elected Hillary by 3 million more votes than the derp brigade.  The EC abdicated their duty and elected the demagogue which is outside of the people's control.


yeah, it's not like you have historical precedent that some peoples vote only count for 3 fifth...
 
2017-07-17 07:46:12 AM  
Another victory for the NRA
 
2017-07-17 07:47:14 AM  
All he wanted was one Pepsi.
 
2017-07-17 07:48:05 AM  

doglover: cman: Lesson learned: Don't call the cops for a suicidal person

Or ever, really.

The only reason you should call the police is to kill negros. That's not what police are supposed to be, just what they've become. If you need negros murdered, call the police. If you need ANYTHING else, call someone else.

Also if you are black , or even have a heavy tan, and the police show up... GET THE HELL OUTTA THERE!


They just shot an unarmed blonde white Australian woman in Minneapolis, after she called them for help http://www.startribune.com/woman-killed-in-officer-involved-shoo​ting-i​n-south-minneapolis/434782213/#1 so you have to update that advice. Skin tone is now irrelevant.

Don't call the police unless you want someone shot.
 
2017-07-17 07:48:59 AM  

Nidiot: cpubus: "Don't back me into a corner," his father remembers Austin saying. "Because I'll make it go away in four seconds."
To Russell Reeves, the meaning was clear - Austin would hurt himself if he wasn't left in peace. Stunned and afraid, Reeves dialed the Hingham police just after 10 p.m. to ask for help.

So the meaning was clear... yet he calls the police.

In the hall upstairs, Austin's mother spoke to him through his locked bedroom door. "Whatever's happening," Kate Harrison says she called to her son, "I love you, and we can work it out."

Then immediately start pestering him.
I get the feeling they never actually leave him the fark alone

Yeah. Thanks Mom and Dad, you sure handled that well. Of course you wont see how you contributed to the death of your own son there at all.


Yeah, when a loved one goes up to a room to be alone with a gun and is visibly distraught, everyone acts completely 100% rationally. Nobody could ever panic and make a one poor decision, which they will regret forever in hindsight.

/Way to kick some one when they're down.
//Glad at least that the cops didn't gun the dog down in front of the parents.
 
2017-07-17 07:49:44 AM  

lucksi: his name is my name too: lucksi: cman: lucksi: i always enjoy reading how such things are handled in second/third world countries. Makes me appreciate our police force more

Deutschland uber alles

Are you an expat living there, or are you native?

it's funny how you people know such things, yet elect a leader running on that platform

uh no... we people didn't, we people elected Hillary by 3 million more votes than the derp brigade.  The EC abdicated their duty and elected the demagogue which is outside of the people's control.

yeah, it's not like you have historical precedent that some peoples vote only count for 3 fifth...


Slaves werent allowed to vote and at no time were blacks vote only worth 3/5ths of a white mans vote

That 3/5ths rule was about population count towards representation. Blacks were only considered 3/5ths of a person because the south wanted them to be count as a full person so the south could have more representation in Congress (all of whom would have been white).
 
2017-07-17 07:50:01 AM  

Nidiot: Skin tone is now irrelevant.


Well fark.

They can't even not shoot blonde chicks!?!?!

I take it back. ONLY CALL THE POLICE IN AMERICA IF YOU WANT TO DIE. THEY WILL F*CK AND OR KILL YOU.

911? More like 187.
 
2017-07-17 07:50:18 AM  
You have the right to bear arms, unless you're at home in your bedroom with a dog.
 
2017-07-17 07:52:00 AM  
I can't imagine the bill for that
 
2017-07-17 07:53:56 AM  
America's police system is broken. Many (if not most) cops have absolutely no idea how to deescalate a situation, and those that do often get reprimanded for talking people down instead of gunning down the "threat". And our legal system has repeatedly told police that if they even feel a twinge of 'fear', they're completely justified in killing someone, no matter how little of a threat was posed, or how cooperative the victim was.

The entire system needs to be rebuilt from the ground up.
 
2017-07-17 07:53:57 AM  

cman: Lesson learned: Don't call the cops for a suicidal person


The problem is, if you call the suicide hotline, they will call the cops.
Happened to friends of mine when their daughter called.
It didn't end like this thankfully.
 
2017-07-17 07:56:20 AM  

Wyalt Derp: You have the right to bear arms, unless you're at home in your bedroom with a dog.


Or black and cooperating with the police.
 
2017-07-17 07:58:00 AM  
The regional SWAT team boasts trained negotiators and military-style equipment including a bulletproof BearCat armored truck.

Oh, I wish those parents didn't call the police.  Suburban cops with access to unnecessary over-the-top military equipment is practically a guaranteed death sentence.  Parents had to learn the hard way that cops are not there to help and should only be called as a last result.

Anyone read Twilight Eyes by Dean Koontz?  This scene reminds me of how the goblins in human skin would all show up and gather in numbers to witness when death was about to happen.  All those cops showing up to see the show remind me of that.

/That was a very sad read
//I'm sure the cops are patting themselves on the back for 'resolving' the situation
///can't believe they didn't murder the dog, too
 
2017-07-17 08:01:31 AM  
My first thought would be to call a suicide prevention hotline, unless of course I suspected that my child with the gun was likely to take out a few other people including myself, neighbors, ex girlfriends, etc.; at which point the responsible thing would be to call the police.

  So, the parents are fearful for their own lives, and the police aren't allowed to be fearful for their own lives and take precautions like wearing body armor?  The parents just expected a Hollywood ending where a kindly old police officer takes off the vest, risks his/her own life and smoothly says the perfect words, that perfectly penetrate the angst of the would be suicide.

The guy shot himself, there's very little the police could have done to prevent that.  No one else got shot, that's a positive outcome.
 
2017-07-17 08:01:49 AM  
What is the primary purpose of police? Beyond paperwork and investigations, it's not protecting the public. No, the primary purpose of the police is to neutralize threats. Insofar as the police are concerned, and the people who voted in a police force with that modus operandi, it can only be seen as mission accomplished.

If you own guns the police will kill you if they perceive you as a threat. If you are having a mental breakdown the police will kill you if they perceive you as a threat. If you are nonwhite the police will kill you if they perceive you as a threat (if you won't listen to me, at least give Chris Rock a chance, might just save your life). Heck sometimes they even shoot white people, but they try to keep it out of the news (offer may not be valid in Zimbabwe).

How "duh" can we get on this? How many more times do we have to see a police killing before we simply accept it not only as reality but as the political will of the democratic republican populace? I'd bet a dollar at the casino that this victim's parents voted for the very politicians that enabled this sort of environment to emerge. But not more than a dollar. I dislike games of chance even when rigged in my favor.

It's all about perception.
 
2017-07-17 08:01:57 AM  

idrow: Parents had to learn the hard way that cops are not there to help and should only be called as a last result. to farkin' kill bishes.


FTFY.
 
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