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2017-07-17 03:09:44 AM  
A stable food supply at affordable prices is socialism!
 
2017-07-17 04:27:58 AM  
"We are surprised at the failure of the government to address a huge set of issues related to [PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING]. They give the impression of sort of sleepwalking into this."

There's the money quote for pretty much any Brexit story. The May government is concerned with one thing and one thing only: avoiding a PR crisis that might trigger a no-confidence vote. That means studiously avoiding any sort of planning for concrete practicalities, since that would require coming to terms with the fact that Brexit will mean Britain gets poorer and weaker with little gain but the theoretical ability to repeal consumer-safety and human-rights laws.

And given how unbelievably shiatty May is at damage control, any sort of concrete, irreversible bad news on Brexit could easily trigger a PR crisis that results in either the Leave or Remain factions in the Conservative party deciding (A) that May isn't going to survive until 2019, and (B) they might as well take their shot now rather than let the other faction do it.

May's blindfolded and on a tightrope, and her strategy to avoid falling off so far has been to avoid taking any actual steps in any direction whatsoever. And in the short term that's the safe political strategy. But in the long term, these sorts of real-world, how-is-my-business-going-to-operate problems are going to continue to pile up, as May continues to dance around the real questions and real problems involved in Brexit, fearing to publicly admit Britain's negotiating position is actually too weak to secure the trade-nothing-to-get-everything outcome she has been promising.

It would be better for the country if she would just be straight with the public and present the costs and benefits of the options going forward, so that the government and people could make an informed decision about what its priorities actually are, who will gain, and who will lose. But if then again, if the Brexiteers had ever been willing to do that, well, we wouldn't have had a Brexit.
 
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2017-07-17 06:53:43 AM  
They will just go back to eating faggots in gravy.
img.fark.net
 
2017-07-17 07:11:40 AM  
Which is nice
 
2017-07-17 07:13:14 AM  
I'm starting to think this Brexit thing wasn't thoroughly hashed out.
 
2017-07-17 07:14:44 AM  
no more spotted dick and edible machine lubricant?
 
2017-07-17 07:17:43 AM  
Inb4 resident canukistanbrexiter.
 
2017-07-17 07:25:29 AM  
Can't they eat all the irregular bananas that they'll be able to import now?

Or was it coconuts? I lost track.
 
2017-07-17 07:28:56 AM  
Let them eat curry.
 
2017-07-17 07:31:19 AM  
Call back the aliens
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2017-07-17 07:32:34 AM  

VictoryCabal: Can't they eat all the irregular bananas that they'll be able to import now?


They could always import those. They just couldn't be sold as "Quality Class I" or "Quality Class II". That's all what was to the "bendy bananas" saga, you couldn't claim that your bananas were top quality if they were too crooked. But no, the tabloids had to weave their tales of deceit.  And this was just one blatant lie in a barrage that lasted the better part of three, if not four, decades.
 
2017-07-17 07:33:11 AM  

pkjun: "We are surprised at the failure of the government to address a huge set of issues related to [PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING]. They give the impression of sort of sleepwalking into this."

There's the money quote for pretty much any Brexit story. The May government is concerned with one thing and one thing only: avoiding a PR crisis that might trigger a no-confidence vote. That means studiously avoiding any sort of planning for concrete practicalities, since that would require coming to terms with the fact that Brexit will mean Britain gets poorer and weaker with little gain but the theoretical ability to repeal consumer-safety and human-rights laws.

And given how unbelievably shiatty May is at damage control, any sort of concrete, irreversible bad news on Brexit could easily trigger a PR crisis that results in either the Leave or Remain factions in the Conservative party deciding (A) that May isn't going to survive until 2019, and (B) they might as well take their shot now rather than let the other faction do it.

May's blindfolded and on a tightrope, and her strategy to avoid falling off so far has been to avoid taking any actual steps in any direction whatsoever. And in the short term that's the safe political strategy. But in the long term, these sorts of real-world, how-is-my-business-going-to-operate problems are going to continue to pile up, as May continues to dance around the real questions and real problems involved in Brexit, fearing to publicly admit Britain's negotiating position is actually too weak to secure the trade-nothing-to-get-everything outcome she has been promising.

It would be better for the country if she would just be straight with the public and present the costs and benefits of the options going forward, so that the government and people could make an informed decision about what its priorities actually are, who will gain, and who will lose. But if then again, if the Brexiteers had ever been willing to do that, well, we wouldn't have had a Brex ...


It's astounded me in the last 18 months, the terrible job that politicians will do for the country, to serve their own ends. It's like they don't understand the stakes. But actually it's that they don't care.
 
2017-07-17 07:36:28 AM  
Written by food policy experts from three universities, it is published on the day David Davis, the Brexit secretary, heads to Brussels for a second round of formal talks with the EU on departure arrangements.

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Have some Brussels Sprouts - they're luverly!
 
2017-07-17 07:39:11 AM  
Two data points from the article:
- poors will be effected disproportionately
- trading food with the US is dangerous because of relaxed food safety standards

 Sounds like y'all thought this through.
 
2017-07-17 07:42:10 AM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: Written by food policy experts from three universities, it is published on the day David Davis, the Brexit secretary, heads to Brussels for a second round of formal talks with the EU on departure arrangements.

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Have some Brussels Sprouts - they're luverly!


What is up with those eyes?
 
2017-07-17 07:42:13 AM  
I was assured that Britain had nothing to lose and everything to gain by Brexit and that the EU would give Britain whatever it wanted because they need Britain so much.

I am shocked to find that might not be the case.
 
2017-07-17 07:49:02 AM  

Thenixon: Day_Old_Dutchie: Written by food policy experts from three universities, it is published on the day David Davis, the Brexit secretary, heads to Brussels for a second round of formal talks with the EU on departure arrangements.

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Have some Brussels Sprouts - they're luverly!

What is up with those eyes?


The artist's hand slipped Photoshopping the plate of petits pois.
 
2017-07-17 07:54:55 AM  

hinten: trading food with the US is dangerous because of relaxed food safety standards


Say what?
 
2017-07-17 07:55:41 AM  
Let them eat boiled cake.
 
2017-07-17 07:59:41 AM  
The Irish are amused.

"Remember the 1800s, ya limey gits?"
 
2017-07-17 08:03:38 AM  

Smoking GNU: Inb4 resident canukistanbrexiter.


He's been late to the party for the last several of these threads
 
2017-07-17 08:05:12 AM  
There's plenty to eat in the UK, if you're not choosey...

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PS: Is img.fark.com loading images really farking slow for anyone else?
 
2017-07-17 08:07:20 AM  

Armchair_Invective: Let them eat curry.


Oh restaurants and takeaways are screwed too, but that should be ok because Brexiteers have a very specific diet anyway:

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2017-07-17 08:13:13 AM  

cman: hinten: trading food with the US is dangerous because of relaxed food safety standards

Say what?


 What what?  Article says exactly that.
 
2017-07-17 08:13:31 AM  
Just spring for another vote.
Maybe the US should take that advice.
 
2017-07-17 08:25:54 AM  

And I've just finished my milk: Armchair_Invective: Let them eat curry.

Oh restaurants and takeaways are screwed too, but that should be ok because Brexiteers have a very specific diet anyway:

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TruBrexiteers don't want curries prepared by filthy ethnics. They'll have their vindaloos, sweet-and-sours, pizzas, tapas, and peri-peris all cooked by the English, thank you very much, just as they were before all these foreigners came in to ruin England.
 
2017-07-17 08:40:13 AM  
I can't believe this is happening.

Pride, and selfishness, and incompetence are winning out over common sense. And the stakes are the wellbeing of our society and the strength of this country. And no one with any influence is being a grownup.

WHAT THE fark?! How did it come to this?
 
2017-07-17 08:43:07 AM  
Qu'ils mangent de la brioche
 
2017-07-17 08:46:19 AM  

hinten: Two data points from the article:
- poors will be effected disproportionately
- trading food with the US is dangerous because of relaxed food safety standards

 Sounds like y'all thought this through.


"especially if a trade deal with the US mandated the import of hormone-injected beef and chicken washed in chlorine. "

That was what stuck out to me as well. The UK does not have the leverage that the EU has in negotiating trade deals. And it doesn't stop there, the UK is going to be forced to allow fake parmesan, with wood pulp, miss labeled food (contents labeled as serving size, rather than anything comparable), and all the other complete crap US consumers has to put up with.

No, you don't /have/ to import it. You just won't be allowed to forbid it, like the EU can. And if you can import cheap crap food, its going to happen.
 
2017-07-17 08:48:55 AM  

Lady J: I can't believe this is happening.

Pride, and selfishness, and incompetence are winning out over common sense. And the stakes are the wellbeing of our society and the strength of this country. And no one with any influence is being a grownup.

WHAT THE fark?! How did it come to this?


I don't know, but I'm saying the EXACT same thing over here in the US.
 
2017-07-17 08:55:13 AM  
What a load of rubbish.  Just last week I read that they're going to be raising the chocolate ration to 20 grammes per week.
 
2017-07-17 08:57:24 AM  

Ketchuponsteak: hinten: Two data points from the article:
- poors will be effected disproportionately
- trading food with the US is dangerous because of relaxed food safety standards

 Sounds like y'all thought this through.

"especially if a trade deal with the US mandated the import of hormone-injected beef and chicken washed in chlorine. "

That was what stuck out to me as well. The UK does not have the leverage that the EU has in negotiating trade deals. And it doesn't stop there, the UK is going to be forced to allow fake parmesan, with wood pulp, miss labeled food (contents labeled as serving size, rather than anything comparable), and all the other complete crap US consumers has to put up with.

No, you don't /have/ to import it. You just won't be allowed to forbid it, like the EU can. And if you can import cheap crap food, its going to happen.


When I moved to the UK, I was amazed at the quality of foodstuffs sold here. I instantly became a ten-times-better cook.
 
2017-07-17 09:00:08 AM  

Archidude: I was assured


Congratulations on perpetuating the dumbest meme ever. Anything you wrote after that is surely stupid.
 
2017-07-17 09:01:32 AM  

cman: hinten: trading food with the US is dangerous because of relaxed food safety standards

Say what?


Your food standards are crap. Your requirements for labeling food is crap.
 
2017-07-17 09:02:11 AM  

Ketchuponsteak: Archidude: I was assured

Congratulations on perpetuating the dumbest meme ever. Anything you wrote after that is surely stupid.


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2017-07-17 09:03:22 AM  

Alternative Facts: Ketchuponsteak: hinten: Two data points from the article:
- poors will be effected disproportionately
- trading food with the US is dangerous because of relaxed food safety standards

 Sounds like y'all thought this through.

"especially if a trade deal with the US mandated the import of hormone-injected beef and chicken washed in chlorine. "

That was what stuck out to me as well. The UK does not have the leverage that the EU has in negotiating trade deals. And it doesn't stop there, the UK is going to be forced to allow fake parmesan, with wood pulp, miss labeled food (contents labeled as serving size, rather than anything comparable), and all the other complete crap US consumers has to put up with.

No, you don't /have/ to import it. You just won't be allowed to forbid it, like the EU can. And if you can import cheap crap food, its going to happen.

When I moved to the UK, I was amazed at the quality of foodstuffs sold here. I instantly became a ten-times-better cook.


Where do you live? In London we're so spoiled for good food.

I hope that doesnt change : (
 
2017-07-17 09:04:05 AM  

Lady J: I can't believe this is happening.

Pride, and selfishness, and incompetence are winning out over common sense. And the stakes are the wellbeing of our society and the strength of this country. And no one with any influence is being a grownup.

WHAT THE fark?! How did it come to this?


The internet.  It is an amazingly cheap and efficient tool for radicalizing people. Heck, I'm one of those people that have been radicalized, but rather than being a virulent racist I'm just an anti-capitalist.
 
2017-07-17 09:05:08 AM  

Alternative Facts: Ketchuponsteak: hinten: Two data points from the article:
- poors will be effected disproportionately
- trading food with the US is dangerous because of relaxed food safety standards

 Sounds like y'all thought this through.

"especially if a trade deal with the US mandated the import of hormone-injected beef and chicken washed in chlorine. "

That was what stuck out to me as well. The UK does not have the leverage that the EU has in negotiating trade deals. And it doesn't stop there, the UK is going to be forced to allow fake parmesan, with wood pulp, miss labeled food (contents labeled as serving size, rather than anything comparable), and all the other complete crap US consumers has to put up with.

No, you don't /have/ to import it. You just won't be allowed to forbid it, like the EU can. And if you can import cheap crap food, its going to happen.

When I moved to the UK, I was amazed at the quality of foodstuffs sold here. I instantly became a ten-times-better cook.


You should check out France, the Vallon part of Belgium or Spain. Wow, the quality and selection of food is just amazing. (compared to the UK, and the Nordic nation I am familiar with).

Germany has amazing food in their supermarkets as well. Exempt from VAT as well.
 
2017-07-17 09:05:23 AM  

Ketchuponsteak: cman: hinten: trading food with the US is dangerous because of relaxed food safety standards

Say what?

Your food standards are crap. Your requirements for labeling food is crap.


You just put "All Natural" on the box and it fixes everything.
 
2017-07-17 09:05:27 AM  

Ketchuponsteak: cman: hinten: trading food with the US is dangerous because of relaxed food safety standards

Say what?

Your food standards are crap. Your requirements for labeling food is crap.


One thing that surprised me, when living in the USA, is that everywhere it was advised to cook your eggs well, in order to prevent food poisoning.

Coming from the country of steak tartare, I thought "how shiatty is the food production here that raw eggs is dangerous to eat ?"
 
2017-07-17 09:10:56 AM  

padraig: Ketchuponsteak: cman: hinten: trading food with the US is dangerous because of relaxed food safety standards

Say what?

Your food standards are crap. Your requirements for labeling food is crap.

One thing that surprised me, when living in the USA, is that everywhere it was advised to cook your eggs well, in order to prevent food poisoning.

Coming from the country of steak tartare, I thought "how shiatty is the food production here that raw eggs is dangerous to eat ?"


Eggs are processed very differently in America. As they don't like the idea of unclean food, and therefore to avoid any chance a stray feather may end up in a box of eggs, they pressure wash them before packaging. This causes microbes from the exterior of the egg to be forced inside the egg. This means that not only do eggs need to be more fully cooked in America, they also have to store them in the fridge*.

*exceptions may apply to farmers markets, etc.
 
2017-07-17 09:12:02 AM  
That's okay. The Mail, the Sun and the Express will be happy to blame skyrocketing grocery bills on brown people literally eating British taxpayers out of house and home.

This was never about economic reality. This was about having the satisfaction of telling Those People where to go without winding up as a headline in Metro.
 
2017-07-17 09:12:57 AM  

Lady J: Alternative Facts: Ketchuponsteak: hinten: Two data points from the article:
- poors will be effected disproportionately
- trading food with the US is dangerous because of relaxed food safety standards

 Sounds like y'all thought this through.

"especially if a trade deal with the US mandated the import of hormone-injected beef and chicken washed in chlorine. "

That was what stuck out to me as well. The UK does not have the leverage that the EU has in negotiating trade deals. And it doesn't stop there, the UK is going to be forced to allow fake parmesan, with wood pulp, miss labeled food (contents labeled as serving size, rather than anything comparable), and all the other complete crap US consumers has to put up with.

No, you don't /have/ to import it. You just won't be allowed to forbid it, like the EU can. And if you can import cheap crap food, its going to happen.

When I moved to the UK, I was amazed at the quality of foodstuffs sold here. I instantly became a ten-times-better cook.

Where do you live? In London we're so spoiled for good food.

I hope that doesnt change : (


I'm in New Town Edinburgh for several years now. Love the food in London, too.
 
2017-07-17 09:16:10 AM  

Ketchuponsteak: Alternative Facts: Ketchuponsteak: hinten: Two data points from the article:
- poors will be effected disproportionately
- trading food with the US is dangerous because of relaxed food safety standards

 Sounds like y'all thought this through.

"especially if a trade deal with the US mandated the import of hormone-injected beef and chicken washed in chlorine. "

That was what stuck out to me as well. The UK does not have the leverage that the EU has in negotiating trade deals. And it doesn't stop there, the UK is going to be forced to allow fake parmesan, with wood pulp, miss labeled food (contents labeled as serving size, rather than anything comparable), and all the other complete crap US consumers has to put up with.

No, you don't /have/ to import it. You just won't be allowed to forbid it, like the EU can. And if you can import cheap crap food, its going to happen.

When I moved to the UK, I was amazed at the quality of foodstuffs sold here. I instantly became a ten-times-better cook.

You should check out France, the Vallon part of Belgium or Spain. Wow, the quality and selection of food is just amazing. (compared to the UK, and the Nordic nation I am familiar with).

Germany has amazing food in their supermarkets as well. Exempt from VAT as well.


Yes, we spend time in Blois often. The downtown market there brings tears to my wife's eyes.

No VAT on foodstuffs in the UK, either.
 
2017-07-17 09:17:10 AM  

Ketchuponsteak: Alternative Facts: Ketchuponsteak: hinten: Two data points from the article:
- poors will be effected disproportionately
- trading food with the US is dangerous because of relaxed food safety standards

 Sounds like y'all thought this through.

"especially if a trade deal with the US mandated the import of hormone-injected beef and chicken washed in chlorine. "

That was what stuck out to me as well. The UK does not have the leverage that the EU has in negotiating trade deals. And it doesn't stop there, the UK is going to be forced to allow fake parmesan, with wood pulp, miss labeled food (contents labeled as serving size, rather than anything comparable), and all the other complete crap US consumers has to put up with.

No, you don't /have/ to import it. You just won't be allowed to forbid it, like the EU can. And if you can import cheap crap food, its going to happen.

When I moved to the UK, I was amazed at the quality of foodstuffs sold here. I instantly became a ten-times-better cook.

You should check out France, the Vallon part of Belgium or Spain. Wow, the quality and selection of food is just amazing. (compared to the UK, and the Nordic nation I am familiar with).

Germany has amazing food in their supermarkets as well. Exempt from VAT as well.


Not sure I'd agree with that. My mum lives in France, and I visit three or four times a year. Selection is narrower than we get in the UK and it's more expensive.
 
2017-07-17 09:25:46 AM  

Billy69: padraig: Ketchuponsteak: cman: hinten: trading food with the US is dangerous because of relaxed food safety standards

Say what?

Your food standards are crap. Your requirements for labeling food is crap.

One thing that surprised me, when living in the USA, is that everywhere it was advised to cook your eggs well, in order to prevent food poisoning.

Coming from the country of steak tartare, I thought "how shiatty is the food production here that raw eggs is dangerous to eat ?"

Eggs are processed very differently in America. As they don't like the idea of unclean food, and therefore to avoid any chance a stray feather may end up in a box of eggs, they pressure wash them before packaging. This causes microbes from the exterior of the egg to be forced inside the egg. This means that not only do eggs need to be more fully cooked in America, they also have to store them in the fridge*.

*exceptions may apply to farmers markets, etc.


Neat!

As an American, I had no idea!
 
2017-07-17 09:40:26 AM  

Billy69: padraig: Ketchuponsteak: cman: hinten: trading food with the US is dangerous because of relaxed food safety standards

Say what?

Your food standards are crap. Your requirements for labeling food is crap.

One thing that surprised me, when living in the USA, is that everywhere it was advised to cook your eggs well, in order to prevent food poisoning.

Coming from the country of steak tartare, I thought "how shiatty is the food production here that raw eggs is dangerous to eat ?"

Eggs are processed very differently in America. As they don't like the idea of unclean food, and therefore to avoid any chance a stray feather may end up in a box of eggs, they pressure wash them before packaging. This causes microbes from the exterior of the egg to be forced inside the egg. This means that not only do eggs need to be more fully cooked in America, they also have to store them in the fridge*.

*exceptions may apply to farmers markets, etc.


Well, I did not know that the washing was the cause of that.

Anyway, what's funny is that, unwashed eggs are forbidden in the USA, where washed eggs are verboten in the UK.
 
2017-07-17 09:49:35 AM  

born_yesterday: I'm starting to think this Brexit thing wasn't thoroughly hashed out.


But our Trump voters here assured me it was the bestest thing EVER.

Surely you don't think THEIR judgement is suspect?
 
2017-07-17 09:55:28 AM  
You know, I just came here to snark about, "You guys could do with a food crisis or two, last I checked, durrhurr fat joke," but then everyone came bearing facts and a surprising amount of manners.

...

......

.........

YOU GUYS COULD DO WITH A FOOD CRISIS OR TWO DURRHURR FAT JOKE!
 
2017-07-17 10:01:26 AM  
Dear God, without the EU they might be reduced to eating excessively bendy bananas, like ... like ... animals.
 
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