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2017-07-16 01:36:03 PM  
Prosecutors office in New Jersey are reviewing a video filmed by a man who caught a plainclothes law enforcement officer searching through his parked minivan, apparently without permission.

Presumably, in an attempt to find a means of charging the man who recorded the officer with a crime.
 
2017-07-16 01:41:08 PM  
The sheriff's office would not identify the officer

Farking trash.
 
2017-07-16 01:44:08 PM  

holdmybones: The sheriff's office would not identify the officer

Farking trash.


To add on...

I mean, meathead asshole with man bun. How hard could it be to identify?
 
2017-07-16 01:59:30 PM  

holdmybones: The sheriff's office would not identify the officer

Farking trash.


A guy with a man bun probably UC hey criminals in Jersey here you go, don't sell drugs to this guy.
 
2017-07-16 02:20:29 PM  
FTA: "we're getting a lot of complaints about guns,"

. . .and that doesn't give you the right to make random warrantless searches of peoples vehicles.

I don't know NJ gun laws, but in KY it's perfectly legal to keep a gun in your vehicle, as long as it's secured in a factory-installed compartment (i.e. glove box or center console).
 
2017-07-16 02:21:14 PM  
Asshole is a thief caught in the act

His job will soon be forbye
 
2017-07-16 02:37:32 PM  
He was just looking for cash to place under arrest.  That cash stuff can be dangerous.
 
2017-07-16 02:38:56 PM  

Silverstaff: I don't know NJ gun laws


New Jersey hates guns with the blazing passion of a million suns.

/this is only a slight exaggeration
 
2017-07-16 02:59:15 PM  
There are several lawful reasons why a cop can search a vehicle without a warrant, but this incident doesn't appear to contain any of them. If the cop actually had a reason for a warrantless search, why didn't he explain that to the vehicle's owner instead of stopping his search and walking away? My guess would be that the guy is known to the cops and the cop was doing an unconstitutional exploratory search expecting to find something incriminating. Would have been interesting to see how he explained the search is he had found something.
 
2017-07-16 03:10:02 PM  
The 4th amendment is just about dead.
 
2017-07-16 03:21:33 PM  
Hello, Patterson, where you're really at a legal disadvantage being black.
 
2017-07-16 03:32:27 PM  

CruiserTwelve: There are several lawful reasons why a cop can search a vehicle without a warrant, but this incident doesn't appear to contain any of them. If the cop actually had a reason for a warrantless search, why didn't he explain that to the vehicle's owner instead of stopping his search and walking away? My guess would be that the guy is known to the cops and the cop was doing an unconstitutional exploratory search expecting to find something incriminating. Would have been interesting to see how he explained the search is he had found something.


Because he didn't have a reason, and throwing in the explanation for the search exemptions into the article would have taken quite a while and turned it from a brief news article and into a course in search & seizure law.

As for explaining the search if he found something, I'm sure he would have said something about smelling marijuana (if he found some drugs) or he thought he saw a gun in plain sight (when he actually dug it up out of a compartment or container), to have it fit the "Plain view" doctrine for a warrantless search.
 
2017-07-16 03:50:58 PM  

CruiserTwelve: There are several lawful reasons why a cop can search a vehicle without a warrant, but this incident doesn't appear to contain any of them. If the cop actually had a reason for a warrantless search, why didn't he explain that to the vehicle's owner instead of stopping his search and walking away? My guess would be that the guy is known to the cops and the cop was doing an unconstitutional exploratory search expecting to find something incriminating. Would have been interesting to see how he explained the search is he had found something.


Had he found something interesting would he have been able to lie and make his search acceptable under one of the justifications you referenced (honest question as I don't know the cases where it's allowed)? I mean, if he was ok with doing an illegal search is lying about it to make it ok much of a stretch?

Also, that UC's body language was criminal as hell, right? If someone acted like that when you approached them would you be more or less suspicious?
 
2017-07-16 04:38:20 PM  
Trying not to laugh...

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Winning...

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2017-07-16 04:39:07 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Trying not to laugh...

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trying...

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Winning...

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He laughed. Arrest him.
 
2017-07-16 04:39:28 PM  

CruiserTwelve: There are several lawful reasons why a cop can search a vehicle without a warrant, but this incident doesn't appear to contain any of them. If the cop actually had a reason for a warrantless search, why didn't he explain that to the vehicle's owner instead of stopping his search and walking away? My guess would be that the guy is known to the cops and the cop was doing an unconstitutional exploratory search expecting to find something incriminating. Would have been interesting to see how he explained the search is he had found something.


He would have lied. Like most cops.
 
2017-07-16 04:39:35 PM  
Seig, heil.
 
2017-07-16 04:40:18 PM  

CruiserTwelve: There are several lawful reasons why a cop can search a vehicle without a warrant, but this incident doesn't appear to contain any of them. If the cop actually had a reason for a warrantless search, why didn't he explain that to the vehicle's owner instead of stopping his search and walking away? My guess would be that the guy is known to the cops and the cop was doing an unconstitutional exploratory search expecting to find something incriminating. Would have been interesting to see how he explained the search is he had found something.


Even if he found something, it would be completely inadmissible. I could understand if there was a missing child or something like that; but, it seems like the officer conducted a random illegal search for no apparent reason.
 
2017-07-16 04:40:49 PM  
Plainclothes police should not have legal authority.

No uniform, no legal powers.
 
2017-07-16 04:42:41 PM  
Doesn't matter, pig cops and crooked DAs will figure out a way to make it legal.
 
2017-07-16 04:45:48 PM  
I always thought that if your house or car was unlocked the police could say they were just making sure everything was secure. It's inadmissible if they find something, but they can access and search.

I'm obviously not a lawyer. Is that remotely true?
 
2017-07-16 04:46:29 PM  
Of course you have the right to refuse to be searched. It just means you may be refused certain services, like travel.

If you don't want to be bound by the laws of this country, you always have the right to leave and go somewhere else.
 
2017-07-16 04:47:28 PM  
The problem is they keep moving the "unreasonable" goalpost. "Probable cause" is a sham cops use that means "because I farking felt like it".
 
2017-07-16 04:48:01 PM  
When the Attorney General himself is a Russian stooge, where is the rule of law?
 
2017-07-16 04:48:40 PM  

Prey4reign: Hello, Patterson, where you're really at a legal disadvantage being black.


Was it a black van? I couldn't tell.
 
2017-07-16 04:50:24 PM  

Silverstaff: FTA: "we're getting a lot of complaints about guns,"

. . .and that doesn't give you the right to make random warrantless searches of peoples vehicles.

I don't know NJ gun laws, but in KY it's perfectly legal to keep a gun in your vehicle, as long as it's secured in a factory-installed compartment (i.e. glove box or center console).


Yeah, but I'm sure that in his training and experience the car fit the profile of, um, a gun criminal or something, and because of the vehicle exception to the warrant requirement or whatever, he had exigent circumstances, in good faith, um . . . *smoke bomb*
 
2017-07-16 04:50:33 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Of course you have the right to refuse to be searched. It just means you may be refused certain services, like travel.

If you don't want to be bound by the laws of this country, you always have the right to leave and go somewhere else.


How about we change these unconstitutional laws and throw you out?
 
2017-07-16 04:51:22 PM  

Silverstaff: FTA: "we're getting a lot of complaints about guns,"

. . .and that doesn't give you the right to make random warrantless searches of peoples vehicles.

I don't know NJ gun laws, but in KY it's perfectly legal to keep a gun in your vehicle, as long as it's secured in a factory-installed compartment (i.e. glove box or center console).


It's illegal to have guns in New Jersey PERIOD.
Illegal search?  It's New Jersey.  Deal with it.
See:  Chris Chistie, Governor
 
2017-07-16 04:51:46 PM  

Jake Havechek: When the Attorney General himself is a Russian stooge, where is the rule of law?


In the toilet, even before he became a Russian stooge he was simply a racist who hasn't changed in 30 years. Now he's a racist traitor who wants to see the poor and minority marginalized and the wealthy and powerful protected from prosecution.
 
2017-07-16 04:52:22 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: It just means you may be refused certain services, like travel.


Did you mean driving privileges?  Or using transportation services such as a train, plane or taxi cab?
 
2017-07-16 04:52:57 PM  
Officer Man-Bun doesn't need a warrant. His hipster street cred is all he needs.
 
2017-07-16 04:55:22 PM  

cman: Asshole is a thief caught in the act

His job will soon be forbye


Nah. The internal investigation will show he acted properly.
 
2017-07-16 04:55:29 PM  

pikov.yndropov: AverageAmericanGuy: It just means you may be refused certain services, like travel.

Did you mean driving privileges?  Or using transportation services such as a train, plane or taxi cab?


He means, "lookie meee, mommy, i'm a trooooool!"
 
2017-07-16 04:56:12 PM  

Jake Havechek: Doesn't matter, pig cops and crooked DAs will figure out a way to make it legal.


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2017-07-16 05:00:59 PM  

CruiserTwelve: There are several lawful reasons why a cop can search a vehicle without a warrant, but this incident doesn't appear to contain any of them. If the cop actually had a reason for a warrantless search, why didn't he explain that to the vehicle's owner instead of stopping his search and walking away? My guess would be that the guy is known to the cops and the cop was doing an unconstitutional exploratory search expecting to find something incriminating. Would have been interesting to see how he explained the search is he had found something.


The phrase "in plain sight" would have been used.

The vehicle owner's lucky he saw the bastard before the bastard had a chance to plant something.
 
2017-07-16 05:01:43 PM  

Mael99: It's illegal to have guns in New Jersey PERIOD.


I'm assuming that's an extreme exaggeration, since SCOTUS ruled in McDonald v. Chicago, 561 U.S. 742 (2010) that the 2nd Amendment is incorporated to the States and thus a State or local jurisdiction cannot ban, either de jure or de facto all firearms.
 
2017-07-16 05:01:58 PM  

Mael99: Silverstaff: FTA: "we're getting a lot of complaints about guns,"

. . .and that doesn't give you the right to make random warrantless searches of peoples vehicles.

I don't know NJ gun laws, but in KY it's perfectly legal to keep a gun in your vehicle, as long as it's secured in a factory-installed compartment (i.e. glove box or center console).

It's illegal to have guns in New Jersey PERIOD.
Illegal search?  It's New Jersey.  Deal with it.
See:  Chris Chistie, Governor


As anti-gun New Jersey is, they cannot supersede the Constitution, including the 2nd and 4th Amendments.
 
2017-07-16 05:06:25 PM  
One time for the freedom of speeches 
Two time for the right to hold heaters 
Just skip to the fifth with the cops in the house
Close your mouth and pray to your Jesus.
 
2017-07-16 05:08:18 PM  
I told them how I felt about them. It's not the best writing but they will get the message that I'm not happy.

You need to stop robbing the country blind! You need to find a moral compass! You need to stop lying! You need to help the average Americans and the people who need help! Not everybody can be rich but America would be better if you start taxing the rich instead of being a reverse Robin Hood! Someday Trump supporters are going to wake up! Trump and his minions are liars, thieves, misogamists and racists mostly in the GOP. I don't listen to Fox (Fake News). How do the lot of you look in the mirror in the morning is beyond me. You are all a bunch of worthless (mostly) men making millions in your position in Washington. I cry for America! Republicans Christians? You worship MAMMON!
 
2017-07-16 05:12:55 PM  

CruiserTwelve: There are several lawful reasons why a cop can search a vehicle without a warrant, but this incident doesn't appear to contain any of them. If the cop actually had a reason for a warrantless search, why didn't he explain that to the vehicle's owner instead of stopping his search and walking away? My guess would be that the guy is known to the cops and the cop was doing an unconstitutional exploratory search expecting to find something incriminating. Would have been interesting to see how he explained the search is he had found something.


If he was "known to the police", they would be plastering his record all over the media by now.
 
2017-07-16 05:13:08 PM  

doglover: Plainclothes police should not have legal authority.

No uniform, no legal powers.


He has a badge.That's all that matters, it gives him the authority to act even if he's off duty.

This guy should not have a badge. I've said it before, I'll say it again.. There needs to be a registry
of police officers. If they get fired or removed from duty someplace, they shouldn't be able to just
move to the next town and get a job as if nothing ever happened. There is no reason for someone
who is put in a position of authority, and abuses that authority, should be allowed to have it again.
They have ZERO credibility in a court, and that's what should matter.
 
2017-07-16 05:15:26 PM  
None of the other amendments matter as long as we have the second, which will protect us from governments trying to take our rights.
 
2017-07-16 05:15:28 PM  
Was the van acting suspiciously?
 
2017-07-16 05:17:34 PM  
Mr. Shabooboo:

The badge should not be an Aegis to act with impunity.

If you're out of uniform as a soldier during a war, you can be executed for espionage.

If soldiers can manage to keep their colors on with people shooting them on sight, I reckon cops can manage to dress appropriately.

Out of uniform? Not a cop. You can act as any other private citizen, but nothing more.
 
2017-07-16 05:21:32 PM  
Van owner is lucky to still be breathing.
 
2017-07-16 05:22:10 PM  

iheartscotch: CruiserTwelve: There are several lawful reasons why a cop can search a vehicle without a warrant, but this incident doesn't appear to contain any of them. If the cop actually had a reason for a warrantless search, why didn't he explain that to the vehicle's owner instead of stopping his search and walking away? My guess would be that the guy is known to the cops and the cop was doing an unconstitutional exploratory search expecting to find something incriminating. Would have been interesting to see how he explained the search is he had found something.

Even if he found something, it would be completely inadmissible. I could understand if there was a missing child or something like that; but, it seems like the officer conducted a random illegal search for no apparent reason.


they would have had a uniformed cop pull him over for some b.s. like taillight or sliding through a stop sign.  Then the man would resist or a K9 would alert or a lighter is a gun - or any other reason that's convenient to search the vehicle.  I'm going out on a limb and saying it's not the first time they've done it like this - just the first time they got caught on video.
 
2017-07-16 05:22:12 PM  

holdmybones: CruiserTwelve: There are several lawful reasons why a cop can search a vehicle without a warrant, but this incident doesn't appear to contain any of them. If the cop actually had a reason for a warrantless search, why didn't he explain that to the vehicle's owner instead of stopping his search and walking away? My guess would be that the guy is known to the cops and the cop was doing an unconstitutional exploratory search expecting to find something incriminating. Would have been interesting to see how he explained the search is he had found something.

Had he found something interesting would he have been able to lie and make his search acceptable under one of the justifications you referenced (honest question as I don't know the cases where it's allowed)? I mean, if he was ok with doing an illegal search is lying about it to make it ok much of a stretch?

Also, that UC's body language was criminal as hell, right? If someone acted like that when you approached them would you be more or less suspicious?


Yes, he would just lie and he would get away with it, because the courts assume that cops never lie and even when they know the cops are lying they still do not care.

I was arrested. Cop cuffs me, puts me in the car. Refuses to say whether I am arrested or detained or what. Illegally searches my car.  Doesn't read miranda rights. Accuses my mom (in her 50s and looks like an old mom) who I was with, of being a prostitute that I hired. Lies in court when we put him on the stand. Gets caught up in the lie and exposed. Judge sets new precedent so the cop doesn't get in trouble.
 
2017-07-16 05:22:16 PM  

Silverstaff: Mael99: It's illegal to have guns in New Jersey PERIOD.

I'm assuming that's an extreme exaggeration, since SCOTUS ruled in McDonald v. Chicago, 561 U.S. 742 (2010) that the 2nd Amendment is incorporated to the States and thus a State or local jurisdiction cannot ban, either de jure or de facto all firearms.


Firearms are illegal outside of the home in new jersey unless you are driving from your house to a designated shooting range and back.  To the letter of the law, you can't stop to eat or get gas or anything since you would no longer be driving directly to or from the range and home.
 
2017-07-16 05:22:51 PM  

Silverstaff: Mael99: It's illegal to have guns in New Jersey PERIOD.

I'm assuming that's an extreme exaggeration, since SCOTUS ruled in McDonald v. Chicago, 561 U.S. 742 (2010) that the 2nd Amendment is incorporated to the States and thus a State or local jurisdiction cannot ban, either de jure or de facto all firearms.


...and yet...
 
2017-07-16 05:23:03 PM  
The perpetual argument throughout the Middle Ages, other than investiture controversy, was; is the king the law or is the the law the law?

In the age of Trump, who fashions himself a king...
 
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