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(Daily Express)   Workers repairing toilets aboard haunted luxury liner The Queen Mary rediscover long-forgotten room. No word yet on whether the Ghostbusters need to be called (Some Not safe for work content in sidebar)   ( express.co.uk) divider line
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2017-07-16 04:44:48 PM  
All the pictures are in black & white (or sepia toned). Reminds me of this...

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2017-07-16 04:47:30 PM  
Joe The Plumber.
 
2017-07-16 05:22:54 PM  
files.explosm.net
 
2017-07-16 06:15:39 PM  
I remember this happened during the overhaul of one of the Navy's Aircraft Carriers, they found several spaces that had been closed off in a previous yard period
 
2017-07-16 06:16:33 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-07-16 06:17:52 PM  
Perhaps an Analrapist is what they need?
 
2017-07-16 06:21:14 PM  
Wow, they blasted right past the part about the worker discovering a glory hole.

It was just a hole in the back wall of a bathroom. Leading to a semi-private room only accessible to a few people. Nothing to see here.
 
2017-07-16 06:21:38 PM  
Poop deck ?
 
2017-07-16 06:25:30 PM  
The Throne Room?
 
2017-07-16 06:30:32 PM  
How do you forget about a boat's chain locker?
 
2017-07-16 06:32:30 PM  
It's a machinery room housing the anchor hoisting machinery. QM was a really cool thing, too bad theyve neglected her for so long. big ships take big money to operate and maintain...
 
2017-07-16 06:33:57 PM  
 
2017-07-16 06:47:36 PM  
"Haunted".
 
2017-07-16 06:48:32 PM  
Did the workers not check the blueprints before doing the work? Did their supervisor check them?
 
2017-07-16 06:51:16 PM  
Love & Rockets - Haunted When The Minutes Drag
Youtube 9BERkLsJYe0
 
2017-07-16 06:53:34 PM  
The Queen Mary was built in Scotland.
Why is it 'America's most haunted ship'?

/ Inquiring minds want to know.
 
2017-07-16 06:54:16 PM  

swamp_of_dumb: How do you forget about a boat's chain locker?


Right! In construction we call them 'Blueprints'.
 
2017-07-16 06:55:57 PM  

SloppyFrenchKisser: The Queen Mary was built in Scotland.
Why is it 'America's most haunted ship'?

/ Inquiring minds want to know.


I figure because it's in America.
 
2017-07-16 07:00:33 PM  

SloppyFrenchKisser: The Queen Mary was built in Scotland.
Why is it 'America's most haunted ship'?

/ Inquiring minds want to know.


Because it's now owned by the City of Long Beach.
 
2017-07-16 07:01:46 PM  

W.C.fields forever: swamp_of_dumb: How do you forget about a boat's chain locker?

Right! In construction we call them 'Blueprints'.


Do actual blueprints even last that long? I know they fade quite a bit in just a few years.
 
2017-07-16 07:03:49 PM  
Is this the ship that used to be on Unsolved Mysteries in the late 80s? They used to have "ghostly recordings"?
 
2017-07-16 07:11:20 PM  

SloppyFrenchKisser: The Queen Mary was built in Scotland.
Why is it 'America's most haunted ship'?

/ Inquiring minds want to know.


Guess where it is now.
 
2017-07-16 07:16:25 PM  

swamp_of_dumb: How do you forget about a boat's chain locker?


When's the last time they've hauled up the anchor?  They said the room is practically pristine; I bet the last time it went from the anchorage they just shut everything off, closed the door, and just never went back in the space for 60 years.
 
2017-07-16 07:21:36 PM  
Here's some news. No place is haunted. Ghosts aren't real.
 
2017-07-16 07:23:59 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-07-16 07:26:37 PM  

Russ1642: Here's some news. No place is haunted. Ghosts aren't real.


How do we know you're not a ghost, just saying that to throw us off the scent?
 
2017-07-16 07:44:23 PM  

gregscott: W.C.fields forever: swamp_of_dumb: How do you forget about a boat's chain locker?

Right! In construction we call them 'Blueprints'.

Do actual blueprints even last that long? I know they fade quite a bit in just a few years.


The actual Blue process copies were indeed pretty fade-tacular, but the architects in that time were used to producing a hand-drawn final copy or 3 of the blueprint/s in regular old paper and ink.  Those last as well as anything done that way.  There were also plenty of methods used to create copies even back then - mimeographs, stencil systems... they had the technology.  There were even primitive photocopying systems available to some - Rectigraph and in the early 1900's Photostats were coming along - so it's not at all out of the question there would be a decent copy left somewhere.  People would even pretty regularly have someone copy old blueprints if the original was getting too fade-y by hand - so you'd end up with a new pen and ink copy.

/thanks Fark - you occaisonally provide opportunities to use the weirdest damn trivia in a vaguely relevant fashion
 
2017-07-16 07:45:44 PM  

skiinstructor: It's a machinery room housing the anchor hoisting machinery. QM was a really cool thing, too bad theyve neglected her for so long. big ships take big money to operate and maintain...


They've been renovating and restoring it since the late 90's. Even just between the 2 times I've stayed on it, ~2004 and ~2006 new areas were opened to visitors. I think it's just a long process, and amazingly, it's really affordable to stay in, especially for being on Long Beach and a historical hotel.
 
2017-07-16 07:52:08 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: gregscott: W.C.fields forever: swamp_of_dumb: How do you forget about a boat's chain locker?

Right! In construction we call them 'Blueprints'.

Do actual blueprints even last that long? I know they fade quite a bit in just a few years.

The actual Blue process copies were indeed pretty fade-tacular, but the architects in that time were used to producing a hand-drawn final copy or 3 of the blueprint/s in regular old paper and ink.  Those last as well as anything done that way.  There were also plenty of methods used to create copies even back then - mimeographs, stencil systems... they had the technology.  There were even primitive photocopying systems available to some - Rectigraph and in the early 1900's Photostats were coming along - so it's not at all out of the question there would be a decent copy left somewhere.  People would even pretty regularly have someone copy old blueprints if the original was getting too fade-y by hand - so you'd end up with a new pen and ink copy.

/thanks Fark - you occaisonally provide opportunities to use the weirdest damn trivia in a vaguely relevant fashion


I was going to respond I don't see why not,adding nothing to the thread.You added to the thread.
 
2017-07-16 08:03:23 PM  
How can the Queen Mary be haunted when there are no such things as ghosts?
 
2017-07-16 08:07:01 PM  

swamp_of_dumb: How do you forget about a boat's chain locker?


She hasn't moved for 50 years and she's inside a little rock walled lagoon.
 
2017-07-16 08:12:37 PM  

W.C.fields forever: SloppyFrenchKisser: The Queen Mary was built in Scotland.
Why is it 'America's most haunted ship'?

/ Inquiring minds want to know.

I figure because it's in America.


Not buying it.
Sloppy reporting.
 
2017-07-16 08:12:48 PM  
I was in San Pedro (across the port from Long Beach) in 2006 when the new RMS Queen Mary 2 made its first visit to California.

On her way out, she stopped by the Queen Mary and they tooted their horns at each other in salute.

/ One of QM2's horns is a QM1 horn on long-term loan to Cunard from the city of Long Beach.
// MP3 of the restored horn here (MP3 file).
 
2017-07-16 08:38:22 PM  
Are those old pictures or just some stupid hipster trying to be artsy?
 
2017-07-16 08:43:54 PM  

gregscott: W.C.fields forever: swamp_of_dumb: How do you forget about a boat's chain locker?

Right! In construction we call them 'Blueprints'.

Do actual blueprints even last that long? I know they fade quite a bit in just a few years.


Some do. I have seen 100 year old blue prints that were still in fine shape despite being stored on top of steam pipes for decades.
 
2017-07-16 08:47:40 PM  

Bermuda59: I remember this happened during the overhaul of one of the Navy's Aircraft Carriers, they found several spaces that had been closed off in a previous yard period


A) the story is apocryphal

B) it was a Battleship

Part of the plausibility of a battleship is that they did undergo extensive modifications midlife, and also did spend decades in and out of mothballs. There were also so many classes and designed that you really could "lose" a space and not know it from the general arrangement drawings.

Aircraft carriers, while many do go through midlife overhauls all tend to be a pretty standard design, with a dozen or more copies per class. (Notable exceptions being the Enterprise and Midway, which were the only ships in their class.)
 
2017-07-16 08:48:05 PM  

abhorrent1: Are those old pictures or just some stupid hipster trying to be artsy?


Those are old photos. I haven't been there in over ten years, but nothing was restored to perfect 1930s elegance like this.

cdn.images.express.co.uk
 
2017-07-16 08:51:56 PM  

jaytkay: abhorrent1: Are those old pictures or just some stupid hipster trying to be artsy?

Those are old photos. I haven't been there in over ten years, but nothing was restored to perfect 1930s elegance like this.

[cdn.images.express.co.uk image 590x701]


So it's another "Look what we found but we're not going to show you what we found" article?

I hate everyone involved.
 
2017-07-16 08:54:20 PM  
tse3.mm.bing.net
You done yet.
 
2017-07-16 08:58:01 PM  

abhorrent1: So it's another "Look what we found but we're not going to show you what we found" article?


I think the anchor room photo is recent. It's labeled "Facebook". The old photos are labeled BNPS which is a stock source like Getty Images.
cdn.images.express.co.uk
 
2017-07-16 09:24:11 PM  

jaytkay: abhorrent1: So it's another "Look what we found but we're not going to show you what we found" article?

I think the anchor room photo is recent. It's labeled "Facebook". The old photos are labeled BNPS which is a stock source like Getty Images.
[cdn.images.express.co.uk image 590x498]


That looks like an old photo, taken with the same sort of camera as the others. Maybe it was just taken from a Facebook page with the ship's historical information. Nobody would be taking current photos in black and white, nor with such a strong flash. Here's one from a local news source:

img.fark.net
http://www.presstelegram.com/lifestyle/20170707/workers-aboard-queen-​m​ary-just-made-a-startling-discovery-a-hidden-room

Pristine condition, my ass. The room may not have been exposed to much fresh air over the last 50 years, but you can see plenty of rust and other deterioration in this and other photos at the above link. It's superficial enough that everything could probably be restored, though.
 
2017-07-16 09:28:37 PM  

cyberspacedout: Here's one from a local news source:


OK, thanks.
 
2017-07-16 09:33:51 PM  

jaytkay: cyberspacedout: Here's one from a local news source:

OK, thanks.


You're welcome. It really does look like TFA is trying to pass off a historical photo as current - but I suppose The Express is one of those sources with as much journalistic integrity as The Daily Mail. Fun reading about those naked zookeepers, though.
 
2017-07-16 09:43:50 PM  

four-stringed farris: [img.fark.net image 425x236]


img.fark.net
 
2017-07-16 10:29:23 PM  

Repo Man: "Haunted".


The same claim used by pretty much every tourist trap in America, the Queen Mary included.  What better way to fleece a few more rubes then by claiming "some say it's haunted, people have claimed to see ghosts late at night, blah, blah, blah"  It's a tried and true strategy with zero additional cost, other than the cost of ones integrity.
 
2017-07-16 11:00:16 PM  

hlehmann: Repo Man: "Haunted".

The same claim used by pretty much every tourist trap in America, the Queen Mary included.  What better way to fleece a few more rubes then by claiming "some say it's haunted, people have claimed to see ghosts late at night, blah, blah, blah"  It's a tried and true strategy with zero additional cost, other than the cost of ones integrity. I HATE FUN!


fixed
 
2017-07-16 11:56:33 PM  

Evil Twin Skippy: Bermuda59: I remember this happened during the overhaul of one of the Navy's Aircraft Carriers, they found several spaces that had been closed off in a previous yard period

A) the story is apocryphal

B) it was a Battleship

Part of the plausibility of a battleship is that they did undergo extensive modifications midlife, and also did spend decades in and out of mothballs. There were also so many classes and designed that you really could "lose" a space and not know it from the general arrangement drawings.

Aircraft carriers, while many do go through midlife overhauls all tend to be a pretty standard design, with a dozen or more copies per class. (Notable exceptions being the Enterprise and Midway, which were the only ships in their class.)


I would think that would make it more likely that there would be internal differences, not less.  They're always tinkering with the design of ships.

Something like the Essex class for instance, with so many of them built, so many update programs, and variations of update programs; I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that the internal layout of Lexington was significantly different from that of Oriskany by the time they reached the end of their service lives.
 
2017-07-17 12:33:09 AM  
Sidebar, sidebar, wait, what was this about the Queen Marry?
 
2017-07-17 12:48:22 AM  
CSB

My dad was an engineer on the QM in the 50s

/CSB
 
2017-07-17 01:24:40 AM  

abhorrent1: hlehmann: Repo Man: "Haunted".

The same claim used by pretty much every tourist trap in America, the Queen Mary included.  What better way to fleece a few more rubes then by claiming "some say it's haunted, people have claimed to see ghosts late at night, blah, blah, blah"  It's a tried and true strategy with zero additional cost, other than the cost of ones integrity. I HATE FUN!

fixed


The sheer abject irony of this post is not lost on me at all.

I would cry, but I just woke and need that bodyfluid till my coffee boils.
 
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